Re: My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread Tim Wentford
For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or if they want to

Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)

2008-09-26 Thread Petr Vanek
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:48:38 +1000 Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SO) wrote: On Friday 26 September 2008 09:53:56 Glen Ogilvie wrote: Hi, Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)? This bug has been around for quite a long time and is critical and affecting many users. Can

Re: Cachewolf for Openmoko

2008-09-26 Thread vale
yes i know, unfortunatly i didn't find a solution. i think it can be related to a gtk setting in gconf or something like that. In /home/root/.gconf there has to be a gconf.xml somewhere perhaps we can change it there ?? reboot needed! greetings vale Petr Vanek wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep

Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

2008-09-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the Trac ticket (#1832, I think)? There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is not finished. I'm sure he will

Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread umaxx
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:49:47 +0200 Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umaxx wrote on 09/25/2008 10:32 PM: hi, i guess it is possible to set a background image in 2008.9? how, where - which file? regards, joerg Hi! I haven't tried 2008.9 yet but assuming its the

set next boot

2008-09-26 Thread Petr Vanek
lilo has -R option for next boot, grub has similar thing, is there any command that would set priority for next boot? (typical issue: running from a SD card and need to reboot [ wsod :( ] thank you -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko

Re: WIFI Connector Application

2008-09-26 Thread Arigead
Thanks to everybody who relied to this thread you have given my much food for thought. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Neo Freerunner shown at SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany

2008-09-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, there is a good opportunity in October for interested people from Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic and everywhere else to get direct experience with the Freerunner concept and device. Owners, Users, Developers will be at this fair - open for your questions and

Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots

2008-09-26 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hi list-members Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Strange enough Qtopia seems to know that suspending is not good for the

Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread Cédric DUFOUIL
Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ? Thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Tansella
On Friday 26 September 2008 00:05:12 Nicola Mfb wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 18:44 +0200 schrieb Michael Tansella: We are 2 Students and are doing a research project with the Freerunner. Now

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread flamma
4) A good music player, web browser and PDF reader. I can't help on that one. I toyed with the available media players and web browsers several weeks ago and that was all. I like minimo as a web browser. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit? [aux button]

2008-09-26 Thread flamma
Thought that would be the answer :( An idea would be a config dialog to repurpose the aux button. I dont use the lock function (the button sucks as a regular use button anyway) and could perhaps be used to kill the top application in the viewing stack as 2007.2 power button did. Its not

Re: WIFI Connector Application

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, September 25, 2008 a las 08:02:18PM +0100, Al Johnson escribió: I think the work that wpa_supplicant daemon does is only to control the association to the AP and bringing up the interface; then in FreeBSD a devd (device daemon) lets you describe what to do else, for example

Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit? [aux button]

2008-09-26 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know if that would be possible but I'd love that AUX+click served as right click (or any other way to trigger right clicks). nothing to do with aux, but i recall sebastian someone patched tslib so right-clicks could be emulated, i think with a long tap?

Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Russell Hay
Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Very interested onlooker

2008-09-26 Thread Paul
Hello everyone, I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to introduce my presence. I am using Linux (Mandrake, now Mandriva) since 1999 and discovered the Freerunner at about the same time that rumours started to appear about what is now the Android phone platform. So

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Lorn Potter
Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example

Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

2008-09-26 Thread vasco . nevoa
Very nice patch, Treviño. :) Standards-compliance can be a little hairy sometimes. I can see why a responsible, otherwise-occupied person would take a little while to publish. ;) Thanks, and happy hacking! Citando Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vasco Névoa wrote: Treviño, can

Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread Joseph Reeves
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje I think 2008/9/26 Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ? Thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Russell Hay
owww, a teaser! Hope it appears before Christmas :-) 2008/9/26 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying 'coming soon'... Only someone working

web browsing

2008-09-26 Thread GNUtoo
Hello, How do I(in midori): *install a certificate,because for now I use WEBKIT_IGNORE_SSL_ERRORS=1 midori to be able to view my mail,and it's not very secure. *download things(such as pdf) *enter a web address(such as www.openmoko.org) because i have no windows that shows when i click on

Re: [2008.9] What, no updates?...

2008-09-26 Thread vasco . nevoa
Okay, okay, I get the hint... ;) I'm switching to testing now. I gave up on it a couple of weeks ago because it was very unstable, but since you say it rocks... :) Citando Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 26 September 2008 00:50:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. It's been a long

Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt

2008-09-26 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Michael Tansella [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [...] Hi Michael, and what's about using qt without dbus in 2009.x? In /opt/Qtopia i found qt4 and qtopia phone libraries, how to build applications with them? thanks Nicola We would really prefer to

[OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion

2008-09-26 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Hi The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Well, I've got a few questions regarding input methods: - Is it possible to use qtopia

Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion

2008-09-26 Thread flamma
The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Did you know you can copy the /usr/share/dict/ files from your PC to your FR, and then you can

Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots

2008-09-26 Thread Thomas B.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:29:39AM +0200, Sven Bretfeld wrote: Hi list-members Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802

Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion

2008-09-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 13:27 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more I use my FR the less I like the current input methods. Raster's keyboard is a great improvement but still hardly useful if you're typing in a language other then english (e.g. swiss german). Did you know you can copy the

Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion

2008-09-26 Thread flamma
I cant remember ever seeing an answer though it used to be asked a lot - but how can you turn off the predictive altogether? It totally frustrating to use for what I do - its so slow and takes too many key strokes to do even anything simple ... BillK Are you talking about raster's

Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt

2008-09-26 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Where may we start a wiki page on this argument (openmoko, openembedded, fso?) I would create the page with a link on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide and categorize it under http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Application_Developer Minh

Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread Georg Michelitsch
umaxx wrote on 09/26/2008 09:04 AM: thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon welcome - just give me a message if you need further help. cu, Georg -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Very interested onlooker

2008-09-26 Thread Minh Ha Duong
I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to introduce my presence. Welcome then. Is the Freerunner able to run a PIM-like application (if so, what would that be)? Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone, I have never read about anybody daring

Re: [OM 2008.9] Keyboard discussion

2008-09-26 Thread William Kenworthy
Thanks, thats jogged a memory 89qtopia! BillK On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant remember ever seeing an answer though it used to be asked a lot - but how can you turn off the predictive altogether? It totally frustrating to use for what I do - its so

Re: Very interested onlooker

2008-09-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 26/09/2008 14:49, Minh Ha Duong wrote: I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. The idea is to be able to visualize such

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Thomas Bertani
Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. we have to wait few days or weeks? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)

2008-09-26 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use testingt, too. Suspend is working well for me. I boot sometimes with usb and sometimes without. IMHO testing works well unlike unstable, which forced me to reflash the filesystem cause it crashed it. Now I'm lucky again with testing. Greetings

Re: Very interested onlooker

2008-09-26 Thread Paul
Hello Minh (and others) Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone, I have never read about anybody daring to use evolution or kontact. From what I have seen online, about Qtopia, it looks good. Thank you. Don't expect that to work automagically. Pairing with a

Openmoko Party @ Bern/Switzerland @ Friday 3. October 2008 @ 16:00

2008-09-26 Thread zuber
Hello Community I want to invite you all to our Openmoko Party in Bern/Switzerland. We try to get the people interested in Openmoko together to have some good talks about our favorite mobile device/phone. What: Drinks, Food, Speeches Fun BYOS (Bring your own Speech) When: Oct 03. 16:00 CEST

help building ipk packages

2008-09-26 Thread Nicolas Laurance
hi community gurus, I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and elsewhere http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1084542 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake_recipe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile

Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread umaxx
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:46:34 +0200 Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umaxx wrote on 09/26/2008 09:04 AM: thanks for your explanation, i will try that soon welcome - just give me a message if you need further help. it is working, fine - thank you :)

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread dorje
Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. we have to wait few days or weeks? It depends on how big the corner is! :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: help building ipk packages

2008-09-26 Thread Joseph Reeves
Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 Joseph 2008/9/26 Nicolas Laurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi community gurus, I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and elsewhere

Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?

2008-09-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how to exit it :( Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a stylus just takes you back into the game. Ended up removing the battery. How?

Re: Very interested onlooker

2008-09-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 26 September 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote: Is there a possibility to install, for instance, Abiword on the Freerunner? I have seen in the archives and on the Wiki that people have installed Gentoo and Debian on the MicroSD card, so that sounds positive. I have not read anything

Re: help building ipk packages

2008-09-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Joseph Reeves wrote: Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 Adding a control file like: Package: $name Section: $section Priority: optional Version: $version Architecture: armv4t Maintainer: $your-name Depends:

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Kishore wrote: Currently downloading image So i should use the same kernel image as the 2008.8 but only reflash the rootfs i presume? FDOM does look interesting. I flashed both myself and haven't had any major problems, every now and then I'll have to reboot or it may get stuck in

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to this community. I just got myself the freerunner a couple of days back. I am a fairly experienced user of Linux/Debian/Kubuntu on the desktop and this is my first experience with something like the freerunner. Maybe

Re: [FSO] How to develop with Qt

2008-09-26 Thread Kelvie Wong
On September 26, 2008 01:32:57 Michael Tansella wrote: We would really prefer to use FSO and later SHR, we are going to develop a indoor navigation system and perhaps have to add some sensors via Bluetooth or I²C and as I understand dbus would be great for sensor fusion. I tried to add the

Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Camenzind
Hi, I can't connect to the internet from my freerunner. Usb network and ssh is working. Wifi and bluetooth is not working. I would like to install debian, because i think on debian wifi should work. Freerunner: Om2007.2 (over terminal i can install ipk-packages, but dependences are to deep to

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread Kishore
On Friday 26 Sep 2008 9:49:25 pm Federico Lorenzi wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to this community. I just got myself the freerunner a couple of days back. I am a fairly experienced user of Linux/Debian/Kubuntu on the desktop and this is

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread Kishore
On Friday 26 Sep 2008 8:56:29 pm Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Kishore wrote: Currently downloading image So i should use the same kernel image as the 2008.8 but only reflash the rootfs i presume? FDOM does look interesting. I flashed both myself and haven't had any major problems,

Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread Kelvie Wong
So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to reflash the entire rootfs (such as via a opkg upgrade using some custom feed)? -- Kelvie Wong

Re: Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Maciej Delmanowski
On Sep 26, Matthias Camenzind wrote: Freerunner: Om2007.2 (over terminal i can install ipk-packages, but dependences are to deep to load every file manually) Freerunner SD(2GB): Om2008 (wifi finds an unsecured net, but is not able to connect) Laptop: Ubuntu 8.04 (I tried to install a dhcp

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Jim Morris
Lorn Potter wrote: 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. Will you be able to integrate the bluetooth headset stuff into the UI by 4.4? Seems someone has got

Re: New to Freerunner!!

2008-09-26 Thread Matt Luzum
Kishore wrote: Ps: When using the default keyboard layout in a terminal, after typing, how does one input the Enter key? Just swipe your finger downwards. A swipe to the left is backspace and a swipe to the right adds a space. An upward swipe changes keyboard layouts. This is assuming

Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

2008-09-26 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can send messages with that one as well. Push 'Messages', then chose a contact from your SIM, then compose your message, then it's going into the outbox and will be sent. Hm. I couldn't make anything like that

Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4

2008-09-26 Thread Fox Mulder
I installed the new 0.4 and the notifications are quite cool. :) But i had the problem, that the gsm, usb and brightness icon wasn't shown anymore. After a bit investigation i found out that the new 0.4 deb package misses quite some icons. It misses the following icons: brightness.png

RE: Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Camenzind
I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name and why --dport 53? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:57:16 + Subject: Re: Install Debian without

Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread Charles Pax
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 The md5sums seemd to be for different files. If you change the file name in the md5sum, they check out

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread t m
Well, working sms, phone without echo and resume would be very nice :) The rest is nice to have. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Hay wrote: Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone have an outlook? There are

[Om2008.9] Qwerty button and spanner/wrench

2008-09-26 Thread Yorick Moko
I flashed Om2009 and changed my feeds to testing and opkg upgraded my gta02. There used to be a illume-config and an illume-config-illume in the repositories to enable the qwerty button and the spanner. I can't find them anymore (not in testing, not in unstable) Does anybody know how to get them

Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?

2008-09-26 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how to exit it :( Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a stylus just takes you back into the game. Ended up removing the

Re: Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Matthias Camenzind wrote: I tried but allways the same error on first line: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name You might need extra kernel modules. Could you give the exact error message? What I use is this: iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask

Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 10:36 -0700, Kelvie Wong escribió: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to reflash the entire rootfs (such as

Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
sorry my fault, I have made some renames manually to clarify but I only have messed things even more. El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 18:45 -0400, Charles Pax escribió: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday

Re: My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 07:13 +0100, Tim Wentford escribió: For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia

Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
Thanks a lot!!! I have no anounced the last update cause of this annoying bug on 20080927 release I have included this fix El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 15:26 +1000, nickd escribió: Flashed the latest copy of FDOM today and I'm having this [1] problem again. Anyone else experiencing problems or

[FDOM] new release 20080927

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
Hi all, on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/ you have disponible the new FDOM release. I have just erase previous release because there are some annoying bugs withs calls and no sound. But his has gone thanks to nickd, This release is not as tested as 2008.08 ones but include things, that

Re: My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 25-09-2008 a las 23:44 +0100, Tim Dobson escribió: Hi there, I've just moved to FDOM and I love it. I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't expect anyone to agree about all of

RE: Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Camenzind
i did first: iptables -N new_chain this worked,but only one time i could ping another pc in my network and opkg recived 404 Error (is trying to connect buildhost.openmoko.org , [I changed to correct directory but there arent packages.sig files]). Ping to WAN is somewehre disabled, i couldn't

Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Friday, September 26, 2008 20:15:59 David Samblas wrote: we are working on a script than convert any standard 2008.X updated into a FDOM to achieve this. That's fantastic :) I'll wait until then to upgrade, then. Thanks for the news, -- Kelvie Wong

RE: Install Debian without internet access

2008-09-26 Thread Matthias Camenzind
Now I'm istalling debain on my freerunner. This is what i did on ubuntu: sudo iptables -N RH-Firewall-1-INPUT sudo iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s