Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Denis
The wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Hardware says 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host, but the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Battery says it's a 1700mAh one. So where is the typo? 2008/2/6, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I dont know why I was supprised

2008-02-06 Thread Christopher Earl
www.openmoko.com Today I noticed a change that OM has released their CAD files for the case of the GTA01, This opens a major door to Case modding. I guess im used to closed hardware and tight-liped companies, but i was supprised. I will never again own a closed phone.

Re: I dont know why I was supprised

2008-02-06 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:59:01 -0500, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.openmoko.com Today I noticed a change that OM has released their CAD files for the case of the GTA01, This opens a major door to Case modding. I guess im used to closed hardware and tight-liped companies, but

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
Hi, I have absolutely no idea on how to develop IM methods on OpenMoko, but one day I tried to implement a hangul IME for Windows CE. It's based on the one from windows XP IME2002, ie type tpqktmxldkd to get 세바스티앙. The UI does not work yet, but the internal state machine is OK. It's written in C.

Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread dda
I just received my Neo1973, and since I require Korean input, I'd like to do it myself... I'd like to do something similar to the soft qwerty keyboard -- except that I'd use Korean letters instead of Latin ones. I've poked around the wiki, but I haven't found any good pointers on creating and

Re: I dont know why I was supprised

2008-02-06 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
It's been listed on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_case_schematics#Official_case_schematics for a couple weeks. They could use any help they can get converting to additional file formats (see the note on wiki link). Christopher Earl wrote: www.openmoko.com Today I noticed a change

GTA01 Case specs

2008-02-06 Thread Christopher Earl
I agree that the GTA02 case specs would/will be nice, without wifi the GTA01 is less usefull but some of the implications are usefull; building a BT gamepad/KB into the case turning the device into a ROM player is a good suggestion, as stated on the wiki. I will be looking into the cost of

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I've done a little work on a soft querty keyboard written with GTK. It is reconfigurable, by use of an xml config file, and I was playing with support for UTF-8. I haven't had time in the last couple weeks to work on it because of my work school schedule. A slightly out of date version is

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread dda
I'll have a look, thanks for that. Including Korean into an xml file won't be easy as the Korean script is a little more complex to implement than the Latin one. Let's take Sébastien's example: tpqktmxldkd to get 세바스티앙. When you type tp ypu get 세 but when you add q [tpq] you get 셉, not 세ㅂ. Only

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
First time I will publish a bit of my personal work... wow! :) Find here my notes about implementing the algorithm to turn jamos to han syllabes using IME 2002, reverse engineered from a number of keystokes ;) consider it's under CC-BY-SA, and not totally public domain as i've spent a bit of

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Burdette
So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850 mhz version? Christopher Earl wrote: the specs have changed (very slightly) * Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung S3C2442 B54 SoC @ 400Mhz * SMedia Glamo3362 Graphics Accelerator * 2x ST 3D Accelerometers * 256MB Flash *

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
some more notes: - this is exactly the behaviour of IME2002 engine, at least what can be *observed* on a korean windows xp computer - as you can see, there is a state that should be displayed somewhere, and a output that is not generated regularly. - for the curious, I tested the algorithm on my

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-06 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
(sorry for the multiple messages) I am also highly interested by a mobile phone-like korean typepad, but I've never seen one, and I don't know how it works. My idea is to have some common code, and a set of frontends that could be ported either to OpenMoko, Windows Mobile, and possibly others.

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Christopher Earl
I said very slightly Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/08 11:57 AM So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850 mhz version? Christopher Earl wrote: the specs have changed (very slightly) * Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung S3C2442 B54 SoC @ 400Mhz * SMedia

GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
(Please help by changing the subject when the topic changes) I'll look into this. Michael Denis wrote: The wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Hardware says 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host, but the page

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Burdette
Um, just wondering what the differences were since the wiki seems to list the same information as here. I checked the wiki history, it looks like mainly more specific information about the components. I didn't see anything there about the 850 mhz change though. One recent change is from a

Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Kevin, I have looked into your question, and the official answer is that we are not going to discuss the appearance of the Neo FreeRunner until the product releases. Sincerely, Michael On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi Kevin, That's a good question. I don't know,

Re: I dont know why I was supprised

2008-02-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 07/02/2008, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new part of this, is the communication around. According to Michael, gta02 case is not yet published, therefore I guess there is some differences, but the question is : what is the usefulness with this publication if there is

RE: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

2008-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H... That would explain the larger screen spec I saw. I smell Golden Formfactor goodness in the oven. Alan Original Message: - From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:26:29 -0800 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner

More confusion (was: Re: Official distinction between Brand (Neo), Model (1973, FreeRunner), and version (GTA01, GTA02) (was: Re: Wiki - confusion))

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:22:29 -0800 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Please help by adjusting subject as topic changes) Marcel, That is correct. Michael Marcel wrote: So GTA02 would be: Brand: Neo Model: FreeRunner Version: GTA02 To further add to this confusion let

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Shawn Rutledge
1700 would be hard to believe. It's too small. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: More confusion (was: Re: Official distinction between Brand (Neo), Model (1973, FreeRunner), and version (GTA01, GTA02)

2008-02-06 Thread Ian Darwin
Regards, Daniel *The code never lies* Willmann It does, when marketing names get changed after devs have started coding. This does happen sometimes :-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: I dont know why I was surprised

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Dear Christopher and the rest of the community. Thanks for your appreciation. Those of you who have been on this list for a long time will remember that this came up a number of times. It was only recently that we were finally able to come to some kind of a conclusion and release the CAD

OpenMoko at Southern California Linux Expo: Come visit, or better, volunteer to help us at our booth for free admittance

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi, Sorry for the late notice: OpenMoko will have a booth at the Southern California Linux Expo, taking place this weekend in LA: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ Please come and introduce yourselves; I always like to meet our community and put faces to the email. I would especially

Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ Feedback is always appreciated. Michael ___

Re: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Alan, The screen is the same size. Can you provide the link to the larger screen spec, so that we can correct this error? Thanks for helping to keep our wiki correct! Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H... That would explain the larger screen spec I saw. I smell Golden Formfactor

Openmoko not on CeBIT 2008

2008-02-06 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hello For my regret i had noticed, that OpenMoko / FIC are not on the CeBIT 2008. Why not? Greetings Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-02-06 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hello, as i understood correctly in GTA02 are new PCF and CPU. So it's possible that the problems in GTA01 aren't in GTA02. But the question from frederik is still unansweared. Michael any news? * Fredrik Markström [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-01-08 17:28]: Michael, any progress on this issue ?

Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications

2008-02-06 Thread Rod Whitby
Shawn Rutledge wrote: And BTW this method would not work for finding TangoGPS, because the ipkg is on its own separate site. (Why? it must mean it's too hard to get a new ipkg into the regular repository, right?) Getting it into the openmoko feeds requires 1) Getting it into OpenEmbedded 2)

Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

2008-02-06 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:41:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ Feedback is

Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

2008-02-06 Thread Ian Darwin
Michael Shiloh wrote: I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ You've been wikified (openmoko.org's press page, that is). Good

Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications

2008-02-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 16:48 -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: And BTW this method would not work for finding TangoGPS, because the ipkg is on its own separate site. (Why? it must mean it's too hard to get a new ipkg into the regular repository, right?) I haven't yet asked anybody to get

Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

2008-02-06 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Hello, Michael I read the interview and I really liked it. Also I appreciate putting a picture of yourself in that interview, since I will find it hard to reach to SCALE (I live in Europe). To feedback: most annoying is the lack of any formating of the text of the interview, as in bolding