Hi,
I tried the new version and noticed that directly after the install I
got the interface coming up repeatedly when I plugged/unplugged the FR
in the networking preferences. However, after restart, only the first
time I get the interface coming up connected, upon
unplugging/reconnecting the USB
El día Monday, October 20, 2008 a las 11:20:45AM +1100, Alex Osborne escribió:
Alex Osborne wrote:
Matthias Apitz wrote:
how can I ask for the actual
CPU time of a proc? I was thinking in something like 'cat /proc/5/...'
but have no man pages about the /proc layout :-(
$ man proc
Hello everybody,
welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
issue. The two big news are the launch of opkg.org, an application directory,
and Openmoko engineering team focusing back to the basics on Improving user
experience.
Joel Newkirk a écrit :
When (if) I get my FR where I plan to retain the same installation
long-term, I intend to carve up the 8gb uSD and have /dev/mmcblk0p3 as
/home. (partition #2 as swap, #1 as alternate boot)
Did the same thing here (swapped swap and home). This is the important
part of
http://www.google.com/search?q=man+page+dropbear
its in several places down that list.
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Well done Minh, this is really important work!
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Well done, by me too!
It helped me a lot to follow what happen to Community!
Thank you
Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Hello everybody,
welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
issue. The two big news are the launch of
Hi,
I am not sure if I should be talking about this here, or on the qt extended
forum which seems fairly quite. However, I recently downloaded and compiled
qt-extended-4.4.1.
I then compared the /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia directory from
qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2
Matthias Apitz wrote:
$ man proc
By the way, if you don't have them locally:
http://www.google.com/search?q=proc+manpage
Don't you think that this answer is too simple?
I thought it was dead easy. Why, what sort of hoops do you prefer to
jump through to find a man page? ;-) Second
Glen Ogilvie wrote:
Hi,
I am not sure if I should be talking about this here, or on the qt extended
forum which seems fairly quite. However, I recently downloaded and compiled
qt-extended-4.4.1.
I then compared the /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia directory from
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:36:38AM -0400, Feydreva wrote:
I am not a developer, but i test the images and try to use the openmoko...
My main issue with Openmoko are :
1) Battery life : only 4hrs, and when you charge it, it discharge itself
after a while. I cannot use it as a daily phone
El día Monday, October 20, 2008 a las 06:45:26PM +1100, Alex Osborne escribió:
Well of course it's going to be different on FreeBSD -- different kernel
-- but the location of the CPU time in /proc is going to be the same as
any other system running the Linux kernel (well at least any that's
On 20.10.2008 at 04:14:08, SCarlson wrote:
Very snappy. It does die pretty quickly.. Due to accelerometer failing?
How can I help test this further. I ran from command line and when it
dies it just stopping writing to stdout. Also, if I re-run it just sits
and waits for stdout. I assume this
Matthias Apitz wrote:
I thing Linux/UNIX goes the wrong way if we depend on Google to lookup
man pages;
We don't. Well, at least anyone actually running Linux doesn't. Just
typing man proc worked for me. ;-) I added the Google link as an
after-thought in case you were running something
Hi,
Am 20.10.2008 um 09:00 schrieb Peter Neubauer:
I tried the new version and noticed that directly after the install I
got the interface coming up repeatedly when I plugged/unplugged the FR
in the networking preferences. However, after restart, only the first
time I get the interface
Great overview what has happened in a relatively short period of time. Very
well written for its purpose. Short, to the point.
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Excellent report, Minh!
I've been having too little time to follow the traffic, you're a life
saver! :)
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
As it seems popular these days to publish a custom version of the rotate
program, I am also going to do it.
heh, you could've just sent a patch :)
After reading the source code of Rui Miguel Silva Seabra's rotate program, I
Excellent summary, many hours saved. Much appreciated, please keep it up.
Cheers Denis
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everybody,
welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
issue. The two big news are the launch
as others have said, thanks alot for your work with these updates Minh!
Great stuff!
Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Hello everybody,
welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
issue. The two big news are the launch of opkg.org, an application directory,
and
On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
As it seems popular these days to publish a custom version of the rotate
program, I am also going to do it.
heh, you could've just sent a patch :)
Then I would have to
thx for the changes. so far it works great. only suggestion i would like
to make is that you check if the screen is already rotated at startup.
also bring it back to the same mode after exit.
thx
max
Alasal schrieb:
I've changed the package of Sander, So it rotates on start and it starts with
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
Did a quick google but couldnt figure out what it uses as storage.
Hopefully not a relational database - they have their uses and qtopia
has conclusively proven this is *NOT* it :)
Well, I don't really know what Akonadi is using, but
Linus Gasser wrote:
Joel Newkirk a écrit :
When (if) I get my FR where I plan to retain the same installation
long-term, I intend to carve up the 8gb uSD and have /dev/mmcblk0p3 as
/home. (partition #2 as swap, #1 as alternate boot)
Did the same thing here (swapped swap and home). This is
All that works just fine, particularly the use of a swap partiton which
eliminates the slowing of the FR with time. I also made /usr/local point
to the uSD so that any applications I install are not affected by
changes to the flashed stuff.
I notice little negative effects by putting as much as
Houray,
I test the last FSO image and good things have been done :
- suspend/resume works.
what do you mean by work?
do you mean that you can suspend?
or do you mean that when you suspend and you press the button again it
comes back 100% of the time and that it doesn't misses calls(so 100%
On 20.10.2008 at 13:49:32, SCarlson wrote:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what i've read, the
accelerometers are not dieing but the mechanism that exposes them to
/dev/eventX does.? Still able to view throught the /sys/proc route?
That's possible but why do you care? The effect is
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:33:20PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
As it seems popular these days to publish a custom version of the rotate
program, I am also going to do it.
Flash has limited writes in its lifetime. That is why we have special
filesystems for flash [1],[2] (e.g. jffs2).
ext3 (due to its journalling) might not be good idea for Sd-card. I think
ext2 would fare fine except that it might be left with corrupted FS in case
improper shutdown but at least it
I just did as L. Gasser said, it's working fine, i notice some slowlyness in
xTerm in the neo when working in /home/ area but it's no big deal.
Used gParted to make partitions, and used ext2 instead of ext3
thanks guys
J
On Monday 20 October 2008, Iain B. Findleton wrote:
All that works just
Hi
I tried qtextended and I really like it. I even got WIFI working using only
the GUI . And I have no problems with sound during calls.
But there are also some problems. Mostly the same as Franky described.
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
- first of all: battery life seems to be ok, after one
Hello,
I consider buying Neo Freerunner, and would like to use it with Debian
(since its what I have on my PC). I intend to use it as my primary
cellphone and not merely as PDA. My problem is the Hardware bugs,
mainly concerning audio quality during call, listed here
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what i've read, the accelerometers
are not dieing but the mechanism that exposes them to /dev/eventX does.?
Still able to view throught the /sys/proc route?
Scott
Fabian Henze wrote:
On 20.10.2008 at 04:14:08, SCarlson wrote:
Very snappy. It does
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:33:20PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
As it seems popular these
Anyone compiled and running subversion server or even just a client on
their Freerunners yet?
If you use the Debian distribution, then yes, and you can install it
with just apt-get install subversion.
Stefan
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When using Om2008.9, I keep getting annoyed at the distinction between
the list of open windows (available by clicking at the top of the
screen) and the list of applications that I can launch: most of the time
the list of windows is a subset of the list of applications and having
to first get the
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:31:21PM +0200, DJDAS wrote:
If someone can cookup indent recipes for converting between one and
another I'd gladly use it to facilitate integration :)
man indent? ;)
I don't care enough about indentation to spend time learning indent, I
just want it sufficiently
CPU time of a proc? I was thinking in something like 'cat /proc/5/...'
it's hard to believe there should be no python way to access procfs more
generic (not to speak of other languages).
maybe
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-December/298171.html
helps?
Hi!
Is NetFront really availavble on OpenMoko? I tried to find it, but
without any luck. Can somebody post
some link?
ah, and thanks for the newsletter :)
Kamil
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Michael Zanetti a écrit :
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 08:18:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering
network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have
any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia...
[1]
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I tried qtextended and I really like it. I even got WIFI working using only
the GUI . And I have no problems with sound during calls.
Good. I do have the old problems - echo and buzzing. There is no way to
optimize the
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:37, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:31:21PM +0200, DJDAS wrote:
If someone can cookup indent recipes for converting between one and
another I'd gladly use it to facilitate integration :)
man indent? ;)
I don't care enough about indentation to
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 05:35:11PM +0100, Stroller wrote:
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:37, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:31:21PM +0200, DJDAS wrote:
If someone can cookup indent recipes for converting between one and
another I'd gladly use it to facilitate
Hey,
I've been posting about the installer script error I am getting and how
I can't get the installer to work for Debian. Does anyone have an image
I could flash? That would be great as I really want to try Debian on my
phone.
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I put OM2008.9 in the flash this afternoon. It did not make me happy: it
suffers from the same problem as when I run it from uSD: plugging in the
USB when it's running makes the FR die.
I reflashed QTexended.
Would it be better to use OM2008.8 instead? Or does this suffer from the
same
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
¿May I suggest the image being a virtualbox one instead of vmware? Virtualbox
is quite fast as well, and there are free (as in speech) versions available
for all major distros. Only problem is that the open source does not
I love my FR's screen. 280dpi in full color is just awesome.
But there's a problem: X11 applications choose their font sizes either
as a predefined number of pixels or a predefined number of points.
The first leads to very small text when you have a 280dpi screen.
The second leads to very large
I really welcome the 'back to basics' focus by OM.
However, I'd echo what other people have said - for me, the 'basics', are
ensuring that the phone works as a phone. My FR is sitting in my backpack,
with my SIM in another phone - I missed several calls and wasn't able to
make calls on several
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 19:54, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Until I'm convinced those items are addressed, my $400 FR is going to remain
turned off in my backpack, and my friends who bought iPhones will continue
to laugh at me for 'wasting' my money on such a 'phone'. *please* give
Vikas Saurabh wrote:
Flash has limited writes in its lifetime. That is why we have special
filesystems for flash [1],[2] (e.g. jffs2).
ext3 (due to its journalling) might not be good idea for Sd-card. I
think ext2 would fare fine except that it might be left with corrupted
FS in case
Hello,
om2008.9, ash, terminal
I've tried to add an HISTFILESIZE=500, export HISTFILESIZE, in to my
/etc/profile file and it doesn't seems to work. The .hash_history
file is ever at fifteen lines length ?
Maelvon
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Of course and I was not expecting the man pages installed on the FR.
If you use the Debian distribution, manpages are installed just as on
any other Debian system.
Stefan
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There is no way if the screen is already rotated. (read: I don't find a way
to figure out when the screen is already rotated). Please email me, if you
find one and I will directly adept it to the package.
Max Giesbert wrote:
thx for the changes. so far it works great. only suggestion i would
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Houray,
I test the last FSO image and good things have been done :
- suspend/resume works.
what do you mean by work?
do you mean that you can suspend?
or do you mean that when you suspend and you press the button again it
comes back 100% of the time and that it
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:58:27 +0200
Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 19:54, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Until I'm convinced those items are addressed, my $400 FR is going
to remain turned off in my backpack, and my friends who bought
iPhones will
Hello,
Hi
I consider buying Neo Freerunner, and would like to use it with Debian
(since its what I have on my PC). I intend to use it as my primary
cellphone and not merely as PDA. My problem is the Hardware bugs,
mainly concerning audio quality during call, listed here
Hi,
That has never happened with me. What kernel are you using?
I put OM2008.9 in the flash this afternoon. It did not make me happy:
it suffers from the same problem as when I run it from uSD: plugging
in the USB when it's running makes the FR die.
I reflashed QTexended.
Would it be
Yogiz wrote:
That has never happened with me. What kernel are you using?
I use these files:
Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin
Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2
Paul
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Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04
Hi. This is my first and hopefully only post in where I whine.
I love my FreeRunner - but it doesn't work as a phone reliably (I sure
don't want to miss my first daughter being born soon) and the progress
since July when I bought it is far from convincing ... FSO sure looks
good but it won't
The Debian distribution doesn't seem to do auto-suspend: you have to
explicily ask for it before your FR suspends. At first I thought it
would be OK, but in practice it doesn work: the device will wake up on
too many occasions (e.g. when receiving a phone call) and won't
automatically fall back
Understood. I'm trying to stick with the OM products though.
-Scott
Stefan Monnier wrote:
Anyone compiled and running subversion server or even just a client on
their Freerunners yet?
If you use the Debian distribution, then yes, and you can install it
with just apt-get install
Not everyone has those problems, I experienced those problems only a
couple times myself but not every call. I actually use mine daily and
rarely switch back to my old phone. Only on days where battery life is
crucial (such as long road trips without a car charger) although even
that is rare
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or if it's phone you want, try out the new QTextended. You'll like it.
I was using QTextended when I encountered the situations I described - it
still doesn't seem to provide solid phone capabilities - the phone got in a
mode
You must configure zhone to do auto-suspend. Therefor you have to edit
the /etc/frameworkd.conf and change the suspend parameter. But this only
works while zhone is running. ;)
Ciao,
Rainer
Stefan Monnier wrote:
The Debian distribution doesn't seem to do auto-suspend: you have to
Hi,
Am Montag, den 20.10.2008, 15:00 -0400 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
The Debian distribution doesn't seem to do auto-suspend: you have to
explicily ask for it before your FR suspends. At first I thought it
would be OK, but in practice it doesn work: the device will wake up on
too many
A snapshot seems to have been released on september 25th ^.^ (A week after the
quoted message)
http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/
Has there been any progress toward packaging that up?
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 17:25:25 you wrote:
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 17.09.2008, 17:13 -0400
Frankly speaking I'm not sure anymore if the bugs are only software related.
As long as there is no image that has stable phoning capabilities I would
not advise anyone to buy one.
The hardware might be able to provide it in the future, but the unstable
software haven't proven itself yet.
Only if
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not everyone has those problems, I experienced those problems only a
couple times myself but not every call. I actually use mine daily and
rarely switch back to my old phone. Only on days where battery life is
Hi,
Am Montag, den 20.10.2008, 16:28 -0400 schrieb Daniel Benoy:
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 17:25:25 you wrote:
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 17.09.2008, 17:13 -0400 schrieb Daniel Benoy:
Is there any way I can help accelerate the process of getting illume
on debian on my freerunner?
mån 2008-10-20 klockan 21:36 +0100 skrev t m:
So to summarize, if you want to play it safe wait for GTA03.
How do you know that they'll not go through the same process with GTA03
that we've all been doing with GTA02? Wasn't GTA02 supposed to be the
stable version?
/ Fredrik
signature.asc
The problem with some of the comments on images, are people not using the
phone to the extend as others do. I need my phone, also for business
reasons. I receive and send sms messages and also phone during driving a car
and in crowded surroundings.
There are also people praising an image after a 2
So to summarize, if you want to play it safe wait for GTA03.
How do you know that they'll not go through the same process with GTA03
that we've all been doing with GTA02? Wasn't GTA02 supposed to be the
stable version?
You're right. I should have said something else. If you want to play
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:24:11 +1000, Denis Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
¿May I suggest the image being a virtualbox one instead of vmware?
Virtualbox is quite fast as well, and there are free (as in speech)
versions
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:26:05 +0200, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I put OM2008.9 in the flash this afternoon. It did not make me happy: it
suffers from the same problem as when I run it from uSD: plugging in the
USB when it's running makes the FR die.
I reflashed QTexended.
Would it be
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:53:32 +0300, Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Hi
I consider buying Neo Freerunner, and would like to use it with Debian
(since its what I have on my PC). I intend to use it as my primary
cellphone and not merely as PDA. My problem is the Hardware bugs,
mainly
2008/10/20 SCarlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Understood. I'm trying to stick with the OM products though.
-Scott
Some weeks ago I was able to compile subversion with OE but i deleted my
tree and now it fails. Try asking on OE mailing-lists or irc channel and
report please!
Regards
Nicola
I must admit I never tried 2007.2 - but the things I read about it suggested
that it also wasn't very stable - people recommended using Qtopia if you
wanted a stable phone experience.
Does 2007.2 really provide a rock-solid phone/sms experience?
Warren
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Johny
(sorry for my poor english, french version below)
//
Hi,
As you may have noticed already, a francophone community is rapidly
growing on the *http://openmoko-fr.org* site which has been in existence
for only three months now.
The site now contains a news blog
Hi,
If you want to talk about Openmoko with funny guys (and with a nice
strokeFreerunner/stroke BEER in your hand) take a look at this :
http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/2008-10-24_:_Grenoble
Remember : next friday, 19:00 :)
See you soon,
swap38
PS : faut-il traduire en français ? Allez
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When using Om2008.9, I keep getting annoyed at the distinction between
the list of open windows (available by clicking at the top of the
screen) and the list of applications that I can launch: most of the time
the list of windows is a subset of the
Paul wrote:
I agree. Having a solid functional phone is the prime objective.
Paul
I second this. Right now, I am frustrated because I miss probably half
my calls because the phone freezes coming out of suspend.
. . . shawn
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When using Om2008.9, I keep getting annoyed at the distinction between
the list of open windows (available by clicking at the top of the
screen) and the list of applications that I can launch: most of the time
the list of windows is a subset of the list of applications and having
to first get
On Monday 20 October 2008 18:57:21 Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Monday, October 20, 2008 a las 06:45:26PM +1100, Alex Osborne
escribió:
Well of course it's going to be different on FreeBSD -- different kernel
-- but the location of the CPU time in /proc is going to be the same as
any other
2008/10/21 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
When using Om2008.9, I keep getting annoyed at the distinction between
the list of open windows (available by clicking at the top of the
screen) and the list of applications that I can launch: most of the time
the list of windows is a subset of the
Good job, the web site is very nice !
Hope I can see you guys when I come to France. Oui oui je suis
Français !
Charlie
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 00:49 +0200, swap38 wrote:
(sorry for my poor english, french version below)
//
Hi,
As you may have noticed already, a
There is no way if the screen is already rotated. (read: I don't find a way
to figure out when the screen is already rotated). Please email me, if you
find one and I will directly adept it to the package.
In my tests, I noticed that the output of `xrandr' moves the little star
when I switch
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:14:28 +0200, Christ van Willegen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy,
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're interested to visit the edge and know how to DFU stuff
around with NOR to get yourself in and out of trouble, you can get a
I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my
AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the
bolt; essentially my phone won't charge. It will, however, charge from
the computer. Is this a known issue?
Also, I have posted three times about the
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:40:54 -0400
Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not everyone has those problems, I experienced those problems only a
couple times myself but not every call. I actually use mine
Hi Joel
OM2008.9 is just a snapshot during the evolution of 2008.8 toward today,
taken at the time of it's release. if you install 2008.8 or 2008.9 and do
opkg upgrade you should end up at precisely the same place.
That said, have you tried the most recent 2008.x snapshot? It's basically
Hello,
After the lightweight webbrowser dillo was mentioned in the October
Community Update
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/October_19th,_2008
I was thinking to give it a try on my Fr, but I'm unsure if I should do so;
Who is the author of this port of dillo to arm4? There is no
Speaking of formatting ... I imagine there's a reply in there somewhere :P
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 01:31:21 DJDAS wrote:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
html
head
/head
body bgcolor=#ff text=#00
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
blockquote
the WSoD. I've read that some days ago it
was fixed so i've downloaded and flashed the daily 2008.8-update
(20081020) but with no luck. Is there anything special to do?
I was wondering something like resetting glamo registers with a command
(eg. echo -n 1 /sys/glamo/reset_glamo_registers) to put
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