Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Marc Bantle
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > 1. how many people want this? > +1 > 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution > for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) > I'd be fine with a tar.gz - image to put on SD-card. So size reduction is not necessaril

Re: usb charging rates

2008-08-11 Thread Brad Midgley
Ian This may be related to windows needing a real usb driver for the fr. brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/8/11 Dylan Semler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I too am getting "Connect script failed". I got it as well with 2007.2. > > # pppd debug nodetach call tmobile > timeout set to 15 seconds > send (\K\K\K\d+++ATH^M) > expect (OK) > alarm > send (AT^M) > expect (OK) > alarm > Failed > Connect script

usb charging rates

2008-08-11 Thread Ian Stephen
Charging my Freerunner on a dual boot laptop. Freerunner is running Qtopia from microSD card. Under Windows XP, on Freerunner cat sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type reports "host/500mA usb mode 100mA" But under Ubuntu it reports "host/500mA usb mode 500mA" R

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
[Resending from my other address] Hi, Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:14 +0200 schrieb Witoslaw Koczewski: > I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a > way to run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo > device? If you want you can use the packages pro

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/8/11 xaos x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I can get this working in om2007.2, by disabling gsmd, and performing the > other steps in the wiki, but it just doesn't work in 2008.8. I get the > connect script failed message. Perhaps there are some other packages you have > installed? or are you runni

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Vikas Saurabh
I had similar problems with my accels from these imagesperhaps one needs some kernel module installed as well. Nonetheless, I tried 2008.8 (check out wiki to see where to get the rootfs and kernel) and accels worked out of the box. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECT

camera for freerunner (was Re: What will be in GTA03?)

2008-08-11 Thread robin paulson
Tim Schmidt wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a >> camera in there. > > Please do some research before making baseless comments. Camera > modules do not cost $200. More like

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
> Is there a way to get the signal strength from the api or directly > from the gsm? Then we could see if there are any actual differences. In response to my own question, directly talking to the gsm I think we can get the signal strength with AT+CSQ but I have no idea how to do this with the qtop

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
> What I mean is, I had a stock OM build, that I had updated with opkg. > Then I went and flashed it with the two files in the qtopia package this > morning, that qtopia had just released. I haven't tried to update it at > all after flashing with qtopia. But I notice the reception seems > weaker,

Spares - broken case or LCD, ...

2008-08-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Is there any way to purchase cases or LCDs in the event of breakage? Also, I would like a few cases, to play with adding wifi to GTA01, for which I need to modify the case a bit, and I may break it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.op

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Lon Lentz
There is no standard for what each bar represents. There's no industry defined standard for it. So it's quite possible that two different phone OSes will represent the same signal strength with a different number of bars. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Ben Wilson
Most of the interesting things you can do with a built-in camera are not practical if you need to actually find and plug in a usb camera attachment every time you need it. Not to mention how ugly they look. A built-in camera is at the top of my wish-list for future GTAXX products. There are s

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 02:36 +0200, Holger Freyther wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2008 14:15:20 Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates > > over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the > > exhausted developers or has development switc

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Paul Buede
Tim Erwin wrote: >> Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this >> morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is >> weaker. >> > > I am just using the stock image from qtopia, I haven't done any updating. > I will do a update and see if I get the

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Jonathan Spooner wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now > I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or > more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting "No > network" as it does with a signal. > > Has an

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread W.Kenworthy
I tried to do this with 2008.8 to see if the keyboard mod would make it usable. What I ended up with was a broken X display - dont know if it fixed the phone issues (unable to register, where 2007.2 works fine) that I have as I havent put the SIM in it yet. I have a white background with icons bu

Re: New user saying hi

2008-08-11 Thread Robert William Hutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't usually use mailing lists, so I hope it's not bad etiquette just > to say hi! Probably. But you're not just saying hi, you've got a couple of good questions here. > I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so > far. This is my fir

New user saying hi

2008-08-11 Thread chris.barnard
Hi All, I don't usually use mailing lists, so I hope it's not bad etiquette just to say hi! I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so far. This is my first real use of Linux and I'm beginning to feel like I'm throwing myself off the deep end a bit, but I

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Holger Freyther
On Monday 11 August 2008 14:15:20 Norbert Hartl wrote: > Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates > over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the > exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? Hey ruediger, there will be an "testin

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
> Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this > morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is > weaker. I am just using the stock image from qtopia, I haven't done any updating. I will do a update and see if I get the same problem. Do you know what pa

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread Dylan Semler
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM, xaos x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can get this working in om2007.2, by disabling gsmd, and performing the > other steps in the wiki, but it just doesn't work in 2008.8. I get the > connect script failed message. Perhaps there are some other packages you > have

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Paul Buede
Tim Erwin wrote: >> I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now >> I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or >> more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting "No >> network" as it does with a signal. >> > > I am using the

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Christian Weßel wrote: > I tried to restart the X but that failed with an unreadable repeating > error message. Afterwards I had to reboot. Can you paste your /etc/matchbox/session? There might be an error in it. -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko communi

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
> I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now > I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or > more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting "No > network" as it does with a signal. I am using the qtopia 080808 release and have

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Jan Luebbe
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:15 +0200, Joachim Steiger wrote: > Pritam, Ghanghas (IE10) wrote: > > Hi All > > > > I had put this wish list once but no one considered that I guess. Is it > > that stupid? At least give your review guys. > > > > OMAP3530 > > http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/pr

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Montag 11 August 2008 17:14:00 schrieb Witoslaw Koczewski: > Hi, > > I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to > run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? Should be pretty simple. We actually develop most of it on the desktop :) The

Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-11 Thread Jonathan Spooner
Hi, I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting "No network" as it does with a signal. Has anylone looked into this? is it the fault

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Scott Petersen
On Mon, August 11, 2008 09:51, Julian Chu wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates >> over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the exhausted >> developers or has development switche

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i played with it a bit and came to the conclusion that it eats exactly | 1024byte from the beginning of the 'physical' blockdevice. atleast when | i backup these to nand, write them back via dd after loosin

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Steven **
I'm curious about this theme of yours. -Steven On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Jeremiah Flerchinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would > suggest changing the gtk theme to something that doesn't mess up > visibility of rendering like it has and matches the rest of the theme > better (I have a

Om2008.8 keyboard wishlist

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
I really like the newest on-screen keyboard, but I have some issues with it. Here's my wish list: - Learning If I use a word it should become a suggestion in the future. It should expire over time, and the more often I use it the more likely it should be to be the prominant suggestion. -

Re: Navit?

2008-08-11 Thread Mikael Berthe
* Jeffrey Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-11 21:44 +0200]: > > Except that when I select Route/Destination, it segfaults, complaining > that xkbd doesn't exist. > > This seems to be known - http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/96 > > Has anyone found a workaround? There's one in the wiki

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Clemens Kirchgatterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new* >> system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD. >> >> I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid

Re: Navit?

2008-08-11 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/8/5 Jeffrey Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On reflection, this is probably because I threw too big a map at it. > Without a map, at least it starts. No. It didn't like something in ~/.navit/navit.xml. I copied /usr/share/navit/navit.xml to ~/.navit/navit.xml, updated the map file data, and

Re: Laptop Replacement update

2008-08-11 Thread Florian Rebstock
respect. Am Montag 11 August 2008 20:56:31 schrieb Michael: > I didn't expect to get too many visitors viewing the site, so I was > surprised when the view numbers started to go up and this motivated me > to try a few more things. The power supply is soldered on a vero board > now and I have used

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
>For reference, the Qtopia 4.32-080808 uses the kernel named >uImage-2.6.24+git30+436204281bcd1fe5999ad6589ea7ab1b5360c352-r2-om-gta0 >2.bin >Ok, so I don't know what that really long name means or who wrote it . >:-) No one confirmed Yaroslav or corrected him either so this i

om2008.8 is awesome

2008-08-11 Thread xaos x
OK, the newest image solves the usability hinderences I've encountered and I even got GPRS working with the ability to receive incoming calls while online using the instructions here http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f

Laptop Replacement update

2008-08-11 Thread Michael
I didn't expect to get too many visitors viewing the site, so I was surprised when the view numbers started to go up and this motivated me to try a few more things. The power supply is soldered on a vero board now and I have used better capacitors this time. The new pictures are here: http://www

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Vinc Duran
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > well -- correct me if I am wrong, but the irony of the situation is that > suspend/wakeup is handled by the kernel, and qtopia images use stock > kernel from OM. Thus whatever suspend/resume achievements you see - they > are solely due

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
After the first start I got some new conf files in /opt/wicd/data/ 1. manager-settings.conf 2. wired-settings.conf 3. wireless-settings.conf Inside [1] I changed the wireless-interface to eth0 und the wired-interface to usb0. After restart of daemon and gui now I see the WLAN and LAN around FR. Ju

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread xaos x
sorry, i meant for this to be offlist. doh! -Tom - Original Message - From: "xaos x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:29:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner I

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread xaos x
I can get this working in om2007.2, by disabling gsmd, and performing the other steps in the wiki, but it just doesn't work in 2008.8. I get the connect script failed message. Perhaps there are some other packages you have installed? or are you running a pretty vanilla install of 2008.8 with lit

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 03:26 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: > Norbert Hartl wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: > >> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>> What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems > >>> other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking > >>> at the de

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Steven **
I might've spoken too soon. I think it does help to unmout/remount. I just noticed that the reason/method of the resume has an effect on this issue. In my debugging, I added scripts to /etc/apm/suspend.d/ and /etc/apm/resume.d/ that would unmount and remount my partitions. This didn't seem to ma

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give applications devs lots of potential. Any chance of you adding "shakes" to the gestures? This would be ideal for the "ball bearings in a tin can" style of unread email message-count. I was about to say "any chance of you adding shaking to the

Many happy returns

2008-08-11 Thread Mark Shewmaker
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 10:56:22PM +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: > > enter requires the 'hold for 2 seconds' rigmarole Thank you! In demoing 2008.8, I had thought there was no way to actually enter commands anymore, and so I have been been explaining that the terminal program had temporarily become

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Jeff Davis
BestSkinsEver is the same type of material as InvisibleShield, only much cheaper. Dunno if they have anything suitable for the OM though. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Thomas Bertani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/8/11 Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Baruch Even
* Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 17:38]: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: > >> Yes, > >> > >> Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give > >> them first access to new pro

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Ross Woodruff
I dont mean short gestures, those gestures were fine length wise, just your arm movements were big if that makes sense, for example the cirlce you made a really big circle, but is it not possible to make a much smaller circle and for the left and right ones, do you have to move it that far to t

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 12:44:10 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video > is not released yet :) > I will release a package this week. > try hexdump /dev/input/event2 > and hexdump /dev/input/event3 > > and restart your Neo :) Yes

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/11 Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 >> "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 >> And received it today (11 Aug). >> >> That's in Europe. >> Quite slow, but you'll eventually

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:26:05 +0200 Lars Formella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 00:46 +0800 schrieb Julian Chu: > > Hi Rorschach, > > > >You could try to use edje_decc to decompile edj file. > > rorschach, take a look at my site, decompile the files and play around

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-11 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new* > system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD. > > I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's > difficult to move things from the very live system

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: >> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems >>> other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking >>> at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't >>> understand it

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Lars Formella
Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 00:46 +0800 schrieb Julian Chu: > Hi Rorschach, > >You could try to use edje_decc to decompile edj file. rorschach, take a look at my site, decompile the files and play around with it :) http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ in my "eye candy" illume file, i disabl

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:03:22 +0800 Tick Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rorschach, > It's a category of desktop file. "Bar" Ahh okay many thanks for the information, I thought this would be done by edj and enlighment! Didn't knew the desktop-files are used for such things. I just know a

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 > "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 > And received it today (11 Aug). > > That's in Europe. > Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. > > > I got mine too. About the same time frame

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
I had a look at the ticket and I searched for a button to add information to it, sadly not found. I hope, that someone of the dfu_util developer will read here too. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 09:28 -0700 schrieb Mike Montour: > Christian Weßel wrote: > > Hello > > > > I tried to save my rootfs by

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Steven **
I did try this. It doesn't help. I added little scripts to /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d. Unless there's someplace else those should be. I did find that slowing the SD clock (per ticket #1743 about the Intenso SD card issue) had a positive effect. Kinda. See http://docs.openmoko.org/

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Ilja O.
I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:58 +0200 schrieb Rorschach: > What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? > > python wicd/daemon.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# python /opt/wicd/daemon.py/opt/wicd wicd daemon: pid 1894 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# lono wireless extensio

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Tick Chen
Hi Rorschach, It's a category of desktop file. "Bar" Please change the desktop file of assassin like this. --- /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktopThu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktop.newMon Aug 11 09:24:56 2008 @@ -9,4 +9,4 @@ Icon=assassin Termi

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates > over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the > exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? > > Norbert > > > ___

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Daniel, As you know, I had problems with gestures.projects.openmoko.org and moved to http://accelges.googlecode.com Should I erase the project from gestures.projects.openmoko.org, or should I move back to *.projects and erase the one from googlecode. The bitbake is here http://code.google.com/p/

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 06:04:59PM +0200, Rorschach wrote: > Hi, > are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I > want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without > this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this t

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The listener daemon doesn't start up automatically, only the one that recognizes gestures. For on, it just sends the recognized gesture, regardless of the context the phone is. Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wro

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that - I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release. Yes, there are 2 daemons, one that processes the gestures and sends signals on dbus, and a listener daemon that listens for gestures and runs the actions

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Yes, you'll be able to record, and train your own gestures; by running the Gestures app with the GUI. Of course, you get more flexibility in command line, that's how I do it, but you'll be able to do the same things in GUI mode. Gestures already use DBUS, system bus on org.openmoko.accelges (as in

Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Hi, are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this things. But it seems there are absolutly no information about illum

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Please wait till Thursday/Friday when I'll release the package with what you saw in the video :) The alpha release that is now for download is obsolete, as it's one month old. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Looks great! I've basically got the same quest

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread C R McClenaghan
There have now been several posts related to the successful use of GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The FSO platform through it's mdbus/dbus interface seems to accomplish this. [1] below des

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Begin on AUX button can be implemented easily. The problem is that the framework on the Neo is really not there yet, because I would have liked it to associate some gestures with actual actions on the Neo. But I'll be working with John Lee, and Daniel to do that in the future. Also, the release tha

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Those were some gestures that I thought were useful to use - due to lack of imagination for short gestures. If anyone can think to some short gestures, please tell me how these short gestures should look like, and I'll create them. We're not constraint to use those gestures, not at all. Paul On M

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Gestures don't work like this, I don't know the shape of the gesture. For each gesture, I have a model that I previously created. Each model competes to be recognized, and every time you make a move, the model with the highest probability is chosen. You can know the shape of the gesture only if you

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Montour
Christian Weßel wrote: > Hello > > I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U > good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with > > dfu_upload error -108 Sorry, I don't know what that error means. However anyone wanting to use "dfu-util -U" should lo

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? python wicd/daemon.py python wicd/gui.py ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Ticket created. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1808 On Monday 11 August 2008 10:50:11 Daniel Benoy wrote: > Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. > > So, I tried the accelerometer test script here > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval

dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with dfu_upload error -108 My host reported: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:0f.2-1, CDC Ethernet Device, ba:f3:e6:14:4a:e3 What's wrong? -- mfg/

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hey, On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0200 "Paul-Valentin Borza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video > showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based > gestures project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motio

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Sure does :) It will be important to maintain the ability to turn off default gesture handling, if the user wants to install some other handler. Although, the 'shaking inbox' thing described by the earlier poster would probably not conflict with gestures. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about

python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello, for my notebook I found a very good NetworkManager spare called wicd (http://wicd.sourceforge.net/), it is a python based application to handle WLAN. I am a absolute python newbie. But this little appl. is pretty nice and I want to bring it up and running on FR. First I installed python m

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Dale Maggee
Cool! Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > Hi, > > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing > what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 > > There still are

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Andy Green wrote: [...] > Hey don't lose hope. There are two issues. First is just some big > cards are too slow to respond at default 16MHz clock with Glamo 16-bit > clock count timeout counter. See this > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 > > Suspend / resume (partition overwrite

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:11, Mike Baroukh wrote: >> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check >> for new messages if you're on your provider's own network ... >> I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August >> 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in t

Re: cpu-speed limitations

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Rod Whitby wrote: > Hmm - there's a current issue regarding the GTA01 GPS gllin driver and > kernel /sys filesystem paths, so the response of Openmoko to that > "previous generation" issue is probably a good indicator of the sort of > attention that GTA02 Glamo will get once GTA03 is released.

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-11 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > / Fredrik Wendt, who also has the exact same device Scott has, as many > others do too but doesn't scream WTF as soon his/her proclaimed > non-finished device shows it's serious hickups thx, you speak from my heart. best regards ... clemens ___

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote: >> ... >> I'm slightly disappointed that the "shaking inbox" wouldn't be >> accommodated by the gestures you've made available. >> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/11/shoogle_gives_your_cellphone_b.html >> >> This use is even mentioned on the wiki page y

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Andrew Burgess
Perhaps this will help until Andy gets the new kernel ready. I had vanishing partition table problems on my OLPC XO (fixed now in kernel 2.6.25). I found that I could avoid data loss by doing two things: 1) create a swap partition as the first partition. 2) when the table vanishes, recreate it EXA

zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Witoslaw Koczewski
Hi, I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? Thank You, Witek___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 11:00:50 Stroller wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > > ... > > There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, > > but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with > > everything you've just seen in the YouTub

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
> > I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August > 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in the subject) but perhaps not > very clearly, as I hoped for more replies. Apparently I wasted too > Well, I found your post. Effectively, it was pretty ... long ... On each typ

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check > for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when > you are on holiday in Spain. i am afraid that's beyond the scope of the solution i outlined. though i guess as soon as the necessary informations are avai

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Hi there, I'm slightly disappointed that the "shaking in

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a > camera in there. Please do some research before making baseless comments. Camera modules do not cost $200. More like $10. Less in quantity. See

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Still no output. Is there something I have to do to turn the accelerometers on? On Monday 11 August 2008 03:35:39 Paul-Va

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 10:52, arne anka wrote: > ... all programs > connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of > connection you use. What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when y

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
>> > inotify >> >> does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? > > No, inotify is an observer at runtime. thought so. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commu

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Matt
Bravo Paul, I'm looking forward to this project maturing. Will your next release be able to record new gestures or only detect the ones in the demo? Am I right in thinking this will use dbus and detected gestures will generate events for other apps for use. Regards Matt Paul-Valentin Borza wr

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