Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Kishore wrote:
 On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote:
 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200

 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
 you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.

 unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
 called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
 accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
 many bugs (old and new):

 - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
 uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
 previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.
 
 I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like 
 there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but then 
 it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow.

thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it. It's 
harmless

 
 - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
 in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 hmmm...
 indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
 I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i just 
 spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc. (My 
 previous 
 motoming phone does not have an export all feature)

ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files.

 
 - echo problem is back
 odd.

 - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
 - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
 as missed
 also odd. I haven't seen this.

 The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
 thought it was going to be 4.4.3?
 Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug fixes.
 
 I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well it 
 manages calls.
 
 Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does 
 that 
 mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find one 
 application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate.

We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic 
rotation on the Neo.


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Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd



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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Kishore
On Friday 03 Oct 2008 11:29:39 am Lorn Potter wrote:
 Kishore wrote:
  On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote:
  Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
 
  Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if
  you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.
 
  unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
  called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
  accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 
  hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too
  many bugs (old and new):
 
  - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
  uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
  previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 
  yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.
 
  I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like
  there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but
  then it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow.

 thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it.
 It's harmless

OK. Harmless but still looks bad but no issue really.

  - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
  in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 
  hmmm...
  indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
  I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i
  just spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc.
  (My previous motoming phone does not have an export all feature)

 ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files.

Thanks!

  - echo problem is back
 
  odd.

I put in a SIM to test. Neither I nor the other side experience any echo.

  - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
  - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
  as missed
 
  also odd. I haven't seen this.

When i answer a call it does register the same call as a missed call too. I 
have another issue where if the call was from an unknown contact and i wish to 
add to my contacts list, it would ask me if i want to create a new contact and 
there touch screen does not respond to my input on either of yes or no or 
elsewhere. I have to press the AUX button to recover.

Also when i choose to delete data from the call history, it okays my input but 
does not delete the entry.

  The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
  thought it was going to be 4.4.3?
 
  Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug
  fixes.
 
  I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well
  it manages calls.
 
  Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does
  that mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find
  one application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate.

 We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic
 rotation on the Neo.

OK, Is there an API that one can use to write a small script daemon?
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Cheers!
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Re: [debian] Evince works and is nice for ebooks

2008-10-03 Thread Nishit Dave
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frederic Leroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Le Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:05:53 +0200,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  writes:
 
   I am currently using epdf and it work well too
 
  The nice thing IMHO with Evince is that it supports many formats:
  - djvu
  - pdf
  - cbz (xipped archive of images)
 
  Nice !
 
  and some others.
 
  Does it support plucker(.pdb) files too ? I've got a lot of these.

 I'm not sure, but I dont think so.


Why can't we have GUIs redesigned for mobile screens? There are many
packages like epdfviewer etc. out there that just replicate the GUI used for
a PC.  The menu bar takes up too much space.  Menus need to scroll.  The
file open dialog is nearly impossible to use.

The qpe file manager is also a pain, so it becomes even more difficult to
have a roundabout solution.
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Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-10-03 Thread Nishit Dave
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Nishit,

 The company that sold you your Freerunner offered you refund, already.

 I assumed that you would take this, leave the list and STOP FUCKING
 WHINING.

 I guess this was too much for me to hope for, huh?

 Dude, I will decide what to say, till the time I return the FR, if I decide
to do so.  If you don't like what I say, complain to the list maintainers.
Otherwise, hold your tongue or come up with a solution.

I have showed my commitment to a cause by putting my money where my mouth
is, and I didn't do it because I wanted to hop on to the embedded linux
shebang.  If I feel that I have been let down, I have every right to say
so.  Refunds do not make up for lost time.
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Re: dead battery

2008-10-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 12:28 -0600 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac
 replacement that fits. It doesn't come charged but has enough
 charge to at least jump start my fr. I put in the new battery,
 plugged in the usb cable, and was able to boot.
 
 Then I took out the Rayovac battery and put the original
 battery back in. Device stayed running and I am hoping the
 battery is charging. The power button is staying illuminated
 and is red. Any idea what that means?

See /etc/freesmartphone/rules.yaml to tweak the LED set up in the
fso-image. Right now it`s:

Power: Off while discharging, Red while charging, Blue when full, Red
blinking, when critical.

Soon:

Aux: Blinking on missed event (call, sms, alarm).

:M:

 


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Re: [debian] Evince works and is nice for ebooks

2008-10-03 Thread Stroller

On 3 Oct 2008, at 07:52, Nishit Dave wrote:

 Why can't we have GUIs redesigned for mobile screens?

Because you haven't redesigned them  written the code.

 There are many packages like epdfviewer etc. out there that just  
 replicate the GUI used for a PC.  The menu bar takes up too much  
 space.  Menus need to scroll.  The file open dialog is nearly  
 impossible to use.

hold your tongue or come up with a solution

Stroller.




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Re: How to build qt-extended?

2008-10-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/3 Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It is activated in the released image. At least I can set the encryption on
 my email account.


I just downloaded the updated toolchains, but the problem persist:

$QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo

***
Configuring Qt Extended (expanded commandline):
-using-device neo -ui-type mobile -dynamic-rotation -ssl -dbus -libamr
-pictureflow -add-mediaengines cruxus -add-modules bluetooth -add-modules
cell
-add-modules connectivity -add-modules devtools -add-modules essentials
-add-modules games -add-modules inputmethods -add-modules location
-add-modules
media -add-modules messaging -add-modules pim -add-modules pkgmanagement
-add-modules telephony -add-modules ui -displaysize 480x640 -font
dejavu_sans_condensed:10,12,13,16,28:50 -font
dejavu_sans_condensed:13,14,15,16,20,21,23,32,36:75 -xplatform linux-neo-g++
-arch arm -languages en_US -prefix /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia
-extra-qtopiacore-config -qt-mouse-tslib -sound-system alsa -mkconf -make
/usr/bin/gmake -no-save-options -make /usr/bin/gmake -using-mkconf
-no-save-options
***


This is the Qt Extended Open Source Edition.

You are licensed to use this software under the terms of the GPL.
Please see the file LICENSE.GPL for the licensing terms.

Type 'yes' to accept this license offer.
Type 'no' to decline this license offer.

Do you accept this license agreement? yes

Testing the system Qt: OK
Qt Extended is using the following locations:
Qt  PREFIX  = /usr
Qt  LIBRARIES   = /usr/lib/qt4
Qt  BINARIES= /usr/bin
Qt  HEADERS = /usr/include/qt4
Qt Embedded SOURCE tree = /opt/qt-extended-4.4.1/qtopiacore/qt
Qt Embedded BUILD  tree = /opt/build/qtopiacore/target
Qt Extended SOURCE tree = /opt/qt-extended-4.4.1
Qt Extended BUILD  tree = /opt/build
Qt Extended SDKtree = /opt/build/sdk

Checking the compiler (host): OK (GCC 4, Little Endian)
Checking the compiler (target): OK (GCC 4, Little Endian)
Bootstrap QBuild: ... OK
Testing QBuild: OK
Testing for ALSA: OK
Testing Qt Extended Media Engines: cruxus
Checking QMAKE_RPATH: -Wl,-rpath-link,
Testing for OpenSSL: OK
Testing for dynamic rotation: OK
Testing DBUS: OK
Checking for PAGE_SIZE and PAGE_MASK: MISSING
WARNING: QSharedMemoryCache will not throw away unused pages
Testing for strict warning flags your compiler accepts: -Wall
-Woverloaded-virtual
Testing for V4L2: OK
Testing for prctl(): OK
Testing for semtimedop: OK
Testing for __malloc_hook: OK

Running configure (qtopiacore)...
/opt/build/src/build/bin/pkgconfig:/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin:/opt/vmware/server/bin:/opt/vmware/server/console/bin
configure -embedded arm -platform linux-g++ -xplatform
/opt/qt-extended-4.4.1/devices/neo/mkspecs/qws/linux-neo-g++ -prefix
/opt/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target -make src -make tools -no-stl
-no-exceptions -no-xmlpatterns -no-qt3support -no-glib -no-cups -no-dbus
-no-accessibility -nomake examples -nomake demos -nomake docs
-DQT_QWS_DISABLE_FLUSHCLIPPING -confirm-license -depths 8,16,18,24,32
-qconfig qpe -DQT_NO_PLUGIN_CHECK -DQT_EXTERNAL_SOUND_SERVER
-DQT_QWS_KEYEVENT_SINGLECLIENT -force-pkg-config -no-sql-ibase -no-sql-mysql
-no-sql-odbc -no-sql-psql -no-sql-sqlite -no-sql-sqlite2 -qt-sql-sqlite
-release -no-gfx-qvfb -no-mouse-qvfb -no-kbd-qvfb -qt-gif -DMEDIA_SERVER
-no-separate-debug-info -DQT_KEYPAD_NAVIGATION -dbus -qt-gfx-transformed
-DQT_QWS_DYNAMIC_TRANSFORMATION -DQT_QWS_CLIENTBLIT -little-endian
-qt-mouse-tslib


Preparing build tree...




You are licensed to use this software under the terms of
the GNU General Public License (GPL) versions 2 or 3.


Creating qmake. Please wait...

Building on:   linux-g++
Building for:  /opt/qt-extended-4.4.1/devices/neo/mkspecs/qws/linux-neo-g++
Architecture:  arm
Host architecture: i386

Build ...  src tools libs
Configuration ...  cross_compile release shared dll embedded largefile
precompile_header exceptions_off  embedded reduce_exports ipv6 clock-gettime
clock-monotonic mremap getaddrinfo ipv6ifname getifaddrs inotify png gif
freetype system-zlib dbus openssl svg webkit release
Debug ... no
Qt 3 compatibility .. no
QtDBus module ... yes (run-time)
QtXmlPatterns module  no
Phonon module ... no
SVG module .. yes
WebKit module ... yes
WebKit in Assistant   no
STL support . no
PCH support . yes
MMX/3DNOW/SSE/SSE2..  no/no/no/no
iWMMXt support .. no
IPv6 support  yes
IPv6 ifname support . yes
getaddrinfo support . yes
getifaddrs support .. yes
Accessibility ... no
NIS support . no
CUPS support  no
Iconv support ... no
Glib support  no
GStreamer support ... no
Large File support .. 

Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread gromez
Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
(uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
from USB.
Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)

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Re: [debian] Evince works and is nice for ebooks

2008-10-03 Thread joakim
Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frederic Leroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Le Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:05:53 +0200,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  writes:
 
   I am currently using epdf and it work well too
 
  The nice thing IMHO with Evince is that it supports many formats:
  - djvu
  - pdf
  - cbz (xipped archive of images)
 
  Nice !
 
  and some others.
 
  Does it support plucker(.pdb) files too ? I've got a lot of these.

 I'm not sure, but I dont think so.

 Why can't we have GUIs redesigned for mobile screens? There are many packages 
 like epdfviewer etc. out there that just replicate the GUI used for a PC.  
 The menu bar takes
 up too much space.  Menus need to scroll.  The file open dialog is nearly 
 impossible to use.

 The qpe file manager is also a pain, so it becomes even more difficult to 
 have a roundabout solution.

In this particular case I think Evince does an ok job.

For me its a benefit that the same app is usable on debian/freerunner
and on my desktop. I think the challenge is somehow making skins for
existing apps that make them behave better on small screens.




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[2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Arigead
Hello all,
could anybody shed some light on debugging the FR Kernel. I'm 
getting constant locks of the phone and I'm trying to get to the source 
of the problem.

Just to go over some stuff that may be important. I did have [2008.9] 
installed and added some groups to contacts. I then flashed in [FSO] to 
see if that was any less locky. No luck there so flashed back in 
[2008.9]. I found I still have some groups that I defined two flashes 
ago. I didn't expect that. Is there a way to totally wipe the flash to a 
clear state before I start?

Aside from that starting place I've got [2008.9] installed and nothing 
else. I've only flashed in the images and opkg installed nothing. So 
it's a clean [2008.9]

What I'm doing to lock up the phone is opening contacts and adding 
contacts. I've never managed to add a third contact before the phone 
locks up. This does not have to be the contacts application at all. I 
can lock the phone with generally doing anything I've noticed no pattern.

I've changed /etc/syslog.conf so that I'm logging to the uSD card but I 
can't see a pattern. If I had the debug board would I be able to locate 
the source of this problem? Can I add:

kern.*-/var/log/kern.log

to syslog.conf to try focus on the kernel. Does anybody have an opinion 
that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various 
apps I'm assuming that it's something core.

Nobody has ever responded to email on this subject so either they're not 
getting through to the list or nobody is interested. Will somebody 
please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list and nobody is 
interested in helping me find my FR's problem.

Thanks


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Re: [debian] Evince works and is nice for ebooks

2008-10-03 Thread Nishit Dave
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 Because you haven't redesigned them  written the code.


No, you do it, I pay for the product, you earn, and then show what a class
act you are:


 hold your tongue or come up with a solution

 Stroller.


See?  Nobody invited your advise here.  You don't even see the context.  You
and your kind are what is wrong with the open source community, as
innumerable opinions have emphasized over the years.
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Re: rescue my freerunner

2008-10-03 Thread Sergey Alembekov
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 03:41:08PM +1000, nickd wrote:
 Worst case scenario, you might be able to create a backup of your rootfs 
 (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U backup_rootfs.jffs) and mount the image on 
 loopback [1] and transfer your home directory back onto your Freerunner.
Thank you for help, but unfortunately thereis known bug in dfu-util and
becouse of it i can not do a backup.

-- 
Regards, Sergey Alembekov
ALTLinux Team
xmpp: rt at jabber.ru

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Re: rescue my freerunner

2008-10-03 Thread David Pottage

On Fri, October 3, 2008 9:20 am, Sergey Alembekov wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 03:41:08PM +1000, nickd wrote:
 Worst case scenario, you might be able to create a backup of your rootfs
 (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U backup_rootfs.jffs) and mount the image on
 loopback [1] and transfer your home directory back onto your Freerunner.
 Thank you for help, but unfortunately thereis known bug in dfu-util and
 becouse of it i can not do a backup.

How about preparing a MicoSD card with fresh copy of your preferred distro
on it. (ASU/Debian/etc), boot from that and then mount the rootfs and
either fix the offending files or take a copy of your data.

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Re: [2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Alex Osborne
Helo Arigead,

Arigead wrote:
 Does anybody have an opinion 
 that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various 
 apps I'm assuming that it's something core.
   
When it locks up, does the device stop responding to ping over USB?  
That would indicate the whole kernel is getting messed up by the lock ups.

 Would the debug board enable me to get to the bottom 
 of this? 
It would probably help to some extent.  You could see the kernel 
messages over the serial console and potentially even inspect what the 
CPU is doing when it hangs over JTAG.  Although if it's a hardware 
fault, which seems likely if nobody else seems to be experiencing random 
lockups, I guess it could be really hard to diagnose even with the debug 
board.
 Will somebody 
 please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list
   
Your mails are getting to the list.  See for example:

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/10/1/3465464

Cheers,

Alex

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Davide Scaini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ekiga? did you tryed that on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 so curious!
 
 I haven't, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work. It doesn't do IAX
 though, only SIP. And sip is problematic behind a NAT firewall.

Use an outbound proxy like siproxd and the problems go away.

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Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-03 Thread Andy Green
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Matthew Lane wrote:
 I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
 I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
 doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
 kernel would be fine.

Without a debug board it's hard to know why you panicked, but the most
common reason is unable to mount the rootfs.  That can be because of
U-Boot kernel commandline is wrong somehow, the contents of the rootfs
are broken or incomplete, or if the rootfs is on SD card it failed to
get recognized properly, etc.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)


Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
That would be great for me!
Where did you get this kernel?

Franky
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Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4

2008-10-03 Thread joakim
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I previously posted a note that the actual 0.4 package misses quite some
 icons. So to get it to work you just have to put the missing icons back
 to /usr/share/pixmaps/openmoko-panel-plugins.
 You can get the icons from
 http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4.orig.tar.gz

 It misses the following icons:
 brightness.png
 usb_drive.png
 usb_host.png
 usb_net.png
 gsm_000.png
 gsm_020.png
 gsm_040.png
 gsm_060.png
 gsm_080.png
 gsm_100.png

My .deb doesnt appear to miss these icons, except brightness.png.
I cant find the brightness.png file in the src tgz.


 Ciao,
  Rainer

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sebastian Ohl
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Im having difficulty getting this working. Version 0.3 worked briefly.
 Any chance of a new deb?
 
 Hi gents,

 some words of what this is(as it produced some confusion last time:
 The openmoko-panel-plugin is a gtk based plugin that draws the
 powerstate of some FR hardware devices(i.e. gsm, gps) to a gtk based
 panel. theses panels are used i.e. in xfce4. so you can enable or
 disable the state of your gps receiver.

 See a screenshot here: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel.png

 i just uploaded a new release (0.4) to my server. it can be downloaded
 from:
 http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1_all.debhttp://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1_amd64.changes
  
 http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1.diff.gzhttp://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4-1.dsc
  http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4.orig.tar.gz
 Changelog:
   * fixed many debianizing errors. 
   * adding more dependencies
   * fixed problems with different versions on my laptop :-(
   * the menu entry should reappear
   * click opens a context menu to toggle the powerstate
   * removed some icons until they are finaly working

 the credit for the code changed goes to morlac.

 thank you for the big feature requests in the last mails. some of them 
 are already integrated into the code. but the code needs a big cleanup. 
 so please be patient. i think i will need a weekend to integrate all your 
 suggestions *g*  

 Cu
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Hire

Very nice! Good work :)

I will try it today :)

PS: Ciao, so che sei italiano :D
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)


 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!
 Where did you get this kernel?


never mind, I found the kernel :-)
But are the mentioned issues really resolved?

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Re: [debian] Evince works and is nice for ebooks

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
| No, you do it, I pay for the product, you earn, and then show what a
class act you are:

Dear Nishit, I have to correct you:

the correct relation is:

I pay for the product, you earn, I use your product, you make it nice
to me, I pay for the new version, you close the platform, I pay to
access the framework, you open a store to sell the application, I pay
for the application, you install a root kit that can remove the
applications you don't want...
Guess which phone there is in you mint?

Nishit, I think you are in good intentions: Not all people know how it
run in a open development. It don't run, I pay for a program that must
to run perfect.
It is a more complex process, that has some very good points and some
weak points. Is not the solutions of all the needs.

With the price of the phone you payed the hardware, personally I think
a very good hardware. If you want to confront the Open Source
Community with a propretary software firm, you are in a wrong
direction.

I hope I helped to clear it.
Best regards
Michele Renda

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread gromez
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
 (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
 except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
 from USB.
 Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)

 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!

Well, these problems are not kernel related so there are still present :(

 Where did you get this kernel?

Here: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=91

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Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4

2008-10-03 Thread arne anka
 My .deb doesnt appear to miss these icons, except brightness.png.
 I cant find the brightness.png file in the src tgz.

now that you mention it -- wifi is not shown.
i get the brightness dialog randomly and though it was a second  
functionality of the battery icon ...

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Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable

2008-10-03 Thread joakim
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As much as I love my FR, I must admit that the whole experience had  
 me thinking lustful thoughts about my wife's iPhone...


 I would say just get an iPhone.  I did.  Its much more fun to develop  
 for a *platform* rather than a constant dogs-breakfast of disaster.   
 Until someone in the Freerunner world turns the thing into a stable  
 platform, its just going to go on and on forever with nothing ever  
 being fixed, stably, and dependably.

 I mean, give me a break.  Its October, and people are *still*  
 wrestling with WLAN configuration.  Can you hackers not see how stupid  
 it is to be fussing with 'pretty stuff' when the most basic things  
 don't even work?

 I've given up on Freerunner development.  Until there is a stable  
 image that provides an Operating System (what we have now: Inoperable)  
 its just not worth the fuss.  The Freerunner project has been  
 murdered, in my opinion, by hobby horsing hackers who have nothing but  
 hatred for the end users that *could* be using the thing.

Just to add some perspective, for my intended applications the iPh*ne is
not an option. On the other hand, any suitable open handheld gnu/linux
device with gps and phone hardware would work. If competing hardware
forfilling these requirements showed up, I could easily switch hardware.


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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
 I think you



I think I lost a part of the message :)

I think you are totally right... I do a lot of D-Bus call, when I show
a page I do a lot of call to Dbus... I will change it to do how you
say. I think in this way we can optimize a lot the startup time :)

Thank you a lot for the hint!
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Re: Is it bottle neck in X or the kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Kishore wrote:
 My question here is: Is it X or is it the kernel that is the weak link that 
 sometimes make the FR painfully slow to operate?

In my experience neither. It is usually some process hogging the CPU for 
no apparent reason. Which one varies depending on image, version etc.

 I now have qtextended 4.4.1 installed with the 4.3.2 release's kernel and the 
 UI is really fast! When i first flashed 4.4.1 rootfs, i still had the kernel 
 from FDOM and while the UI was first on first boot it became slow over time. 
 FDOM was slow from the start.
 
 Debian with XFCE OTOH was pretty fast and the change in kernel for qtextended 
 made significant difference so i am thinking the slowness is likely kernel 
 related.
 
 Now with qtextended i still have a somewhat flaky audio playback. I have not 
 tried video!
 
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Re: [Debian] Still no resume

2008-10-03 Thread Sander van Grieken
 2008/10/1 Sven Bretfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Suspend is broken again in the latest fso kernels. But with the latest
  openmoko kernel suspend works. But zhone is reacting a bit weird after
  resuming. ;)


 Do you know if they are different kernels, or different version of the same
 kernel tree?

the latter. FSO has not yet bumped its SRCREV to point to the latest patch that 
fixes
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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Devendra Gera
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tried the latest mwester stable kernel
  (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK
  except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR
  from USB.
  Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :)
 
 
 Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call?
 That would be great for me!
 Where did you get this kernel?

Well I have no issues as far as echoes and duplicate missed calls. I'm
using the kernel from the 4.3.2 release. I do hear a small audio
effect (like loud static which does down - quite tonefully, I must
add) whenever a call ends. I can live with the unintended call end
indicator.

Problems that I do have :

* WiFi - connects and is usable, but makes the interface really slow
  after a while. Then causes freezes. I'm using WPA-PSK-TKIP btw.
* The aux red LED keeps on glowing even after I disconnect the USB
  cable. I can get it to behave as expected by playing around with
  repeated inserts of the cable. One of those times, it behaves
  correctly. I wouldn't call it a fix or even a workaround though. It's
  more of a buggy bug.
* Missing zoneinfos. I'll try the updated image today.

I haven't tried setting up my GPRS yet.

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Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-03 Thread Hire



Neil Jerram wrote:
 
 2008/10/2 Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 and what about the boot speed-up script: is that useful?
 
 Sorry, I haven't tried that, so can't say.
 
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I have used the install.sh
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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 1.) You need the alsa state for voip handset. Can be got here: 
 
 http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk//src/target/audio/om-gta02/
 
 This goes in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/
 load it with the command :
 
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore

About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
only in the earpiece?
If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
main speaker!

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Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-03 Thread Davide Scaini
give a look to the wiki debian on fr or in the list to the thread Debian
installer internal error of Matthias Camenzind... quoting form the last:
thanks for trying out Debian. I quote the FAQ from
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner:

During the debian stage of the install, what does E: Internal error:
install mean and how do I fix it?

 * One possible cause is a problem with the armel packages in
   Debian. Check /mnt/debian/var/log/bootstrap.log for dependency
   problems or the like.

 * If corrupt packages appear, then it might be related to the
   microSD card used in the installation, as explained in the
   discussion at the smartphones-standards. Other information are
   available in the upstream bug.

So please check the bootstrap.log, it might help you on.

Greetings,
Joachim


personally I think that the part about modifying the uboot is hard to
understand, but I hope to not have problems during my installation ;-) i'm
waiting for my SD ;-)
hope this helps,
d


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  Sorry, I haven't tried that, so can't say.
 
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Re: [2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Arigead
Alex Osborne wrote:
 Helo Arigead,

 Arigead wrote:
   
 Does anybody have an opinion 
 that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various 
 apps I'm assuming that it's something core.
   
 
 When it locks up, does the device stop responding to ping over USB?  
 That would indicate the whole kernel is getting messed up by the lock ups.

   
 Would the debug board enable me to get to the bottom 
 of this? 
 
 It would probably help to some extent.  You could see the kernel 
 messages over the serial console and potentially even inspect what the 
 CPU is doing when it hangs over JTAG.  Although if it's a hardware 
 fault, which seems likely if nobody else seems to be experiencing random 
 lockups, I guess it could be really hard to diagnose even with the debug 
 board.
   
 Will somebody 
 please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list
   
 
 Your mails are getting to the list.  See for example:

 http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/10/1/3465464

 Cheers,

 Alex
   
Thanks Alex,
I do think it's most likely a HW problem as it's happening in all the 
Distros. Well I've not really tried with Qtopia to much, would prefer to 
be using [ASU] or [FSO]. Having said that if I tried Qtopia and it locks 
then it would suggest it's HW.

Anyhow perhaps the only way to go is to get the development board. Even 
if it is a HW problem it's locking the SW somewhere. I'll try Qtopia 
over the weekend and try build a SW Image for the FR. I've never built 
the entire system but I might try and see if I can put in a few 
judicious Printf's. Problem with printf's or logging is that the code 
might have passed the printf and lock 20 odd instructions later and 
you'd not see the printout, depending on the implementation. I don't 
know how logging is implemented but I'll have a look.

Thanks again for getting back to me. Don't know whether to invest more 
money in the debug board or try get a replacement. It is a challenge 
though :-)

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 1.) You need the alsa state for voip handset. Can be got here: 

 http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk//src/target/audio/om-gta02/

 This goes in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/
 load it with the command :

 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 
 About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
 only in the earpiece?
 If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
 main speaker!
 

I just checked the file and it is clearly wrong as it says:

control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
value.0 127
value.1 127
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}

This will do as you say since control.3 is for the headset/speaker, and 
control.4 for the handset earpiece. I don't know if this is the result 
of someone committing an old file or what.


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Re: [2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Arigead wrote:
 Alex Osborne wrote:
 Helo Arigead,

 Arigead wrote:
   
 Does anybody have an opinion 
 that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various 
 apps I'm assuming that it's something core.
   
 
 When it locks up, does the device stop responding to ping over USB?  
 That would indicate the whole kernel is getting messed up by the lock ups.

   
 Would the debug board enable me to get to the bottom 
 of this? 
 
 It would probably help to some extent.  You could see the kernel 
 messages over the serial console and potentially even inspect what the 
 CPU is doing when it hangs over JTAG.  Although if it's a hardware 
 fault, which seems likely if nobody else seems to be experiencing random 
 lockups, I guess it could be really hard to diagnose even with the debug 
 board.
   
 Will somebody 
 please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list
   
 
 Your mails are getting to the list.  See for example:

 http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/10/1/3465464

 Cheers,

 Alex
   
 Thanks Alex,
 I do think it's most likely a HW problem as it's happening in all the 
 Distros. Well I've not really tried with Qtopia to much, would prefer to 
 be using [ASU] or [FSO]. Having said that if I tried Qtopia and it locks 
 then it would suggest it's HW.
 
 Anyhow perhaps the only way to go is to get the development board. Even 
 if it is a HW problem it's locking the SW somewhere. I'll try Qtopia 
 over the weekend and try build a SW Image for the FR. I've never built 
 the entire system but I might try and see if I can put in a few 
 judicious Printf's. Problem with printf's or logging is that the code 
 might have passed the printf and lock 20 odd instructions later and 
 you'd not see the printout, depending on the implementation. I don't 
 know how logging is implemented but I'll have a look.
 
 Thanks again for getting back to me. Don't know whether to invest more 
 money in the debug board or try get a replacement. It is a challenge 
 though :-)

It might be worth trying rootfs on the uSD to see if the problem is with 
the internal flash. You may also be able to find someone near you who 
has a debug board.

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Alastair Johnson wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
 only in the earpiece?
 If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
 main speaker!

 
 I just checked the file and it is clearly wrong as it says:
 
   control.3 {
   comment.access 'read write'
   comment.type INTEGER
   comment.count 2
   comment.range '0 - 127'
   iface MIXER
   name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
   value.0 127
   value.1 127
   }
   control.4 {
   comment.access 'read write'
   comment.type INTEGER
   comment.count 2
   comment.range '0 - 127'
   iface MIXER
   name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
   value.0 0
   value.1 0
   }
 
 This will do as you say since control.3 is for the headset/speaker, and 
 control.4 for the handset earpiece. I don't know if this is the result 
 of someone committing an old file or what.

Ok, the problem is that if I invert the values I heard voice in the
earpiece, but I continue hearing it also in the main speaker!
It's really annoying! :|

Anyone got it working correctly? In this situation VoIP is not usable... :(

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Vince M. Clark
Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected even 
though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: 
Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
Retry:on 
Encryption key:off 
Power Management:off 
Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan 
eth0 Scan completed : 
Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
ESSID:linksys 
Mode:Master 
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) 
Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm 
Encryption key:off 
Extra:bcn_int=100 



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From: Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:00:18 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 


eth0 definitely has no address. I'll check iwconfig. 

- Original Message - 
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:55:46 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 

Vince M. Clark wrote: 
 If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is 
 eth0, lo, and usb0. 

The wifi is eth0. Is there an address associated with it there? Also 
check the output of iwconfig. If it has associated the AP then it 
should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP. 

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Where is the SD card...

2008-10-03 Thread Paul
I have so far successfully gotten things to work (phone works again
after reboot), ssh works and all that.

I just can't figure out which device is the SD card (I want to put
Qtopia on that).

The devices I see are:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# ls
MAKEDEV kmemmtd5
ram ram9tty4
XOR kmsgmtd5ro
ram0ramdisk ttySAC0
adsplog mtd6
ram1random  ttySAC1
apm_biosloopmtd6ro
ram10   rtc ttySAC2
audio   mem mtdblock0
ram11   rtc0udev_network_queue
bus mixer   mtdblock1
ram12   shm urandom
console mtd0mtdblock2
ram13   snd usbdev1.1
coremtd0ro  mtdblock3
ram14   sndstat usbdev1.1_ep00
dsp mtd1mtdblock4
ram15   stderr  usbdev1.1_ep81
fb  mtd1ro  mtdblock5
ram2stdin   vcs
fb0 mtd2mtdblock6
ram3stdout  vcs1
fd  mtd2ro  net
ram4tty vcs3
fullmtd3null
ram5tty0vcsa
i2c-0   mtd3ro  ppp
ram6tty1vcsa1
initctl mtd4ptmx
ram7tty2vcsa3
input   mtd4ro  pts
ram8tty3zero
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev#

Nothing looks anywhere like /dev/mmcblk0 as the wiki says, and also
dmesg isn't much help.

Or would it be mtdblock0?

Thanks for clues and pointers!

Paul

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Alastair Johnson wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
 only in the earpiece?
 If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
 main speaker!

 I just checked the file and it is clearly wrong as it says:

  control.3 {
  comment.access 'read write'
  comment.type INTEGER
  comment.count 2
  comment.range '0 - 127'
  iface MIXER
  name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
  value.0 127
  value.1 127
  }
  control.4 {
  comment.access 'read write'
  comment.type INTEGER
  comment.count 2
  comment.range '0 - 127'
  iface MIXER
  name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
  value.0 0
  value.1 0
  }

 This will do as you say since control.3 is for the headset/speaker, and 
 control.4 for the handset earpiece. I don't know if this is the result 
 of someone committing an old file or what.
 
 Ok, the problem is that if I invert the values I heard voice in the
 earpiece, but I continue hearing it also in the main speaker!
 It's really annoying! :|

I'm surprised unless it's a small amount of bleedthrough. Setting both 
channels of control.3 to 0 should silence it. This should silence the 
speaker entirely:

 control.94 {
 comment.access 'read write'
 comment.type BOOLEAN
 comment.count 1
 iface MIXER
 name 'Amp Spk Switch'
 value false
 }


 Anyone got it working correctly? In this situation VoIP is not usable... :(

See:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
This points to http://www.koolu.org/voip-handset.state which I have used 
successfully with the CLI version of linphone compiled using 
mokomakefile a while back. FDOM currently has a more recent linphone 
with GUI and presumably a working voip-handset.state too.

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Re: Where is the SD card...

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Paul wrote:
 I have so far successfully gotten things to work (phone works again
 after reboot), ssh works and all that.
 
 I just can't figure out which device is the SD card (I want to put
 Qtopia on that).
 
 The devices I see are:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# ls
 MAKEDEV kmemmtd5
 ram ram9tty4
 XOR kmsgmtd5ro
 ram0ramdisk ttySAC0
 adsplog mtd6
 ram1random  ttySAC1
 apm_biosloopmtd6ro
 ram10   rtc ttySAC2
 audio   mem mtdblock0
 ram11   rtc0udev_network_queue
 bus mixer   mtdblock1
 ram12   shm urandom
 console mtd0mtdblock2
 ram13   snd usbdev1.1
 coremtd0ro  mtdblock3
 ram14   sndstat usbdev1.1_ep00
 dsp mtd1mtdblock4
 ram15   stderr  usbdev1.1_ep81
 fb  mtd1ro  mtdblock5
 ram2stdin   vcs
 fb0 mtd2mtdblock6
 ram3stdout  vcs1
 fd  mtd2ro  net
 ram4tty vcs3
 fullmtd3null
 ram5tty0vcsa
 i2c-0   mtd3ro  ppp
 ram6tty1vcsa1
 initctl mtd4ptmx
 ram7tty2vcsa3
 input   mtd4ro  pts
 ram8tty3zero
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev#
 
 Nothing looks anywhere like /dev/mmcblk0 as the wiki says, and also
 dmesg isn't much help.

/dev/mmcblk0 is correct. If you can't see it your card hasn't been 
detected for some reason. dmesg or the output of logread just after boot 
should give some indication as to what's going on.

 Or would it be mtdblock0?

NO!!! That's part of the internal flash.

 Thanks for clues and pointers!
 
 Paul
 

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Alastair Johnson ha scritto:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Alastair Johnson wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
 only in the earpiece?
 If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
 main speaker!

 This will do as you say since control.3 is for the headset/speaker, and 
 control.4 for the handset earpiece. I don't know if this is the result 
 of someone committing an old file or what.
 Ok, the problem is that if I invert the values I heard voice in the
 earpiece, but I continue hearing it also in the main speaker!
 It's really annoying! :|
 
 I'm surprised unless it's a small amount of bleedthrough. Setting both 
 channels of control.3 to 0 should silence it. This should silence the 
 speaker entirely:
 
  control.94 {
  comment.access 'read write'
  comment.type BOOLEAN
  comment.count 1
  iface MIXER
  name 'Amp Spk Switch'
  value false
  }
 
 
 Anyone got it working correctly? In this situation VoIP is not usable... :(
 
 See:
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
 This points to http://www.koolu.org/voip-handset.state which I have used 
 successfully with the CLI version of linphone compiled using 
 mokomakefile a while back. FDOM currently has a more recent linphone 
 with GUI and presumably a working voip-handset.state too.

Thanks. Now it finally work. I had already tried that state file from
koolu but I wasn't able to make it work! :o
After the edit you suggested me the incoming audio works well. I'm using
linphone 2.1.1 with a gui too, I compiled it long time ago, but I always
had this kind of problem!

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Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-03 Thread Hire

Now I get:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  zhone-session: Depends: fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

Why?
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Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-03 Thread Davide Scaini
(do you managed to follow the instructions? if you have hints for the wiki,
please tell us!)
I have no idea... i'm sorry. hoping for an answer from those who are in with
debian.
d

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now I get:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  zhone-session: Depends: fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed
 E: Broken packages

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Alastair Johnson
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Alastair Johnson ha scritto:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Alastair Johnson wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 TL Mieszkowski wrote:
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 About this, using this alsa control file, can you get the caller voice
 only in the earpiece?
 If I use it in a Om2008 I get the voice both in the earpiece and in the
 main speaker!

 This will do as you say since control.3 is for the headset/speaker, and 
 control.4 for the handset earpiece. I don't know if this is the result 
 of someone committing an old file or what.
 Ok, the problem is that if I invert the values I heard voice in the
 earpiece, but I continue hearing it also in the main speaker!
 It's really annoying! :|
 I'm surprised unless it's a small amount of bleedthrough. Setting both 
 channels of control.3 to 0 should silence it. This should silence the 
 speaker entirely:

  control.94 {
  comment.access 'read write'
  comment.type BOOLEAN
  comment.count 1
  iface MIXER
  name 'Amp Spk Switch'
  value false
  }


 Anyone got it working correctly? In this situation VoIP is not usable... :(
 See:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
 This points to http://www.koolu.org/voip-handset.state which I have used 
 successfully with the CLI version of linphone compiled using 
 mokomakefile a while back. FDOM currently has a more recent linphone 
 with GUI and presumably a working voip-handset.state too.
 
 Thanks. Now it finally work. I had already tried that state file from
 koolu but I wasn't able to make it work! :o
 After the edit you suggested me the incoming audio works well. I'm using
 linphone 2.1.1 with a gui too, I compiled it long time ago, but I always
 had this kind of problem!

Was it you who mentioned having patched linphone to switch alsa states , 
and to tweak the GUI to fit the screen better?

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Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Annika Thiel
Hi!

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I switched a setting to make the menus do the wheel thing (didn't realize
 what I was doing when I selected it) and now I cannot select anything.
 Touchscreen doesn't respond to selection on the wheel. So now I can't get to
 settings, apps, etc. Guess I'll re-flash.


You can set it back by calling the programm directly from ssh. You
just need this command:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/lib
/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin/serverwidgets

Regards,

Anni


 While I was able to get to apps I don't recall seeing the webkit browser or
 a GPS app. Am I missing something?

 I agree, not quite stable yet.

 - Original Message -
 From: Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 2:03:01 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
 Subject: Re: Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

 On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:08:55 +0530
 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 02 Oct 2008 11:53:46 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
 
  Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i
   presume if you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go.
  
   unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's
   called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an
   accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways.
 
  hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one,
  too many bugs (old and new):
 
  - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
  uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
  previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
  - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
  in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
  - echo problem is back
  - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
  - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show
  up as missed
 
  The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I
  thought it was going to be 4.4.3?

 Yup! I have all of those issues you mention. Anyway, USB networking
 is now working after i flashed mwester kernel. I am able to ssh but i
 cannot connect to the internet. ping google.com gives me ping: bad
 address 'google.com'.

 I checked /etc/resolv.conf and it is empty.

 Fix the resolv issue by putting the line nameserver A.B.C.D in
 your /etc/resolv.conf (A.B.C.D being the IP of your own nameserver).
 Always needed for usb connections.
 But still ... too many issues found in 2 minutes of testing for this to
 be stable.

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Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-03 Thread Hire

Don't worry, here the solution :)

http://dgym.homeunix.net/projects/freerunner/debian-install/
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[Om2008.9] stored PIN for qpe

2008-10-03 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Is it somehow possible to feed the PIN from a file in rootfs into the
PIN dialog of 'qpe'? Thx

I know it's not very secure, but normal people will not know how to read
files in a FR :-)

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is fr usb host mode prone to damage from regular usb charging

2008-10-03 Thread Petr Vanek
I haven't found a clear answer on this one:

i got A-A Female to Female usb connector to couple two cables.

The wiki pages [1], [2] provide sufficient info on usage, except of one
thing: if i switch into USB Host mode providing power (*) can i damage
anything if i forget it like that and replug my fr into my computer?

thank you
Petr

*
echo host  /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode
echo 1  /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host
[2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host_Mode


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GPS Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Christian Weßel
Hi folks,

who has an external GPS antenna operating successfull with FR?

Which brand?
Where to get?

I check the first one without success, so I need to look for a fit one.


Keep on moko, christian

Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 09:30 -0600 schrieb -stacy:
 Christian Weßel wrote:
  I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements
  about it:
  
  http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 
 I don't speak German, but I don't see a lot of technical details on that 
 page; active antenna, magnetic, 5m cable. That is not a lot of 
 information to go on. The key piece of information that seems to be 
 missing is the voltage requirements for the antenna. Another important 
 piece of information would be the signal gain.
 
 As far as I know, the freerunner supplies 3 volts to the antenna. I have 
 seen a lot of inexpensive antennae that will work with any voltage 
 between 1.8V and 5V but I have also seen others that will only work with 5V.
 
 I am cautious with ebay sellers who don't put basic technical 
 information in the descriptions (unless they have a precise part #
 and I know what the specs are. in that case I don't care if the seller 
 knows :-)
 
 -stacy
 
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[FSO] losetup trouble

2008-10-03 Thread rhn
Hi
I've encountered trouble trying to create a loopback device to use with 
usb_storage module instead of the card.
Here are my problems:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# losetup /dev/loop0 bigfile 
losetup: /dev/loop0: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# touch /dev/loop0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# losetup /dev/loop0 bigfile 
losetup: /dev/loop0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# ls -l /dev/loop0
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Oct  3 16:31 /dev/loop0


bigfile is the file I wanted to mount.
I also tried to mknod /dev/loop0 with the major and minor guessed from the 
desktop's ones:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# mknod /dev/loop2 b 7 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# losetup /dev/loop2 bigfile 
losetup: /dev/loop2: No such device or address


What can be done about it? Or maybe some usb storage module supports exposing 
directories instead of devices?

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Re: Where is the SD card...

2008-10-03 Thread Paul
Hello Alastair

 /dev/mmcblk0 is correct. If you can't see it your card hasn't been 
 detected for some reason. dmesg or the output of logread just after boot 
 should give some indication as to what's going on.
   

I reseated the card, the proper device now shows. Thanks for the tip. 
Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR 
can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-)  Always 
more fun.

 Or would it be mtdblock0?
 

 NO!!! That's part of the internal flash.
   

I suspected something like that, so I did not touch it.

Thank you.

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Re: rescue my freerunner

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
David Pottage wrote:
 On Fri, October 3, 2008 9:20 am, Sergey Alembekov wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 03:41:08PM +1000, nickd wrote:
 Worst case scenario, you might be able to create a backup of your rootfs
 (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U backup_rootfs.jffs) and mount the image on
 loopback [1] and transfer your home directory back onto your Freerunner.
 Thank you for help, but unfortunately thereis known bug in dfu-util and
 becouse of it i can not do a backup.
 
 How about preparing a MicoSD card with fresh copy of your preferred distro
 on it. (ASU/Debian/etc), boot from that and then mount the rootfs and
 either fix the offending files or take a copy of your data.
 


Good idea.

If your computer doesn't have an SD slot, you can buy an inexpensive USB 
to SDcard adapter. This is what I use and it's been fine.

(when you say it's stuck while booting, how long did you wait? IIRC 
there is a network related task which will eventually time out, but it 
does take quite a long time.)

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Re: voip on Debian

2008-10-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Alastair Johnson ha scritto:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Was it you who mentioned having patched linphone to switch alsa states , 
 and to tweak the GUI to fit the screen better?

Yes I was, but my work isn't complete yet :P

Unfortunately I've to write my bits in too many places... :|

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Re: GPS Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Brian Wilson
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 who has an external GPS antenna operating successfull with FR?

 Which brand? Where to get?

 I check the first one without success, so I need to look for a fit one.

I listed the one that I got from Semsons in the antenna wiki page
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/External_GPS_antennas#Semsons_external_antenna
(Please add your own information to this page)

Here is a direct link: http://www.semsons.com/gps90deexboa.html

I tested one from Semsons (in California) rather than Ebay so that
other people could get the same model if they wanted one. I have no
connection with Semsons other than being a satisfied customer. Semsons
has pretty good specs on their equipment so I was able to choose one
that worked on the first try and it was only US$11.

I don't know if Semsons ships out of US, If you don't want to order
from them I suggest that you look at the specs for that antenna and
then find a similar model from a reputable vendor closer to your home
instead of ordering something from random Ebay sellers. You aren't
saving any money buying equipment you can't use.

Brian

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Re: [2008.9] Wifi now reliable

2008-10-03 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 03, 2008 a las 12:28:37PM +0530, Nishit Dave escribió:

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  Nishit,
 
  The company that sold you your Freerunner offered you refund, already.
 
  I assumed that you would take this, leave the list and STOP FUCKING
  WHINING.
 
  I guess this was too much for me to hope for, huh?
 
  Dude, I will decide what to say, till the time I return the FR, if I decide
 to do so.  If you don't like what I say, complain to the list maintainers.
 Otherwise, hold your tongue or come up with a solution.
 
 I have showed my commitment to a cause by putting my money where my mouth
 is, and I didn't do it because I wanted to hop on to the embedded linux
 shebang.  If I feel that I have been let down, I have every right to say
 so.  Refunds do not make up for lost time.

I own the FR gadget now for 2-3 weeks, I think, and I'm so happy with it
and I use it in daily work as I did with my normal cellphone, a BenQ
Siemens S68, which I have returned already because I think the FR is
stable enough for me;

I can do what I want with it:

- I can SSH to the Linux and install or change what I feel fitting for
  me or missing there;
- for me Wifi works now as it should;
- for me GPRS and PPPD together with my smaller laptop (a eeePC 900 on
  which I have installed FreeBSD 7.0) let me go to Internet; I can use
  the FR like a normal router box to Internet;

and

- I can even make phone calls and write SMS to my love

What do I need more at the moment?

Ofc, there are things to solve, for exmaple the power/duration of the
batery; I've bought an original 2nd one to not fall into the 'dead
battery' pitfall; and I've ordered the Minty kit to build one based on
AA batteries; ofc, there is a lot of other stuff todo or build; but this
belongs already to 'it would be nice if also ...';

So, if someone wants a cellphone like all teenies have them, one from
Nokia or Ericson, with a camara to take pictures in the subway, well
just go for it and buy it; if not stop screaming and make use of what
you have and see what we could do;

just my honest thoughts about;

matthias

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Re: [2008.9] Wifi now reliable

2008-10-03 Thread Charles Pax
On 10/3/08, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I own the FR gadget now for 2-3 weeks, I think, and I'm so happy with it
 and I use it in daily work as I did with my normal cellphone, a BenQ
 Siemens S68, which I have returned already because I think the FR is
 stable enough for me;

 I can do what I want with it:

 - I can SSH to the Linux and install or change what I feel fitting for
 me or missing there;
 - for me Wifi works now as it should;
 - for me GPRS and PPPD together with my smaller laptop (a eeePC 900 on
 which I have installed FreeBSD 7.0) let me go to Internet; I can use
 the FR like a normal router box to Internet;

 and

 - I can even make phone calls and write SMS to my love


Thanks for sharing your experience. Can you write a little about what
distrobution you're using and what problems you had to overcome to get
things working the way you want?




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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-03 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi,

her are my results after a fresh flash with the latest uimage and
rootfs from qt:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:16:45 +1000
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using
  uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the
  previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue?
 
 yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended.

using the new uimage, these are gone
 
  - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
  in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 hmmm...
 indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image.
 
  - echo problem is back
 
 odd.

using the new uimage, this still seems to be a problem
 
  - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze

this also no longer happens. But the issue of the alarm not sounding on
time after suspend still remains (the alarm is on time only once, after
a fresh reboot, all subsequent alarms seem to drift off in time when
the phone is suspended)

  - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show
  up as missed
 
 also odd. I haven't seen this.

after a dialer crash and some reboots, this no longer is the case. But
now, at the end of each call, the call-volume setting window pops up
briefly, with the sound setting/noice.

Franky

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Greg Bonett
hmm... It seems like I'm not able to enter the full username in the GPRS
settings.  The username I'm trying to use is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but only
[EMAIL PROTECTED] fits.

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Qt extended 4.4 on X11

2008-10-03 Thread Adrien de Sentenac
Hello,
are there plans for ASU to use Qt extended (Qtopia) 4.4 ?
I've seen there is a number of bug related to qtopia tools in the call
for community action, and I am willing to try to fix some of these,
but I was wondering if it wouldn't be a better idea to work on the 4.4
version of those tools.
Regards,
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Re: How to build qt-extended?

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Nicola Mfb wrote:
 2008/10/3 Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It is activated in the released image. At least I can set the
 encryption on my email account.
 
 
 I just downloaded the updated toolchains, but the problem persist:

Looks like it configured in ssl to me:

 Configuring Qt Extended (expanded commandline):
 -using-device neo -ui-type mobile -dynamic-rotation -ssl -dbus -libamr


 OpenSSL support . yes (run-time)




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Re: [Om2008.9] stored PIN for qpe

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is it somehow possible to feed the PIN from a file in rootfs into the
 PIN dialog of 'qpe'? Thx

nope. But the sources are available you could patch it to do this.


 I know it's not very secure, but normal people will not know how to read
 files in a FR :-)
 
   matthias

If you don't want sim pin, you can 'disable' it, from the Security 
settings app.



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[u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command

2008-10-03 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey,

I'm having trouble booting my neo.  I can get into NOR flash, and NAND 
flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command.  
This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm 
command.

I have grabbed the latest u-boot from:
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors.

My flash image is currently the FDOM image.  I was attempting to install 
debian on my uSD.  I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a 
script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and 
proceeded to install debian.  The process halted after partitioning, 
which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to 
booting.  After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors.

I currently cannot boot into anything.  I can log into NOR (which seems 
fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option).

Thanks!


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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread vale

great program,

working fine as far as i tested :)

display brightness change is great and also gps :)

thanks for your work!




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Re: [2008.9] Wifi now reliable

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
Charles Pax wrote:
 
 
 On 10/3/08, *Matthias Apitz* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I own the FR gadget now for 2-3 weeks, I think, and I'm so happy with it
 and I use it in daily work as I did with my normal cellphone, a BenQ
 Siemens S68, which I have returned already because I think the FR is
 stable enough for me;
 
 I can do what I want with it:
 
 - I can SSH to the Linux and install or change what I feel fitting for
 me or missing there;
 - for me Wifi works now as it should;
 - for me GPRS and PPPD together with my smaller laptop (a eeePC 900 on
 which I have installed FreeBSD 7.0) let me go to Internet; I can use
 the FR like a normal router box to Internet;

Very glad to hear of your success.

What kind of access point are you using, and what kind of encryption or 
security are you using with it?

Thanks,
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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card:

iwconfig eth0 essid linksys

Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think 
there is a bug that one letter keys don't work.

If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that 
you set the key before the ID thus:

iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys

Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly

Michael

Vince M. Clark wrote:
   Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected 
 even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
 eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID: 
   Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=0 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3 
   Retry:on  
   Encryption key:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality:0/94  Signal level:-95 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan
 eth0  Scan completed :
   Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41
 ESSID:linksys
 Mode:Master
 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
 Quality=15/94  Signal level=-80 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
 Encryption key:off
 Extra:bcn_int=100
 



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Re: Qt extended 4.4 on X11

2008-10-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Adrien de Sentenac wrote:
 are there plans for ASU to use Qt extended (Qtopia) 4.4 ?
 I've seen there is a number of bug related to qtopia tools in the call
 for community action, and I am willing to try to fix some of these,
 but I was wondering if it wouldn't be a better idea to work on the 4.4
 version of those tools.

According to what I've read in the devel list (I asked something
similar) this version can be ported to X11 too... BTW I don't know if a
porting has been planned, but I figure/hope that it will be.
By the way looking a little to the code there are not so many changes in
the telephony core so working in this shouldn't be so different.


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Re: GPS Antenna

2008-10-03 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 who has an external GPS antenna operating successfull with FR?


I use this one:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/External_GPS_antennas#Haicom_GPS-AHI-101
It works nicely both with my FreeRunner and my 1973.
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Davide Scaini
...waiting for my debian, just a question: do you implemented the profile
feature?
I'm interested in this possibility to fast abilitate/disabilitate
simultaneously wifi/gprs etc...
thanks! (in some days i'll be able to give you some opefully useful
feedback)
davide

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:44 PM, vale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 great program,

 working fine as far as i tested :)

 display brightness change is great and also gps :)

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
Hello

I think you are using still the 0.1 version. It had the 10 digit
limitation. In the 0.2 beta 1 this limitation was removed.

You can find it at:

https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download

Thank you
Michele Renda

Greg Bonett wrote:
 hmm... It seems like I'm not able to enter the full username in the GPRS
 settings.  The username I'm trying to use is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but only
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fits.
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
Thank you

I need to know what you'd like to see. I can't insure that I will
implement it, but I can try to have a look

Regards
Michele Renda

vale wrote:
 great program,
 
 working fine as far as i tested :)
 
 display brightness change is great and also gps :)
 
 thanks for your work!


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Hibernation

2008-10-03 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hi, community!
Will it be possible to hibernate (suspend to sd-card or flash) a
Freerunner in a future?
There are cases when I want my phone to be turned off completely to
save battery, but I don't want to wait 2 minutes next time I will be
powering it up.
Is it possible at all?
Leonti

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Re: is fr usb host mode prone to damage from regular usb charging

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
Petr Vanek wrote:
 I haven't found a clear answer on this one:
 
 i got A-A Female to Female usb connector to couple two cables.
 
 The wiki pages [1], [2] provide sufficient info on usage, except of one
 thing: if i switch into USB Host mode providing power (*) can i damage
 anything if i forget it like that and replug my fr into my computer?


Hi Petr,

This type of question is more appropriate to the kernel list.

I'll go ahead and post it for you there.

Regards,
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
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Davide Scaini wrote:
 ...waiting for my debian, just a question: do you implemented the
 profile feature?

Hello Davide,

It will be nice: it will be nice to have a Airplane profile,
that turn off any Wireless connection (GSM + Buethoot + Wifi), a Home
profile, Work profile ... etc. :)

Thank you
Michele Renda

 I'm interested in this possibility to fast abilitate/disabilitate
 simultaneously wifi/gprs etc...
 thanks! (in some days i'll be able to give you some opefully useful
 feedback)
 davide


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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-03 Thread vale

is there a working deb package around?

couldn't find that one on the italian forum ...

thanks in advance

vale
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duke3d on debian ?

2008-10-03 Thread vale

someone managed to get the duke3d port for the openmoko with accelerometer
usage working with debian?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_3D


i get it started, but cant get trough the menu because the accelerometer
dont seem to be working.

there is no hexdump in debian too ...

thankfull for every info 

vale


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Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-03 Thread Michele Renda
vale wrote:
 is there a working deb package around?
 
 couldn't find that one on the italian forum ...
 
 thanks in advance
 
 vale

that I know... Still not exist. There is the version from the site! just
unpackt and run the compiled file.

Michele Renda

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Re: [2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?

2008-10-03 Thread Steve Mosher
  Probably best to post on the Kernel list.

Arigead wrote:
 Hello all,
 could anybody shed some light on debugging the FR Kernel. I'm 
 getting constant locks of the phone and I'm trying to get to the source 
 of the problem.
 
 Just to go over some stuff that may be important. I did have [2008.9] 
 installed and added some groups to contacts. I then flashed in [FSO] to 
 see if that was any less locky. No luck there so flashed back in 
 [2008.9]. I found I still have some groups that I defined two flashes 
 ago. I didn't expect that. Is there a way to totally wipe the flash to a 
 clear state before I start?
 
 Aside from that starting place I've got [2008.9] installed and nothing 
 else. I've only flashed in the images and opkg installed nothing. So 
 it's a clean [2008.9]
 
 What I'm doing to lock up the phone is opening contacts and adding 
 contacts. I've never managed to add a third contact before the phone 
 locks up. This does not have to be the contacts application at all. I 
 can lock the phone with generally doing anything I've noticed no pattern.
 
 I've changed /etc/syslog.conf so that I'm logging to the uSD card but I 
 can't see a pattern. If I had the debug board would I be able to locate 
 the source of this problem? Can I add:
 
 kern.*-/var/log/kern.log
 
 to syslog.conf to try focus on the kernel. Does anybody have an opinion 
 that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various 
 apps I'm assuming that it's something core.
 
 Nobody has ever responded to email on this subject so either they're not 
 getting through to the list or nobody is interested. Will somebody 
 please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list and nobody is 
 interested in helping me find my FR's problem.
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Vince M. Clark
Network is open and I can see it. I tried manually configuring and it sets the 
essid but doesn't get an IP address. Is there something else I need to do to 
enable dhcp? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID:linksys 
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
Retry:on 
Encryption key:off 
Power Management:off 
Link Quality:179/94 Signal level:-172 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:8 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig eth0 
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8E:E7:AA 
inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8e:e7aa/64 Scope:Link 
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 
RX packets:109829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 
TX packets:14838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
RX bytes:44459303 (42.3 MiB) TX bytes:146338 (142.9 KiB) 


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 1:44:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 

At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card: 

iwconfig eth0 essid linksys 

Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think 
there is a bug that one letter keys don't work. 

If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that 
you set the key before the ID thus: 

iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys 

Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly 

Michael 

Vince M. Clark wrote: 
 Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected 
 even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: 
 Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
 Retry:on 
 Encryption key:off 
 Power Management:off 
 Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan 
 eth0 Scan completed : 
 Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
 ESSID:linksys 
 Mode:Master 
 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) 
 Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm 
 Encryption key:off 
 Extra:bcn_int=100 
 



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Re: Where is the SD card...

2008-10-03 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/3 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR
 can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-)  Always
 more fun.

Sounds like routing.  If you mean over Wifi, and your wireless network
is 192.168.0/24 (as mine is), the routing through eth0 will conflict
with the default route for network-over-USB (usb0).  If that's the
case, you can solve the problem by running ifdown usb0 on the FR.

(Or leave usb0 up, and instead do a route --del command.  Or modify
/etc/network/interfaces so that the USB networking uses a different
network, say 192.168.1/24, and reboot.  I find ifdown easiest.)

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
After you set the ESSID you need to request an IP address via dhcp:

udhcpc eth0

Which is the last line in this command sequence:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN#Manual_attempt

Vince M. Clark wrote:
   Network is open and I can see it. I tried manually configuring and it 
 sets the essid but doesn't get an IP address. Is there something else I 
 need to do to enable dhcp?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
 eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:linksys 
   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 
 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41  
   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3 
   Retry:on  
   Encryption key:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality:179/94  Signal level:-172 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:8
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig eth0
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:12:CF:8E:E7:AA 
   inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8e:e7aa/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:109829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:14838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:44459303 (42.3 MiB)  TX bytes:146338 (142.9 KiB)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 1:44:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
 Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi
 
 At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card:
 
 iwconfig eth0 essid linksys
 
 Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think
 there is a bug that one letter keys don't work.
 
 If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that
 you set the key before the ID thus:
 
 iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys
 
 Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly
 
 Michael
 
 Vince M. Clark wrote:
 Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected
   even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point.
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
   eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:
 Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=0 dBm   
 Sensitivity=0/3
 Retry:on  
 Encryption key:off
 Power Management:off
 Link Quality:0/94  Signal level:-95 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan
   eth0  Scan completed :
 Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41
   ESSID:linksys
   Mode:Master
   Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
   Quality=15/94  Signal level=-80 dBm  Noise 
 level=-95 dBm
   Encryption key:off
   Extra:bcn_int=100
  

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Re: [FDOM] dfu-error -71

2008-10-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/9/27 rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 I've just tried to flash my freerunner with the newest FDOM and ran into a
 problem with dfu-util.
 Long story short, here's the console output:


 I'm having this problem just now with qtopia, the first time i tried as
 normal user i got error 71, the second i tried as root and i got error 84
 !?!?


I tried just now, with a laptop, now the error is -110!
What should i do?

Nicola
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Re: [FDOM] dfu-error -71

2008-10-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/4 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/10/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/9/27 rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 I've just tried to flash my freerunner with the newest FDOM and ran into
 a problem with dfu-util.
 Long story short, here's the console output:


 I'm having this problem just now with qtopia, the first time i tried as
 normal user i got error 71, the second i tried as root and i got error 84
 !?!?


 I tried just now, with a laptop, now the error is -110!
 What should i do?


It's late  :) i forgot -a :)
i was able to flash...

 Nicola
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Re: [FSO] losetup trouble

2008-10-03 Thread Alex Osborne
Hello,

On 04/10/2008, at 2:51 AM, rhn wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# touch /dev/loop0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# losetup /dev/loop0 bigfile
 losetup: /dev/loop0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# ls -l /dev/loop0
 -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Oct  3 16:31 /dev/loop0

I'm surprised losetup didn't complain. There's not much point in  
making loop0 a regular file.  I have not tried usb storage but:

pico:~# ls -la /dev/loop0
brw--- 1 root root 7, 0 Oct  4 12:08 /dev/loop0
pico:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=1k count=1k
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.208113 s, 5.0 MB/s
pico:~# mke2fs foo
mke2fs 1.41.1 (01-Sep-2008)
[...]
pico:~# mkdir /mnt/tmp
pico:~# mount -o loop foo /mnt/tmp/
pico:~# ls -la /mnt/tmp/
total 17
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  1024 Oct  4 12:12 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root  4096 Oct  4 12:12 ..
drwx-- 2 root root 12288 Oct  4 12:12 lost+found
pico:~# mount | grep foo
/root/foo on /mnt/tmp type ext2 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)

I imagine normally /dev/loop* should be created by udev.  The fact  
that it doesn't exist might indicate that you don't have loopback  
device support in your kernel.  Check this:

pico:~# grep loop /proc/devices
   7 loop

If it's not there try modprobe loop.

If it is there, delete your bogus /dev/loop0 and recreate it like this:

mknod /dev/loop0 b 7 0

Cheers,

Alex

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Re: duke3d on debian ?

2008-10-03 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
vale wrote:
 someone managed to get the duke3d port for the openmoko with accelerometer
 usage working with debian?
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_3D

I tried once but it wouldn't resize or rotate (I believe the framebuffer
version of X doesn't allow that)

 i get it started, but cant get trough the menu because the accelerometer
 dont seem to be working.
 
 there is no hexdump in debian too ...

Sure there is:
apt-get install bsdmainutils

If you like I have a version where you use the touchscreen to get
through the menus (I've been hacking at it for a bit)

-- 
Charles-Henri


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Re: duke3d on debian ?

2008-10-03 Thread Alex Osborne

On 04/10/2008, at 12:25 PM, Charles-Henri Gros wrote:


 I tried once but it wouldn't resize or rotate (I believe the  
 framebuffer
 version of X doesn't allow that)

Install the xserver-xglamo package to get the version that can be  
resized and rotated with xrandr.

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WTS: Freerunner North American edition

2008-10-03 Thread Justin Wong
Hello,

Still looking to sell my Freerunner, as I do not have time to develop for it.

It's in great condition, North American 850Hz version. Willing to
negotiate price. I'm in Canada and am willing to ship.

There's more details here.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Classifieds

Cheers!
Justin

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