Re: the volume of this group
On Wednesday 17 October 2007, Thufir wrote: What most appeals to me about the moko is that I would be able to mount it effortlessly and sync it up with my system. There isn't a cell phone out there right now which synchronizes with a Linux system in any way shape or form which I'm aware of :( Access to most phones with bluetooth is trivial with kbluetoothd. OpenSync can sync many devices and clients on linux. http://www.opensync.org/wiki/FAQ http://www.opensync.org/wiki/DeviceCompatibilityList Still looking forward to having an open phone though... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the volume of this group
You're new here, so we'll forgive you. ;-) But moko (Openmoko) is free. I assume you're talking about the Neo1973. We don't want to confuse those. -Steven On 10/16/07, Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm very impressed with the volume of this group! I only subscribed to it the other day through gmane, and am overwhelmed with the volume of posts. Unfortunately, the moko isn't at a stage where I can justify shelling out the cash for it, but I have my fingers crossed! Until then I'll be lurking. What most appeals to me about the moko is that I would be able to mount it effortlessly and sync it up with my system. There isn't a cell phone out there right now which synchronizes with a Linux system in any way shape or form which I'm aware of :( -Thufir ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
Hello everyone, There seem to be a problem with openmoko/flash.sh in new Ubuntu 7.10. I think it has something to do with the setenv command. I have a feeling it is not even there. Does anybody know how to fix this? Best Regards, Jens ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
On 10/17/07, Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, There seem to be a problem with openmoko/flash.sh in new Ubuntu 7.10. I think it has something to do with the setenv command. I have a feeling it is not even there. Does anybody know how to fix this? Best Regards, Jens Same here, its rather sad since i will be accessing the neo only at the university. At home, qemu is the only way to get something done. It would be wonderful if the upstream devs could take a look. I see a bug has already been filed http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=937 -- Sudharshan S blog: http://www.sudharsh.wordpress.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
The Ubuntu equivalent to setenv is export. Maybe you can just change them? On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:23 +0200, Jens Fursund wrote: Hello everyone, There seem to be a problem with openmoko/flash.sh in new Ubuntu 7.10. I think it has something to do with the setenv command. I have a feeling it is not even there. Does anybody know how to fix this? Best Regards, Jens ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
Thanks, will try On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 08:11 -0700, Brad Pitcher wrote: The Ubuntu equivalent to setenv is export. Maybe you can just change them? On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:23 +0200, Jens Fursund wrote: Hello everyone, There seem to be a problem with openmoko/flash.sh in new Ubuntu 7.10. I think it has something to do with the setenv command. I have a feeling it is not even there. Does anybody know how to fix this? Best Regards, Jens ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
Brad Pitcher wrote: The Ubuntu equivalent to setenv is export. Maybe you can just change them? Good heavens. Ubuntu wrote their own shell? :-) I think not. setenv is a csh-ism. export is a POSIX/sh/ksh/bash-ism (i.e. all mainstream shells). Friends don't let friends write csh scripts. :-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10
Brad Pitcher wrote: The Ubuntu equivalent to setenv is export. Maybe you can just change them? please don't i will not help you the setenv call is on the uboot shell. that has nothing to do with the shell on the hostsystem. but to make sure you do not run into any problems there, check if /bin/sh points to /bin/bash and NOT /bin/dash (see also http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_QEMU_with_MokoMakefile ) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Has anybody seen this article in LinuxWorld ?
Developers extend abilities of Linux-based mobile phone. http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/101607-developers-extend-abilities-o f-linux-based.html Can somebody PLEASE get hold of this reporter and explain the difference between the Neo OpenMoko to them. For a website like LinuxWorld to allow an article like this leads me to believe that we need a LOT more PR out there. Thanks Gareth This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My head hurts...
Sometimes, these miracles happen. :-) On 10/17/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or should I say, my head is still spinning. I filed a bug report at 10:59 this morning (bug 947). At 11:12 there was a response (Thanks Soeren!) that not only addressed both issues I raised, but provided a fix that worked first time. When was the last time you got that kind of response from Adobe, Microsoft, or Apple? Way to go, team! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anybody seen this article in LinuxWorld ?
On 18/10/2007, Swanepoel, Gareth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Developers extend abilities of Linux-based mobile phone. http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/101607-developers-extend-abilities-of-linux-based.html Can somebody PLEASE get hold of this reporter and explain the difference between the Neo OpenMoko to them. For a website like LinuxWorld to allow an article like this leads me to believe that we need a LOT more PR out there. even people on the list get it wrong every so often. has anyone tried this, or even found the download (assuming it's free)? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anybody seen this article in LinuxWorld ?
has anyone tried this, or even found the download (assuming it's free)? There is a free download, that you can find from the first page of the article. Or just go to the bottom of this page http://www.ok-labs.com/technology/ and click Download. It might be a good way to switch between OpenMoko and QTopia, or (someday) OpenMoko on Linux and OpenMoko on your favorite BSD. But I don't have time to play with it at present. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anybody seen this article in LinuxWorld ?
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:40, Ian Darwin wrote: has anyone tried this, or even found the download (assuming it's free)? There is a free download, that you can find from the first page of the article. Or just go to the bottom of this page http://www.ok-labs.com/technology/ and click Download. It might be a good way to switch between OpenMoko and QTopia, or (someday) OpenMoko on Linux and OpenMoko on your favorite BSD. But I don't have time to play with it at present. Oh yeah, wonderful, yet another f*king build system with bugger all documentation Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anybody seen this article in LinuxWorld ?
On 10/17/2007 01:45 PM, Swanepoel, Gareth wrote: Developers extend abilities of Linux-based mobile phone. http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/101607-developers-extend-abilities-of-linux-based.html There was another story about it a couple of weeks ago at http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8294545513.html , too. Mike ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:10:07AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia wtorek, 16 października 2007, Thomas Wood napisał: The current crashes are more likely to be in one of the panel applets. I suspect gsm applet - when it can not connect to gsmd it crash. Apropos: does the neo have a MMU? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the volume of this group
Thufir schrieb: I'm very impressed with the volume of this group! I only subscribed to it the other day through gmane, and am overwhelmed with the volume of posts. ACK. The idea of an open cell phone appealed to me immediately. I want to say THANKS!! to anyone who helps to push this project onwards. Unfortunately i'm not a coder, but i want to offer my help in terms of translation, documentation and usability testing. Is this a subject for the devel ML? Question 2: Is it possible to pre-order the final version? timbo ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NetBSD/evbarm NEO1973 netboot
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Noud de Brouwer community@lists.openmoko.org wrote: nfs boot using dhcp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Netbsd-evbarm-neo1973-nfs_boot-uname.png showing off uname -a ;) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NetBSD Congrats! What are your plans to integrate this and to provide more drivers? christos ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 drawings
for a start that some of us have made on the wiki. is anyone with a GTA01 up for whipping out their micrometer/3d scanner and knocking something together? even better, is anyone at FIC/openmoko able and willing to provide us with detailed drawings of the case? If this doesn't happen before next wednesday, remind me and I'll measure up one of my GTA01s with my digital micrometer. I happen to be 1000km from it this weekend (my micrometer not my neo :-) Would be great if somebody did a really thorough job of documenting the Neo case. In other words, disassemble a Neo as described here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973 and make nice orthographic images of all the case parts, from all angles -- back, front, edge-on, etc. The easiest way to do this is to simply place the parts on a flatbed scanner. And put a pair of short rulers on there too, at right angles, for calibration (millimeter scale!). The orthographic images produced in this way aren't perfect, but they're a lot better than what you get with an ordinary camera, at least for some purposes. You don't have to worry about camera angles and such, and the resolution is potentially much higher too. By all means, make lots of measurements with the micrometer, everything you can think of that might be useful to somebody who wants to hack hardware or design add-on parts. But with some good orthographic images uploaded into the wiki, people would have an opportunity to make measurements that weren't thought of when the micrometer measurements were made, or that aren't easy to make with a micrometer. Some non-trivial things to measure include draft angles and radii of curvature (there are lots of these, as molded parts rarely have true sharp corners on them -- these corners are usually radiused). Use a high resolution, true color, PNG format. Leave the scanner lid up and turn off the room lights for a nice black background. Yes the image files will be large. I don't mind, I have broadband. :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
