Re: USB host

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Stirling
Marcin Domanski wrote: Yep it shouldn't be a problem - let's take an usb hub with external power supply - connect it to neo and then connect the device to the hub. I dont know how's the support for it but its an idea :) That relies on the USB hub recognising a non-powered host. Many do not.

Re: Isn't this a little early?

2007-08-13 Thread andy selby
I sent the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The domain freeopenmoko.com which is in your IP range is giving false information. The worst of it is that the testimonials claiming to have received a Neo 1973 phone were up on the website before the phone was even released. The website also does not say

Re: Linux embedded dev board

2007-08-13 Thread Edwyn Stapel
2007/8/13, Edwyn Stapel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nice dev kit.. but the neo is $150,- cheaper though and looks like it has more supported with their openmoko framework. Edwyn ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: User Interface idea

2007-08-13 Thread D. Vicario
2007/8/12, Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One of the things that I've found on most pda-phones/smartphones is that they make the phone capabilities feel like just another application. But when you want to use the device as a phone, it would be nice for the rest of the features to melt

Re: User Interface idea

2007-08-13 Thread Jeff Andros
On 8/12/07, Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm thinking that apps such as the Dialer would be running in the background, and have an active connection to the Phone desktop along with the PDA desktop. snip um, do realize that we are working on a resource constrained system,

Re: User Interface idea

2007-08-13 Thread Giles Jones
On 14 Aug 2007, at 00:02, Jeff Andros wrote: um, do realize that we are working on a resource constrained system, and probably will be for the forseeable future... I don't see this as TOO much of a problem, as long as those apps unload most of themselves from memory when they're not

Re: User Interface idea

2007-08-13 Thread Derek Pressnall
On 8/13/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: um, do realize that we are working on a resource constrained system, and probably will be for the forseeable future... I don't see this as TOO much of a problem, as long as those apps unload most of themselves from memory when they're not

Re: User Interface idea

2007-08-13 Thread Giles Jones
On 14 Aug 2007, at 00:48, Derek Pressnall wrote: What I meant was that apps that would be in use would be split into a piece that runs in the background, and a forground part that talks to the display / input. And the background part would only be running when needed. It's sorta done like

Re: Linux embedded dev board

2007-08-13 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 13 August 2007 22:22:24 Joe Friedrichsen wrote: It has more than a handful of similarities with the Neo (ARM9, touchscreen, USB, JTAG, but no GSM or GPS), and may help scratch some itches for new ideas and toys that have been floating on the list for It's more of a PDA spec, if you

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-13 Thread Jeff Andros
On 8/10/07, t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I see no effective way to combine these 2 different goals.One is prevents access to data but this will enforce bad guys to do full reflashing.Killing your (unusable) data but getting working (usable) phone.Another approach makes guys to

Re: Chinese input for OpenMoko

2007-08-13 Thread Jeff Andros
On 8/8/07, Shu Hung (Koala) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, OpenMoko is developed and produced in Taiwan. And I live in HK. Both places uses Chinese as the common language. I'm just curious if there is any plan for Neo1973 to support Chinese input? If so, in what way? Hand-writing input?

Debug Board JTAG Programming with openocd

2007-08-13 Thread Kyle Bassett
I have been unable to coerce my Neo to charge batteries, so I have a feeling it has to do with the uboot image I flashed. Should I manually charge the batteries some other way? or continue trying to reflash the original uboot revision? (Can you even use the debug board if the battery is dead?)

Re: Debug Board JTAG Programming with openocd

2007-08-13 Thread Kyle Bassett
-Update: I guess the debug board charges the batteries, because I checked the voltage after typing the previous email and it's ~3.29v. I still cannot get the Neo to turn on though... -Kyle On 8/14/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been unable to coerce my Neo to charge