FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)
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Re: Power Management on Neo1973
Michael Shiloh schrieb: Nicolas Linkert wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: snip So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current eater. I was under the impression that the last modem update occured because some SIM cards were not recognized. That is correct. Is there a new update of the modem planned that is going to deal with power management? No. I've never heard of anything even remotely like this. Well, there were discussions, I would have to go back in the mailinglist, that the earlier GSM firmware version (up to the latest shipped firmware) were not able to do low-power standby, which means still being connected to the GSM and being able to receive calls/SMS but be in a lower power state than full operation. This is/was supposed to be the standby mode of the modem. And since this did not work, and current measurements prove this to be quite likely, it was my assumption that a later firmware would also address this problem. If it does not then this would really be pityful. With only the GSM sucking 20-40mA we will never reach any sane standby time. Michael Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts GbRTel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power Management on Neo1973
Hallo Nils, i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html * Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-08 10:23]: From: Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:23:35 +0100 Organization: kernel concepts User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 Michael Shiloh schrieb: Nicolas Linkert wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: snip So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current eater. I was under the impression that the last modem update occured because some SIM cards were not recognized. That is correct. Is there a new update of the modem planned that is going to deal with power management? No. I've never heard of anything even remotely like this. Well, there were discussions, I would have to go back in the mailinglist, that the earlier GSM firmware version (up to the latest shipped firmware) were not able to do low-power standby, which means still being connected to the GSM and being able to receive calls/SMS but be in a lower power state than full operation. This is/was supposed to be the standby mode of the modem. And since this did not work, and current measurements prove this to be quite likely, it was my assumption that a later firmware would also address this problem. If it does not then this would really be pityful. With only the GSM sucking 20-40mA we will never reach any sane standby time. Michael Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts GbRTel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power Management on Neo1973
Tim Niemeyer schrieb: Hallo Nils, Hi! i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html Good catch, thanks! And there was some explanation in that or close thread as well. Puh, so it was not only my imagination ;) So in this light we have to assume that both fixes will be in the new firmware? Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts GbRTel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power Management on Neo1973
Hallo Nils, * Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-08 11:36]: i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html Good catch, thanks! And there was some explanation in that or close thread as well. Puh, so it was not only my imagination ;) So in this light we have to assume that both fixes will be in the new firmware? I don't think so, because Message was from 2007-September! On another Thread was this: --- And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix. --- Can anybody from Openmoko please answear this firmware-pm question? Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case
Hi, here can you find nice photos from a complete black device. http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ = the DSC* files. The photos has been shot by mickeyl :) Greets Patrick Beck Am Sonntag, den 13.01.2008, 15:57 -0800 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Zeth Green wrote: Warning: Totally frivolous post. The picture on the news.com site, has the word FreeRunner written at the bottom and a rather cool all black look (i.e. no transparent edge). Is this photo a fake or is it a real photo of the new case? http://linkpot.net/stenched/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Hi Community, Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to the other formats. We're in the process of getting all the pieces in order. I'll let you know as soon as it is available. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). Do you know if this model has objects providing dimensions for the pcb, screen, battery, other elements? It isn't a problem to wait see, if the release will be occurring soon. I was just curious. Jeremiah Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi Community, Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to the other formats. We're in the process of getting all the pieces in order. I'll let you know as soon as it is available. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On 15/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. fantastic, no i don't recall seeing this confirmed. thanks michael I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to the other formats. yes, dxf is spot on We're in the process of getting all the pieces in order. I'll let you know as soon as it is available. great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case
here can you find nice photos from a complete black device. http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ = the DSC* files. The photos has been shot by mickeyl :) The site is down at the moment but I did find this at people.openomoko.org http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/misc/MOV02905.MPG posted today by Mickey, note the all silver banding around the neo's circumference although it still has two speakers so I'm guessing this is not a freerunner. Will there be two versions, one, all black and one with all silver trim? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power Management on Neo1973
Tim Niemeyer wrote: On another Thread was this: --- And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix. Can anybody from Openmoko please answer this firmware-pm question? Tim Niemeyer I will add this to my todo list. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? Blender seems to import .dxf files though I've never tried any thing other than native files. Get it at www.blender3d.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
yes, dxf is spot on Thanks for the confirmation. great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case
Yes, LTG is down, but i think it will running again in a few hours. The photos there are well worth seeing ;) The video you are found is about the special case from mickey. He have build it out from a black and white case. Greets Patrick Beck Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 19:26 + schrieb andy selby: The site is down at the moment but I did find this at people.openomoko.org http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/misc/MOV02905.MPG posted today by Mickey, note the all silver banding around the neo's circumference although it still has two speakers so I'm guessing this is not a freerunner. Will there be two versions, one, all black and one with all silver trim? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). A quick spot-check indicated that Blender can import and export dxf files. Blender is FOSS and runs on Linux. Do you know if this model has objects providing dimensions for the pcb, screen, battery, other elements? It isn't a problem to wait see, if the release will be occurring soon. I was just curious. I don't know. I'd ask, but I don't want to slow the process down. I agree with you - wait and see what we get, then I can ask for the rest later. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On 15/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. concrete! now there's an idea. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Steampunk is one of the non-traditional ones that caught my eye plus http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases:Alternate_colours/materials which aren't so leftfield ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? This would be excellent information to add to the wiki. I am not a CAD designer, but I work with many designers and machinists. Of course none of them are Linux users. I did a little research and found many commercial products for Linux. I presume we are more interested in FOSS CAD tools. The one that stood out to me was Blender. It's designed for much more, but 3D CAD is a solid part of its job. My girlfriend is a product designer. I gave her a Linux computer with Blender installed in the hopes that she will figure out how to use Blender and then teach me. Her initial impression was that Blender is excellent for this kind of work. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere near as thin as plastic can you? I guess you could make a concrete docking station. Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? I've got a CNC micro-mill (Sherline based) but it's not very reliable... it's kindof worn (I got it used) and the screws tend to stick sometimes in some positions, it's slow (more likely to stick if I get the step rate up too fast), and it's not easy to do any significant metal cutting. I run it from a DOS machine because real-time Linux so far has been more trouble to get going, and requires a faster machine to get the same results. I also have it booting from a CF card for reliability, and it can mount Samba shares, so it's easy enough to generate files on Linux and then mill them on DOS. I was just hoping to mill PC boards, but I mostly have not been able to get acceptable results; it's so hard to find small-enough cutters, and the ones that are small enough break too easily. I got a simple pyramid-shaped engraving bit, and it tears the edges of the copper too much, so that fine traces tend not to have continuity when it's done. So fine-pitch surface-mount stuff is not an option right now (but I did make one good board with a 6-pin SOIC on it). Plus my wife won't let me use it when she's at home because it's so loud. All in all it's much less trouble to just send designs somewhere to be made (like Olimex if you're not in a hurry - they are cheap). And what am I going to spend my spare time on anyway? My software projects take a lot of time and aren't getting done fast enough, and I don't have time to read as many books as I'd like because I'm always hacking on something. Also have a decent-sized non-CNC Harbor Freight milling machine. I don't have enough experience yet to be any good with either one. Didn't get around to getting a lathe yet. Can you generate CAM paths with Blender? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Ben Burdette schrieb: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40 or so. Expensive, but black anodised aluminum would be pretty neat. But keep Mister Faraday in mind... otherwise you won't have any WiFi/GSM/GPS signals... Anyway i would love black anodised aluminum! =) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On 15/01/2008, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40 or so. Expensive, but black anodised aluminum would be pretty neat. they would be very cool, and yes that is expensive, but someone might be interested. would you care to add details to the wiki? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_alternate_cases and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases:Alternate_colours/materials ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40 or so. Expensive, but black anodised aluminum would be pretty neat. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Michael Shiloh writes: Now what would a steampunk phone look like? I really, really like what might be a called a restrained steampunk style. Something like the existing black/silver case, with a wood veneer in place of black and brass-bound for the silver. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)
On Jan 14, 2008 3:32 AM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML-based widgets: http://mobile.yahoo.com/go I think... I don't understand. How are these XML based? Do you need a special app to run them or is XML based the new word for DHTML/AJAX (so, need a full webbrowser)? -Nick ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia
Hi, all I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1. I need your help to clear some problems. 1, Incoming call ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa. 2, Out Call Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone, No connection to the other end I am a newbie in using Qtopia, maybe something missed in setting when building. Looking forward to your kind and prompt help. Regards. George ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? http://www.candyfab.org/ Other phones make their owners angry. Ours is good enough to eat[*]. [*] Do not eat electronics or battery in phone. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia
左 国坤 wrote: Hi, all I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1. I need your help to clear some problems. 1, Incoming call ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa. 2, Out Call Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone, No connection to the other end I am a newbie in using Qtopia, maybe something missed in setting when building. Nope. something is missing from Qtopia :) We are currently working on this, I think I will post a new snapshot image when voip is working. You man manually run alsactl -f /etc/alsa/capturehandset.state restore and try that. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere near as thin as plastic can you? I didn't say it would be trivial :-) I guess you could make a concrete docking station. Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? I've got a CNC micro-mill (Sherline based) but it's not very reliable... it's kindof worn (I got it used) and the screws tend to stick sometimes in some positions, it's slow (more likely to stick if I get the step rate up too fast), and it's not easy to do any significant metal cutting. I run it from a DOS machine because real-time Linux so far has been more trouble to get going, and requires a faster machine to get the same results. I also have it booting from a CF card for reliability, and it can mount Samba shares, so it's easy enough to generate files on Linux and then mill them on DOS. I was just hoping to mill PC boards, but I mostly have not been able to get acceptable results; it's so hard to find small-enough cutters, and the ones that are small enough break too easily. I got a simple pyramid-shaped engraving bit, and it tears the edges of the copper too much, so that fine traces tend not to have continuity when it's done. So fine-pitch surface-mount stuff is not an option right now (but I did make one good board with a 6-pin SOIC on it). Plus my wife won't let me use it when she's at home because it's so loud. All in all it's much less trouble to just send designs somewhere to be made (like Olimex if you're not in a hurry - they are cheap). And what am I going to spend my spare time on anyway? My software projects take a lot of time and aren't getting done fast enough, and I don't have time to read as many books as I'd like because I'm always hacking on something. Also have a decent-sized non-CNC Harbor Freight milling machine. I don't have enough experience yet to be any good with either one. Didn't get around to getting a lathe yet. Nice setup. The Sherline is highly rated, in its category. I expect if you ever want to sell it you'll get close to your money back. Can you generate CAM paths with Blender? That I don't know. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Daniel Barkalow wrote: Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? http://www.candyfab.org/ Other phones make their owners angry. Ours is good enough to eat[*]. I thought of that. His resolution isn't quite good enough for a phone. Maybe I'll ask him to make us one just for fun. He'd be into it, I'm sure. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
I also suggest Alibre Express, although it is for Windows and it's not FOSS, but I was involved in much of the writing of it, so I enjoy seeing it being used. Blender would work great for this application, although it's not a parametric solid modeler. I'll have to give it a spin. --Mark Arvidson P.S. check out my first openmoko app at http://sagacis.doesntexist.com/openmoko-dashboard_0.9_armv4t.ipk On Jan 14, 2008 1:55 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin (although not all of them export dxf files). A quick spot-check indicated that Blender can import and export dxf files. Blender is FOSS and runs on Linux. Do you know if this model has objects providing dimensions for the pcb, screen, battery, other elements? It isn't a problem to wait see, if the release will be occurring soon. I was just curious. I don't know. I'd ask, but I don't want to slow the process down. I agree with you - wait and see what we get, then I can ask for the rest later. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia
Hey Lorn, if you have time could you comment on what else is new or fixed since your last image was posted? Thanks a bunch, Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorn Potter Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia 左 国坤 wrote: Hi, all I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1. I need your help to clear some problems. 1, Incoming call ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa. 2, Out Call Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone, No connection to the other end I am a newbie in using Qtopia, maybe something missed in setting when building. Nope. something is missing from Qtopia :) We are currently working on this, I think I will post a new snapshot image when voip is working. You man manually run alsactl -f /etc/alsa/capturehandset.state restore and try that. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)
Nick Guenther wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 3:32 AM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML-based widgets: http://mobile.yahoo.com/go I think... I don't understand. How are these XML based? Do you need a special app to run them or is XML based the new word for DHTML/AJAX (so, need a full webbrowser)? The XML widgets are server side and converted by Yahoo. It seems there is no info atm on the software running on the mobile, the format of data between the mobile and the server. The faq indicates that Ajax or Java are not required for a wider base of possible mobiles. Best regards, Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
Shawn Rutledge wrote: What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? I have to agree with the people that say Blender is a high quality program. For a simple 3D editor I would suggest something like Art of Illusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Illusion). In my opinion that would would be a simpler application to use before moving to something more powerful like Blender. Can you generate CAM paths with Blender? What type of CAM files/input do you have in mind? I know both Blender AOI support .stl files and a few others. Plugins are available for both. Are you asking about CNC G-code or something else? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what's not functional?
Hi Tom, If your usage is for North America, be aware that the Neo as it is offered now does not include support for the 850MHz band, so you will only be able to use the 1900MHz in these parts. The battery life is 3-4 hours, and the phone is best charged turned on and plugged into a Linux computer's USB port. My particular device only recognizes the sim card every other boot and often forgets to tell me if somebody is calling (they drop straight to voicemail). Some of this may be improved with the latest modem flash. The basic hardware platform seems solid enough (other than power management issues). The problems I am seeing seem to be software related, so if the openmoko software is not required in your application, you might have some luck. I have enjoyed writing some small bits of software for openmoko, but still cannot use it as a primary phone. Some claim that Qtopia works well on the device. I haven't tried it recently enough to comment. --Mark Arvidson ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Southern California Linux Expo, Feb 8-10 2008
Hey all, Just saw that OpenMoko is going to be at the SCALE show this year -- can't wait to drop by and meet some of you guys. Got any good giveaways planned? ;o) Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what's not functional?
After the modem firmware upgrade from Michael, I was able to connect and make a phone call with an ATT SIM card that didn't work before. And a TMobile SIM card that didn't work at all before would now at least register on the network and show signal strength, but would not make/receive a phone call. Your mileage will vary, though, depending on the type of SIM card you have and where you're located. Ian Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: I thought I remembered someone said t-mobile sim cards weren't connecting correctly to the network, but att cards were working fine. GPS is working fine although there was talk about changing the chip drivers in the next release - although I'm not sure about the state of that or the reasons behind it. Mark Arvidson wrote: Hi Tom, If your usage is for North America, be aware that the Neo as it is offered now does not include support for the 850MHz band, so you will only be able to use the 1900MHz in these parts. The battery life is 3-4 hours, and the phone is best charged turned on and plugged into a Linux computer's USB port. My particular device only recognizes the sim card every other boot and often forgets to tell me if somebody is calling (they drop straight to voicemail). Some of this may be improved with the latest modem flash. The basic hardware platform seems solid enough (other than power management issues). The problems I am seeing seem to be software related, so if the openmoko software is not required in your application, you might have some luck. I have enjoyed writing some small bits of software for openmoko, but still cannot use it as a primary phone. Some claim that Qtopia works well on the device. I haven't tried it recently enough to comment. --Mark Arvidson ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Southern California Linux Expo, Feb 8-10 2008
Where did you see that? It wasn't in Current Events-Upcoming events in the Wiki. Too bad I just finished several months in California, won't be going back any time soon (I think) and will miss out on the show in Feb. Anyone know of any other shows coming up in the US that OpenMoko will be at? Jeremiah ian douglas wrote: Hey all, Just saw that OpenMoko is going to be at the SCALE show this year -- can't wait to drop by and meet some of you guys. Got any good giveaways planned? ;o) Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
