Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
On Monday 18 August 2008, you wrote: You should never set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to -1 on an already working recipe, just because you added a better svn recipe. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm new to bitbake and found that to be the only difference between the 0.0.4 and svn bitbake files and therefore concluded that this setting will select the preferred version. In addition to this, since you modified the recipe, you should have changed PR = r0 to PR = r1. It is a common occurrence for there to be multiple working versions of a recipe in OE. Use PREFERRED_VERSION and sane-srcrevs.inc to select between alternative working versions and prefer one for a specific distribution. Please feel free to adapt the bitbake patch before committing it to git and forgive my ignorance :-) I was merely trying to get a working ipk for myself. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll try harder next time! Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gestures now working on fso-testing
Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
sorry, brainfart on my part. I thought you were referring to the AUX button moddable by xmodmap. This is no longer possible for some reason. 2008/8/18 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
On Mon 18 August 2008 om 08:28:06 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: sorry, brainfart on my part. I thought you were referring to the AUX button moddable by xmodmap. This is no longer possible for some reason. Strange that AUX doesn't send keyevents anymore. Anyone care to explain why? Anyways, using some very simple perl and http://sourceforge.net/projects/x11guitest you can send almost any event you would ever want to a X11 application. So that might work. 2008/8/18 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- I don't give a fuck if they remember me at all. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU
Le dimanche 17 août 2008 à 18:02 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : A little update On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, possible rason for filure - the neo1973 kernel is back: I now have the correct kernel installed, but still - no sound - AUC button doesn't lock screen - phone is not registered on the network I'm experiencing the same problems with sound and registration (didn't check and I'm using Qtopia : only way to place calls) As for the registratoin, you maybe are a victim of https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1766#comment:17 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO vs. OM2008.8
Hi, I wonder whether to use FSO or OM2008.8 on my freerunner. What are the advantages/disadvantages of these? Where are the differences? I read that both distributions will be merged some time, are there any estimates when this might be? Thanks, Katrin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO-vs.-OM2008.8-tp730298p730298.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit?
2008/8/18 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I assume it has to do with this: http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=revrevision=1169 I guess it's time for me to learn how to build packages for Openmoko. Or use http://www.acoveo.org/navit_0.1.0+svnrev1255-r0_armv4t.ipk which should have the patch applied. Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian help - XFCE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sebastian I am using your patch and simply it is perfect. You could add also the visive feedback, but for me is usefull also so. In this moment I am using my FR with Debian + XFCE + Pidgin etc etc. About the calibration it work with your new calibration. It seem to be that the start point is on TOP-LEFT but then, when I move the pointer, it move only of X/2 and Y/2. I think you have to check what you modified. In every case thank you for your patch, it gave me the possibility to full use my XFCE DE Regards Michele Renda Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 18:15 +0200, arne anka wrote: thanks for the fast work -- but it seems to damage calibration. in the upper left corner stylus and pointer are at the same position, but the more i go towards lower right, the greater the gap betwen the pointer position and the position i tap. when in the lower right corner, the pointer is at maybe 2/3. i had the same problems. simply download http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal and cat it again in /etc/pointercal. i don't know why there is a version for fso and non-fso ... i thought that the calibration data should be independent of the framework. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIqSedSIAU/I6SkT0RAoU1AKCDrpm4oPg8JVwh3K16EizVEl97vQCdFK27 gi09BNOLsL3IQ6xUP65iN20= =frXO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTopia and WiFi
Le vendredi 15 août 2008 à 22:20 +0200, Cédric Berger a écrit : On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 20:22, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway bottom line is does work. -- Thanks, I'll try again Well I manage to have it say connected, but have no network access... I experience the same behaviour Did you set anything, such as DNS server manually (in config files...) ? I get the resolv.conf correctly configured by my router (freebox) but in my latest attempt with an open wlan (McDonalds) it wasn't set. I'm keeping the address in a file somewharer now to manually set it if need be. However I think there a routing conflict between usb0 and eth0 (the wifi interface) : both are default gateways. For me ifconfig usb0 down when wifi is enabled fixes it. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Micro SDHC card working ?
Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia Wlan gui
Le samedi 16 août 2008 à 17:06 +0200, Cédric Berger a écrit : On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 16:39, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to setup a WAP protected wlan using the Qtopia gui but I'd rather not type my very-long-passphrase on the keyboard. Is there a way to do some copy-pasting to the right file (and which one is it) by ssh ? I think it is in : /home/root/Settings/Network/wireless/eth0 In what field to you type your key ? I tried typing a bogus key from the gui and it didn't show anywhere in this file, but appeared in /home/root/Applications/Network/config/wlan0.conf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:54:28 +0200 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: if its asu or 2008.08 - AUX is a grabbed key - the wm grabs it for screenlock. that means its already taken as a global key (just like pressing alt+tab on your desktop will begin to cycle windows, but the app will NEVER SEE alt+tab as its stolen for another use). this is keybinding configuration for e/illume (you can change bindings, but you'd lose the quick AUX lock. same for power button). On Mon 18 August 2008 om 08:28:06 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: sorry, brainfart on my part. I thought you were referring to the AUX button moddable by xmodmap. This is no longer possible for some reason. Strange that AUX doesn't send keyevents anymore. Anyone care to explain why? Anyways, using some very simple perl and http://sourceforge.net/projects/x11guitest you can send almost any event you would ever want to a X11 application. So that might work. 2008/8/18 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Xmodmap USED to do the trick but this has changed since. I don't know why this functionality was removed... 2008/8/17 Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun 17 August 2008 om 17:18:16 GMT Thorben Krueger told us: Maybe one of you knows a solution? Any terminal app that can send keycodes to a running application? xmodmap might do the trick -- Forwarded message -- From: Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/17 Subject: Re: Customize AUX button? Needed for scummvm To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, putting a custom key into the aux menu could do the trick, too. How do I send a keycode to a running program? would be pretty neat to have that feature. 2008/8/17 Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need an application (scummvm) to rebind aux button to F5. AUX used to send a keyboard event, but this was removed. Would be glad for help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- I don't give a fuck if they remember me at all. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
Related to the test the Sandisk 8GB SDHC card should work. But I guess the price of 34€ is too much, I ordered yesterday one for 21,-€. christian Am Montag, den 18.08.2008, 09:42 +0200 schrieb Lothar Behrens: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks do you know the serial number? compare it against this list if you do http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
Means this that SDHC cards can be used in general ? Thanks Lothar Am 18.08.2008 um 10:19 schrieb xiangfu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 8GB :-) Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar -- Lothar Behrens|Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2|XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSKkwqRFuNemPXNFjAQLOUAf/dMj46v+95IbWDvPM7O2dlluSDJjgkmoy VGzLIW/fW5iwzY+Vl4lGtcqaBSqMDjD1iwo1fIOCl7wF9bRNPDfcaWcO9RWC9RVw OlrPUysg7a9UdI5KXw5Dr7Pm0mhcrteHT9t0b//eHZ0aRxRkEu892HDuZVjRDXfK vZfDxPOWMJuhX8c1pEdHb1XBtTWyUhrujfrwVIm05snG2J8c4spe9c1XASwU+7dY +4rTmvIjDluujyfxUnvojjx8KIAMXFGyoZIR3U9+6ocZq/dJi6NTcf41Mf6ombsp 1Wffxg1L+sMlkcTw4/QZSN73aOlFwETTgDr2QTVMx2Q1psHgZMh1vA== =9YmY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: touch screen driving me nuts!
if we look at the pic, the top 4 red lines are deviated upwards with the one closest to the centre being the most deviated, and the lowest 4 red lines are deviated downwards with the one closest to the centre being the most deviated again.. it does certainly look like a weird pressure from somewhere to me... was it like this when you got the device?, i'm no expert in this area but i think some excess pressure has been applied on the unit's screen or something before... from the middle i guess.. or something dropped and the shape of the screen got bent very slightly maybe.. what do you guys think? On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Kim Alvefur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 23:19 -0600, -stacy wrote: http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/neoFreeRunner/touchscreen.pnghttp://www.millions.ca/%7Estacy/neoFreeRunner/touchscreen.png I got the feeling that there is some weird pressure from somewhere. Like there's something stuck under it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 8GB :-) Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar -- Lothar Behrens|Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2|XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSKkwqRFuNemPXNFjAQLOUAf/dMj46v+95IbWDvPM7O2dlluSDJjgkmoy VGzLIW/fW5iwzY+Vl4lGtcqaBSqMDjD1iwo1fIOCl7wF9bRNPDfcaWcO9RWC9RVw OlrPUysg7a9UdI5KXw5Dr7Pm0mhcrteHT9t0b//eHZ0aRxRkEu892HDuZVjRDXfK vZfDxPOWMJuhX8c1pEdHb1XBtTWyUhrujfrwVIm05snG2J8c4spe9c1XASwU+7dY +4rTmvIjDluujyfxUnvojjx8KIAMXFGyoZIR3U9+6ocZq/dJi6NTcf41Mf6ombsp 1Wffxg1L+sMlkcTw4/QZSN73aOlFwETTgDr2QTVMx2Q1psHgZMh1vA== =9YmY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gestures now working on fso-testing
I'm happy now... Thanks Denis. I'll try the new FSO image today :) Paul On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Lothar Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a091a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar I have a similar 8GB SanDisk and it works ok. There has been some partition info loss bug reps and stuff. But generally it should be ok. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finger stylus found...
Hi, is this an alternative stylus ? http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 Regards Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tiny stylus in lanyard hole (warning: half-assed)
I have thought about boring a hole into the case i really like to see that :-) *scnr* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO vs. OM2008.8
I wonder whether to use FSO or OM2008.8 on my freerunner. What are the fso is rather a design study -- it's intended to be a vehicle to develop a framework which applications might use to communicate with each other and the device. right now there's not much more but phone, sms, contacts and a gps application. for the merger: shr attempts to reach that goal, i don't know if there's a release already. for the time being 2008.8 might be the better choice -- it offers the same functionality as fso but a lot of additional applications, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko-message2 problem?
Hi all: i'm debugging openmo-messages2 app on host, with a external modem. if i select the Unknow sender in the contact note page, the sms will not be displayed in the note page, the method jana_store_get_component always return NULL, does anyone solve this problem before, i have beem confused by this for a few days, thanks. tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
Lothar Behrens a écrit : Hi, is this an alternative stylus ? http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 I know there are many accessory kits for the Nintendo DS that have this kind of finger stylus, and they are cheap (I've seen in a market a kit with several stylus for 3 or 4 euros). I'll see this evening if my girlfriend has one for her DS Lite (I remember having seen one) to test it on my FR. Regards, Nicolas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 poses the question where to put when you don't need it. a little regular stylus (i i use those for nintendo ds after some sharpening/shortening) can be put in your pocket w/o much harm, but that thing looks a bit bulky. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
Fits most fingers, haha how would they know that? :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 poses the question where to put when you don't need it. a little regular stylus (i i use those for nintendo ds after some sharpening/shortening) can be put in your pocket w/o much harm, but that thing looks a bit bulky. I think this is more about being cool than being practical. It reminds me some heavy metal/emo artifact like this: http://www.elcallejondelinfierno.com/images/categories/garra%20cruz%20malta.jpg (I think it could also work). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
nice one :p well check this one out... this is the stylus all of you need to go and get it now, it's the 'fashion' :p One of our customers asked for a clip to keep their tethered stylus from dangling. So, we found the perfect clip to keep the tethered stylus, inkless stylus, finger or pen cap stylus in place. Clip has an adhesive pad that sticks to most surfaces. Great way to keep your TrueTip styli in one location! Bag of 10 white clips. http://store01.prostores.com/servlet/truetip/Detail?no=45 I think this is more about being cool than being practical. It reminds me some heavy metal/emo artifact like this: http://www.elcallejondelinfierno.com/images/categories/garra%20cruz%20malta.jpg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page Here are just five of the many benefits of our finger stylus and pen cap stylus: 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to clean your screen. 4. TrueTip styluses reduce costly repairs due to damage done by foreign objects and fingernails. 5. Using TrueTip styli will eliminate scratches, smudges, smears, marks, food prints, and oils, and ink from your PDA or touch screen. (number 5 makes sense the most) -- do germans get this once arne? :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
Am Montag 18 August 2008 10:50:49 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Lothar Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have found this product and like to ask if it is compatible with FreeRunner. http://www.shoxx.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/7919?sID=2e84a0 91a4cd9fb0bd4cd79aa583aa58 Is it ? Thanks Lothar I have a similar 8GB SanDisk and it works ok. There has been some partition info loss bug reps and stuff. But generally it should be ok. r My 4gig sandisk sdhc card works fine (access, booting from it), too. Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page sorry? 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to clean your screen. 4. TrueTip styluses reduce costly repairs due to damage done by foreign objects and fingernails. 5. Using TrueTip styli will eliminate scratches, smudges, smears, marks, food prints, and oils, and ink from your PDA or touch screen. what part strikes you as stupid? (number 5 makes sense the most) -- do germans get this once arne? :p beg your pardon? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
It was only a suggestion. I am not sure if it is really useful :-) Lothar Am 18.08.2008 um 12:09 schrieb Flyin_bbb8: well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page Here are just five of the many benefits of our finger stylus and pen cap stylus: 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to clean your screen. 4. TrueTip styluses reduce costly repairs due to damage done by foreign objects and fingernails. 5. Using TrueTip styli will eliminate scratches, smudges, smears, marks, food prints, and oils, and ink from your PDA or touch screen. (number 5 makes sense the most) -- do germans get this once arne? :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
Have a look at ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/Thumb-Stylus-3-Pack-for-PDA-Nintendo-DS-Finger-Stylus_W0QQitemZ140257423792QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140257423792_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 http://cgi.ebay.de/3-x-Finger-Thumb-Stylus-for-PDA-Cell-phone-touch-screen_W0QQitemZ380055202311QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item380055202311_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 http://cgi.ebay.de/Silicon-Finger-Pens-Stylus-Nintendo-DS-Lite-x2-PAIR-UK_W0QQitemZ160272468278QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160272468278_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 christian Am Montag, den 18.08.2008, 10:58 +0200 schrieb Lothar Behrens: Hi, is this an alternative stylus ? http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 Regards Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gestures now working on fso-testing
Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. Great work! Marcel Am Montag 18 August 2008 10:51:18 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: I'm happy now... Thanks Denis. I'll try the new FSO image today :) Paul On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gestures now working on fso-testing
Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. What do you mean with especially ? For me, it works as for OM2008.8 : there is always a problem with screen calibration when horizontal ... Not with your's ? Marcel a écrit : Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. Great work! Marcel Am Montag 18 August 2008 10:51:18 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: I'm happy now... Thanks Denis. I'll try the new FSO image today :) Paul On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Opie-Reader qpk for the Qtopia distro
I've had at least one report that it is at least usable and working reasonably well so it is probably worth adding to the feed - it seems to be at least good enough to read a few ebooks with and I'll make it all a bit nicer when I get a chance. 2008/8/17 Tim Wentford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course you can add it to the feed (the Greenphone was the original test environment, after all 8^). But check it works first It is pretty much optimised for the Greenphone ATM, other than I flipped the flag to use screen touches for navigation so it is usable. Does the touch and hold right mouse button emulation work on the Freerunner? If not, it'll be painful swapping mouse actions to select navigation links, and then swapping back for page up/down etc. If it proves popular enough, and I can't get a build environment working, I'll go back to Qtopia again and sort it out. 2008/8/17 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim Wentford wrote: I've used the Qtopia SDK to build an Opie-Reader package for the Qtopia image since it is the only SDK I can get working ATM. Now that Opie seems fairly irrelevant to the Freerunner I've renamed Opie-Reader to ArriereGo (thanks to Guylhem Aznar for the new name suggestion). I'm persisting with the 2008.08 image ATM since I am using my Greenphone as an actual phone, and I'm hoping to actually be able to build a QT app for 2008.08 one day, so I have no way of testing the current build, though a previous build did work. Could the first person to try it please reply to this thread with a confirmation of success or failure. You can get it at: http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/ArriereGo_1.0.0-2_arm.qpk It defaults to using screen taps for page up/down/back/home/forward with the screen divided up like: UUU BHF DDD Where U is page-up (i.e. top third of screen, etc), B is back, H is home, F is forward and D is page down. If it doesn't work, and I don't get enough spare time to get a working SDK for QT apps under 2008.08, I'll go back to Qtopia and fix it so let me know. Would it be ok for me to add this to the feed at qtopia.net? That way people can install it without having to setup a local web server . -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gestures now working on fso-testing
2008/8/18 Mike Baroukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. What do you mean with especially ? For me, it works as for OM2008.8 : there is always a problem with screen calibration when horizontal ... Not with your's ? The screen calibration is partially fixed in the last kernel's and FSO images, for me work's fine right now :) Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Marcel a écrit : Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. Great work! Marcel Am Montag 18 August 2008 10:51:18 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: I'm happy now... Thanks Denis. I'll try the new FSO image today :) Paul On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gestures now working on fso-testing
Am Montag 18 August 2008 13:29:43 schrieb Mike Baroukh: Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. What do you mean with especially ? For me, it works as for OM2008.8 : there is always a problem with screen calibration when horizontal ... Not with your's ? The calibration still isn't correct, that's true. But the software part of changing the orientation in the xserver is just fine. Marcel Marcel a écrit : Especially the screen orientation change works fine and is really useful. Great work! Marcel Am Montag 18 August 2008 10:51:18 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: I'm happy now... Thanks Denis. I'll try the new FSO image today :) Paul On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who may be interested in the gestures project http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures. After some assist today kudos to rwhitby to get some prerequisite packages built into the feeds, I have successfully installed the gestures package on latest fso-testing image. Gesture training, recognition and screen orientation flipping works and so far I have not encountered any problems. images and feeds used: http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080817-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary neo1973/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin gesture package: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.i pk Followed basic instruction on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures Enjoy, Denis irc: hipitihop on #openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit language?
Hi everybody, i want to change the default language in which navit speaks to german but i don't find the necessary config for this. I use rev 1255 with map move speed patch and everything (else) works fine. :) Now i tried a simple export LANG=de_DE and started navit but this seems to have no effect at all. I also installed the package navit-locale-de for this purpose. I see that in the source tree within the directory po all the language files exist. I also changed the navit.xml entry for the speech engine to spd-say -l de '%s' which pronounces the sentences the german way. But the sentence strings still comes in english to the speech engine. I tried to find the needed information in the navit wiki, but i only found the needed changes to the speech entry in the navit.xml. But this entry just changes the way the sentence is spoken, not the language navit reports the sentences. :( Can anybody say me where the option to change the language is? Or must it be compiled with the wanted language and it can't be changed afterwards? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:19 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page sorry? 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to clean your screen. 4. TrueTip styluses reduce costly repairs due to damage done by foreign objects and fingernails. 5. Using TrueTip styli will eliminate scratches, smudges, smears, marks, food prints, and oils, and ink from your PDA or touch screen. what part strikes you as stupid? hmm, oils 'n ink from your PDA or touch screens? (number 5 makes sense the most) -- do germans get this once arne? :p beg your pardon? it was sarcasm, no offense there, sorry if i couldn't make that more understandable, Lothar it might be useful, can't answer as i also haven't tried such stylii :), number 1 might be true in the end? but 5 doesn't sound quite correct :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO vs. OM2008.8
Hi, for the time being 2008.8 might be the better choice -- it offers the same functionality as fso but a lot of additional applications, too. OK, thanks for this info. Acutally, when trying FSO I had the feeling it might be a bit faster starting applications. However, didn't perform any measurements. Katrin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO-vs.-OM2008.8-tp730298p730593.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 23:29, John Koenig wrote: Is it possible to remove the touchscreen from its mounting on the GTA02? Visually it looks possible, but it certainly doesn't seem to want to come out easily. Did you actually manage to get a new sceen yet? I #%([EMAIL PROTECTED]@#)$#%)[EMAIL PROTECTED] dropped my freerunner on the pavement which broke the screen. Please keeps us updated if you are actually going to repair your freerunner. I'm not very keen on getting a whole new freerunner just because the screen is broken. Anyone around with a GTA01 to get rid off or a freerunner which is broken in some other way? If that doesn't work i'll have to find some use for a 400Mhz low power debian system. A few lessons learned during my holiday: - The freerunner does work at altitudes above 2000m. - It will also work fine at speeds around 180 km/h... - ...but operating the touchscreen while driving isn't that easy. - (Up to ~140Km/h the speedometer of my car is remarkably accurate). - Just a heading towards your destination is generally quite usefull... - ...but less usefull when there's a huge mountain inbetween. - You can only use it as just GPS for more around 6 hours. - A nokia BL-5C makes a fine spare battery. - A toothpick is perfectly useable as a styles, cheaper to replace as well. - An cheapo usb car charger will happily charge at 1 amp. - You can drag it up and down a few mountains without problems. - You will break it during a 'save' trip to a nice old village... AVee -- Q) Which came first, the multithreaded chicken or the multithreaded egg? A) They came at the same time, but the multithreaded chicken terminated first. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian - alsa sound ?
* Sebastian Ohl: i tried to turn my gta02 into a musicplayer on the debian distro. does anyone managed to get any sound out of it ? i see that the alsa modules are loaded and the alsamixer says every volume value is at its maximum. so what am i doing wrong by calling mpg321 file.mp3 . the player says it is playing but there is no sound not from the speaker nor from a headset i pluged in. any suggestions what i'm doing wrong? Have you tried alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/stereoout.state restore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO vs. OM2008.8
Well, telephony under OM2008.8 doesn't work for me (bug #1766, https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1766), so I'm trying to install FSO. If I understand correctly, telephony is handled differently in 2008.8 and FSO, where it's a qtopia app in 2008.8, and FSO is writing a dbus service to handle telephony. Long term, it seems better to work on the FSO services than the QTopia apps. I'm trying to install FSO on my SD card, but having problems which I asked about in a previous e-mail to the list today. /Erland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
the FSO packaging team of the Debian project[1] is happy to announce that we have started to provide installation procedures and packages required to have your FreeRunner[2] run Debian-powered. This is really great news! Hooray for Debian rescuing us from the Freerunner dilemna! ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian - alsa sound ?
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:55:46 +0200 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/stereoout.state restore Yes but this changes nothing. The same errors as I posted before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Purchasing Neo Freerunner in the UK
I want to buy a openmoko. how to connect you ? and price? I'm living Cambridge for a business travel, and I will go back China at Sep 5th. How can I pay ? cash or credit card of Bank Of China. Waiting your response. Thanks. Yang Ming. 2008/7/25 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ross, I work for Oxford Archaeology, we're startign to distribute FreeRunners to various people for the purposes of encouraging development and general community good will. I've recently been told that our prices are less than other resellers too! Drop me an email if you'd like a FreeRunner from us. Best regards, Joseph http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/ 2008/7/24 Ross Woodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hope this is the right mailing list to ask this but I am just wondering where people in the UK purchased their FreeRunners from. I'm thinking of getting one in the near future and just wondering if anybody has used the TrueBox distributor or if you bought yours elsewhere, perhaps somewhere else in Europe... I'd just like to see which would be the best place for me to purchase a FreeRunner if there is anywhere else that ships to the UK and will work on a UK phone network (I'm on O2). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen
It seems possible to get it replaced and it is pretty reasonable in terms of price as well (57 USD + 20 USD for shipping) . I have been in communication with this Chinese reseller: http://www.qinyielectronics.com I am going to be completing the transaction with them today. If you want to hold off purchasing until after I receive mine; I will be sure to post up the aftermath. At least that way if they are fraudulent only one of us will be out the cash ;). Otherwise, it is possible to remove the screen and it required nothing more than the guitar pick that I used to open the case. The only tricky part was the connection to the main board. There is a small black locking mechanism that flips up and allows for the LCD panel to be disconnected from the main board. I haven't heard much from Koolu (my reseller) yet as to whether or not they would be willing to RMA the system. Last time they checked in with me they were contacting the manufacturer to see if it was even possible. John AVee wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 23:29, John Koenig wrote: Is it possible to remove the touchscreen from its mounting on the GTA02? Visually it looks possible, but it certainly doesn't seem to want to come out easily. Did you actually manage to get a new sceen yet? I #%([EMAIL PROTECTED]@#)$#%)[EMAIL PROTECTED] dropped my freerunner on the pavement which broke the screen. Please keeps us updated if you are actually going to repair your freerunner. I'm not very keen on getting a whole new freerunner just because the screen is broken. Anyone around with a GTA01 to get rid off or a freerunner which is broken in some other way? If that doesn't work i'll have to find some use for a 400Mhz low power debian system. A few lessons learned during my holiday: - The freerunner does work at altitudes above 2000m. - It will also work fine at speeds around 180 km/h... - ...but operating the touchscreen while driving isn't that easy. - (Up to ~140Km/h the speedometer of my car is remarkably accurate). - Just a heading towards your destination is generally quite usefull... - ...but less usefull when there's a huge mountain inbetween. - You can only use it as just GPS for more around 6 hours. - A nokia BL-5C makes a fine spare battery. - A toothpick is perfectly useable as a styles, cheaper to replace as well. - An cheapo usb car charger will happily charge at 1 amp. - You can drag it up and down a few mountains without problems. - You will break it during a 'save' trip to a nice old village... AVee ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen
On Monday 18 August 2008 14:23, John Koenig wrote: It seems possible to get it replaced and it is pretty reasonable in terms of price as well (57 USD + 20 USD for shipping) . I have been in communication with this Chinese reseller: http://www.qinyielectronics.com I am going to be completing the transaction with them today. If you want to hold off purchasing until after I receive mine; I will be sure to post up the aftermath. At least that way if they are fraudulent only one of us will be out the cash ;). That's sounds far better then buying a whole new freerunner. I'll wait and see what happens to your order first... AVee -- Program testing can be a very effective way to show the presence of bugs, but is hopelessly inadequate for showing their absence. -- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: agps-online binary
On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:25 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 10:12 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: Wonka made a python script agps-alm.py for it, but i lost the url. He's on IRC (irc.freenode.net #openmoko) Okay, I like python! I'll see if I can locate it. Thanks for the hint. digger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community think this is the one (see attachment) Yorick, I've been working on learning Python. After your last email I was inspired to try writing my own agps_online.py I got to try playing with sockets and learned something new. So it was interesting to compare what I wrote with agps-alm.py that you had attached. I'm happy to say that my implementation wasn't that bad but agps-alm.py does seem more elegant. I'll have to actually try them tomorrow. Thanks for locating and sending the script, digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Purchasing Neo Freerunner in the UK
2008/8/18 yangm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to buy a openmoko. how to connect you ? and price? I'm living Cambridge for a business travel, and I will go back China at Sep 5th. Get them from here https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko for £272 How can I pay ? cash or credit card of Bank Of China. Not sure, contact truebox here https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=ContactUs and ask them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS under FSO [Was: Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?]
On 15/08/08 15:20:53, Benito Torres wrote: On the cpu-hogging: playing mp3s takes constantly ~30% (with and without pulseaudio). But mplayer also uses 25%, while in OM2007.2 it was around 10%. So maybe this is not a mediaplayer-issue but one of the sound-subsystem? In FSO just go into the terminal and do modprobe snd-pcm-oss and MPlayer will use less cpu. Michael. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 13:55 (+0200), Benito wrote: I think I'll try that 3-ring-adapter sold by handynow.de (link 4) and post my experience to this thread later. Short update, in case somebody is waiting: The adaptors arrived but they have only 2 rings and don't fit well to the freerunner (stereo-sound only with fiddling). I've asked for replacement and am waiting for an answer now. At the moment ordering this adaptor isn't recommendable. Bye, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On Monday 18 August 2008 00:49:52 Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk Yeah what an eyeroller :p I've said this before, but I think openmoko should not have shipped this version of the phone with any software. The big problem people have with this (and with Linux on the PC) is that they're used to having no choice. They're used to being told exactly what on-screen keyboard they have to use, and what interface they have to bring up their software, and when they're allowed to cough or scratch their butts. When they see the nasty matchbox keyboard, they balk and say 'This is what they've given us? That makes this $400 investment totally useless!! Might as well pitch it out now! Might as well use it as a paperweight!' or whatever their complaint is, they assume it means the device is flawed. I've encountered the same ignorance when trying to explain Linux on the desktop as well. People will complain and say 'They make you type in commands? How primitive!' when they see me using the console. Or they'll say 'Why don't they just use a taskbar? Linux sucks.' when using Gnome, and the idea of installing KDE instead is totally alien to them. I don't think we can call them 'stupid', just misinformed, really. It's a cultural thing that's going to require a lot of education. Although, it does smack of nitpicking sometimes. Another fundimental problem is that people don't realize getting an unlocked iPhone costs twice as much as an openmoko phone. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Hey He did bother to make a video. It doesn't seem like he's using the time to just rip on OM, but he is bringing up specific issues. The screen really is too small to finger-tap a keyboard so it's unfortunate he's fixating on that particular issue (well maybe a redesigned keyboard would work in landscape mode...) My thought as I watched it was which OS should he really be trying out? Brad On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Am Montag 18 August 2008 15:54:24 schrieb Daniel Benoy: On Monday 18 August 2008 00:49:52 Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk Yeah what an eyeroller :p I've said this before, but I think openmoko should not have shipped this version of the phone with any software. The big problem people have with this (and with Linux on the PC) is that they're used to having no choice. They're used to being told exactly what on-screen keyboard they have to use, and what interface they have to bring up their software, and when they're allowed to cough or scratch their butts. When they see the nasty matchbox keyboard, they balk and say 'This is what they've given us? That makes this $400 investment totally useless!! Might as well pitch it out now! Might as well use it as a paperweight!' or whatever their complaint is, they assume it means the device is flawed. I've encountered the same ignorance when trying to explain Linux on the desktop as well. People will complain and say 'They make you type in commands? How primitive!' when they see me using the console. Or they'll say 'Why don't they just use a taskbar? Linux sucks.' when using Gnome, and the idea of installing KDE instead is totally alien to them. I don't think we can call them 'stupid', just misinformed, really. It's a cultural thing that's going to require a lot of education. Although, it does smack of nitpicking sometimes. Another fundimental problem is that people don't realize getting an unlocked iPhone costs twice as much as an openmoko phone. Although this guy is partly simply correct - you made the point. Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian and numptyphysics
Hi, I got numptyphysics working on debian. No cross-compiling needed, just copy sources to Freerunner and 'make' (apt-get install build-essential and some dev libs) There are just couple of modification. Main point is that images must be resized for freerunner. I used data of Michael Kluges ipk-package. [1] Sources+data+binary http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/index.html (not .deb yet) [1] http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/30/2747634 -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk Not as much stupid as not grasping where/what OpenMoko is. Now the comments. They were pretty much written by idiots :). Kalle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:29 -0700 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the info on the wiki is mostly misleading when it comes to the keyboard and what to do or how it works. beware. i need to write up a full list of all the things illume can do, does and what you are currently limited in (and what you can hack around with but you'll be entering world of hurt area etc.). Terminal.kbd is what i renamed it too. as its really intended for use with terminals. default is the default kbd - more for the default use of the phone... plain english (sms, email etc.). Indeed, I too found out that the keyboard in default 2008.8 is only plain english, but I'm Dutch, and most of my texts would be in Dutch as well. So that makes that keyboard less than functional for me. BTW, as a test, I tried to type Laporte with the keyboard, since I heard from Leo Laporte that on the Iphone his name was very hard to type. And it seems that it's just impossible to type it on the Openmoko 2008.8 stock keyboard. I'm also going to test how to work with the keyboard when in a terminal mode, since I'm yet to be able to hit enter after entering a command. (typing the command works, but then pressing enter to execute it has yet to function for me) I could be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure. === Marcel de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p730880.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and numptyphysics
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I got numptyphysics working on debian. Sources+data+binary http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/index.html (not .deb yet) Looks pretty good in the picture. Would you make a video of Numptyphysics in action? I haven't gotten my Freerunner yet and I'd like to at least watch a video of the things I can't play with yet. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
My thought as I watched it was which OS should he really be trying out? Thats really the million-dollar question. If only there were a site that was dedicated to trying all the possible distributions (what are there now, 7 or 8 different things to run on a Freerunner) and make solid conclusions so that we could decide without having to go through hoops ourselves .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen
John Koenig wrote: Otherwise, it is possible to remove the screen and it required nothing more than the guitar pick that I used to open the case. The only tricky part was the connection to the main board. There is a small black locking mechanism that flips up and allows for the LCD panel to be disconnected from the main board. Also, one must be very careful when removing the ribbon which connects the LCD panel. When I removed my LCD, that ribbon got a tear in it. Good luck with the replacement John. cheers, Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On Mon 18 August 2008 om 16:27:48 GMT Kalle Happonen told us: Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk Not as much stupid as not grasping where/what OpenMoko is. Now the comments. They were pretty much written by idiots :). http://xkcd.com/202/ -- Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. -- Frank Zappa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Daniel Benoy wrote: On Monday 18 August 2008 00:49:52 Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk Yeah what an eyeroller :p The guy is notorious. http://www.lickmyback.com/the-openmoko-freerunner-first-impressions/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and numptyphysics
Video added. (via youtube) And I almost forget that keyboard works like a charm. (that default matchbox-keyboard) -Aapo Rantalainen Sources+data+binary http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/index.html (not .deb yet) Looks pretty good in the picture. Would you make a video of Numptyphysics in action? I haven't gotten my Freerunner yet and I'd like to at least watch a video of the things I can't play with yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?
I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now. For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì Any one have any ideas what might cause this, or what I can do to fix it? Warren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tiny stylus in lanyard hole (warning: half-assed)
someone with skills could design a small version of this to go on the back of the case. mounting the stylus vertically http://www.rodmounts.com/ Jeffrey Malone wrote: I'm waiting for someone to do a nice mod to fit a stylus inside the case. There is space for one methinks: http://ext.tehinterweb.com/freerunner/pics/dsc_5020.jpg Look at the big long chunk of free space next to the AUX button. Additionally, you could probably put your paperclip through the left speaker hole, and it could sit in the space where the audio reverberates, under that white plastic... On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/17 nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I love it. Very MacGuyver ;) I wonder if you could squeeze a rubber-band and a paperclip in there as well :D -Nick Well, there is already a part of a paper clip in there, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to fit in a rubber band, or at least part of one. ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and numptyphysics
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Video added. (via youtube) And I almost forget that keyboard works like a charm. (that default matchbox-keyboard) -Aapo Rantalainen Much thanks. Very, very cool. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
The problem of this is: you would have to review them every 1 or 2 weeks because they change so rapidly. so? that'd provide a very lively view of the scene indeed, and i think thats needed. i can't personally set up and run the site myself, or i'd just as well do it, but i most certainly would participate in a weblog'y all- openmoko-news-and-reviews-all-the-time sort of scene with weekly news and updates. what is hot, what works, what is frustrating, what is b0rked, what is fresh, etc. frankly, what development is happening now is not being blagged enough about.. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
The guy is notorious. http://www.lickmyback.com/the-openmoko-freerunner-first-impressions/ Just remember to take it for what it is - an open-source development platform and project designed to put mobile technology back in the hands of the people who use it, not a consumer-ready fashion statement meant for every day use. What an incredibly short-sited fellow, eh? Doesn't he know that the real hackers are currently banking ca$h selling micro-SD pre-config'ed packages, 10 and 20 at a time, to people who are most definitely, in fashion. oh wait, thats just the edge of it. never mind. pay no attention. there is no train, and thus no wreck. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On 18 Aug 2008, at 05:49, Flyin_bbb8 wrote: hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk I wrote a really long rebuttal to this video on Reddit, when it first appeared a month ago. The guy who made the video replied, so he is aware of the criticism of his review. You can read his response at http://preview.tinyurl.com/6lqkjq Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
If you're referring to lin2log in the YouTube comments, then I don't think that's the guy who made the video. The video itself shows the name Dave Freyam when it opens, and he posted the video elsewhere about a week before that link was uploaded to YouTube. I don't think Freyam's done a fair review of the Freerunner, but I do credit him with more intelligence than that displayed by lin2log. The comments that I attribute to Freyam seem to mostly have been posted using a nick / username of KirrinDave, and they're at least grammatically correct. From my interaction with Freyam, he seems mostly to be responding to the FSF article which disses the iPhone and offers Openmoko / the Freerunner as a potential alternative. I might speculate that one of Freyam's buddies or office-mate's bought a Freerunner on the basis of this, and he feels short-changed because he wasn't aware of the Freerunner's development status at the time of purchase. To be completely fair to him if you go tot he Openmoko.com online store [1] [2] there's no indication that the Freerunner is anything less than a completed (and fully-polished) product. Stroller. [1] http://www.openmoko.com/product.html [2] http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner On 18 Aug 2008, at 16:19, James Thomas Snell wrote: In the past I wasted far too much time going back and forth with that dude on the YouTube comment system. The thing is - if you read the comments, he's really really trying to provoke people. My initial comment to him was that I actually agreed with a number of the points he made, but felt that his evaluation was flawed in that it failed to asses what the OpenMoko Neo is all about - providing a dev platform. Anyway - his replies were extremely irrational and highly entertaining. I think we can take some good useability pointers away, but keep in mind this dude is out to envoke a response from people so that he can freak out at whatever comments they leave and try to make himself look like a genious. ... hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NEO1973/GTA01 GSM End User-upgradable firmware
I'm an owner of a Neo1973 / GTA01. On the wiki, it mentions: 12/09/2007 - We've been informed that everything legal has been agreed upon by all parties regarding the process that would allow you to upgrade your own GSM firmware. All that remains is to get everything signed. Apparently the process of getting things signed takes a few weeks! That was 8 months ago. What is the status of a solution to allow us end-users to upgrade the firmware? On a side note, I don't suppose a program for us Neo1973 owners to swap our phone for a discount on a Neo Freerunner has been considered (especially if the only way to get the GSM firmware update is to mail it for service)? I live in North America, and the Neo1973 is geared toward European frequencies; the power consuption on the Neo1973 makes it virtually unusable as a phone, and now most of the development effort is being directed toward the Freerunner and I'm afraid us Neo1973 owners will be left in the dark with an almost unusable phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WxPython and OpenMoko
Hi all, simple dirty question: does OpenMoko support WxPython? Or developers *must* use only PyGtk? If don't, will be any possibility to have WxPython supported in future on OM? -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.altervista.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wxWidgets libraries ?
Hi, I found wxgtk libraries that could be installed on the FreeRunner. Are there also some aoolications based on or include in that library ? Yust to see it running :-) Thanks Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WxPython and OpenMoko
On Monday 18 August 2008 19:51:51 Francesco de Virgilio wrote: Hi all, simple dirty question: does OpenMoko support WxPython? Or developers *must* use only PyGtk? If don't, will be any possibility to have WxPython supported in future on OM? One is free to submit a wxPython recipe to OE, I'm glad to include the result in our present and future feeds. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WxPython and OpenMoko
2008/8/18 Francesco de Virgilio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, simple dirty question: does OpenMoko support WxPython? Or developers *must* use only PyGtk? If don't, will be any possibility to have WxPython supported in future on OM? Python has Qt bindings as well, if you use Qtopia. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Brad Midgley wrote: Hey He did bother to make a video. It doesn't seem like he's using the time to just rip on OM, but he is bringing up specific issues. The screen really is too small to finger-tap a keyboard so it's unfortunate he's fixating on that particular issue (well maybe a redesigned keyboard would work in landscape mode...) I happen to think that Qtopia's predictive keyboard does really well for using with a finger. The screen is not too small. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On Monday 18 August 2008 16:01:17 Lorn Potter wrote: Brad Midgley wrote: Hey He did bother to make a video. It doesn't seem like he's using the time to just rip on OM, but he is bringing up specific issues. The screen really is too small to finger-tap a keyboard so it's unfortunate he's fixating on that particular issue (well maybe a redesigned keyboard would work in landscape mode...) I happen to think that Qtopia's predictive keyboard does really well for using with a finger. The screen is not too small. I agree. I think the issue is that people don't realize it's a finger keyboard. I showed it to my friends at work and they said That's really small! and they laughed, having just bragged about their iphone.. and then I typed in their names in about 1 second each and it dawned on them that it's small on purpose. It's also not immediately evident that you can hold a letter and type words that aren't in the dictionary. Perhaps this calls for little tooltips for new users. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS logger / field data collection
One of the main reasons I got my Freerunner was to play with its GPS features. I want to be able to use it as a replacement for closed-source applications like TDS Solo Field and ESRI ArcPad. Especially I want something that would facilitate my volunteer citizen scientist work At the rate I am going I will probably never have more than 15 minutes a day to work towards this. In spite of this I decided to spell out what I have been thinking about in a wiki page because it would take too much space here and I think the interest might not be high enough to clutter up this very busy list with yet another very involved topic. I have a GPS in my pocket most of the time. I use a Garmin on my bicycles and on hikes. I have used various TDS and Trimble and ESRI products. Being a software developer I want something that I can tweak and tune and none of these commercial products even comes close to what I have in mind. Therefore I started this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Data_Logger to talk about it and the intro there says this: -- This page was created to address the use cases mentioned in GTA02 GPS, including * I want to log GPS data for later analysis. * I want to collect GPS data for scientific field work (forestry, biology, etc) The page was started on 17 August 2008 mostly as a thought exercise. Please jump in and add to it. Cheers, Brian Wilson Corvallis Oregon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
To be completely fair to him if you go tot he Openmoko.com online store [1] [2] there's no indication that the Freerunner is anything less than a completed (and fully-polished) product. Stroller. [1] http://www.openmoko.com/product.html [2] http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner can someone fix this issue on the openmoko.com , there should be a warning thing there about the software, Sean, Steve, Brenda, Michael? anyone? the website needs an update really.. and this also ? -- The next batch of shipments are scheduled to arrive on July 25th. , at least that part to be removed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wxWidgets libraries ?
Am 18.08.2008 um 22:05 schrieb Holger Freyther: On Monday 18 August 2008 21:11:02 Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I found wxgtk libraries that could be installed on the FreeRunner. Are there also some aoolications based on or include in that library ? No, no app is using that library. But everything to build (headers + wxconfig) your app is present. Thanks, as of I am try to setup a development machine for openmoko, I will try that. My own project is wxWidgets based, but also plain C++ parts without wxWidgets :-) So it would be great, if I could add an embedded platform to my platform list. Lothar z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?
On Monday 18 August 2008 18:07:57 Warren Baird wrote: I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now. For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì Please see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728, provide the output of logread (if these SMS are not private... or send special SMS), and make sure you do not run gsmd and qpe... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
compiling lincity
Hey guys! i want to compile the game lincity for the freerunner and everything worked fine, but it doesn't works. it wants to cd in the sources-dir pon my desktop (which is of course not available on my freerunner). so if anyone wants to help i would be happy if you drop me a line. bye, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Hi Brian, I like this idea, I just added gpsd to my Qtopia build, and added some simple code to my Qtopia based sunset calculator I wrote eons ago for my Zaurus, the GPS part simply gets current lat and long to calculate sunset/sunrise at your current location. Previously I had a city selector for that. I also wanted a pedometer, and I like the idea of a data logger, because I can post process the data with numerous things. I was kind of surprised that gpsd didn't give me a simple way to just get the current location, I had to capture 5 sentences to do that simple thing, but what I really wanted was to simply get the last known lat and long I was at. With the data logger I can presumably do that by getting the last entry of the log. I think the first thing to answer is the log format, any progress on defining that? I'll work on code to extract the log info for a simple pedometer, also if you can define the log format I may be able to write an initial logger. I think the logger needs to be platform independent as I will be writing all my code for Qtopia, but obviously we have 3 of 4 platforms to deal with, and only the graphical part will be different. (GTK/X vs QT/FB). I also write in Ruby whenever possible, so we probably need a library that can read the log format from c/c++/python/ruby etc. (XML would be able to do that but I agree probably too verbose, how about tokenized XML?) BTW my pedometer should be able to tell me the average , max min speed I walked, and the total time and distance pretty simple stuff. Brian Wilson wrote: One of the main reasons I got my Freerunner was to play with its GPS features. I want to be able to use it as a replacement for closed-source applications like TDS Solo Field and ESRI ArcPad. Especially I want something that would facilitate my volunteer citizen scientist work At the rate I am going I will probably never have more than 15 minutes a day to work towards this. In spite of this I decided to spell out what I have been thinking about in a wiki page because it would take too much space here and I think the interest might not be high enough to clutter up this very busy list with yet another very involved topic. I have a GPS in my pocket most of the time. I use a Garmin on my bicycles and on hikes. I have used various TDS and Trimble and ESRI products. Being a software developer I want something that I can tweak and tune and none of these commercial products even comes close to what I have in mind. Therefore I started this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Data_Logger to talk about it and the intro there says this: -- This page was created to address the use cases mentioned in GTA02 GPS, including * I want to log GPS data for later analysis. * I want to collect GPS data for scientific field work (forestry, biology, etc) The page was started on 17 August 2008 mostly as a thought exercise. Please jump in and add to it. Cheers, Brian Wilson Corvallis Oregon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wxWidgets libraries ?
Am 18.08.2008 um 22:19 schrieb M. Peterson: Hello Lothar and all http://retromessenger.sf.net is developed for OpenMoko with wxwidget library. The design is ready and the .a files are too. The gui is downloadable in the download section for linux and windows. So you can test. Would you like to join the project as a developer or anyone? Propably for testing, but first I need to setup a development host, that I just do. All other things - we will see :-) Regards Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Essay about Openmoko
Hello, I want to prepare an essay about Mobile Linux with Openmoko, Neo1973 and FR for our LUG. I want to take focus about history, philosophy and the state of the developing (current technic, future). For the history and the philosophy of OM I need some nice links where I can grap some informations. Who has some? Let me participate. Thanx. -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?
Holger Freyther wrote: On Monday 18 August 2008 18:07:57 Warren Baird wrote: I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now. For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì Please see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728, provide the output of logread (if these SMS are not private... or send special SMS), and make sure you do not run gsmd and qpe... I have seen this as well, I will get Rhys to look at it. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best mixer settings? - call echo
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267 hope that helps. Tim Abell Thorben Krueger wrote: Hi, The complexity of alsamixer overwhelms me. Well not really, but I can't seem to make any difference in the crappy audio quality during calls. Would anyone who has figured out how to get rid of the echo during calls (or improved audio quality in general) please post their *.state files somewhere? Thorben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia Wlan gui
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:55, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le samedi 16 août 2008 à 17:06 +0200, Cédric Berger a écrit : I think it is in : /home/root/Settings/Network/wireless/eth0 In what field to you type your key ? I tried typing a bogus key from the gui and it didn't show anywhere in this file, but appeared in /home/root/Applications/Network/config/wlan0.conf looks like /home/root/Settings/Network/wireless/eth0 is updated when trying to connect. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
well, we just revamped the whole site so we will find a way to add descriptions of the various software stacks. 1. shipping stack 2007. basic functionality. telephony, SMS, contacts. 2. Download stack: qtopia, a more polished end user experience, but it still has some bugs and doesnt fully expose all the hardware features 3. Download stack OM 2008. it's pre beta, but represents our way forward and will expose all the new hardware. 4. FSO. the new framework. It has some sample apps, like telephony. 5. Debian. I havent even looked at this yet. Freedom is a bit messy As for new product in our store. Our distrubtors continue to take everything we can build. So, check with them first. Its the same product with the same or better pricing.Our goal is not to be in the retail side of selling product but to empower our distributors. Otherwise I have to spend a large amount of money building up a sales and marketing staff. I would rather spend our money on engineering. I would rather let those folks who already run distribution centers use their expertise. So please check out the distributors. They provide the same product at comparable prices. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: To be completely fair to him if you go tot he Openmoko.com online store [1] [2] there's no indication that the Freerunner is anything less than a completed (and fully-polished) product. Stroller. [1] http://www.openmoko.com/product.html [2] http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner can someone fix this issue on the openmoko.com , there should be a warning thing there about the software, Sean, Steve, Brenda, Michael? anyone? the website needs an update really.. and this also ? -- The next batch of shipments are scheduled to arrive on July 25th. , at least that part to be removed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wxWidgets libraries ?
On Monday 18 August 2008 22:26:35 Lothar Behrens wrote: Am 18.08.2008 um 22:05 schrieb Holger Freyther: On Monday 18 August 2008 21:11:02 Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I found wxgtk libraries that could be installed on the FreeRunner. Are there also some aoolications based on or include in that library ? No, no app is using that library. But everything to build (headers + wxconfig) your app is present. Thanks, as of I am try to setup a development machine for openmoko, I will try that. My own project is wxWidgets based, but also plain C++ parts without wxWidgets :-) So it would be great, if I could add an embedded platform to my platform list. Cool, I just looked at the packages. The main package will install wxconfig and the -dev package should contain all headers. I assume our toolchain contains g++. The task of the distro team is to enable people to write and port software so feedback of what was easy, hard, impossible is welcome. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On Monday 18 August 2008 22:09:44 Daniel Benoy wrote: I agree. I think the issue is that people don't realize it's a finger keyboard. I showed it to my friends at work and they said That's really small! and they laughed, having just bragged about their iphone.. and then I typed in their names in about 1 second each and it dawned on them that it's small on purpose. It's also not immediately evident that you can hold a letter and type words that aren't in the dictionary. Perhaps this calls for little tooltips for new users. Yes, that is the only downside of this keyboard. The gestures and features are not easy to discover. But besides that I can write SMS and names during a ride with the public transportation (bus) easily. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tiny stylus in lanyard hole (warning: half-assed)
haha. I had the the same idea, except the stylus would be a bit longer and be L shaped with the short end of the L stuck in the foam and the long part of the L rested againt the back of the phone. If you get my drift. Nathan Kinkade wrote: I questioned whether to post this here, as it's somewhat embarrassing. I had an idea about how to store a tiny stylus in the lanyard hole at the bottom of the Neo. The basic idea was to take some of the foam from the Neo packaging, cut it to size and then stuff it snugly into the hole. The idea was then to burn a hole through the middle of the foam where possibly a tiny stylus-like device could be inserted and would hold fast. Here is the first iteration: http://natha.nkinka.de/stylus_lol/ Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsm no longer registers on 2008.8
Hiya I haven't been able to make calls for a day or so under asu, I'm getting not registered when I try and dial 121 (vodafone voicemail) from the dialer app. It worked for a while after I installed 2008.8, I'm not sure what I've done to it. What to do? I could always reflash if I've done something wrong, but it'd be nice to at least figure out what went wrong first, or am I wasting my time? The sim is still working in my sony ericsson. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for new product in our store. Our distrubtors continue to take everything we can build. So, check with them first. Its the same product with the same or better pricing.Our goal is not to be in the retail side of selling product but to empower our distributors. Otherwise I have to spend a large amount of money building up a sales and marketing staff. I would rather spend our money on engineering. I would rather let those folks who already run distribution centers use their expertise. So please check out the distributors. They provide the same product at comparable prices. There's no distributor for Brazil. I became part of a group in the USA - I have contacts there - but there hasn't been a 900mhz phone sold via the online store yet. My group was assured you could mix 900mhz / 850mhz phones, bought a 850mhz phone that I can't use, and is waiting to exchange it. I've been reading this list forever without a phone to use. I understand your strategy may make general sense, but there be casualties. Just ranting. Any rough idea of when 900mhz phones will be available via the online store? - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Try to install MokoMake on openSuSE 11 fails
Hi, I have followed the instructions to install my OpenMoko development machine. The difference is that I am using openSuSE 11 instead of 10.3. One package was not installable via Yast (help2man) = Downloaded orginal source tgz and built it. Ok Installing BitBake was also not possible via Yast. Downloaded the package from BerlinOS. Here are the problems: setup.py was able to build, but not to install the package. There is a directory /usr/lib/python2.5/config and thus inside this file: Makefile Any ideas ? Thanks, Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm no longer registers on 2008.8
This is a known issue for 2008.8: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/2008.8#Known_Issues Tim On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:51 PM, tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya I haven't been able to make calls for a day or so under asu, I'm getting not registered when I try and dial 121 (vodafone voicemail) from the dialer app. It worked for a while after I installed 2008.8, I'm not sure what I've done to it. What to do? I could always reflash if I've done something wrong, but it'd be nice to at least figure out what went wrong first, or am I wasting my time? The sim is still working in my sony ericsson. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Jim, Brian, In my toyings with TangoGPS, I know it can produce logs, I don't know the format at all, it may just be the raw GPS output or not. I do know it does all the pedometer functions you were asking about (maybe not min speed, but definitely max and avg.). Perhaps you should look into that project. --Bert Jim Morris wrote: Hi Brian, I like this idea, I just added gpsd to my Qtopia build, and added some simple code to my Qtopia based sunset calculator I wrote eons ago for my Zaurus, the GPS part simply gets current lat and long to calculate sunset/sunrise at your current location. Previously I had a city selector for that. I also wanted a pedometer, and I like the idea of a data logger, because I can post process the data with numerous things. I was kind of surprised that gpsd didn't give me a simple way to just get the current location, I had to capture 5 sentences to do that simple thing, but what I really wanted was to simply get the last known lat and long I was at. With the data logger I can presumably do that by getting the last entry of the log. I think the first thing to answer is the log format, any progress on defining that? I'll work on code to extract the log info for a simple pedometer, also if you can define the log format I may be able to write an initial logger. I think the logger needs to be platform independent as I will be writing all my code for Qtopia, but obviously we have 3 of 4 platforms to deal with, and only the graphical part will be different. (GTK/X vs QT/FB). I also write in Ruby whenever possible, so we probably need a library that can read the log format from c/c++/python/ruby etc. (XML would be able to do that but I agree probably too verbose, how about tokenized XML?) BTW my pedometer should be able to tell me the average , max min speed I walked, and the total time and distance pretty simple stuff. Brian Wilson wrote: One of the main reasons I got my Freerunner was to play with its GPS features. I want to be able to use it as a replacement for closed-source applications like TDS Solo Field and ESRI ArcPad. Especially I want something that would facilitate my volunteer citizen scientist work At the rate I am going I will probably never have more than 15 minutes a day to work towards this. In spite of this I decided to spell out what I have been thinking about in a wiki page because it would take too much space here and I think the interest might not be high enough to clutter up this very busy list with yet another very involved topic. I have a GPS in my pocket most of the time. I use a Garmin on my bicycles and on hikes. I have used various TDS and Trimble and ESRI products. Being a software developer I want something that I can tweak and tune and none of these commercial products even comes close to what I have in mind. Therefore I started this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Data_Logger to talk about it and the intro there says this: -- This page was created to address the use cases mentioned in GTA02 GPS, including * I want to log GPS data for later analysis. * I want to collect GPS data for scientific field work (forestry, biology, etc) The page was started on 17 August 2008 mostly as a thought exercise. Please jump in and add to it. Cheers, Brian Wilson Corvallis Oregon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
