San Diego Freerunner buying group

c.f.: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#San_Diego The area is San Diego county or anywhere that is conveniently nearby for any group members. I still need 2 more people to make 10 - or possibly 3, I'm still to hear from Mr Hughes. If you add yourself to the list, I'll make sure I send y

RE: Battery life & case design

Well conceptually there are these options. 1. Humped backed whale. A battery that fits our slot mechanically but is thicker. Custom battery and custom back panel. 2. Tethers. Tether power into USB from external source. Tether power into the battery slot via crazy rube goldberg device. So,

Re: FYI: AT&T to sell iPhone without contract

y 01, 2008 12:20 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: FYI: AT&T to sell iPhone without contract > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:48:56 +0200, McCreery, Lee CTR DISA > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know this has been beaten to death but found th

Re: Software Status - Shall I buy or shall I wait?

On Tuesday 01 July 2008, Ingmar RIeger wrote: > Hello, > > I'm watching the OpenMoko Project for more than a year. And now with a > available Phone with W-Lan I'm thinking, if I shall buy it now. I often > read the list the last weeks but not everything is clear to me now. I'll > write a list of Qu

Freerunner buying group (Austin, TX)

The Austin Texas Freerunner buyer's group is nearing enough orders for a second 10-pack. If anyone would like to join our group, please feel free to contact me directly. I'm coordinating the purchase. Hopefully the store will open on Monday July 7th, baring any difficulties in customs. _

Re: Battery life & case design

FR only accepts 100 or 500 mA current I think. So yes, it will be "powered" by it in the sense that the FR battery will have a longer life; but it should not be enought i think because the FR seems to need more than 100 mA and I don't think it will accept something like 250mA. It's 500 or 100. BTW

Re: GTK on FSO (was: Community Initiative GTK)

To support that, the next step forward would be someone taking the wheel and creating a project @ projects.openmoko.org, moving/copying all relevant sources from Om SVN and OHand SVN into this project, then handing out accounts for all interested people. Then you can move quickly. -- :M: ___

Re: Which image

Hi Folks, I have tried a lot of images, and been frequently disappointed by finding many Applications running on top of basic functionality with obvious and longstanding bugs. The latest image, the one called fso, is really exciting as it is simple to start with, beautiful to look at and seems to

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

kenneth > and as not many headsets come with a display, im guessing a lot of handsets > just dont bother implementing support for that part of the spec? the handset should implement it in order to pass qualification, but it seems there's an out for handset makers by claiming the network won't sup

RE: Battery life & case design

El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 13:22 -0700, steve escribió: > A deeper back cover is an option. The cad files are open. I also thought of > an external battery pack What about this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7d34/ ? The specs says: Output power: 6.58 Volts - 320 mA (max) in direct su

RE: Which image

The base software is just that. Base software. It will function as an everyday phone with dialer, SMS, and contacts. So, you can take that base and build on it, by yourself or with others. Or, come August timeframe you can get the Beta release of ASU. FSO is a framework or middleware if you like.

RE: Inter-Freerunner Connectivity

HA, theremin and acelerometers. Love it. Maybe when I get time I'll take a freerunner up to my friends at Emu and see what ideas they come up with. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilman Baumann Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:53 AM To:

GTK on FSO (was: Community Initiative GTK)

As a long-time Linux user, I have an emotional attachment to GTK+ that ... um ... transcends reason. And primarily for that reason, I would like to see the "old" GTK+ interfaces (often called "GTK software stack" or "2007.2 stack") maintained. I will even be helping where and how I can (Though I ca

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:11 +0200, kenneth marken wrote: > i think its as sonyerricson only feature or something. > > its the same thing they use on their watches: > http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbw-150classicedition?cc=gb&lc=en > > where if its paired up with a

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:07 +0200, kenneth marken wrote: > try this then: > http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds205?cc=gb&lc=en Does anyone have one of these, or has anyone used one? If this has a mic (for the headset/handsfree profile) and can stream decent sound

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

How much would a Octave port take??? :) 2008/7/1 Ken Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rodolphe Ortalo: >> >> Given the freerunner hw, you can certainly do much better than that! >> I would expect something like "mathematica in your pocket"... ;-) > > The neo1973 has ~8 times the floating point perform

RE: Battery life & case design

A deeper back cover is an option. The cad files are open. I also thought of an external battery pack ( maddogg sent me some stuff on it). Lots of ideas, too little time Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday

More HW from OpenMoko

Rodolphe Ortalo: > > Given the freerunner hw, you can certainly do much better than that! > I would expect something like "mathematica in your pocket"... ;-) The neo1973 has ~8 times the floating point performance of a VAX 11/780 (double precision). The initial version of Mathematica was develop

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tuesday 01 July 2008 22:09:27 Brad Midgley wrote: > kenneth > > > where if its paired up with a recent sonyericsson phone, it can display > > the number (or name if stored in the phones contacts) of whoever is > > calling. > > > > i dont recall this being part of the official bluetooth spec at a

Re: Software Status - Shall I buy or shall I wait?

Ingmar RIeger wrote: > Hello, > > I'm watching the OpenMoko Project for more than a year. And now with a > available Phone with W-Lan I'm thinking, if I shall buy it now. I often > read the list the last weeks but not everything is clear to me now. I'll > write a list of Questions what isn't clear

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

kenneth > where if its paired up with a recent sonyericsson phone, it can display the > number (or name if stored in the phones contacts) of whoever is calling. > > i dont recall this being part of the official bluetooth spec at any point... this is in the handsfree spec. they call it "calling li

Michael Shiloh on IT Conversations

IT conversations has put up an audio recording of a talk given about OpenMoko back in March. http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3632.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/lis

RE: More HW from OpenMoko

Mathematica would be cool -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodolphe Ortalo Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:16 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: More HW from OpenMoko Given the freerunner hw, you can certainly do much better

Software Status - Shall I buy or shall I wait?

Hello, I'm watching the OpenMoko Project for more than a year. And now with a available Phone with W-Lan I'm thinking, if I shall buy it now. I often read the list the last weeks but not everything is clear to me now. I'll write a list of Questions what isn't clear for me now and I'm hopping, you

RE: FYI: AT&T to sell iPhone without contract

en beaten to death but found this interesting. > > http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/BIZ/807 01011 $599 for iPhone without a two-year contract, but still locked to the network. Imagine what the "real" price would be (for a fully unlocked device)

Re: FYI: AT&T to sell iPhone without contract

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:48:56 +0200, McCreery, Lee CTR DISA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know this has been beaten to death but found this interesting. > > http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/BIZ/80701011 $599 for iPhone without a two-year cont

RE: More HW from OpenMoko

Given the freerunner hw, you can certainly do much better than that! I would expect something like "mathematica in your pocket"... ;-) (In fact, you sort of have already the rpn calculator via "dc".) Hey, that's what I wanted as a second project after doing the current "simple" calculator. But I w

Re: opkg not going anywhere

On Tuesday 01 July 2008, arne anka wrote: > i think i read somewhere, the wiki probably, that om has no resolv.conf > (god knows, why). thus check if it is true and if yes, create one (simply > by copying the one from your pc). w/o name resolution will not work. I'm not certain if this is true of

Re: Which image

http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/ > 2008/7/1 Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? >> I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. ___ Openmoko com

FYI: AT&T to sell iPhone without contract

I know this has been beaten to death but found this interesting. http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/BIZ/807 01011 Lee ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Which image

2008/7/1 Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? > I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=toPe0S8QpJY ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Which image

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? > I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. > > I haven't been able to find any, but keep an eye on http://planet.openmoko.org/ . Tha

Re: opkg not going anywhere

i think i read somewhere, the wiki probably, that om has no resolv.conf (god knows, why). thus check if it is true and if yes, create one (simply by copying the one from your pc). w/o name resolution will not work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Which image

Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:40 -0400, Charles Pax wrote: > Here is a good comparison of the images > http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-t

Re: Which image

> This is my responsibility and I'm well aware that it's needed, and has > been needed, for a very long time. Unfortunately time has not > permitted > me to attend to this yet. Well to help you out, I'll just keep talking about it for a while, but only every now and then, and at least only un

Re: opkg not going anywhere

Hi, I had the same problem, It seems that neo can resolve domain names then change in the configurations files http://78.47.190.211/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz. You can know if you have the same problem when you try to do ping at buildhost.openmoko.org and don't response, and when you do ping 78.4

Re: Which image

Jay Vaughan wrote: >> What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? >> Any advice? > > > > In my opinion, try them all and find one you like. > > There really needs to be a *much* better degree of pimp'atude coming > from OpenMoko on the images to run This is my res

Re: Which image

Here is a good comparison of the images http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/ -Charles On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? > > Any advice? > > > > In my

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:11 AM, kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2008 07:09:06 Vinc Duran wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > On Monday 30 June 2008 14:10:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Hey guys, > > >>

Ping Christoph [Was: Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop]

On Monday 30 June 2008 18:31, Detructor wrote: > yep, I've a confirmation for the 5th ;) > the early geek catches the Freerunner :D Christoph, Could you update the list on the status of orders for which no confirmation was recieved yet. A lot of people are unsure if they made it into the first

Re: opkg not going anywhere

Hi Eildert Doing what you did, I get a similar result except I can ping out. One thing necessary is a nameserver, but also iptables probably. file /etc/resolv.conf in the Neo or Freerunner whould read nameserver 192.168.0.200 and in the PC I run dnsmasq as the nameserver. My 2nd machine this was no

Re: Battery life & case design

> a phone straight away (which is fine with some tweaks). However, care to elaborate? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Battery life & case design

Mikko Rauhala wrote: > ti, 2008-07-01 kello 14:35 +0200, Arne Zachlod kirjoitti: >> Im not sure, but I think with an even thicker phone there will be more >> no-geeks who dont care about the freeness who wont buy the phone only >> because its thick and heavy (and such a phone would be heavy). > >

Re: Let us impact the material world

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:56:58 -0400 Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Think: The collapse of so many hi tech companies on our stock exchanges > has humbled many. Creators within the digital world -- no matter how > novel and exciting -- will have no value unless they impact the ma

Re: Battery life & case design

ti, 2008-07-01 kello 14:35 +0200, Arne Zachlod kirjoitti: > Im not sure, but I think with an even thicker phone there will be more > no-geeks who dont care about the freeness who wont buy the phone only > because its thick and heavy (and such a phone would be heavy). Actually reading the text yo

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

>> the earplugs are hardwired, no 3.5 jack, i presume? >> > > try this then: > http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds205?cc=gb&lc=en looks interesting, thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.or

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tuesday 01 July 2008 07:09:06 Vinc Duran wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > On Monday 30 June 2008 14:10:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hey guys, > >> > >> I've a questition and I hope that someone could help me: > >> I'm searching for a bl

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

not to be harsh, but could you please check your clock settings? you're about 24h behind, it's a bit confusing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

On Tuesday 01 July 2008 10:00:23 arne anka wrote: > > I use the SE HBH-DS980 > > (http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds980? > >cc=gb&lc=en) > > the earplugs are hardwired, no 3.5 jack, i presume? > try this then: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/o

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Seems like this is true. There must have been placed plenty of orders, I was (imho) really quick but still got no confirmation for any date... :( -Marcel Am Dienstag 01 Juli 2008 14:10:42 schrieb Christ van Willegen: > Does that mean that if I didn't get an e-mail form Pulster stating > that it

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > And does this mean, even if i had a confirmation in mid of april that i will > bi informed as one of the first, > there is no Freerunner from Pulster for me before 25th of july :-(((. > Marketing driven promises? > > > > > > > > > _

Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

And does this mean, even if i had a confirmation in mid of april that i will bi informed as one of the first, there is no Freerunner from Pulster for me before 25th of july :-(((. Marketing driven promises? ___ Openmoko community mailing list co

Re: Battery life & case design

> I wonder, is it just me or are there enough people out there who are > interested in having more power? Enough people to make it worth while > some > company (maybe openmoko) to tool up to produce a new back cover for the > gta02 well, there are probably a few ideas now floating around rega

Re: Battery life & case design

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Hi, > > I'm totally thrilled with all the goodies crammed into the gta02, and I'm even > more thrilled with the ideas people are having to use these goodies. > > Whats less thrilling is the battery life. Switch on all those goodies and you > have a phone that will be d

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Who told you? We still have some devices for you (because not all pre-orders have been paid so far): http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner But I can't tell how long that lasts. Please note that we have a priority queue. If you place an order you are queued up (

Battery life & case design

Hi, I'm totally thrilled with all the goodies crammed into the gta02, and I'm even more thrilled with the ideas people are having to use these goodies. Whats less thrilling is the battery life. Switch on all those goodies and you have a phone that will be dead in about 5 hours. Its king of like

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Does that mean that if I didn't get an e-mail form Pulster stating that it will be shipped on the 5th, I get it the 25th (if not later)? Christ van Willegen On 6/30/08, Bumbl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment > are selled out. > >

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment are selled out. Jay Vaughan schrieb: > Hi all, > > I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu, > and discovered there aren't any left? So where do I buy one from in > Europe? > > Alternatively, I

Re: minimo

> does anybody know minimo? forget this. google kindly proposed to have a look at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

minimo

hi, does anybody know minimo? and did anybody check how hard porting to om will be? > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/ i am not a big fan of firefox (though it has its advantages when developing webapps), but for the moment minimo seems to me the closest to a working web browser. __

Re: opkg not going anywhere

> I must be missing something, any ideas what? if usb is the means the om is connected to the inet, the host pc needs to be configured to route all request from the om to the inet and back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

There are other distributors. Please refer to: http://www.openmoko.com/distributors-europe.html Nikolaus Schaller (in charge of http://www.handheld-linux.com ) Am 01.07.2008 um 12:08 schrieb Jay Vaughan: > Hi all, > > I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu, > and

Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Hi, take a look here: http://openmoko.com/distributors-europe.html http://www.trisoft.de Johannes 2008/7/1 Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu, > and discovered there aren't any left? So where do I buy one from

Browsers Report of Wiki (June)

Dear All: Attached file is the Browsers report of wiki. Period is :June. Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_200806_(BrowsersReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.o

Openmoko Wiki Page Views , June

Dear All: Attached file is top 100 page views of Openmoko wiki. Period :June. Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_200806_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://l

Re: opkg not going anywhere

Hi, --- On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Eildert Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | the Neo cannot access the internet \-- Followed this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Automatic_method SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

Hi all, I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu, and discovered there aren't any left? So where do I buy one from in Europe? Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up

Re: Which image

> What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? > Any advice? In my opinion, try them all and find one you like. There really needs to be a *much* better degree of pimp'atude coming from OpenMoko on the images to run .. like, an official page, available in a non-obscu

opkg not going anywhere

Hi Folks now I am trying to install some stuff on the brandnew Freerunner. Through usb0 and ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am logged into the Neo and want to install tangoGPS. However, it seems that the Neo cannot access the internet altough the laptop does have full access. A opkg update gives: An e

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

> Magic address book stuff? Does that mean it announces the calling party? > I > love my JawBone but I have to look at my phone > to > see who's calling. once announcing on screen works (which according to some videos already works) it should be easy to detect if a h

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

> I use the SE HBH-DS980 > (http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds980?cc=gb&lc=en) the earplugs are hardwired, no 3.5 jack, i presume? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.o