Re: wts Freerunner
I'm in Western Canada (Vancouver) and have a brand new 850 model. I only flashed a couple of distributions onto it. Preferably, I'd sell it to someone in Western Canada/United States and someone who can contribute to the project. Cheers! Justin On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Wong wrote: Hello, It looks like I won't have enough time and I want this device in good hands for development. Send me an email if you want to purchase a brand new Freerunner off me. Probably a good idea to give a description of what kind of condition it's in, plus specify its location (for working out likely postage) and whether it's an 850 or 900 model. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:56:35 -0400 Chris Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/22 Lothar Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You must have a lock, since otherwise you may accidantly issue an emergency call. Lothar With my current phone, you can make emergency calls on it, even if the phone is locked. It happened to me once. I got a call a few minutes later from the call center asking if everything was okay. I'd rather not repeat that. Locks that do not allow emergency calls are good. Especially considering that you need to take various other steps to place an emergency call with the Freerunner (go to an application menu, choose an icon, dial). Everybody has their preferences. I'd really like to see a second small bootable image for just emergency calls so there would be no wait. There's no point in forcing that kind of thing down others' throat but that could be an optional image. If the lock is easy, I have no problem taking it off and dialing 112 in a hurry. I'm more worried about having to wait for my small linux computer to fully boot up while someone is bleeding to death in my arms. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian - alsa sound ?
I have Debain+FSO+Updates installed and do have sound. aplay made an awful racket, but mplayer worked fine. Sound comes out the FR and one headphone. not sure why both headphone don't work. I didn't do any configuring to get sound working, if you want any of my config file, ask. ~ Matt Fox Mulder wrote: I got the same problem as you with no sound but the modules are loaded and the soundcard is listed. The test with mpg123 gives also the same result. :( The command alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/stereoout.state restore didn't help at all. Did you find a solution for the problem that the neo doesn't output any sound? Maybe i'm missing some essential sound module or what ever. It makes me sad that i can't hear anything from my lovely neo. :) Ciao, Rainer Rorschach wrote: Same problem here, also on irc someone told he had it. If I play and don't abort I get an error-message after some time: # mpg123 ff7-ringtone.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3 version 1.4.3; written and copyright by Michael Hipp and others free software (LGPL/GPL) without any warranty but with best wishes Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: ff7-ringtone.mp3 ... Title: Fanfare Artist: Nobuo Uematsu Album: Final Fantasy VII OSV CD1 Genre: Soundtrack MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 48000 Hz stereo [audio.c:532] error: Error in writing audio (Input/output error?)! [mpg123.c:557] error: Deep trouble! Cannot flush to my output anymore! Some further information: debian-gta02:~# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [neo1973gta02 ]: WM8753 - neo1973-gta02 neo1973-gta02 (WM8753) debian-gta02:~# aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 0: WM8753 HiFi WM8753 HiFi-I2S-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 1: Voice WM8753 Voice-PCM-1 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 debian-gta02:~# lsmod|grep snd snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 8200 0 snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s 4120 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_s3c24xx 4736 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_wm8753 29376 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_core 27488 3 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_wm8753 snd_pcm73733 2 snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_core snd_timer 20388 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 6376 1 snd_pcm snd46740 5 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_wm8753,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm,snd_timer debian-gta02:~# asoundconf list Names of available sound cards: neo1973gta02 debian-gta02:/# cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_soc_wm8753 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Headphones, Adapters
Hi all, I tried to use headphones with my FR but I only get sound in one ear. I've tried a phone set with a mic and a normal set with a 3.5 - 2.5 adapter. If I move the plug I can get sound to one or other ear, so I guess it's not a software issue. Do I need to buy a special adapter ? Thanks ~ Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Krells!
If you're like me, you're a big fan of gkrellm, and you always have it running so you can keep an eye on what your system is doing. I wanted to have a remote display of my FR CPU usage on my host, for the same reason - to be able to see at a glance what's going on. Looking at gkrellm's man page, I discovered that it can monitor a remote host which is running gkrellmd - the gkrellm daemon. So I downloaded the source and tried to compile the daemon for the freerunner using the toolchain (I haven't got the mokomakefile set up yet). I wasn't able to build an ipkg, but I was able to run the resulting binary on the freerunner, then connect to it from my host, achieving just what I wanted. screenshot: http://users.on.net/~antisol/krells.jpg (the krell on the left is the freerunner, the other one is my host) the gkrellmd binary: http://users.on.net/~antisol/gkrellmd.tar.gz to use it, just untar the binary, scp it to your freerunner, run gkrellmd -d on your freerunner, then run gkrellm -s freerunner ip on your host. it takes a while (~10 seconds) to connect, so be patient. Hopefully somebody else will find this usefull! :) adds this to list of things you can't do with any other phone Cheers, -Dale ---More detail on what I did, and the output of compiling--- (download and untar gkrellm source) [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming]$ cd gkrellm-2.3.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gkrellm-2.3.1]$ om-conf server Source directory: /data/incoming/gkrellm-2.3.1/server Extra configure arguments: NOTE: Running /data/incoming/gkrellm-2.3.1/server/configure --build=i686-linux --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi --target=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi --prefix=/usr --exec_prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --datadir=/usr/share--sysconfdir=/etc --sharedstatedir=/usr/com --localstatedir=/var--libdir=/usr/lib --includedir=/usr/include--oldincludedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/share/info--mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-mainainer-mode ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] gkrellm-2.3.1]$ cd server [EMAIL PROTECTED] server]$ make ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o main.o main.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o monitor.o monitor.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o mail.o mail.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o plugins.o plugins.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o glib.o glib.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o utils.o utils.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gthread-2.0` -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -c -o sysdeps-unix.o sysdeps-unix.c ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -Wall -O2 -I.. `pkg-config --cflags
Re: Headphones, Adapters
Matt wrote: Hi all, I tried to use headphones with my FR but I only get sound in one ear. I've tried a phone set with a mic and a normal set with a 3.5 - 2.5 adapter. If I move the plug I can get sound to one or other ear, so I guess it's not a software issue. Do I need to buy a special adapter ? Thanks ~ Matt ___ this seems to be mentioned at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Adjusting_the_Volume HTH, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Headphones, Adapters
Matt wrote: I tried to use headphones with my FR but I only get sound in one ear. I've tried a phone set with a mic and a normal set with a 3.5 - 2.5 adapter. If I move the plug I can get sound to one or other ear, so I guess it's not a software issue. Do I need to buy a special adapter ? You need a special adapter, as mentioned on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Buttons_and_connectors |The phone jack is a 2.5mm connector with four contacts: stereo + |MIC. It is compatible with the headsets used by Motorola smartphones |(A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360. | |To plug regular (i.e. without microphone) headphones commonly used |to listen to music, a compatible 2.5mm 4 rings jack to 3.5mm stereo |jack adapter is needed. It has been reported that Nokia's 2.5mm - |3.5mm adapters do not work, but that a 3.5mm Stereo Audio Adapter |for Motorola MPx200/E398 works well. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several questions about ASU
Le vendredi 22 août 2008 à 18:05 -0400, Warren Baird a écrit : Only one problem: after I reflashed the image a bit, I played around with raster's new keyboard - and it *rocks*. Unfortunately after the opkg upgrade and installing the new packages, I was back to the default OM2008.8 keyboard. Check that it's not there back again after a reboot. I noticed that sometimes you get the old one (called by an application I suppose) but raster's is still there and comes back... I don't know how to disable completely the other one though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same problem with the image http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/, but after adding the testing branch of http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/http://people.openmoko.org/%7Ezecke/ i can dialout/receiving calls/ receiving system sms from provider voicemail/ receiving normal sms from friends. 1 i have installed the images from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ (20080815) 2 i deleted files in the /var/lib/opkg folder 3 create the zecke.conf file in /etc/opkg (om2008.8-testing) 4 opkg update 5 opkg upgrade and reboot 6 started the dialer, entring my pin code it's works well, now let's see the stability ;) I am using the stock om2008.8 images, and with both zecke-dev and zecke-testing repos, I'm getting errors like the following while doing opkg upgrade (after opkg update) for a lot of packages/libraries: Failed to download qtopia-phone-x11-taskmanager-app-data. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? What am I doing wrong? And why doesn't somebody test basic phone functions before publishing a 'stable' release? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody has their preferences. I'd really like to see a second small bootable image for just emergency calls so there would be no wait. There's no point in forcing that kind of thing down others' throat but that could be an optional image. If the lock is easy, I have no problem taking it off and dialing 112 in a hurry. I'm more worried about having to wait for my small linux computer to fully boot up while someone is bleeding to death in my arms. you will need a rather full blown linux image in any case. for making a call you need several hardware components (audio, gsm, display, maybe gps) up and running so you depend on the kernel drivers AND even some higher level userspace apps anyway. better to optimize the initial bootup time to a minimum. my 2 cents clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Clemens Kirchgatterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody has their preferences. I'd really like to see a second small bootable image for just emergency calls so there would be no wait. There's no point in forcing that kind of thing down others' throat but that could be an optional image. If the lock is easy, I have no problem taking it off and dialing 112 in a hurry. I'm more worried about having to wait for my small linux computer to fully boot up while someone is bleeding to death in my arms. you will need a rather full blown linux image in any case. for making a call you need several hardware components (audio, gsm, display, maybe gps) up and running so you depend on the kernel drivers AND even some higher level userspace apps anyway. better to optimize the initial bootup time to a minimum. IIRC GSM audio can be routed directly through without using the CPU. Also if you had to program an emergency number before hand, you wouldn't need the display. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several questions about ASU
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Alexander Menk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, here are the URLs for Google Maps in TangoGPS: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/12-FAQ.html Alex I have a curious problem with my FR on 2008.08: My GPS works with AGPS UI, but TangoGPS and GPSDrive can't find the GPS device. I checked /etc/default/gpsd and it read GPS_DEV=/dev/ttyS3 I changed that to read GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 as recommended by http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Use_the_GPS When I was on 2007.02, GPS worked with TangoGPS, but now I can't seem to get it done even after doing as stated above. The default Map application with the stock 2008.08 image worked when I checked it earlier, but I don't use the FR as a phone yet, so am not sure if it is still the case. Anybody has some pointers? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Lothar Behrens wrote: problem is, you're relying on people thinking clearly, being able to make good logical decisions and correctly choosing the environment to boot into on startup. unfortunately, this is the last thing most people can do in the sort of high-stress situation which typically demands an emergency call. if you study some mobiles, they are able to make emergency calls without unlocking the screen, because manufacturers realise people can't even manage that simple task when they panic, even something they may do 20 times a day [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashtop I have talked about boot options. At this time there is no locking screen. Simply there should be a button to bypass the normal boot by pressing and go into an emergency mode. This way only 8 seconds may be remaining until a emergency call would be possible. Not 2 minutes. The unlock screen may have a top left area and a top right area. Right would be normal unlock and left maybe emergency call. You must have a lock, since otherwise you may accidantly issue an emergency call. the point i was making is that when people are in stressful situations they panic; even something as simple as selecting a different option at boot-time becomes difficult. the point about the screen lock was an example to illustrate my main point. there are many more i could have chosen, but picked one related to mobile phones ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Am Samstag, den 23.08.2008, 10:42 +0200 schrieb Federico Lorenzi: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Clemens Kirchgatterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC GSM audio can be routed directly through without using the CPU. Also if you had to program an emergency number before hand, you wouldn't need the display. I think, too, it should be possible to create a mini OS only for emergency calls. The number to be called could be passed as a poot parameter, thus the boot configuration may be modified by a setup application. A mini OS: Maybe any open OS that is fast booting (freeDOS ???) Configuring in a DOS partition would also be possible from Linux I think. Is this possible ? Lothar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Configuring Today ?
Hi, I am trying to get a clock on my homepage, but following the instructions in the documentation for Today the following is the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# gconftool-2 --type bool --set /desktop/poky/interface/reduced false (gconftool-2:1648): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. Cannot continue. Error setting value: No D-BUS daemon running [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/d /etc/init.d/dbus-1 /etc/init.d/devpts.sh /etc/init.d/devices/etc/init.d/dropbear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start system message bus already started; not starting. Starting system message bus: /usr/bin/dbus-daemon is already running 1308 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I am running 2007.2 updated at 22.08.2008 Any ideas ? Thanks Lothar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.08 zecke gstreamer errors
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Using the 2008.08 testing repository from zecke, both the openmoko and qtopia media players throw gstreamer errors on my device when trying to play audio. Possibly related, the qtopia player can not read mp3 tag information (all tracks are unknown). I have not had time to look into the cause for this yet. Has anyone else experienced this and possibly fixed it? Could it be a package or configuration related issue? You know what's weird? Before applying the updates from Zecke's testing branch today, neither of the openmoko or qtopia mediaplayers were working for me. OM was either throwing up gstreamer errors or did not seem to do anything, and the qtopia one didn't play anything and didn't even quit. After the updates and installing mplayer, both are working. The QMP takes a while after starting and some cyclic pressing of - || - buttons for an mp3 file to play. You could try to reinstall the gstreamer plugins. I still wonder what has happened to openmoko-mediaplayer2's volume button. And why the FR doesn't have the most basic buttons: call pickup, call reject, and volume control. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Vibhav Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: Tim Erwin wrote: So what do you mean by 'Qtopia being silly' ??? Does it have something to do with Zecke's cautionary message (#68, 69?) in trac #1766? About ghost messages and calls appearing on the call screen when a non-standard libfcix.so was used? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comment of an iphone user
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Matthias Berse [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi All, I finally decided to post something to this list I experienced today. I have a collegue I work with who is usually the first to get new cool tech gadgets. Sure enough he got both the first iphone and now just recently the second iphone. After hesitating for some days after getting the freerunner I would show it to him today. He was stunned! He said it feels really good in the hand. Actually thats the kind of feedback most people I know told me immidiately after handing it to them. Also the rubber like finish, he thinks is much better then the finish on the iphone. Sure enough he was blown away by the detail the display shows and really really impressed by the fact that this is all result of an open source project. The boots, well he liked them since he knows... And his comment about the linux kernel messages: Ah the same with a cracked iphone (I never cared to look into iphones that deep). So I think this was really cool since I did not demo much more just boot and tangogps and illume. So let's all get our hands dirty and make the software stack rock solid to make the neo's rock and roll! Openmoko Team keep up the good work! Cheers, Matthias Yes, and let's make sure that the basic phone functions work faultlessly out of the box so that colleagues don't laugh at our backs (thinking the $450 purchase was a costly mistake from a rush of hubris). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2007.2 media player
What package do I need to install to get the 2007.2 media player to play wav files? Is there documentation anywhere about the media player? - in particular its a streaming media player - how? BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several questions about ASU
OK, after rebooting the FR, TangoGPS and GPSDrive are working, so GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 is correct. However, now TangoGPS crashes within a couple of minutes - I guess trying to fix orientation, because I was turning around trying to see if it worked, and started to freeze, and then fail. AGPS UI was able to find a fix within mere seconds, or probably no more than 1 minute! On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Alexander Menk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, here are the URLs for Google Maps in TangoGPS: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/12-FAQ.html Alex I have a curious problem with my FR on 2008.08: My GPS works with AGPS UI, but TangoGPS and GPSDrive can't find the GPS device. I checked /etc/default/gpsd and it read GPS_DEV=/dev/ttyS3 I changed that to read GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 as recommended by http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Use_the_GPS When I was on 2007.02, GPS worked with TangoGPS, but now I can't seem to get it done even after doing as stated above. The default Map application with the stock 2008.08 image worked when I checked it earlier, but I don't use the FR as a phone yet, so am not sure if it is still the case. Anybody has some pointers? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:25 (+1000), Dale Maggee wrote: Hopefully somebody else will find this usefull! :) Yipee! I do! Thanks a lot for your contribution! Cheers, /Ben, already untaring ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Am 23.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb robin paulson: I have talked about boot options. At this time there is no locking screen. Simply there should be a button to bypass the normal boot by pressing and go into an emergency mode. This way only 8 seconds may be remaining until a emergency call would be possible. Not 2 minutes. The unlock screen may have a top left area and a top right area. Right would be normal unlock and left maybe emergency call. You must have a lock, since otherwise you may accidantly issue an emergency call. the point i was making is that when people are in stressful situations they panic; even something as simple as selecting a different option at boot-time becomes difficult. the point about the screen lock was an example to illustrate my main point. there are many more i could have chosen, but picked one related to mobile phones The boot menu should in this case be ONLY an emergency button. Shown for about 3 seconds or the like, it could be pressed to bypass the normal boot sequence. If the button is not pressed the normal boot will occur. The uboot menu should not be used, because you have to press also the AUX button. This is unusual for the normal user thus they forgot about it. I have just pressed at the aux button from screen locked state. Is there a way to replace the usual 'buttons' by one 'Take Emergency call' or better an icon for it. The small dismiss button should stay at the mottom to go back into screen lock. This could then well documented. Also the power button could be used in paralell for the same issue. There is only a need to detect, that the phone was in screen lock mode. Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comment of an iphone user
BTW: remember that in europe the phone cost much less than the IPhone because 450 $ is changed 320 €, while the IPhone is sold (here in Italy) at 499€ (1$ - 1€) for the 8GB version... 2008/8/23 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Matthias Berse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I finally decided to post something to this list I experienced today. I have a collegue I work with who is usually the first to get new cool tech gadgets. Sure enough he got both the first iphone and now just recently the second iphone. After hesitating for some days after getting the freerunner I would show it to him today. He was stunned! He said it feels really good in the hand. Actually thats the kind of feedback most people I know told me immidiately after handing it to them. Also the rubber like finish, he thinks is much better then the finish on the iphone. Sure enough he was blown away by the detail the display shows and really really impressed by the fact that this is all result of an open source project. The boots, well he liked them since he knows... And his comment about the linux kernel messages: Ah the same with a cracked iphone (I never cared to look into iphones that deep). So I think this was really cool since I did not demo much more just boot and tangogps and illume. So let's all get our hands dirty and make the software stack rock solid to make the neo's rock and roll! Openmoko Team keep up the good work! Cheers, Matthias Yes, and let's make sure that the basic phone functions work faultlessly out of the box so that colleagues don't laugh at our backs (thinking the $450 purchase was a costly mistake from a rush of hubris). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comment of an iphone user
Hi, --- On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | BTW: remember that in europe the phone cost much less than the | IPhone because 450 $ is changed 320 €, while the IPhone is sold (here | in Italy) at 499€ (1$ - 1€) for the 8GB version... \-- In India, the iPhone is expensive as they announced the 8GB model for 484€, or USD 715 (INR 31,000), and 16GB model for 563€, or USD 833 (INR 36,100). SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comment of an iphone user
Yes, and let's make sure that the basic phone functions work faultlessly out of the box so that colleagues don't laugh at our backs (thinking the $450 purchase was a costly mistake from a rush of hubris). I shun thee negative. Now all can find humor at a lack of understanding and patience. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Configuring Today ?
At the bottom of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Today/2007.2; - I think this is what you are reading - just need to read further :) BillK On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 11:20 +0200, Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I am trying to get a clock on my homepage, but following the instructions in the documentation for Today the following is the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# gconftool-2 --type bool --set /desktop/poky/interface/reduced false (gconftool-2:1648): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. Cannot continue. Error setting value: No D-BUS daemon running [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/d /etc/init.d/dbus-1 /etc/init.d/devpts.sh /etc/init.d/devices/etc/init.d/dropbear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start system message bus already started; not starting. Starting system message bus: /usr/bin/dbus-daemon is already running 1308 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I am running 2007.2 updated at 22.08.2008 Any ideas ? Thanks Lothar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New openmoko packages database
Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be aviable. I'm programming the service, somebody wants to help me with some suggestions? Thanks, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Storage of Contacts
Hi! were is contacts data stored in Om 2008.8 (Qtopia). I guess it's not Evolution DB format ? Alex smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:25 (+1000), Dale Maggee wrote: http://users.on.net/~antisol/gkrellmd.tar.gz Um... There seems to be something wrong: -rwxr-xr-x 1 user group 45 23. Aug 08:53 gkrellmd -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 177 23. Aug 08:55 gkrellmd.tar.gz It's a bit short, I'd say. Also, `file` tells me: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sat Aug 23 08:53:02 2008 Any idea what's up? Best wishes, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
2008/8/23 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be aviable. I'm programming the service, somebody wants to help me with some suggestions? Thanks, Thomas Kudos for Thomas :) Right now I only can help with suggestions, just point me the site. Cheers, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
Right now I only can help with suggestions, just point me the site. Kudos for Thomas :) Right now I only can help with suggestions, just point me the site. Cheers, valerio are you from Italy? :D thanks but the site will be aviable as soon as possible, I think before 10th septempber 2008 XD ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
2008/8/23 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right now I only can help with suggestions, just point me the site. Kudos for Thomas :) Right now I only can help with suggestions, just point me the site. Cheers, valerio are you from Italy? :D Nop, Portugal . thanks but the site will be aviable as soon as possible, I think before 10th septempber 2008 XD Ok, if you need some help or suggestion in the meantime, ping me. Cheers, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FO - how do I get the hardware revision?
On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 00:07 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, I run FSO (testing) on my Neo 1973 (from shr.bearstech.com). If I want to find the hardware revision, the wiki says to use libgsmd-tool, see [1]. However, that tool doesn't exist in fso. What tool can be used in fso? References: 1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision Try mickeyterm. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mickeyterm digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Substitute batteries
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:13:00AM -0400, Charles Pax wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I have a few Nokia batteries laying around, BL-5c and BL-6c, and desktop chargers. They power the Freerunner fine, and seem to charge when they're in the FR plugged in. But the Freerunner doesn't know what to do with them apart from that, presumably since they lack the Openmoko coulomb counter circuit. The coulomb counter circuitry is in the battery? Why isn't this on the board itself? because the charging state is a property that is inherent to the battery, not your device. imagine you remove a 50% charged battery and insert a 90% charged battery. if the coulomb counter was on the mainboard, it would still think 50% after you put in the 90% battery. -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Whats the state of pypimd?
Hi, I'm wondering about pypim, I think it was part of SOC. I've been able to find very few references to it and no code. Is it still being worked on? Thanks, digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian: alternating white and splash screen [was:Debian Install.sh error when run under Qtopia]
Hi, I got thru Debian install. Installed uBoot menu as suggested on Debian wiki. After reboot I see an alternating white screen and openmoko splash screen. The FR seems to continuously reset. I was able to get into NAND/NOR boot menu with the button combinations during this behaviour. I found one reference to same problem in the archives http://markmail.org/message/45246njb35z77w7y Sadly there was no further info. here is what I saw when I did a boot from NAND boot-menu cmd 0x8 arg 0x1aa flags 0x75 error after cmd: 0xfffc (had to boot many times to see all that info, not sure about the number of 'f' s in the cmd. thought it would be a 32 bit command.) Greatly appreciate any pointers or links. Thanks, -GK On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Ganesha Krishna wrote: Hi, I tried Debian install.sh under Qtopia and hit this brick wall. (Nandfash = Qtopia 08.08 + kernel from the same package) -- ./install.sh all .. P: Configuring package apt P: Configuring helper cdebootstrap-helper-apt E: Internal error: install I got that error until I downclocked my MMC/micro SD card. Then it went away. If I had more time, I would wrap the install.sh in a loop where it tries this, and if it detects an error, downclocks the MMC clock and retries. Right now mine's running at 2.5 Mhz. -- Asheesh. -- A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian Install.sh error when run under Qtopia
Thank you every one for helping. I finally resorted to (Keeping my geek pride aside and) flashing ASU to install debian and burn Qtopia back. -GK On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Ganesha Krishna wrote: Hi, I tried Debian install.sh under Qtopia and hit this brick wall. (Nandfash = Qtopia 08.08 + kernel from the same package) -- ./install.sh all .. P: Configuring package apt P: Configuring helper cdebootstrap-helper-apt E: Internal error: install I got that error until I downclocked my MMC/micro SD card. Then it went away. If I had more time, I would wrap the install.sh in a loop where it tries this, and if it detects an error, downclocks the MMC clock and retries. Right now mine's running at 2.5 Mhz. -- Asheesh. -- A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian: alternating white and splash screen [was:Debian Install.sh error when run under Qtopia]
Hi, Am Samstag, den 23.08.2008, 20:20 +0530 schrieb Ganesha Krishna: I found one reference to same problem in the archives http://markmail.org/message/45246njb35z77w7y Sadly there was no further info. here is what I saw when I did a boot from NAND boot-menu cmd 0x8 arg 0x1aa flags 0x75 error after cmd: 0xfffc (had to boot many times to see all that info, not sure about the number of 'f' s in the cmd. thought it would be a 32 bit command.) Greatly appreciate any pointers or links. I have no real answer, but others have worked around problems by changing the glamo MMC bus speed. I didn’t find the concrete command right away, but it must be somewhere out there :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
Benito Torres wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:25 (+1000), Dale Maggee wrote: http://users.on.net/~antisol/gkrellmd.tar.gz Um... There seems to be something wrong: -rwxr-xr-x 1 user group 45 23. Aug 08:53 gkrellmd -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 177 23. Aug 08:55 gkrellmd.tar.gz It's a bit short, I'd say. Also, `file` tells me: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sat Aug 23 08:53:02 2008 Any idea what's up? yep, I'm a moron! ;) Dunno what I did or how I did it, but gkrellmd should be 115.3K once extracted. try it again, should work now... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian installed in Flash instead of uSD
On Friday 22 August 2008 11:09:28 am Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2008, 23:05 -0500 schrieb Eli: I got the Debian install to fit in flash, even with several extra things (like vim-gtk) installed, and it's currently showing 53M free. Here are (somewhat cleaned up) instructions: congrats, great work! If you write that into a proper wiki page, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/MovingToFlash might be a good location that can be linked from the list of Tipps in section „Using your Debian system“ on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/ Done. One change was that I linked to the MovingToFlash page from the end of the Installation section. Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
the point i was making is that when people are in stressful situations they panic; even something as simple as selecting a different option at boot-time becomes difficult. the point about the screen lock was an example to illustrate my main point. there are many more i could have chosen, but picked one related to mobile phones No, You can't generalize like that. I'm a paramedic, I know when things are bad enough I should make the call and I don't have second doubts about it. When the situation arises and my Freerunner is for some reason turned off, it's not the panic element that stands before me and a connection to the EMT dispatcher but the time that I need to make my phone usable for said call. The choice should be there for those that have a use for those 20 extra seconds when it's needed. It could be an add-on and not included in the main distros, I don't care. I'm just saying that there are people who know, how to make best use out of this kind of solution. I see it as an installable ipk package containing a kernel image as well as a (modified) gsm daemon + everything else essential to the call that would probably go on a separate partition. There would be instructions to make to the boot manager and we'd have exactly what we need. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian - alsa sound ?
Interesting is, that alsaplayer produces sound output when playing a mp3 file. But the playing is stuttering extremly. MPG123 (MPG123-alsa) can't output sound with an error message writing to the output device. Audacious crashes with a segmentation fault. BMPX hangs as soon as i want to select a mp3 file. Only mplayer plays the mp3's without any problems so i can hear it. It seems that the sound system and programs are not as stable/useable as i hoped. :/ Ciao, Rainer Matt wrote: I have Debain+FSO+Updates installed and do have sound. aplay made an awful racket, but mplayer worked fine. Sound comes out the FR and one headphone. not sure why both headphone don't work. I didn't do any configuring to get sound working, if you want any of my config file, ask. ~ Matt Fox Mulder wrote: I got the same problem as you with no sound but the modules are loaded and the soundcard is listed. The test with mpg123 gives also the same result. :( The command alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/stereoout.state restore didn't help at all. Did you find a solution for the problem that the neo doesn't output any sound? Maybe i'm missing some essential sound module or what ever. It makes me sad that i can't hear anything from my lovely neo. :) Ciao, Rainer Rorschach wrote: Same problem here, also on irc someone told he had it. If I play and don't abort I get an error-message after some time: # mpg123 ff7-ringtone.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3 version 1.4.3; written and copyright by Michael Hipp and others free software (LGPL/GPL) without any warranty but with best wishes Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: ff7-ringtone.mp3 ... Title: Fanfare Artist: Nobuo Uematsu Album: Final Fantasy VII OSV CD1 Genre: Soundtrack MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 48000 Hz stereo [audio.c:532] error: Error in writing audio (Input/output error?)! [mpg123.c:557] error: Deep trouble! Cannot flush to my output anymore! Some further information: debian-gta02:~# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [neo1973gta02 ]: WM8753 - neo1973-gta02 neo1973-gta02 (WM8753) debian-gta02:~# aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 0: WM8753 HiFi WM8753 HiFi-I2S-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 1: Voice WM8753 Voice-PCM-1 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 debian-gta02:~# lsmod|grep snd snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 8200 0 snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s 4120 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_s3c24xx 4736 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_wm8753 29376 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_core 27488 3 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_wm8753 snd_pcm73733 2 snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_core snd_timer 20388 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 6376 1 snd_pcm snd46740 5 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_wm8753,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm,snd_timer debian-gta02:~# asoundconf list Names of available sound cards: neo1973gta02 debian-gta02:/# cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_soc_wm8753 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
check with the distributors. Its the same product. Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
the site is ready but it is too poor... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
Unfortunately that means people who live in a place that does not have a distributor - like Brazil - are SOL for like, forever, appearently. Sigh. I guess I should unsubscribe from the list for 6 months and then check back. My optimism tells me to wait a bit still, but its not eternal. - R On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check with the distributors. Its the same product. Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be aviable. I'm programming the service, somebody wants to help me with some suggestions? Thanks, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope it will look more user-friendly than getdeb.net (and nicer) maybe adding categories could help and chaning the layout of course... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Hello, It time is very critical, it seems better to let the phone continuously on. Otherwise is this scenario acceptable (automatic call after 3 minutes): the phone is off, the user still holds the power on button while the kernel is starting (say during 5 seconds or more), when the OS is operationnal, an automatic message is sent (with info on the user, possibly gps coordinates, etc...). Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 02:33:42PM +0100, Valerio Valerio wrote: 2008/8/23 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] valerio are you from Italy? :D Nop, Portugal . Eh pah, temos de combinar um encontro da malta com OpenMokos em Portugal :) Abraços -- You are what you see. Today is Setting Orange, the 16th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko @ Linuxworld
somebody got a great deal then. Jim Morris wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: Ken was great. when I first thought to have the community help staff the booth, i had no idea how well it work out. the community speaks better for the product and the ideals than anyone can. Michael Shiloh wrote: Nice work Ken, one of our community volunteers! Yep he did a great job, pity he ended up selling his FR :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
I hope this and I'm making the possible but I preferr to release asap a poor site and then implement new features. it is better then release a complete site but not soon..., isn't? 2008/8/23 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be aviable. I'm programming the service, somebody wants to help me with some suggestions? Thanks, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope it will look more user-friendly than getdeb.net (and nicer) maybe adding categories could help and chaning the layout of course... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left
On 22 Aug 2008, at 21:14, Russell Sears wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I presume sound works after suspend? Yep. What about incoming phone calls during suspend? From the original post: On 22 Aug 2008, at 20:38, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: ... After 29 hours I called it and it woke up with 70% battery left. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this and I'm making the possible but I preferr to release asap a poor site and then implement new features. it is better then release a complete site but not soon..., isn't? 2008/8/23 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be aviable. I'm programming the service, somebody wants to help me with some suggestions? Thanks, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope it will look more user-friendly than getdeb.net (and nicer) maybe adding categories could help and chaning the layout of course... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community sure! don't get me wrong, I'm also want this site ASAP; I was merely stating some points that could be improved ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emergency call at boot time functionality (was Re: Windows CE on freerunner)
Am Samstag, 23. August 2008 19:04:18 schrieb Gilles Casse: It time is very critical, it seems better to let the phone continuously on. Otherwise is this scenario acceptable (automatic call after 3 minutes): the phone is off, the user still holds the power on button while the kernel is starting (say during 5 seconds or more), when the OS is operationnal, an automatic message is sent (with info on the user, possibly gps coordinates, etc...). This is problematic, if the power button is pressed while the phone is in the pocket. Maybe it would be possible to boot the kernel, gsm and X, then display a button for emergency calls while the rest (bluetooth, wifi and user interface stuff) is starting up. If the user presses the emergency call button the bootprocess stops/pauses and a menu like this shows up: 911 999 112 Continue booting Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem in building image using MokoMakefile
Hello everyone, Previously I was using toolchain to compile the programs, but now i need the openmoko setup and bitbake in my PC. I used the Mokomakefile to build the devel image and followed the instructions in the wiki. But the following command fails with the error: *** make openmoko-devel-image ( cd build . ../setup-env \ ( bitbake openmoko-devel-image u-boot-openmoko ) ) ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root). make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1 ** Can anyone suggest me the way for fixing this . Thanks.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Attached is the source and binary, if you have Qtopia, just copy the binary qtgps to your FR, and run it from the file manager or terminal. (I'll figure out how to package it soon). Oh you also need to install gpsd (opkg install gpsd). If you have problems let me know, I'll put up a blog entry on how to compile this with Trolltechs toolchain. Launching it from the filemanager I get an error saying Can't open gpsd, while gpsd is installed, configured and running correctly in my phone. :o Hmm, can you do a gpspipe -r from the command line and see what happens? You may need to install gpsd_utils. I'll add some logging so we can see what is going on. By default it connects to gpsd at localhost, any parameters passed in will be taken as a different host to connect to. You could also try running it from the terminal and see if anything more useful is printed out. Thanks for trying it. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check with the distributors. Its the same product. Also of note: koolu.com just changed their prices from CAD to USD. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Googlemaps + tangoGPS
Has anybody been able to use googlemaps with tangoGPS? I tried the url provided at http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/12-FAQ.html: http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404v=w2p.64hl=enx=3y=5zoom=13s=Galile, replaced the numbers with %d and checked the inverse-button, but it didn't work Someone might be able to find the right url by looking at the source code @ maps.google.com perhaps? There are urls like http://mt0.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt1.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt2.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt3.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26; in there. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problems with Debian/FSO
First let me say how impressed I am with the script produced by the debian arm team, really great stuff. I've got it running on a 2gb sd card, boots into xfce with no problems (simply followed these instructions: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td735065). A few issues, though: DHCPDISCOVER runs at every boot, then times out. How do I disable this? I have no problems manually configuring my wifi with iwconfig but I can't seem to get THAT to work without having it time out. xfce-panel doesn't always startup. I have to enter terminal and run nohup xfce-panel to get it to work properly. I also can't right-click--thus I can't change the panel settings. zhone works, can make calls, etc but CANNOT receive calls. Why is this? Thanks a lot guys, keep up the good work and remember that we are the TRUE open source mobile community. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Problems-with-Debian-FSO-tp778798p778798.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem in building image using MokoMakefile
I saw the same error and fixed it by doing this: su root echo 0 /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr exit then try make again. Luke. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello everyone, Previously I was using toolchain to compile the programs, but now i need the openmoko setup and bitbake in my PC. I used the Mokomakefile to build the devel image and followed the instructions in the wiki. But the following command fails with the error: *** make openmoko-devel-image ( cd build . ../setup-env \ ( bitbake openmoko-devel-image u-boot-openmoko ) ) ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root). make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1 ** Can anyone suggest me the way for fixing this . Thanks.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
If anyone is in Canada, I'm looking to sell mine. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check with the distributors. Its the same product. Also of note: koolu.com just changed their prices from CAD to USD. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.2 media player
The media player doesn't really understand file formats. Instead, gstreamer handles the actual playback, so you'll probably need to install one of the gst-plugin-* packages. What error message does it give on the command line? Does the log conclude a plausible looking mime type? -Rusty William Kenworthy wrote: What package do I need to install to get the 2007.2 media player to play wav files? Is there documentation anywhere about the media player? - in particular its a streaming media player - how? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 01:17 (+1000), Dale Maggee wrote: try it again, should work now... Yep, does. Thanks again! Bye, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with Debian/FSO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, welcome in the XFCE club :) yochaigal wrote: First let me say how impressed I am with the script produced by the debian arm team, really great stuff. I've got it running on a 2gb sd card, boots into xfce with no problems (simply followed these instructions: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td735065). A few issues, though: DHCPDISCOVER runs at every boot, then times out. How do I disable this? I have no problems manually configuring my wifi with iwconfig but I can't seem to get THAT to work without having it time out. Mmm... I can not to help too much! you tried to have a look ok /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? xfce-panel doesn't always startup. I have to enter terminal and run nohup xfce-panel to get it to work properly. This is simple, you can: A) Configure /usr/bin/zhone-session: (here is mine) #!/bin/sh #zhone exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes b) Add it to XFCE - Setting - Autostart application I also can't right-click--thus I can't change the panel settings. You have to install the Sebastion Ohl's patch: (http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb) Attention you need to replace your calibration because for now, if you use this patch you will have a wrong calibration (don't ask me why) Take it http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal and put to /etc/pointercal zhone works, can make calls, etc but CANNOT receive calls. Why is this? This depends by the sim, I think, I hope it arrive as soon an update! Thanks a lot guys, keep up the good work and remember that we are the TRUE open source mobile community. We are the best :) Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsG0LSIAU/I6SkT0RApmVAJ42bopxFjLb10YLeAyepYvDv2VNTwCfaDJ+ O+UhD0zIGZhszp9/IQfcdkc= =7I0Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem in building image using MokoMakefile
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Luke Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the same error and fixed it by doing this: su root echo 0 /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr exit Thanks, the build has been started successfully. then try make again. Luke. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Previously I was using toolchain to compile the programs, but now i need the openmoko setup and bitbake in my PC. I used the Mokomakefile to build the devel image and followed the instructions in the wiki. But the following command fails with the error: *** make openmoko-devel-image ( cd build . ../setup-env \ ( bitbake openmoko-devel-image u-boot-openmoko ) ) ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root). make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1 ** Can anyone suggest me the way for fixing this . Thanks.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Saurabh Gupta Senior, Electronics and Communication Engg. NSIT,New Delhi, India ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Raster's keyboard disappear after installation of some packages
Hi, I use the raster's image (15/08/08) and after installing some packages, the great keyboard from Rasterman is replaced by the boring keyboard from 2008.8. How can I restore the raster's keyboard ? Thanks Yves Mahe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems with Debian/FSO
Hi, Am Samstag, den 23.08.2008, 12:39 -0700 schrieb yochaigal: zhone works, can make calls, etc but CANNOT receive calls. Why is this? Please log in via ssh, run /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd stop, stop zhone, start frameworkd in the console and watch it’s output, start zhone on another terminal, then try to receive a call and watch for output. If you get assertions about unknown number types, tell us about the type you have found and then to apt-get update apt-get upgrade /me should write down these debugging informations in the Wiki, I guess. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
On Saturday 23 August 2008 08:25:08 Dale Maggee wrote: If you're like me, you're a big fan of gkrellm, and you always have it running so you can keep an eye on what your system is doing. I wanted to have a remote display of my FR CPU usage on my host, for the same reason - to be able to see at a glance what's going on. Looking at gkrellm's man page, I discovered that it can monitor a remote host which is running gkrellmd - the gkrellm daemon. [snip] You can do the a similar thing with ksysguard. I have debian running on my freerunner, so it was simple to install it, and monitor my freerunner's process table, cpu and memory consumption remotely You need to install ksysguardd which is the demon that ksysguard connects to. I also found that I could not directly connect to the demon, instead I needed to use an SSH tunnel. To do that, I added my ssh key as authorised in /root/.ssh, and started an ssh agent on my desktop PC, with my key loaded. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Googlemaps + tangoGPS
Yorick Moko wrote: Has anybody been able to use googlemaps with tangoGPS? I tried the url provided at http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/12-FAQ.html: http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404v=w2p.64hl=enx=3y=5zoom=13s=Galile, replaced the numbers with %d and checked the inverse-button, but it didn't work Someone might be able to find the right url by looking at the source code @ maps.google.com perhaps? There are urls like http://mt0.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt1.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt2.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt3.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26; in there. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://mt1.google.com/mt?x=%dy=%dzoom=%d Works for me. -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tester please?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:02:06 +0200, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: [...] When all is said and done, I suspect the better solution will be a standalone single-binary dns cache, but I looked at dnsmasq and decided to stick with what I was familiar with to start, and it turned out to be less resource-hungry than I'd feared so I may just stick with it if I can pare it down and polish it a bit further. nice work, i like djbdns and dnscache and use them myself a lot (on servers, routers etc) i hope somebody can add a nice recipe to oe/om-oe including some fhs compliance patches etc.. first i wanted to ask how you plan to solve the 'djbs licensing madness'-issue, but i see he placed all that stuff under public domain last december.. nice surprise ;) with djbdns you may not notice this for years, i still have installations with 4 year old binaries of it running Yes, that was a concern of mine at first as well, but I decided to pursue it at least for my own use. And then when I went to retrieve the sourcecode tarballs I discovered his license change affecting both djbdns and daemontools. Fortuitous, sort of a belated Christmas present. (for those unaware, DJBernstein's software was always available under a 'non-license' that permitted source-code redistribution only, but on 28Dec07 he placed djbdns and daemontools, and other packages on other days, into the public domain, so that distribution of a modified binary is now permissible) j kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cincinnati Bell Wireless
On Friday 22 August 2008 02:47:00 Nick Matteo wrote: Hello, I intend to buy a FreeRunner. This will be my first time owning a cell phone, though. My service plan is offered through my university by Cincinnati Bell Wireless, and includes a free phone. Can I expect that removing the SIM card from the free phone and placing it in the FreeRunner will work? (IE, allow calls and SMS. I'd do any data over wifi.) Probably. A quick google search shows that Cincinnati Bell Wireless operate a GSM network, which is compatible with the freerunner. You should get a 850MHz model. It is possible that your network may use nasty tricks to prevent you from using the SIM card from the free phone in your freerunner. It is possible to lock SIM cards to a particular handset for example, however this is fairly unlikey. Welcome to the freerunner club. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)
I had the same problem, i have deleted the files in /var/lib/opkg, and using only the testing branch, after deleting i made opkg update followed by a opkg upgrade, and it works well for me. I didn't use the dev branch. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same problem with the image http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/, but after adding the testing branch of http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/ i can dialout/receiving calls/ receiving system sms from provider voicemail/ receiving normal sms from friends. 1 i have installed the images from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ (20080815) 2 i deleted files in the /var/lib/opkg folder 3 create the zecke.conf file in /etc/opkg (om2008.8-testing) 4 opkg update 5 opkg upgrade and reboot 6 started the dialer, entring my pin code it's works well, now let's see the stability ;) I am using the stock om2008.8 images, and with both zecke-dev and zecke-testing repos, I'm getting errors like the following while doing opkg upgrade (after opkg update) for a lot of packages/libraries: Failed to download qtopia-phone-x11-taskmanager-app-data. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? What am I doing wrong? And why doesn't somebody test basic phone functions before publishing a 'stable' release? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Googlemaps + tangoGPS
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Alex Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: Has anybody been able to use googlemaps with tangoGPS? I tried the url provided at http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/12-FAQ.html: http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404v=w2p.64hl=enx=3y=5zoom=13s=Galile, replaced the numbers with %d and checked the inverse-button, but it didn't work Someone might be able to find the right url by looking at the source code @ maps.google.com perhaps? There are urls like http://mt0.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt1.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt2.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26,http://mt3.google.com/mt/v\x3dw2.80\x26hl\x3dnl\x26; in there. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://mt1.google.com/mt?x=%dy=%dzoom=%d Works for me. -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's keyboard disappear after installation of some packages
Reset X or reset the fullphone, the keyboard will come back El sáb, 23-08-2008 a las 21:15 +0200, yves mahe escribió: Hi, I use the raster's image (15/08/08) and after installing some packages, the great keyboard from Rasterman is replaced by the boring keyboard from 2008.8. How can I restore the raster's keyboard ? Thanks Yves Mahe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
FYI Some european distributors ship arround the world (like pulster.com) with arround 30 eur for shippment, But most of them sell 900 Hz version I don't know the gsm frecuencies on brazil. El sáb, 23-08-2008 a las 14:01 -0300, robert lazarski escribió: Unfortunately that means people who live in a place that does not have a distributor - like Brazil - are SOL for like, forever, appearently. Sigh. I guess I should unsubscribe from the list for 6 months and then check back. My optimism tells me to wait a bit still, but its not eternal. - R On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check with the distributors. Its the same product. Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several questions about ASU
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:00:28 +0530 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ND) wrote: OK, after rebooting the FR, TangoGPS and GPSDrive are working, so GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 is correct. However, now TangoGPS crashes within a couple of minutes - I guess trying to fix orientation, because I was turning around trying to see if it worked, and started to freeze, and then fail. TangoGPS crashes on me regularly on ASU now too :( Petrnek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Launching it from the filemanager I get an error saying Can't open gpsd, while gpsd is installed, configured and running correctly in my phone. :o Ok I uploaded a new version, now with logging :) Run it, then ssh in and do a logread, copy paste the relevant parts of the log in an email to me, make sure you get the start and stop of the launch. There are a lot of weird log entries I don't understand from Qt, like this one... QTimeLine::start: already running But they don't look fatal. Also make sure that using host name localhost actually connects to 127.0.0.1 Thanks Jim -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Host Dead??
I have a huge problem my FR doesn¹t send power anymore in USB hostmode. The LED¹s will flicker for a split second when I connect / disconnect it, but that¹s it. I have had the same results with the 2007.2 image, as well as two different Debian SD card OS¹s. What can I do if anything to fix this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Host Dead??
What can I do if anything to fix this? did you do as http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_FAQ#How_to_use_an_external_USB_or_Bluetooth_keyboard_with_the_FreeRunner_.3F describes? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Krells!
Dale Maggee wrote: If you're like me, you're a big fan of gkrellm, and you always have it running so you can keep an eye on what your system is doing. I wanted to have a remote display of my FR CPU usage on my host, for the same reason - to be able to see at a glance what's going on. Looking at gkrellm's man page, I discovered that it can monitor a remote host which is running gkrellmd - the gkrellm daemon. So I downloaded the source and tried to compile the daemon for the freerunner using the toolchain (I haven't got the mokomakefile set up yet). I wasn't able to build an ipkg, but I was able to run the resulting binary on the freerunner, then connect to it from my host, achieving just what I wanted. screenshot: http://users.on.net/~antisol/krells.jpg (the krell on the left is the freerunner, the other one is my host) the gkrellmd binary: http://users.on.net/~antisol/gkrellmd.tar.gz to use it, just untar the binary, scp it to your freerunner, run gkrellmd -d on your freerunner, then run gkrellm -s freerunner ip on your host. it takes a while (~10 seconds) to connect, so be patient. Hopefully somebody else will find this usefull! :) adds this to list of things you can't do with any other phone Cheers, -Dale This is awesome. Thanks! And thanks too for showing how you did this. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
Thomas Bertani wrote: Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net http://getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be available. This is excellent. Thanks! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Substitute batteries
Harald Welte wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:13:00AM -0400, Charles Pax wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I have a few Nokia batteries laying around, BL-5c and BL-6c, and desktop chargers. They power the Freerunner fine, and seem to charge when they're in the FR plugged in. But the Freerunner doesn't know what to do with them apart from that, presumably since they lack the Openmoko coulomb counter circuit. The coulomb counter circuitry is in the battery? Why isn't this on the board itself? because the charging state is a property that is inherent to the battery, not your device. imagine you remove a 50% charged battery and insert a 90% charged battery. if the coulomb counter was on the mainboard, it would still think 50% after you put in the 90% battery. do batteries have serial numbers? is this something readable via the data terminals (i'm assuming they have a data terminal, most certainly have more than +ve and -ve connectors)? new serial number - battery meter in phone starts new calculations as to charge state of battery. it wouldn't take too many charge/discharge cycles to work out the characteristics of the battery. in fact, do we even need the serial number-reading part? as soon as the phone charging circuit detects any different characteristics, it could start the calculations afresh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Host Dead??
Seattle Web Creations, LLC wrote: I have a huge problem – my FR doesn’t send power anymore in USB hostmode. The LED’s will flicker for a split second when I connect / disconnect it, but that’s it. I have had the same results with the 2007.2 image, as well as two different Debian SD card OS’s. What can I do if anything to fix this? This may be an obvious question, but have you tried with a different USB cable? With any luck it's just your usb cable that's on the fritz ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
Michael Shiloh wrote: Thomas Bertani wrote: Hi, As soon as possible I'll release a new online service similar to getdeb.net http://getdeb.net, but for ipk packages. everybody can add apps with descriptions, screenshots, videos and comme (there will be also a rank system). A nice search engine will be available. This is excellent. Thanks! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian - alsa sound ?
smplayer [1] is a usable gui for mplayer. I do get some choppy sound, is that due the the os and mp3 being on the same sd? [1] debian-gta02:~# apt-cache show smplayer Package: smplayer Priority: optional Section: graphics Installed-Size: 1916 Maintainer: Matvey Kozhev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: armel Version: 0.6.1-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (= 1:4.3), libqt4-network (= 4.4.0), libqtcore4 (= 4.4.0), libqtgui4 (= 4.4.0), libstdc++6 (= 4.3), smplayer-translations (= 0.6.1-1), mplayer | mplayer-nogui Recommends: smplayer-themes Filename: pool/main/s/smplayer/smplayer_0.6.1-1_armel.deb Size: 870362 MD5sum: f8197d12190469db204bbf3d1cbf39a7 SHA1: 17bb3b854aa65c7348485fd00802551772b4885e SHA256: e62660931d09066387b9b2d9651147fce650ca827e7425a1c096e56bf9f9da93 Description: complete front-end for MPlayer Qt Mplayer front-end, with basic features like playing videos, DVDs, and VCDs to more advanced features like support for MPlayer filters and more. One of the most interesting features of SMPlayer: it remembers the settings of all files you play. So you start to watch a movie but you have to leave... don't worry, when you open that movie again it will resume at the same point you left it, and with the same settings: audio track, subtitles, volume... Homepage: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ Tag: uitoolkit::qt Fox Mulder wrote: Interesting is, that alsaplayer produces sound output when playing a mp3 file. But the playing is stuttering extremly. MPG123 (MPG123-alsa) can't output sound with an error message writing to the output device. Audacious crashes with a segmentation fault. BMPX hangs as soon as i want to select a mp3 file. Only mplayer plays the mp3's without any problems so i can hear it. It seems that the sound system and programs are not as stable/useable as i hoped. :/ Ciao, Rainer Matt wrote: I have Debain+FSO+Updates installed and do have sound. aplay made an awful racket, but mplayer worked fine. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Shawn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. The guy running the New York sales group stated the following in regard to out ten pack. The analyst for this section (8517.12.00) [1] at US Customs confirms there is no duty on cell phone imports from Canada and most everywhere else. Some 'processing charge' may be asessed by the USPS but it will not be more than a few dollars. [1] http://www.faqs.org/rulings/tariffs/85171200.html I'm no expert, but it should be free from tariffs. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
Shawn Thompson wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whats-your.name wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. Did you check the distributor section of our website? I think Koolu has a USA address as well now. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Host Dead??
This may be an obvious question, but have you tried with a different USB cable? With any luck it's just your usb cable that's on the fritz ;). Cheers, Mike. Yep, I tried everything, including changing the OTG adapter same results. It seem like this controller is fried or something - I don¹t know for sure, but would be very interested to hear if others have had this issue, as well as input from someone at Openmoko. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Shawn Thompson wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whats-your.name wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. Did you check the distributor section of our website? I think Koolu has a USA address as well now. Michael Their sales team stated it was still shipping from Canada when I wrote them recently. After the reply from Charles though I am just going to place my order Friday as I had originally planned to and not worry about it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
