Re: iphone-haptic

2008-03-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 03/03/2008, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have doubts about the usefulness of vibrator feedback. It can't help you find a button or tell you whether you pressed the right one. All it does is tell you that you pressed a button at all. That might be a well, that mimics the

Re: iphone-haptic

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: I played with the motion sensors just eyeballing the raw data in hex and I think they're going to be very responsive and cool. Motion sensors? motion sensors are accelerometers...isn't it? how can

Re: Virtual QWERTY Keyboards to be used with Fingers...

2008-03-03 Thread Karsten Ensinger
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Karsten Ensinger ha scritto: I am afraid, I have to admit that I have NOT tried the Trolltech stuff at all. Maybe because I thought I would deceive the openmoko movement by trying other stuff on the Neo. ;-) I will give it a try until next weekend and will change

25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread Breakable
Hello there, I found this link in Google news. Its a list of applications users might want for iPhone. http://www.macworld.com/article/132322/2008/03/iphoneapps.html I think by replacing iPhone with OpenMoko we would not make a big mistake. Regards, Ignas

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 03 March 2008 13:44:53 Breakable wrote: Hello there, I found this link in Google news. Its a list of applications users might want for iPhone. http://www.macworld.com/article/132322/2008/03/iphoneapps.html I think by replacing iPhone with OpenMoko we would not make a big mistake.

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I agree with kenneth , visit http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Core_Applications and http://projects.openmoko.org to do the matching beetween this list and the developed/working progress/planned application for openmoko but there is one on this list that is not in any of the pages above.

Re: iphone-haptic

2008-03-03 Thread Ortwin Regel
On 3/3/08, Gilbert Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know how this compares to the feedback on the Wii when using the keyboard? It sounds fairly similar (save for the Wii's lack of a touchscreen) - --Bert It should be similar but

libmokoui2

2008-03-03 Thread ian chu
HELLO~~ when I install th e toolchain , http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain I met the problem that No package 'libmokoui2' found But I could find it in the PC. Even when I wanted to execute the application in qemu directly , like : [EMAIL

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread Tilman Baumann
David Samblas Martinez wrote: 22. Digital level Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to develop such a freaking geek widget? I could be a funny exercice to play with the accelerometers. No camera, no point. ;) Tilman ___ OpenMoko

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Mo 3. März 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann: David Samblas Martinez wrote: 22. Digital level Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to develop such a freaking geek widget? I could be a funny exercice to play with the accelerometers. Sure, at least backside. No

chroot desn't work

2008-03-03 Thread Federico
Hi all, I'm following this guide: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_OpenMoko_working_on_host_with_Xephyr I copy rootfs on mokobox but when i chroot into it i have this issue: sudo chroot mokobox /bin/sh chroot: cannot run command `/bin/sh': Exec format error Why? In mokobox directory sh is

Re: chroot desn't work

2008-03-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 03 March 2008, Federico wrote: Hi all, I'm following this guide: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_OpenMoko_working_on_host_with_Xephyr I copy rootfs on mokobox but when i chroot into it i have this issue: sudo chroot mokobox /bin/sh chroot: cannot run command `/bin/sh': Exec

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:17:42 +0100 (CET) David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 22. Digital level Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to develop such a freaking geek widget? I could be a funny exercice to play with the accelerometers. [...] The Neo 1973 does

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread Andrea Debortoli
FreeRunner has accelerometers... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Accelerometers GTA01 does not :-( 2008/3/3, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:17:42 +0100 (CET) David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 22. Digital level Is

RE: Virtual QWERTY Keyboards to be used with Fingers...

2008-03-03 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
To change between character types on the keyboard flick on the keyboard up or down. To backspace drag across the keyboard back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karsten Ensinger Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:31 AM To: List for OpenMoko

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I was thinking on freerunner not 1973 sorry gora Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: FreeRunner has accelerometers... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Accelerometers GTA01 does not :-( 2008/3/3, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:17:42

Re: chroot desn't work

2008-03-03 Thread Federico
mmh you are right: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/sh bin/sh: symbolic link to `busybox' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/busybox bin/busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped but i compile the whole openmoko

Re: chroot desn't work

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Mo 3. März 2008 schrieb Federico: mmh you are right: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/sh bin/sh: symbolic link to `busybox' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/busybox bin/busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs),

Re: iphone-haptic

2008-03-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andrea Debortoli ha scritto: It's an hard thing to tell if it could be useful or not...it's a totally new feature (I've never seen something similar), and I think we can evaluate it with practical test only. I've an old iFeel Logitech mouse with haptic support (vibrate on actions). Under

Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Ben Wilson
Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. You may not have heard it but the phone gets quite angry. As evident by a quiet scream the phone emits as the components in its power system begin to vibrate closer to magic smoke land. Talking

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Tim Knapp
Hi Ben, Yeah I've done this *once* and it freaked me out. I'm still a bit concerned I've caused some permanent damage on my Neo as I've had problems booting images on the nand ever since but sdcard images work fine - jury is still out on that one. Thanks, Tim On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 13:45 +1300,

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Ben Wilson: Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. Hard to tell what the state machine in 50606 will do... :-( sure no good idea to try on a precious piece of hardware j

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. You may not have heard it but the phone gets quite angry. As evident by a quiet scream the phone emits as the components in its

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb joerg: Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Ben Wilson: Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. Hard to tell what the state machine in 50606 will do... Maybe substantially increase C1706 from 10u to say 470u

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Ben Wilson
Hi Tim While it is possible I think it's quite unlikely. When switchmode power supplies die they normally destroy themselves. I would expect, if damage occurred due to usb powered battery removal, the phone would be dead rather than develop booting problems. Ben. Tim Knapp wrote: Hi Ben,

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Tim Knapp
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 16:55 +1300, Ben Wilson wrote: Hi Tim While it is possible I think it's quite unlikely. When switchmode power supplies die they normally destroy themselves. I would expect, if damage occurred due to usb powered battery removal, the phone would be dead rather than

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: being an electronics engineer myself i recommend this too. The sound is not something the phone should be emitting in normal operation. These bad noises often come from inductors under physical stress