I'll post something to the wiki if there's sufficient interest.
Please do so. If not a complete page, at least a note on the GPRS page.
(I guess they/we want to have FSO, ASU, OM2007.2 separate pages on the
wiki.)
/ Fredrik Wendt
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On Saturday 02 August 2008 02:33:22 Ken Restivo wrote:
I've asked several times where ASU stores its SMS messages, and never got
any straight answer.
Where does it store them? In .evolution or in a different place?
Different place, use the QMailStore API of Qtopia to access it or the Ad-Hoc
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| Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix.
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| I got the cap soldered on, slamed in an sd card and fired it up.
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| No card. Nothing mounted at /media/card and doing a manual
have you tried a different SD before sending it??
2008/8/3 Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix.
I got the cap soldered on, slamed in an sd card and fired it up.
No card. Nothing mounted at /media/card and doing a manual
2008/8/3 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS in
(Swiss) German. That's why it would be really useful to use Umlauts (ä, ö,
ü / Ä, Ö, Ü). Unfortunately Umlauts mess up the whole message text. They are
replaced by {, } or even
Hello everyone!
I received my Freerunner from Pulster about a week ago! It's a really great
device and absolutely useful! Thanks to everyone who made this possible.
I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS in
(Swiss) German. That's why it would be really useful to
Hi
Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset?
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IMEI
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:36 PM
la, 2008-08-02 kello 12:17 -0700, Learning It
su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti:
Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset?
No.
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It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM
su, 2008-08-03 kello
no, we haven't, everything with GSM is in a very strict NDA.
Learning It schrieb:
Hi
Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset?
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IMEI
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
2008/8/1 Justin Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I dont mind the language on top for this page, but if we can get rid
of Main Page at the top, that'd be GREAT. Right now, it's taking up
a lot of real estate and I don't think we really need the page name
for this page.
The changes look good. I like
More info:
todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the
problem with the desktop theme or screen or whatever.
If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU look and feel on
the screen, I will be very happy.
I hope I don't need to reflash my FR to get it fixed.
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On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 14:05 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
More info:
todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the
problem with the desktop theme or screen or whatever.
If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU look and feel on
the screen, I will be very
Hi Chris, Mokos
Am Samstag, den 02.08.2008, 14:13 -0700 schrieb C R McClenaghan:
I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS
working on FSO Milestone 2 release.
There is a way to use the GPRS panel of SettingsGUI with FSO.
You can find a guide on how to use it in
Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a
Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is
interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks
like and how the Freerunner fits in.
[x] Interested! :)
I took some photos and uploaded
Hi.
Learning It schrieb:
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm
The fact that specs for the GSM chipset cannot be released to the public
was communicated to the community from day 1. Furthermore there is no
non-free stuff on the Linux side of things in the Freerunner.
yes
Francesco Cat wrote:
have you tried a different SD before sending it??
2008/8/3 Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix.
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Am Samstag 02 August 2008 23:13:41 schrieb C R McClenaghan:
I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS
working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it
matters.
Hmm, d'oh. Why was that needed? FSO already works w/ GPRS here. Did you try
the PDP
i think harder than the gsm-nonfree-code are troubles with the glamo
chip, i dont like to have a 3d-chip in my phone which does nothing
expect of burning energy :( i think these NDA-troubles and the fact that
there is no OpenGL ES driver are harder than don't have the gsm-firmware.
regards,
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:57:01 -0400
Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been using FSO milestone 2 and liking it.
Is there a setting to disable the zhone screen locker? If I want to
lock I can just press the Aux button.
Not in the current builds, sorry. PM functions, locking and
Matt Joyce wrote:
The wiki has some interesting info on GSM :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm
The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands
(I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem
commands ala Hayes?)
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would
you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at
speed?
Tim
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM, André Gaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a
Paul Buede wrote:
Matt Joyce wrote:
The wiki has some interesting info on GSM :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm
The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands
(I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem
First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various settings
I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile total internet
plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script failing.
Using the settings from the T-mobile pppd scripts found on the Wiki, it
There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net?
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List for Openmoko community discussion
community@lists.openmoko.org
Date:
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:59:59 schrieb Craig B. Allen:
Is there any way to set the [excellent] full qwerty layout as the default?
Raster?
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Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:57:01 schrieb Craig B. Allen:
I've been using FSO milestone 2 and liking it.
Is there a setting to disable the zhone screen locker? If I want to
lock I can just press the Aux button.
You can specify the timeouts in seconds /etc/frameworkd.conf, e.g.:
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 04:57:32 schrieb Craig B. Allen:
Is there a media player that works reasonably well on FSO?
I tried the one from ASU but it is unusable.
Thanks.
Give openmoko-mediaplayer2 a try. You need to install the Gtk+ theme
openmoko-standard-theme-vga though to see all the
no, there isn't, this is because of the contracts and NDA's from all
GSM-Cipset-Manufacturer. the GSM-System is one of the best secrets ;) -
even better as the new BatMan-Movie
Learning It schrieb:
There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net?
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Robert
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It:
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm
Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth chipset, your GPS
chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem?
GSM is a closed market, there is only a
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 07:24 -0700, Learning It wrote:
There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net?
That would be illegal in most places.
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What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile
phones. It means somewhere exists such information.
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI
To:
I am trying to do a couple things, and noticed I don't see expect or
cron in the opkg list, or on the freerunner. Can someone, who packages,
make those available? I suppose I can try to set up a dev environment,
guess I could put make and stuff on the phone. I am pinched for time
though, so I
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Hi
The problem because the GSM chip has a closed firmware is because *laws*
in U.S. and I think also in other countries say that used must to to
have access to it.
Because it is a law, and Openmoko can not to go against laws, it was
told starting by
Hi guys!
i have tried a new image today from buildhost and it seems like the
matchbox-keyboard don't work anymore. everytime if i wabnt to install
the keyboard i get these errors:
# opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im_0.0\+svn
r1910-r10_armv4t.ipk
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:28:52 -0400 (EDT)
xaos x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various
settings I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile
total internet plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for
matchbox-keyboard-im:
* gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for
matchbox-keyboard-applet:
* gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *
i think you can safely override these with
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would
you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at
speed?
Hi Tim!
It holds the Freerunner pretty well, but for a bumpy track I would use
the hole at the bottom of the Freerunner to secure it additionally
Hello!
i want to install some software and need PyGTK for this. i have 2
questions: why isn't it in the repos anymore? and has anyone a build for
me? this would be very nice, because i don't have a mokoMakefile thanks
a lot,
Arne
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Patryk Cisek escreveu:
Hi,
It seems like recently daily snapshots don't work on QEMU:
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200808/
I tried 20080801 and 20080802. After downloading rootfs, kernel image and
u-boot, I flashed qemu with openmoko/flash.sh. After booting it
Learning It [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm
Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting
GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't
be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio
hi,
I updated the wiki of Group sales in Taipei
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Taipei
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Best Regards,
Mac Lin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Freerunner group sales in TAIWAN!!
Date: Thu,
Paul Buede wrote:
Matt Joyce wrote:
The wiki has some interesting info on GSM :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm
The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands
(I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem
I have t-mobile and the webconnect plan, and this worked for me, the version of
the script you show
did not work... Just change wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com
cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect
TIMEOUT 20
ABORT BUSY
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT
And that the three operators I could see in my tests
must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile
SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US
Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I
tested, including my
Paul,
Sounds like what you want is to run the GSM radio in promiscuous mode,
like some wireless Ethernet radios can do.
My old Razr and the Iphone would do something like that. It won't tell
you the carrier but it will list the available sites, with their ID and
signal strength. There is a
I was able to install it, a few days ago, by typing this in the terminal:
opkg install python-pygtk
D
Arne Zachlod wrote:
Hello!
i want to install some software and need PyGTK for this. i have 2
questions: why isn't it in the repos anymore? and has anyone a build for
me? this would
Learning It wrote:
What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile
phones. It means somewhere exists such information.
I wouldn't bother trying to reverse-engineer the GSM firmware itself.
The technical and legal barriers are too high for this to be a practical
Ah... I searched the wiki, but not the trac tickets.
Thanks for the link. I hope this bug is fixed soon!
Regards,
Tobias
On Sunday 03 August 2008 12:08:18 Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
2008/8/3 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS
On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:31, Esben Stien wrote:
Learning It [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm
Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting
GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't
yes, but since is isn't in the repos anymore this doesn't work. thats
why if you need i now you have to pack it by yourself. because i have no
MokoMakefile installed on my machine, i can't build the package by
myself as described in the wiki and because of this i can't install mofi
or
Did you have to set any special Environment variables or paths to get this to
work?
I have installed the toolchain on a Ubuntu Linux system, and it gets quite a
long way through, but
end up getting this error eventually...
see
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/20
since i switched to an 64bit t61 recently it gave me another package to
test -- minimo does not compile anymore ... (gripes about cannot access
nsBuildID.h: Invalid argument, whatever that means -- the file is there)
Hello
I have a freerunner, which I have updated to the latest 2007.2 build using
opkg update, and I have found that it is now ignoring the hardware buttons.
I know that the buttons themselves work, and that there is not a hardware
fault because the work normally in uboot, and Qtopia.
Has
Steven Kurylo wrote:
And that the three operators I could see in my tests
must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile
SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US
Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I
Still no dice... what's in your peer script? When I do a 'pppd nodetach debug
call gprs' (gprs is the name of my peer script), it hangs right after Starting
GPRS connect script and goes no further. I was able to connect once today
using qtopia, but for some reason it never connected again after
I talked with Tony this morning he said he uploaded it
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since i switched to an 64bit t61 recently it gave me another package to
test -- minimo does not compile anymore ... (gripes about cannot access
nsBuildID.h: Invalid argument, whatever that means -- the file is there)
just for the records (since this problem came up a while ago already):
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:56 AM, simarillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for numptyphysics:
* libsdl * libsdl-image *
Any ideas what I've done wrong? I'm running 2007.2, if that makes a
difference.
I got the same error messages but
A proper Kalman Filter, I would think, would have such limits since it
should have a model of vehicle dynamics.
Andy do you have any idea of the duration of SD IO?
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Yesterday Marko Mäkelä sent me some interesting information about a
charging solution for bicycles. He's not on the list and wants me to
forward his mail:
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Datum: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:56:15 +0300
An: André Gaul [EMAIL
Dear all,
GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2
Here is a summary, The USIM card is a Three prepaid for an A925,
The SIM is a Vodafone. Both Australian.
motorola/ USIM ok
motorola/ SIM SOS only (implies that emergency calls could be made)
GTA02/ USIM/ FSO ver 2 or
arne anka escreveu:
to the existing bb recipe. (the next make update will fail because
mokomakefile or oe fails to either respect or simply overwrite the recipe,
for what reason ever).
To make mokomakefile respect your change (including automatically
merging it when needed), just commit
Hi,
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:18:42 +
Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2
Here is a summary, The USIM card is a Three prepaid for an A925,
The SIM is a Vodafone. Both Australian.
GTA02/ SIM/ FSO ver 2 : does
Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it
return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell.
What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm daemon and I'm
very surprised it's not implemented this way.
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Hi folks.
Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU
images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/...
I see that all the links to ASU images in the mailing list end up in 404s...
So, 2 questions:
1 - where are ASU images;
2 - what exactly is hosted in
Hey
My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout
linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts:
http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/
a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less
physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's
Did you try the software fix first. And test before and after before
proceeding with the cap fix?
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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:17 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: SD Card
That's pretty damn clever.
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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:32 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: SDcard holder - convenience rework
for a nice handle to save your fingernails
2008/8/4 Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout
linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts:
http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/
a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less
physical
Ya, guillermo does nice work..
The right partnership could make a cool product.
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: RE: GPS application
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it
return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell.
What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm
Dr. HNS.
We would be happy to supply you with some gifts for your volunteers, things
like debug boards
Or spares kits for community members who help out at booth duty. We are
doing that at Linux
World. I think The idea of having the community help out at booths is great.
Hey are a part of the
I've been wondering the same thing, thought it was only me. It looks
like only August builds are up at the moment.
Vasco Névoa wrote:
Hi folks.
Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU
images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/...
I see that all the
Am So 3. August 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala:
su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti:
Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset?
No.
Actually OM *has*, but they are under heavy NDA.
Probably this also is the reason we must not provide FW-updates for users.
Even the
Put it on the wiki somewhere. Sounds cool.
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hey
My solution
So, it can't work on mediawiki system?
Openmoko wiki used media wiki.
Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side
(ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides
images) is contained within that very single .html file --
Robin
i like the idea of a generator to charge the neo, but don't like the
idea of using my pedal power directly.
Maybe for you it makes more sense to power off the screen and gps so
you can get to your destination quicker :)
In practice, people haven't been successful in regenerating
Maybe this is more of a standard linux question, but I don't know the
answer regardless.
Is there a way to test if sound is actually being pumped through the
sound card? I can lsof various devices in /dev/snd or check
/proc/asound/card0/pcmXX/sub0/status but those only tell me if a
client is
I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog:
http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/
That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger
and that will make for some awesome riding.
Cheers,
Tim
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Willmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2
just a hinch, but was that your first boot after flashing the device?
Possibly as I was changing it a lot. I will recheck tonight.
regards,
clare
I guess tomorrow it will be patented and in a few months will be
present in GTA03 ;-)
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008, steve wrote:
That's pretty damn clever.
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not sure what you meant...
I know that wiki.openmoko is media-wiki powered. But it is server-side
storage/wiki-renderer solution, that is why not appropriate for off-line
use. to overcome such problem I decided to look into tiddlywiki (which
is a wiki self-contained in a single file) which with
Yes, I can help it.
Can you give me your Google Account , then our IT can add you .
Brenda
Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
ha -- apparently Brenda could add my google account (yarikoptic) to see
the statistics 'online'
Stephen Pape wrote:
I can't find openmoko-agpsui in the repositories anymore, and the
links to download it are broken on the wiki.
I'm pretty sure that tangogps used to be in the repository too. I
can't even install it from the ipk.
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