[FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-09-30 Thread Linus Gasser
Hi list, I'm running the latest FDOM (20080927) but still have a very annoying problem: my SIM-card is not read with regard to the address entries. If I go to the Contacts, there is only written Loading SIM on top, but nothing shows. IIRC, this was no problem in ASU_0807. Is there any way I

Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Montag, den 29.09.2008, 20:18 -0400 schrieb digger vermont: On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 22:10 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: Listen to dbus signals. dbus is a power of fso framerork :) Happy hacking ;) Yeah, I'm all for frameworkd! Problem is as far as I can see it's not currently

Re: [2008.9] installing lint-wifi

2008-09-30 Thread David Samblas
This is an old friend bug luckily easy to solve. edit the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py file go to line 82 and add an underscore at the beginnig of the init() then it must looks like _init() thats all. Some one will fix this some day in the OE repositorie Regards

Re: WIFI Connector Application

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Friday 26 September 2008 19:18:43 Matthias Apitz wrote: I've typed in the key in the FR again and again but it always said after some time 'ERROR Unable to join network' Yeah, it looks like there is quite a bit of separation between all the different facilities. The 'Settings-Wifi' GUI

Re: Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread Peter Mogensen
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Montag, den 29.09.2008, 20:18 -0400 schrieb digger vermont: Yeah, I'm all for frameworkd! Problem is as far as I can see it's not currently being used to configure the PWR button, at least as far as I can see. So what is currently telling the PWR button to

Re: GTK: Problem with the function g_main_context_iteration()

2008-09-30 Thread daniel103
Yes, I added the #include glib.h but I have the 1.2.10 version is that the problem? Can you say to me how to update glib? Thanks so much!!! Charles-Henri Gros wrote: daniel103 wrote: Hello, when I have included the folowing line: g_main_context_iteration (NULL, TRUE); I

Re: Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 09:05 +0200 schrieb Peter Mogensen: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Montag, den 29.09.2008, 20:18 -0400 schrieb digger vermont: Yeah, I'm all for frameworkd! Problem is as far as I can see it's not currently being used to configure the PWR button, at least as

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:36:02 +0800 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WK) wrote: Tried it - at the small screen setting and smallest I could set font the email got only 2 -3 words per line! Almost useless. Rather than have something adapted from the PC world, we need something designed for a PDA.

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/30 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cant handle 6-7000 messages going back 5 years (I regard this as medium, 5+ is large :) You may like to check the archives of the maemo-developers mailing list. There were similar discussions recently there, and IIRC with possible solutions.

[2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I'm using the Wifi-method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_WPA_and_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces i.e. having a working config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for all my known access points (which is just a copy of that I'm using daily and

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:06 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm using the Wifi-method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_WPA_and_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces i.e. having a working config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for all my known

Looking for Debug board owner in The Netherlands

2008-09-30 Thread Atilla Filiz
Hello, My FR suffers from the factory defect that my NOR is blank. I need a debug board to program it which I don't have and don't want to pay €100 just to use once. I am looking for someone who can help me, preferably around Eindhoven. Here is the deal: - I bring my FR, laptop and necessary

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread William Kenworthy
I would think the existing keyboards would still work as they already do in the console ... BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 10:12 +0200, Petr Vanek wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:36:02 +0800 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WK) wrote: Tried it - at the small screen setting and smallest I could

Re: Looking for Debug board owner in The Netherlands

2008-09-30 Thread Marijn Kruisselbrink
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 11:33:42 Atilla Filiz wrote: Hello, My FR suffers from the factory defect that my NOR is blank. I need a debug board to program it which I don't have and don't want to pay €100 just to use once. I am looking for someone who can help me, preferably around

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread William Kenworthy
s/console/terminal/ :) BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:35 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I would think the existing keyboards would still work as they already do in the console ... BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 10:12 +0200, Petr Vanek wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:36:02 +0800

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:42 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 11:28:18AM +0200, Xavier Bestel escribió: On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:06 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm using the Wifi-method described in

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 11:28:18AM +0200, Xavier Bestel escribió: On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:06 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm using the Wifi-method described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_WPA_and_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread vasco . nevoa
Hi all. Now that you mention this, I think the problem is Hardware based. I've bought an Asus Eee 901 :D, and now I have a means of comparison in terms of WiFi reception. My conclusion is that the Neo FR's wifi sucks. Example1: - my home AP has WPA; sitting 2 meters away from it, the FR show 50%

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paroli? We need more info about this I am in the dark as much as you are... Minh Seems to be a contacts+phone+messages framework implemented in Python, as far as I have found. Please. For FOSS's sake, not Python! Do you

RE: Looking for Debug board owner in The Netherlands

2008-09-30 Thread ashley elphick
hello Atilla Filiz, i can help you, i have a debug board version 2 for the neo1973, im in amsterdam, contact me and well try to arrange it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Looking for Debug board owner in The Netherlands

2008-09-30 Thread Sander van Grieken
Hello, My FR suffers from the factory defect that my NOR is blank. I need a debug board to program it which I don't have and don't want to pay €100 just to use once. I am looking for someone who can help me, preferably around Eindhoven. Here is the deal: - I bring my FR, laptop and

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Alex Osborne
Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm trying to bring up the eth0 with # ifup eth0 this works very unreliable; in (let's say) 8 of 10 cases it can't associate to the AP, even not after fresh re-boots and independently if the AP at my home works with WEP or in my office with WPA; I found that with

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. Now that you mention this, I think the problem is Hardware based. I've bought an Asus Eee 901 :D, and now I have a means of comparison in terms of WiFi reception. My conclusion is that the Neo FR's wifi sucks. Example1: - my

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 15:33 +0530 schrieb Nishit Dave: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paroli? We need more info about this I am in the dark as much as you are... Minh Seems

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
*yawn* Predujice... *yawn* years of experience using yumex, Fedora and what not. Carefully considered Predijuice. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Daniel Hedblom
Im also inclined to think its a hardware/driver problem and have nothing to do with wpa_supplicant or any other highlevel stuff. I fully understand if higher stuff is left to the community but i did expect the kernel and low level stuff to work a bit better than now when i bought the phone. It

Re: Call Volume on 2008.9

2008-09-30 Thread John Koenig
I tried the instructions at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Volume_Control After changing a certain pesky init() call to _init(), I had working volume.app. However, it seemed to break the sound system. The handset speaker/mic were non functional despite my

GPS Device

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Camenzind
Output is repeating endless.ttySCA0 and ttySCA2 gives no output. opkg install gpsd echo GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 /etc/default/gpsd /etc/init.d/gpsd restart [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# sleep 1s echo 1 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron stty -F /dev/ttySAC1 -echo cat -u

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread vasco . nevoa
Okay, I've filed bug #2043 about this. Go ahead and add info if you like. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2043 Citando Daniel Hedblom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Im also inclined to think its a hardware/driver problem and have nothing to do with wpa_supplicant or any other highlevel stuff. I

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Alastair Johnson
Alex Osborne wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm trying to bring up the eth0 with # ifup eth0 this works very unreliable; in (let's say) 8 of 10 cases it can't associate to the AP, even not after fresh re-boots and independently if the AP at my home works with WEP or in my office with WPA;

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Alastair Johnson
Nishit Dave wrote: *yawn* Predujice... *yawn* years of experience using yumex, Fedora and what not. Carefully considered Predijuice. Can you point to something specific that makes python unsuitable for a responsive GUI? I've seen unresponsive GUIs written with many languages,

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread Alex Osborne
On 30/09/2008, at 3:36 PM, W.Kenworthy wrote: Tried it - at the small screen setting and smallest I could set font the email got only 2 -3 words per line! Almost useless. I guess you're not using Debian then. Here's what it looks like out of the box on Debian, which I suppose has a

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: *yawn* Predujice... *yawn* years of experience using yumex, Fedora and what not. Carefully considered Predijuice. Can you point to something specific that makes python unsuitable for a

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended ?

2008-09-30 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Lorn Potter wrote: 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example browser, a location API/example gps apps, Gtalk jabber thingy. and I cannot remember what else. And something else that you'll have to read about when the announcement comes out. :) Is has been

Re: GPS Device

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Output is repeating endless.ttySCA0 and ttySCA2 gives no output. opkg install gpsd echo GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 /etc/default/gpsd /etc/init.d/gpsd restart ttySAC1 is correct. I wonder why the default setting is

Re: GPS Device

2008-09-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Matthias Camenzind | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | Output is repeating endless.ttySCA0 and ttySCA2 gives no output. | | opkg install gpsd

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended ?

2008-09-30 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before :

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 08:11:48PM +1000, Alex Osborne escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm trying to bring up the eth0 with # ifup eth0 this works very unreliable; in (let's say) 8 of 10 cases it can't associate to the AP, even not after fresh re-boots and

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 14:37 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 08:11:48PM +1000, Alex Osborne escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm trying to bring up the eth0 with # ifup eth0 ... matthias Hi Matthias, I am using these scripts with

Re: Minty Boost FreeRunner

2008-09-30 Thread -stacy
Matthias Apitz wrote: It seems that here in Germany they don't sell this type of Chewing Gum boxes, I had a hard time finding it locally as well. I finally mail ordered a ten pack. On the plus side, the gum doesn't stick to my dental work, so I can actually chew the stuff. the boxes

Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread digger vermont
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 14:25 +0800, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Montag, den 29.09.2008, 20:18 -0400 schrieb digger vermont: On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 22:10 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: Listen to dbus signals. dbus is a power of fso framerork :) Happy hacking ;) Yeah, I'm all

debian: where to download navit?

2008-09-30 Thread arne anka
i remember to have read a while ago, where to download navit for debian/armel -- but i can't find the message. could someone please post a link -- even for an ipk if nothing else exists? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Alex Osborne
On 30/09/2008, at 9:41 PM, Nishit Dave wrote: How about experience? I don't know about programming or system specifics, but as a user, Please don't take this the wrong way. There's a common misconception amongst non-programmers and even some less experienced programmers than anything

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean start Mofi, then switch to a different app and back to the still running Mofi? The window renders virtually instantly for me, there's a little flash of it redrawing but you really have to watch for it and it's not

[2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon

2008-09-30 Thread Arigead
Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so that Icon being pressed issues a DBUS message? Thanks for any help

Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-09-30 Thread Alex Osborne
On 30/09/2008, at 10:37 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: Wireless event: cmd=0x8b1a len=18 Authentication with 00:04:e2:a1:76:0b timed out. Added BSSID 00:04:e2:a1:76:0b into blacklist Yeah. That's exactly the same sort of thing I was seeing, which clearing the essid seems to help with most of

Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 02:38:51PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Alex Osborne
On 30/09/2008, at 11:34 PM, Nishit Dave wrote: If a GUI is not responding it's a problem with how the program is structured, it should be doing something asynchronously instead of blocking the event loop. I just hope everybody follows best practices. At the end of the day, all I need is

Problems building a sample project

2008-09-30 Thread lorena san vicente
Hi list, I am new at this I am proving step by step all that is commenting in openmoko wiki, but when I create a build configuration for this application with om-conf openmoko-sample2 it gives me an error: bash: om-conf: orden no encontrada why can it be??what can I do??? thanks very much

Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread Rod Whitby
digger vermont wrote: Are there nightly/daily's of frameworkd somewhere? There's a lot of good stuff being done I'd like try out. Or is the way to best way to take advantage of the new methods still using NFS or similar? If fso-image and task-openmoko-feed actually built properly in OE,

Re: Problems building a sample project

2008-09-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 16:26 +0200 schrieb lorena san vicente: Hi list, I am new at this I am proving step by step all that is commenting in openmoko wiki, but when I create a build configuration for this application with om-conf openmoko-sample2 it gives me an error: bash:

Re: Problems building a sample project

2008-09-30 Thread rhn
Wiadomość Oryginalna Od: lorena san vicente lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Do: List for Openmoko community discussion lt;community@lists.openmoko.orggt; Data: 30 września 2008 16:26 Temat: Problems building a sample project Hi list, I am new at this I am proving step by step all that is

Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Thanks Alex for this comprehensive post, that's exactly what I had in mind and should have actually written, but was too much in a hurry. Cheers, Mickey. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Alex has an excellent point. Both complexity time of algorithms and the lack of asynchronous work / threading are enumerations of poor programming practices, and not characteristics of a byte code interpreter or the like. Some UI lockups could easily be fixed by simply using threads, or even

[Om2008.9] xterm larger fonts

2008-09-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, Any hint about the name of a larger font that could be used with 'xterm -fn ...'? I'm as well missing 'xlsfonts' in FR :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308

SV: email

2008-09-30 Thread Jörgen Lidholm
What about tinymail http://tinymail.org? /Jörgen -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För W.Kenworthy Skickat: den 30 september 2008 07:36 Till: List for Openmoko community discussion Ämne: Re: email Tried it - at the small screen setting and

WiMax support

2008-09-30 Thread mallikarjun arjun
Dear all i am very new to openmoko world and i am thinking of buying one for me, but i have some doubts can anyone resolve them (1) does it support wimax? (2) i heard we can install a deb files is that true? (3) can i try android in it and install openmoko back? (4) are there any issues which are

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:05:19 +0100 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NJ) wrote: 2008/9/30 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cant handle 6-7000 messages going back 5 years (I regard this as medium, 5+ is large :) You may like to check the archives of the maemo-developers mailing list. There

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before :

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Does anyone know if an image will be available? I don't see it in the usual downloads location. - Original Message - From: \Marco Trevisan (Treviño)\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:50:12 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject:

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended ?

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
� wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Trevi�o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before :

Re: WiMax support

2008-09-30 Thread arne anka
(1) does it support wimax? afaik no (2) i heard we can install a deb files is that true? you can install debian/armel and thus the world of debian is open to you (3) can i try android in it and install openmoko back? not atm and it's quite unclear if ever -- android is for now available

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
� wrote: C�dric Berger wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Trevi�o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before :

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
wow! confirmed new features? gtalk, webbrowser, gps? In videos I can't see screen orientation, it is aviable? Thanks a lot for your work! 2008/9/30 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] � wrote: C�dric Berger wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Trevi�o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas Bertani wrote: wow! confirmed new features? gtalk, webbrowser, gps? In videos I can't see screen orientation, it is aviable? Yes. dynamic rotation is available. Thanks a lot for your work! no worries! 2008/9/30 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] �

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Paul
Joel Newkirk wrote: A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Thanks Joel. I'll go digging thru my box of old phones. I know there are a couple of Nokias in there. - Original Message - From: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:25:36 PM

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
One more question. Maybe it will be obvious once I get my hands on a charger, but how do you actually connect the battery? Will it fit in an old Nokia phone? Or do you somehow connect the battery directly to the charger? - Original Message - From: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
well whenever im hit with a dead battery i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Paul escribió: Joel Newkirk wrote: A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:32:26 +0200 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P) wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't

Re: SV: email

2008-09-30 Thread arne anka
What about tinymail http://tinymail.org? is there a gui? the page states, it is a framework but the demos show some kind of gui -- but i can't find further informations. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Paul
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: well whenever im hit with a dead battery i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Well, that is a very simple solution. :-) Thank you! Paul -- If you

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead and my fr will not boot, regardless of how long I leave it plugged in. - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [debian] install failure, fso-frameworkd is not going to be installed

2008-09-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/28 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/9/28 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, it doesn't. Now I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [...] E: Broken packages Hmm. I'll try again tomorrow. Solution! - Put both testing and unstable in your sources.list. - Install

Re: email

2008-09-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/30 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Neil, would you mind sending a bit more direct link, i am having 0 luck googling this up... thank you Here is one: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-June/033990.html. Regards, Neil

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:35:56 -0600 (MDT), Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question. Maybe it will be obvious once I get my hands on a charger, but how do you actually connect the battery? Will it fit in an old Nokia phone? Or do you somehow connect the battery directly to the

qemu

2008-09-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
In the course of working on my development VM, I installed qemu using Mokomakefile. It seems it installs a Qtopia image. Can someone lead me by the hand, or point out a howto/faq I missed, that clearly tells me how to set up other images with it, particularly FSO and 2008.9? I know that I need

Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
The battery usually lays in just like it does in the phone. The battery will fit into the Nokia, but I'd be surprised if the Nokia agreed to charge it, since it won't recognize it. Exactly right. My understanding is this: Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Matteo
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right. My understanding is this: Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have the correct charging parameters. Most

Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

2008-09-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/27 Jan Luebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 19:42 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can send messages with that one as well. Push 'Messages', then chose a contact from your SIM, then compose your

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks for this helpfully complete characterization. Since you found it illuminating, I'll add it to the wiki Do you happen to know if a Nokia battery (such as the BL-5c) will charge in the FreeRunner? Excellent question. That's the one case I left out. I'm pretty sure it does, because I'm

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone

2008-09-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Thanks for this helpfully complete characterization. | | Since you found it illuminating, I'll add it to the wiki | | Do you happen to know if a Nokia battery (such as the BL-5c) will | charge in the

Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone

2008-09-30 Thread Steve Mosher
verify and place in the wiki or FAQ Michael Shiloh wrote: The battery usually lays in just like it does in the phone. The battery will fit into the Nokia, but I'd be surprised if the Nokia agreed to charge it, since it won't recognize it. Exactly right. My understanding is this: Nokia

Debian size and uSD

2008-09-30 Thread Atilla Filiz
After I installed Debian on my stock uSD, i realized that Debian is _BIG_. There are tons of libraries installed. I think a lighter Debian is possible, any ideas? Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to that card. If I manually partition it (8MB fat and rest ext2)

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Richy
Wow, this ist s much faster/more responsive than FDOM/2008.9 on my phone. Is this just my phone or is this the difference between framebuffer and X11? On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Bertani wrote: wow! confirmed new features? gtalk, webbrowser,

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Thomas Bertani wrote: wow! confirmed new features? gtalk, webbrowser, gps? In videos I can't see screen orientation, it is aviable? Look at the modules... There's a shot [1]! [1] http://trolltech.com/images/products/screenshot-deskphone-ui-sunset -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Lorn Potter wrote: I wrote: but... Where are sources and binaries? We usually release the open source packages a couple days after the commercial release. They will be at the new site: http://qtextended.org As soon as I can. Hopefully by this weekend. Cool... Btw I've seen that

Re: Debian size and uSD

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:26:05 Atilla Filiz wrote: After I installed Debian on my stock uSD, i realized that Debian is _BIG_. There are tons of libraries installed. I think a lighter Debian is possible, any ideas? Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:52:38 Vince M. Clark wrote: I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead and my fr will not boot, regardless of how long I leave it plugged in. 6 - 8 hours on the wall charger is not unusual for my dead battery to start to function.

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Vince M. Clark wrote: My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Not that long on the wall charger. I'll leave it overnight and see what happens. I have left in on the USB charger for a few hours with no luck. - Original Message - From: Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent:

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charger overnight and see what happens. In the meantime i ordered an after market Nokia battery charger. They

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Vince M. Clark wrote: Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charger overnight and see what happens. In the meantime i ordered an after market

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Vince M. Clark
Yes. I have my fr plugged into the OpenMoko wall charger. Then I try NOR boot but nothing happens. I have tried NOR boot plugged in and not plugged in. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:31:22 Vince M. Clark wrote: Not that long on the wall charger. I'll leave it overnight and see what happens. I have left in on the USB charger for a few hours with no luck. The 'leave it overnight' scenario is the best one I encounter for a dead battery ;) ...

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Vince M. Clark wrote: Yes. I have my fr plugged into the OpenMoko wall charger. Then I try NOR boot but nothing happens. I have tried NOR boot plugged in and not plugged in. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community

Re: [debian] install failure, fso-frameworkd is not going to be installed

2008-09-30 Thread Tha_Man
Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/9/28 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solution! - Put both testing and unstable in your sources.list. - Install aptitude. (Possibly not actually necessary, but I'm used to it.) - Using aptitude: - Install libcaca0 and libcucul0, taking care to choose the 14

Re: dead battery

2008-09-30 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:37:22 Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Vince M. Clark wrote: Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charger

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