Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
well ... in tree years 3g chipsets will down the price ;), and also 8 Mpx cameras will be cheap XD, even microprojectors maybe affordable. Sean then I have time to teach kernel hacking to my two years daughter to hack the GTA04 2008/12/23 Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com: On 12/23/08 AVee wrote: Regardless, there may well be a Reverse Osborne Effect as well, I bought a Freerunner, but right now I probably wouldn't buy one again, but wait for the GTA03. If there was a definitive statement telling me that would take at least an other year to get done I might just buy a GTA02. GTA03 is at least 3 years away. Do you want to buy three GTA02s now? ;-) -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.12 and USB network Ubuntu Intrepid
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:11:00 +0100 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: What complete set of configuration changes and shell scripts are you using? Please update the Wiki if it is out of date because once I got it running and now (because I'm not a networking/iptables crack) it is not anymore. Thanks. Probably the wiki instructions work for some/most distributions, I was just unable to get it working for Ubuntu (Hardy heron). What I do is just iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 and then run the script I pasted. The above stuff is from the Wiki. There is probably some proper fix for the problem, but I don't know how it's supposed to work (editing /etc/network/interafces doesn't work for me at least). // Simon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android]
Hi, I did some Android image from Sean Mcneil review in devel list. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-December/003877.html I don't know why, but for me i can't use the media player. The application is there and can lounch it, just can't play song (I'll try that more). Regards, Wendy On Monday 22 December 2008 00:10:09 rakshat hooja wrote: I was in the process of flashing android for the first time. I understand only GSM works on android (no wifi or gps) and thats ok with me. Just had two questions 1) Is there a media player inbuilt in the android flash image? 2) Should one flash the Kolou beta image or Sean's image? Thanks Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] first impressions
July 18th I received my FR and haven't been able to use it as a daily phone since that day. I have tried some distro's (including testing versions) and also Qtopia, everyone had some major issues that prevented me from using them. Basic gsm functionality: SMS, phone (receiving and calling), waking up from suspend should work out of the box IMO. 2008.12 still isn't able to do the basic stuff reliable (after 3 days of testing). - Went into deep sleep and needed to remove my battery twice to be able to use the phone again (Once after a game of Sudoku and once after trying out gps). - One shutdown after suspend. Needed to reboot (battery was a bit low) - Sound quality of receiving phone calls is not very good IMO. - Once phone call was disconnected (no low battery) - When answering a call, it takes 1 or 2 seconds before the other side hears you. - Keyboard is not very usable. Why should entering your sim pin be such a hassle and don't even start about creating sms messages (haven't tried it yet). The good. - No echo or buzz for me. - Booting time is fine. - wake up from suspend for sms messages and calls seem to work fine - battery life is ok The best thing from this release is that missing calls or sms messages without warning didn't happen (yet?). For some this image might be good enough, I'm not there yet. It feels slow and still unreliable, keyboard is a known annoyance just as the muted state after answering a call. But this is probably the first image I have ever used longer than 1 day... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android]
I think there has been some issues with software license, The multimedia codecs is not in the android software for the freerunner. Wendy wrote: Hi, I did some Android image from Sean Mcneil review in devel list. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-December/003877.html I don't know why, but for me i can't use the media player. The application is there and can lounch it, just can't play song (I'll try that more). Regards, Wendy On Monday 22 December 2008 00:10:09 rakshat hooja wrote: I was in the process of flashing android for the first time. I understand only GSM works on android (no wifi or gps) and thats ok with me. Just had two questions 1) Is there a media player inbuilt in the android flash image? 2) Should one flash the Kolou beta image or Sean's image? Thanks Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] first impressions
For some this image might be good enough, I'm not there yet. It feels slow and still unreliable, I had a long time without using 2008.X (currently Qt Extended is my main stack), and I found 2008.12 sensible quicker, more responsive than 2008.9. Qtopia apps are the worst, and they seem still laggy. I dream them to be removed for paroli. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enlightenment
Hi, you missed to add which libraries you want to link. E.g.: -lewl Regards, Frederik Am Montag, den 22.12.2008, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Peter Stumm: Hi, i have installed enlightenment with the easy_e17.sh script from http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh , first i can't compile notification and screenshot (i skipped these) then i want to compile a little program i have from the ewl book #include stdio.h #include Ewl.h void destroy_cb(Ewl_Widget *w, void *event, void *data) { ewl_widget_destroy(w); ewl_main_quit(); } int main(int argc, char ** argv) { Ewl_Widget *win = NULL; if (!ewl_init(argc, argv)) { printf(Unable to init ewl\n); return 1; } win = ewl_window_new(); ewl_window_title_set(EWL_WINDOW(win), EWL Window); ewl_window_name_set(EWL_WINDOW(win), EWL_WINDOW); ewl_window_class_set(EWL_WINDOW(win), EWLWindow); ewl_object_size_request(EWL_OBJECT(win), 200, 100); ewl_callback_append(win, EWL_CALLBACK_DELETE_WINDOW, destroy_cb, NULL); ewl_widget_show(win); ewl_main(); return 0; } i compiled the code with gcc main.c -I/opt/e17/include/ewl -I/opt/e17/include/ -I/opt/e17/include/eina-0 -I/opt/e17/include/eina-0/eina -L/opt/e17/lib/ewl then i get following errors /tmp/ccs04jss.o: In function `destroy_cb': main.c:(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `ewl_widget_destroy' main.c:(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `ewl_main_quit' /tmp/ccs04jss.o: In function `main': main.c:(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `ewl_init' main.c:(.text+0x5c): undefined reference to `ewl_window_new' main.c:(.text+0x72): undefined reference to `ewl_window_title_set' main.c:(.text+0x85): undefined reference to `ewl_window_name_set' main.c:(.text+0x98): undefined reference to `ewl_window_class_set' main.c:(.text+0xb3): undefined reference to `ewl_object_size_request' main.c:(.text+0xb8): undefined reference to `EWL_CALLBACK_DELETE_WINDOW' main.c:(.text+0xd7): undefined reference to `ewl_callback_append' main.c:(.text+0xe2): undefined reference to `ewl_widget_show' main.c:(.text+0xe7): undefined reference to `ewl_main' collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück hope you can help me ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Repo information
As per some of the other posts, this is the first distro that I've used as a normal phone for more than 24hrs. Well done! My only finding so far on the base functionality included is that the alarm doesn't wake the device from suspend. I did notice that the opkg configuration is still trying to hit 2008.8 repos - but the repo site doesn't include any 2008.12 repo's. Is this just a naming convention issue (after all, .12 is based upon .8) or will installing packages from here break things? Apart from that - all looking good! Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Repo information
On Tue, December 23, 2008 14:19, Russell Hay wrote: As per some of the other posts, this is the first distro that I've used as a normal phone for more than 24hrs. Well done! My only finding so far on the base functionality included is that the alarm doesn't wake the device from suspend. I did notice that the opkg configuration is still trying to hit 2008.8 repos - but the repo site doesn't include any 2008.12 repo's. Is this just a naming convention issue (after all, .12 is based upon .8) or will installing packages from here break things? Most of them work, but it should be set up with an seperate 2008.12 repo Apart from that - all looking good! Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Package categories for opkg
Hi all, At the moment these are the opkg categories (as seen on http://opkg.org): Audio Games GPS Graphics Internet Office PIM Settings System Utility Video Would it be more appropriate to use the relevant Debian/Ubuntu dpkg categories? Because most of the packages also exist and/or originate from .deb packages. They use the following (as seen on http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/): Administration Utilities Base Utilities Communication Programs debian-installer udeb packages Development Documentation Editors Electronics Embedded software Games GNOME Graphics Ham Radio Interpreters KDE Library development Libraries Mail Mathematics Miscellaneous Network Newsgroups Old Libraries Other OS's and file systems Perl Python Science Shells Sound TeX Text Processing Translations Utilities Virtual packages Web Software X Window System software I'd like to suggest the following consolidation from opkg package categories to dpkg categories: Administration Utilities - opkg Settings Base Utilities - opkg System Editors - opkg Office Games - opkg Games Graphics - opkg Graphics and some GPS Miscellaneous - opkg GPS Sound - opkg Audio Text Processing - opkg Office Utilities - opkg Utility and some GPS While looking into this, perhaps a new category called GPS needs to be added to the Debian/Ubuntu world. In short wat was the reason for these alternative categories and is this consolidation of categories welcomed? Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] tangogps - python scripts for .kml from/to sqlite
Thomas des Courières ha scritto: Hi all, just wanted to share some scripts I used. The first one is for converting a list of points out of a kml file to a poi sqlite3 database which tangogps can read, and the other one is for doing the reverse operation : getting the pois of the tango gps db and creating a kml file. It might need some tweaking, as some things are hard coded. Note that I also extracted the points of the kml file with my favorite excel like program into a plain file listing all points. Hoping that it will save someone's time, Thomas i think is a good idea!!! i have use your idea and your code in my gtkaddpoi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gtkaddpoi :) for now only for export a POI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Helge Hafting wrote: Making a good small lens is not a problem, a good small sensor is. Japanese tourists may be satisfied, but perhaps they just aren't that good photographers. Small-sensor images can be reasonable under ideal lighting conditions, but hopeless for most other cases. But then, tourists go where the sun is. To use an internet cliche you're doing it wrong. Most people aren't good photographers, Japanese or otherwise. Neither do they care. Look at the sales of disposable cameras before digital came along. The quality of photography is just not the point. You want a decent resolution, sure, but if they come out a bit blurry or badly lit? Who cares? I'm snapping stuff that doesn't matter but might be cute if it comes out ok, the dog looking at me funny, the family in front of an amusing road sign, a shop with an amusing name, some people at a birthday part in a restaurant In fact the act of taking the photo is probably more important than the result most of the time. To others arguing about cameras and no camera, I can't have one at work - please recognise that you are a tiny, tiny minority. Many more people don't care about cameras in their phones, many more do, but those for whom it's actually an obstruction are really an insignificant market sector. And the I just want a phone that works and does nothing but make calls crowd won't be looking at Neo anyway. As to whether camera or 3g should be a priority? Both, IMHO. 3G is an absolute must for the gta03, without it it's just a phone with a lousy connection most of the time. Or would be if I could be bothered to try getting GPRS working... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1694101.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] tangogps - python scripts for .kml from/to sqlite
i have use your idea and your code in my gtkaddpoi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gtkaddpoi :) nice to hear ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weather app: meooem 0.0.1
I don't know why, but I like it (probably just because it works ;-)) maybe also adding a possibility to launch a window with all our favorite places; or a gui to choose a location (and maybe even get forecasts?) On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Yann Neveu yann_m...@gabuzomeu.fr wrote: Here: http://gabuzomeu.fr/openmoko/meooem/ and on http://www.opkg.org/package_66.html , you'll find a small app which fetch yahoo rss weather feed and add an icon on your illume launcher. You can press on it to update datas. If not connected, no feed, and the temp will be -1. Code is bloated and ugly and the next step is to clean up before adding other functions like displaying next days forecast and things like that. Other change will be the icon set which could be more free than the stardock ones (see the /usr/share/pixmaps/meoeem/stardock/permission.txt). Please modify /etc/meooem.conf to have you preffered city weather instead of mine. Any suggestions welcomed. Yann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Better to add a swap partition, or swap file. Else you will get out of memory error when for example apt-get install something. Here is my /etc/fstab: The 3rd line is for swap, make sure to change the first column to your partition device. If you can not create new partition for swap, just add a swap file. Refer to: http://www.go2linux.org/Swap-memory-increase-with-swap-file http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/031106.html Better to start openmoko-panel-plugin, else you will get frustrated by the matchbox keyboard (suppose you choose it): Add a new line to file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart: @openmoko-panel-plugin With the panel plugin you can easily hide/open the keyboard. BTW, the openmoko frameworkd and panel plugin eats quite a bit memory :) Maybe it's a good idea to move the tray from bottom panel to (newly created) top panel. To do this, add a new file (named for example top-panel) in /root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/ with the content of Then (1) remove the tray from /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/LXDE/panels/panel (2) OR just copy this file to dir /root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/, rename it to config -- this overrides the default panel configuration. The biggest problem of LXDE on touch screen phone is UI. To do right click, install libgtkstylus and add it to ~/.xsession: export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so xsetroot -solid black # strange exec startlxde NOTE: do backups before modifications. Regards. jos-3 wrote: Hello, I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. Can you help me please? (I have been reading the wiki, but I don' t get it :-( ) Thanks Jos. Op maandag 22-12-2008 om 19:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Michele Renda: Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)? Hello, yes I was. I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain panel and plugins like XFCE. You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All configurations can be done via gui. Please, if you try it, please report your impressions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--LXDE--tp1690148p1694453.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Package categories for opkg
Pander schrieb: Would it be more appropriate to use the relevant Debian/Ubuntu dpkg categories? Because most of the packages also exist and/or originate from .deb packages. They use the following (as seen on http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/): Administration Utilities Base Utilities Communication Programs debian-installer udeb packages Development Documentation Editors Electronics Embedded software Games GNOME Graphics Ham Radio Interpreters KDE Library development Libraries Mail Mathematics Miscellaneous Network Newsgroups Old Libraries Other OS's and file systems Perl Python Science Shells Sound TeX Text Processing Translations Utilities Virtual packages Web Software X Window System software I'd like to suggest the following consolidation from opkg package categories to dpkg categories: Administration Utilities - opkg Settings Base Utilities - opkg System Editors - opkg Office Games - opkg Games Graphics - opkg Graphics and some GPS Miscellaneous - opkg GPS Sound - opkg Audio Text Processing - opkg Office Utilities - opkg Utility and some GPS While looking into this, perhaps a new category called GPS needs to be added to the Debian/Ubuntu world. I'd go for category Geo instead of GPS being a autonomous subcategory of Sience as is Mathematics. Cheers, Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android]
All, I think it is more that there is only one codec in the beta image - Ogg-Vorbis. If you join the forum then you can follow this link - http://forum.koolu.org/viewtopic.php?f=10t=34 - which seems to describe what works and what doesn't and how to install. Chris On Dec 23, 2008, at 4:38 AM, Andreas Wallin wrote: I think there has been some issues with software license, The multimedia codecs is not in the android software for the freerunner. Wendy wrote: Hi, I did some Android image from Sean Mcneil review in devel list. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-December/003877.html I don't know why, but for me i can't use the media player. The application is there and can lounch it, just can't play song (I'll try that more). Regards, Wendy On Monday 22 December 2008 00:10:09 rakshat hooja wrote: I was in the process of flashing android for the first time. I understand only GSM works on android (no wifi or gps) and thats ok with me. Just had two questions 1) Is there a media player inbuilt in the android flash image? 2) Should one flash the Kolou beta image or Sean's image? Thanks Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS testing on 2008.12
Hello all, I hope somebody here might have an idea or two that might shed some light. I've trawled for HOWTO's and recipes on how to get the GPS working on my FR, but to no avail, none of them worked at all. In order to to some low-level testing to acertain whether I have a possible hardware problem or not, is there a way to check the GPS device for activity of some sort? I've left agpsui running for almost half a day (with GPS enabled in Settings of course), but I get no good fixes or any TTFF. The rest of the phone seems to be working OK, I manage to make/receive calls and SMS's reliably. I have even managed to sort-of stabilise 2008.12 with regards to suspend, and also managed to get Enlightenment to stop crashing all the time with Illume (thanks to Yaroslav's WIKI entry!). Any ideas how I can do some low-level testing on the GPS device? Thanks in advance! -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS testing on 2008.12
you can cat the output... through terminal or just look at it in agpsui (the last tab lest you see a list of the recieved GPS information) On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net wrote: Hello all, I hope somebody here might have an idea or two that might shed some light. I've trawled for HOWTO's and recipes on how to get the GPS working on my FR, but to no avail, none of them worked at all. In order to to some low-level testing to acertain whether I have a possible hardware problem or not, is there a way to check the GPS device for activity of some sort? I've left agpsui running for almost half a day (with GPS enabled in Settings of course), but I get no good fixes or any TTFF. The rest of the phone seems to be working OK, I manage to make/receive calls and SMS's reliably. I have even managed to sort-of stabilise 2008.12 with regards to suspend, and also managed to get Enlightenment to stop crashing all the time with Illume (thanks to Yaroslav's WIKI entry!). Any ideas how I can do some low-level testing on the GPS device? Thanks in advance! -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Repo information
Hi, Since there are no major changes regarding package installation between Om2008.8, Om2008.9, Om2008.10 and Om2008.12; we use Om2008.8 for simplifying the directory structure. Later today, I will put some notes about repo info on the downloads server to make this clear. Best Regards and Merry X'mas -- Ray Chao Openmoko System Admin. Pander wrote: On Tue, December 23, 2008 14:19, Russell Hay wrote: As per some of the other posts, this is the first distro that I've used as a normal phone for more than 24hrs. Well done! My only finding so far on the base functionality included is that the alarm doesn't wake the device from suspend. I did notice that the opkg configuration is still trying to hit 2008.8 repos - but the repo site doesn't include any 2008.12 repo's. Is this just a naming convention issue (after all, .12 is based upon .8) or will installing packages from here break things? Most of them work, but it should be set up with an seperate 2008.12 repo Apart from that - all looking good! Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS testing on 2008.12
Hello Yorick, Yorick Moko wrote: you can cat the output... through terminal or just look at it in agpsui (the last tab lest you see a list of the recieved GPS information) Thanks for that, I captured the output and here follows a short snippet: ---start--- $GPTXT,01,01,02,u-blox ag - www.u-blox.com*50 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTARIS ATR062x HW 80040001*26 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ROM CORE 5.00Jan 09 2006 12:00:00*76 $GPTXT,01,01,02,LIC 1EBF-BD07-E83D-6BE1-0F7A*50 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSUPERV=AC SD OD PDoS *0A $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSTATUS=SHORT*6D $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 ---end--- I'm not sure how to interpret this output. Could the above mean the actual GPS chipset is working properly? If this is so, could I then perhaps have a reception problem that causes me not to get a fix? Sorry for the newbie questions, I've yet got a lot to learn! ;-) -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote We perhaps will be most surprised how much a 3G modem will cost... If you live in an Australian city to get reliable coverage you need to be with 3 or Telstra, the competitors don't cut it. 3 is about 1/10th the cost of Telstra (2G or 3G). For data, 3G services from any provider are MUCH cheaper than their 2G services, about 1/10th-1/100th or better of the cost. So the cost of the modem is almost trivial when your phone and data bill is fraction of the cost. In Australian country areas the only network with good coverage is Telstra NextG - it runs on 3G 850MHz. It covers 99% of the population compared with about 96% of the nearest competitor (probably about 1/20th the land area). If you want a reliable phone in Australia it HAS to be 3G. In my apartment, in a city, I am 100m from a mobile phone tower and 1km from a very major train station. I can only get a reliable signal with 3 or Telstra, other networks drop out all the time. Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
U Sri, 24. 12. 2008., u 15:02 +1100, Ben je napisao/la: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I live in Bosnia and here there is no 3G, so I don't need it at all! :) signature.asc Description: Dio poruke sa digitalnim potpisom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Getting rid of Android
Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Quick thing, what are you guys calling 3G. EDGE is considered 3G by the terrible company by the name of Apple, but as a CDMA (EV-DO) user, I consider UMTS/HS?PA as 3G. Please clarify. -Thanks. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Milos Mandaric mi...@manda.com.ba wrote: U Sri, 24. 12. 2008., u 15:02 +1100, Ben je napisao/la: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I live in Bosnia and here there is no 3G, so I don't need it at all! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
vsviri...@exceede.com escribió: Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. You might want to try installing any other distro on the microsd and boot from it. Then you can use fdisk to remove those partitions and try again. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:24:01 -0800 Sargun Dhillon xbmodder +openm...@gmail.com babbled: 3g == umts+ (hd*pa etc.) Quick thing, what are you guys calling 3G. EDGE is considered 3G by the terrible company by the name of Apple, but as a CDMA (EV-DO) user, I consider UMTS/HS?PA as 3G. Please clarify. -Thanks. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Milos Mandaric mi...@manda.com.ba wrote: U Sri, 24. 12. 2008., u 15:02 +1100, Ben je napisao/la: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I live in Bosnia and here there is no 3G, so I don't need it at all! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
U Uto, 23. 12. 2008., u 20:24 -0800, Sargun Dhillon je napisao/la: Quick thing, what are you guys calling 3G. EDGE is considered 3G by the terrible company by the name of Apple, but as a CDMA (EV-DO) user, I consider UMTS/HS?PA as 3G. Please clarify. -Thanks. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Milos Mandaric mi...@manda.com.ba wrote: U Sri, 24. 12. 2008., u 15:02 +1100, Ben je napisao/la: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I live in Bosnia and here there is no 3G, so I don't need it at all! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When I am talking about 3G, I am thinking about UMTS/HS?PA. I have EDGE. signature.asc Description: Dio poruke sa digitalnim potpisom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Gothnet wrote: 3G is an absolute must for the gta03, without it it's just a phone with a lousy connection most of the time. Or would be if I could be bothered to try getting GPRS working... I'm pretty sure the specs for GTA03 are set and it's 2.75G / edge. 3G will be in GTA04 at the earliest. 3G will be an option only when there is a 3G chipset with interface documentation that's not under NDA. Ben. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
that's a shame, guess I'll have to get an android then, as the minimum requirement for a phone for me is that I can call people on it, and in Australia, that means 3G if you want good coverage and/or a good price. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Ben Wilson b...@abcom.co.nz wrote: Gothnet wrote: 3G is an absolute must for the gta03, without it it's just a phone with a lousy connection most of the time. Or would be if I could be bothered to try getting GPRS working... I'm pretty sure the specs for GTA03 are set and it's 2.75G / edge. 3G will be in GTA04 at the earliest. 3G will be an option only when there is a 3G chipset with interface documentation that's not under NDA. Ben. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community