Re: Problem in fso-frameworkd
On 12/01/2009 01:06, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: The moment mdbus exits the resource will released again. You need to have a program running that can keep the resource requested. Thank you for the info. I was thinking that frameworkd was ignoring how it was called (if the main program exit or not). Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which SHR image
I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: I tried Om2007.2 and Om2008.12 without GPS multiplexing: I just stop gsmd (2007.2) or qpe (2008.12) before starting pppd and chat, but the problem is still there. - Can gsm0710muxd (GSM multiplexer) help in some way? - Does GPRS require pppd or are there different software solutions? Don't know FSO, etc... What are other experiences with long-lasting GPRS calls? i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london). since i have an all-you-can-eat GPRS plan, i'd happily try this for myself and give you feedback. how long is long-lasting, for you? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:13:56AM +, Tom Yates wrote: i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london). Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by pppd/chat? since i have an all-you-can-eat GPRS plan, i'd happily try this for myself and give you feedback. how long is long-lasting, for you? I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds. But the real problem is that if the connection fails, it will not restart again. I can add a cronjob to test connection and restart it, but I know that pppd should manage the fault. -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: angstrom in toolchain
Shaz wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org mailto:mic...@openmoko.org wrote: That's the Angstrom branding we inherit by relying on OpenEmbedded and its flagship distro. This means that due to dependence on openembedded and Angstrom being the major contributor to OE. Is there some contribution made directly to openMoko by Angstrom? Yes, Openmoko started off just being Ångström by another name. It has slightly degressed since then but is still fundamentally 95% shared with Ångström. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Niccolo Rigacci nicc...@rigacci.org wrote: [snip] Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by pppd/chat? Yes - gsm0710muxd creates a new serial device for each application needing access to the GSM device. You just call pppd with its own device. [snip] I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds. [snip] I've run GPRS for several hours at a time in a car travelling in some dodgy reception areas. Sometimes it seemsed to lose connection and re-establish itself gracefully but more often than not I'd find that GPRS had died and pppd was still up but ineffective. I usually had to reboot the FR before I could re-establish connection when this happened. -- Andrew Stephen http://www.evil.geek.nz/ It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious. - Oscar Wilde ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:13:56AM +, Tom Yates wrote: i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london). Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by pppd/chat? it definitely is. read my writeup at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS if you want to see exactly what i'm doing (my writeup's about 2008.09, but it's identical to the setup i just did for 2008.12 save that gsm0710muxd was in the repository so i didn't have to get the packages manually. I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds. my battery won't last that long! But the real problem is that if the connection fails, it will not restart again. I can add a cronjob to test connection and restart it, but I know that pppd should manage the fault. i have *definitely* had pppd drop and autorecover the connection on shorter calls (eg, on the train - the cambridge-london line has tunnels on it, which provide a handy means of testing drop/recover). i'm not sure that pppd is handling the autorecovery, though; i have a vague feeling it's the call handling between the calypso chip and the base station(s) that are responsible for setting up my GPRS connection again). i can post my ppp and ping logs next time i see this behaviour, if you'd like, so we can see if ppp even appears to notice the outage? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Base
Jeremy Chang wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:03AM +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote: The Paroli Team wishes all of you a happy new year. Our last update was a while back but development continued and, despite sickness, vacations, Christmas, New Year's as well as jet lags, a lot has been accomplished. Most importantly, you can now find a paroli package in the testing repository[1] which can be installed via opkg. The package[2] is at pre-alpha state but the main phone functions are available and ready to be tested. Please note paroli is not considered a daily phone app, yet. You will find it can be rather unstable at times and might not always react the way you would expect ;) We hope that with the help of the community and lots of hard work we can reach a state where paroli can be considered reliable soon. Information on how to run and use paroli can be found here[3] We also have opened a new base for information, updates and bug tracking: http://www.paroli-project.org The main part is a blog which we will use to inform of small changes, publish tutorials and interesting facts we discover along the road. The page also contains a rough overview of our goals and how we plan to get there, it is a bit scarce right now, but will be filled up continuously. We are hoping for your input via mail, irc, chat or comment fields on our blog. Our new bug tracker resides at http://www.paroli-project.org/trac . It is rather virgin up to now so we encourage you to test paroli and note your findings ;) We also moved our source repository which can now be found at: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=summary [4] Execuse me?! We changed from git.OM to here? Why I don't know this anytime before? Same opinion here. I had no idea about this. Is there a why? As you can see the paroli has great plans for 2009 and we hope some of you will join us and follow our efforts. /The paroli Team [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/ [2] A rough overview about how this package differs from the last tichy package: Tichy migrated into paroli-core and is now a vital part of paroli. It is a slimmed down and more paroli focused version. Among other things EFL is now the default graphical library and the starting process has been optimized.Yaml was replaced with ParseConfig due to performance issues.Plus lots of other small, nifty details. [3] http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/ [4] checkout via git clone http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Re: disable power-button
The GTA02 isn't too hard to dismantle - four screws and a stiff thumbnail/guitar pick - so you could just /remove/ the power button - IIRC it's just a plastic moulding slipped in over the microswitch. Cover the hole with some tape and off you go. On Friday 09 January 2009 16:26:56 Davide Scaini wrote: I was interested in something similar... I could I change the action of the single-press power button? i would like to do something more than just supend (like switch down the wifi with wmiconfig that works reliably for me) is that something embedded in kernel like the shutdown? thanks in advance for your reply d On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Actually, the kernel will call shutdown if the power is held for 8 seconds. ah! wasn't sure about that -- i sort of hoped, fso would consume the key press and do it's own stuff to shutdown. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest! :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:41:57AM +, Tom Yates wrote: I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds. my battery won't last that long! I use a car lighter adapter :-) i'm not sure that pppd is handling the autorecovery, though; i have a vague feeling it's the call handling between the calypso chip and the base station(s) I can pass from cell to cell through long highway tunnels and the GSM modem handles the connection recover transparently, pppd does not notice it. But if the pppd notice the failure (due LCP echo request timeout), it cannot recover. I had experience of PPP over DSL lines, where persist and holdoff parameters did the trick, but it seems that pppd on the FreeRunner has a bug. -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: I use a car lighter adapter :-) ah, ok. i don't have a car, and it's trickier to do the wiring on a motorcycle. I can pass from cell to cell through long highway tunnels and the GSM modem handles the connection recover transparently, pppd does not notice it. ok, we both see that behaviour. But if the pppd notice the failure (due LCP echo request timeout), it cannot recover. I had experience of PPP over DSL lines, where persist and holdoff parameters did the trick, but it seems that pppd on the FreeRunner has a bug. then i'd have to say i see that behaviour, too. at those times i bounce pppd manually, and the connection generally comes back fine. but if what you're saying is that when the underlying connection goes away long enough for pppd to notice, it doesn't autorecover, then i'd say i see the same thing. it just doesn't happen often enough to me that i've looked into it. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to how several apps may share the gps unit? I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers, so openmoocow and duke can't use them. Omnewrotate is useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the accelerometers. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
Tom Yates wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: I use a car lighter adapter :-) ah, ok. i don't have a car, and it's trickier to do the wiring on a motorcycle. You can have a cigarette lighter plug installed on a motorcycle too. If you don't want that, consider something simpler like connecting to the headlamp. Or the ignition switch. Just don't go directly to the battery, there should at least be a fuse between the adapter and the battery. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Fernando Martins wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest is what you want, but of course there are several latest images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and dec.17. The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload must have happened around midnight. Some of them are described here: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started This describes the difference between the lite image and the image that isn't lite. Basically, lite has fewer apps. So most users don't want lite, unless they want it as a basis for customization. Images with gta02 in them are for the neo freerunner, images with gta01 in them are for the older neo 1973. Images with very short names, such as shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 are just links to images with longer names. See the file sizes to see just which ones. Files with rootfs in their names are root file systems (contains standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want lite: openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system. Kernel images all start with uImage. The name contain gta01 or gta02, depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the newest that is correct for your phone. You may also want a modules file. If you get one, get the one that matches your kernel. If your kernel has oe03 and gta02 in the name, then so should the module file. The git part of the name should match too. Modules are extra drivers. You don't need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices to the phone. module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Base
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote: ... We also have opened a new base for information, updates and bug tracking: http://www.paroli-project.org Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
On Monday 12 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to how several apps may share the gps unit? I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers, so openmoocow and duke can't use them. Omnewrotate is useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the accelerometers. The gps unit itself is single access too - we use gpsd, gypsy or ogpsd to allow access by multiple apps. The same goes for (most) sound interfaces, with esd, pulseaudio and so on providing mediation for multiple apps. So far we don't have anything to do this with the accelerometers AFAIK. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO, Navit and more
Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? Thank you, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2145249.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ogsmd] Out-of-spec GSM number - who should I report to?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:28:09 +0100 g...@ergoarte.ch wrote: Hi, I am seeing this error: Jan 7 09:08:52 debian-gta02 2009.01.07 09:08:52 ogsmdWARNING Out-of-spec GSM number type seen: 160. Please report. This is binary b1010 which means according to GSM 03.40, page 35 type-of-number: National Number, numbering-plan-identification: Unknown It's definitely not out of spec and probably not even that unusual. The phonebookTupleToNumber function in gsm/const.py doesn't seem to be very smart. I started working on some functions for GSM addresses in the PDUAddress class in gsm/sms.py. In any case this shouldn't have any impact on functionality since it just prints out the warning. I would like to report this, but where? What extra information would be of interest? All FSO related bugs should go to http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ I experienced the same hangs that you mentioned recently. I'm unable to answer the phone and the phone will keep ringing forever. Please try to reproduce the problem with log_level set to DEBUG in [ogsmd] and post your log. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net writes: my battery won't last that long! Use $14 usb battery from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3060 :-) It seems to be able to fully recharge freerunner battery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume
Further tests show that 1. after resume, Navit does not get another GPS fix 2. leaving Navit open, and on forcing a cold start with agpsui, agpsui does not even see the time signal (I assume Navit blocks it), but this is enough for Navit to get a fix So at least there is a workaround. It would be nice if there was some primitive GPS UI built into Navit. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:42:37AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to how several apps may share the gps unit? I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers, so openmoocow and duke can't use them. Omnewrotate is useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the accelerometers. Hi, omnewrotate is quite blind to what is running. If you have an application which uses accelerometers you are much better off not running omnewrotate at the same time, regardless of solving the monopolization problem. Imagine it is solved: If the application uses the accelerometers then you may have some problems when you hit a position where it thinks it should rotate the screen. I can imagine how this would be a problem with Pingus, for instance. I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. Rui -- Or not. Today is Boomtime, the 12th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Base
Hi William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote: Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed. I changed the colors, thx for the tip :) /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Base
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 13:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote: Hi William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote: Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed. I changed the colors, thx for the tip :) /mirko much better. Thanks, BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge Hafting wrote: [an excellent and helpful text] Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that stage it was very good to read.. Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue): Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing images of SHR..? I used to flash the testing images (as linked to by the wiki[1]) but noticed the other folder the other day.. Cheers.. [1] http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Get%20Started -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Consultant's Creed If you think *I'm* expensive, wait until you hire an amateur. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
freeze on GTA02 with high CPU load
Hello, I just by a new FreeRunner and flash it with Om2008.12 (kernel, rootfs and u-boot) But I have big troubles with it : lcd and everything freeze. I use the default image and installed no package yet. After doing some tests, I can tell that : + seems ok when phone is charging and running idle (lcd on, suspend disabled) + when CPU is running at 100% during a couple of minutes then freezes. this happens easily while playing with contact list, location (moving in the map) or going inside installer. + when frozen, next reboots will fail and freeze during X init. I have to wait some time before being able to use it again. That makes the phone totally unusable. I think about something overheated, but nothing seems very hot. I checked battery temp value before phone freezes and is around 280. Is there any other temp counter I can check ? may I verify CPU voltage ? which other test should I do ? Any help would be appreciate. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Allegro the game library
Hi, As some of you may know, there's a game library called Allegro. It includes support for graphics (3d, but not accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc. It works, among others, on Linux using xorg for graphics. Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I think this game would be really cool played on the GTA using accelerometers. I'm thinking about porting it, but I don't really know where to start with porting Allegro. Any hints on how to do this and how hard it might be? I've never done any development for GTA, hence this question. BTW, it will be very easy to write new games if Allegro is fully ported. Thanks, Michal -- Promocja w Speak Up. 3 miesiace angielskiego gratis. Sprawdz teraz i wypelnij formularz! http://link.interia.pl/f2019 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Qwerty keyboard and wrench
Hi, Tried your patch now. It gives me the qwerty-button back, but it only toggles the qte-keyboard. Not the illume one. The wrench is till not there, so i have no way of changing it either. It should have been possible to define which keyboard to use via ssh. Life would bo so much easier then.. Not related to ypur patch: I cannot get rastermans keyboard to work in hte illume-theme either. Only the default illume one. Yet I have tried every guide in every wiki (well, almost, anyway) to get rastermans keyboard working. I do not understand this. Running OM2008.12, installed all availible updates buergi wrote: After using the neo for a while, again the qwerty keyboard disappears and I have to reboot to have it back. i've the same problem, but only sometimes, not very often. i've made a dirty patch package[1,2,3] for illume-theme-asu (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) a few days ago, it works great. most of the time there is even no need to set QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 anymore, but as you said i discovered that sometimes qtopia takes over and suddenly illume's keyboard is gone and the qtopia eyboard reapperars. after a rm -fr ~/.e ; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart the illume keyboard is back again. the reason is that illume sets kbd.use_internal=0 in illume.module.cfg, no idea why. this patch also brings back the wrench, but the problem is that the content of the subdialogs are shifted right, out of the visible area, see the screenshot[4]. i've no idea why that happens, or how to fix it, does anyone have an idea? buergi [1] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard_0.1_armv4t.opk [2] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard.tar.gz [3] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/howtos/howto_illume_kbd.txt [4] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/illume-cfg-dialog.jpg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-2008.12--Qwerty-keyboard-tp2018381p2145730.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
Niccolo Rigacci wrote: Hello, I cannot get a reliable GPRS connection lasting for some hours, while driving. There is a problem with pppd, which does not restart the gprs connection when failed: it seems that pppd options persist and holdoff are not honored. hmm my config is /etc/ppp/peers/gprs connect /etc/ppp/gprs-connect-chat disconnect /etc/ppp/gprs-disconnect-chat crtscts lock hide-password defaultroute usepeerdns ipcp-accept-local noauth noipdefault novj novjccomp replacedefaultroute lcp-echo-interval 3 lcp-echo-failure 12 ipcp-restart 10 persist holdoff 15 user beeline try this http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/585/gprssettings.py -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPRS-unreliable%3A-long-lasting-connection-fail-tp2143567p2145748.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO, Navit and more
Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account. I will file a bug report next time... Lothar sledge wrote: Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? Thank you, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2145763.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Allegro the game library
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Re: FSO, Navit and more
I have an account (Lollisoft), but lost my password. The trac seems to not have a lost password link. Did it ? Lothar lollisoft wrote: Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account. I will file a bug report next time... Lothar sledge wrote: Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? Thank you, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2145806.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community update
Hi! This is the nineth Community Updates, January 12th issue. For the new year we interviewed Sean on everything that matters for the community: sales in 2008 were around the low five digits, om-locations is what remains of an ambitious mesh network project, and the most surprising development to him was the explosion of distributions. Back on the mailing lists, activity was rater slow during the first week of the year, but got more intense than ever after the holidays. Illume's keyboard received lots of localisations. Opkg.org reached a critical mass of packages. SHR and FSO are counting down toward their next milestone, while coding continues for kernel, drivers, Android and the like. It looks like the switch to 2.6.28 is going to happen soonish, before the switch to the Paroli phone stack. The newsletter is also available with links at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/January_12th%2C_2009 Contents * 1 Distributions * 2 New applications * 3 Ports and updates * 4 Community * 5 Hardware and drivers * 6 Tips and tricks 1. Distributions * SHR: According to Julien's latest on the SHR project blog, the baby is expected really soon now. * Marek announced the new organisation of package and images repositories. * Android: The latest compatible kernel has wifi and bluetooth working now. Suspend and reboot are still broken. * FSO MS5 should branch out for really soon now (the roadmap says release January 31st, but they want a longer stabilization period this time). It will be the first milestone that will have support not only for GTA01 and 02, but also for the Motorola EZX A780. meeting minutes. * Hackable:1 buildbot is up and running. Images are generated every morning around 4:00. Happy testing ! * User:Bytestore has updated assemblage 2008.12 from Russian community, work with gprs, headphone jack plug, ru keyboard and many other things were updated (download rootfs, see screenshots) 2. New applications * LED clock When an Openmoko is sitting unused at night, turn it into an alarm clock with large 7-segment digits on a black background in landscape mode. * GPRSsettings is a GUI script designed to change apn, login, dialnumber. * Samuel's script for a toggle wifi icon. * ylock 0.1 Python screen lock and low battery monits. * AppManager 1.0.1 Zenity package manager. * Mirko announced that pre-alpha Paroli was now packaged in testing. Development moved to their own domain: paroli-project hosts trac, git, blog and documentation. * Kurt's Gwaterpas allows to use the Freerunner as a leveling tool. * There are now 75 packages at opkg.org. Novelties include osmupdater (updates OSM maps directory), sortdesk (sorts the desk), MokoCard (flashcards learning aid), sms-sentry (query the unit's location by SMS, handy if it was just stolen), pyring (a key ring), EFpLayer (mplayer GUI), playstankontakarta (an icon displaying remaining credit with POLISH PLAY pre-paid phone provider), various illume keyboards and more. It was mentioned unofficially that Openmoko's community repository is going to be dismantled. 3. Ports and updates * Lots of Navit activity. Distributions are kindly suggested to package the sample map separately from the main binary to conserve space. * The opkg package manager development moved from OM svn to Google code. The recommended stable version is r172, there is a significant data structures+algorithm refactorization going on. * Version 2.4 of orrery is now available. It has a new schematic Solar System View page, showing the position of the planets and our moon in their orbits, a new moon calendar, and a less ugly icon. * The ZOMG! package manager is now available on opkg.org, and now allows to add/remove/edit repositories (i.e. feeds). * Angus updated BtGPS.py to work with FSO. With this script, the FreeRunner works as a bluetooth GPS. * Marco shared his success in compiling the latest E17 svn on 2008.12. There was trouble on SHR with the Elementary widget set, tough. 4. Community * Sean's new year interview * Rakshat Hooja's company IDA Systems will be at Mumbai's TechFest. There are gifts waiting for the first 10 FreeRunner owners to show up at their booth! * The Future of location services thread started as an attempt to clarify the GPS drivers tangle, and then turned to using GSM celltowers and wifi access points location information. Dima signalled that there are several free databases of GSM tower locations, and that his gta02 Perl script to query OpenCellID for the approximate tower location, and then initialize the AGPS with this data works great. There is a database of Wifi access points at wigle.net. * Two new mailing lists were announced. One to discuss testing of all Openmoko Products. The other to discuss projects.openmoko.org administration. While we are at it, here are the number of
Re: Allegro the game library
Hello, --- On Mon, 1/12/09, ruso...@poczta.fm ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: As some of you may know, there's a game library called Allegro. It includes support for graphics (3d, but not accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc. It works, among others, on Linux using xorg for graphics. Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I think this game would be really cool played on the GTA using accelerometers. I'm thinking about porting it, but I don't really know where to start with porting Allegro. Any hints on how to do this and how hard it might be? I've never done any development for GTA, hence this question. BTW, it will be very easy to write new games if Allegro is fully ported. Liquid War uses Allegro so perhaps you could use the same Allegro armv4t package? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Liquid_War http://mojo.org.ua/moka/allegro_4.2.2-1_armv4t.ipk Regards, Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Function - Plotter for OM,
Hi out there, is there a function plotter for the Openmoko available? For drawing equations like x²+y2+5x-2y = 53,23 That would be really neat. Thanks a lot! Richy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Function - Plotter for OM,
Make a port of gnuplot Richy wrote: Hi out there, is there a function plotter for the Openmoko available? For drawing equations like x²+y2+5x-2y = 53,23 That would be really neat. Thanks a lot! Richy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: FSO, Navit and more
-Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de sledge Envoyé : lundi 12 janvier 2009 12:41 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : Re: FSO, Navit and more Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? http://trac.navit-project.org might be the right place. But i have no issues with the keyboard: just ensure that you enabled all settings recommanded for the FR in navit.xml (like buttons icons size). I can use it in portrait mode without issues (i could make a sshot later today). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: FSO, Navit and more
-Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de lollisoft Envoyé : lundi 12 janvier 2009 15:21 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : Re: FSO, Navit and more I have an account (Lollisoft), but lost my password. The trac seems to not have a lost password link. Did it ? It's now using the same accounts as the wiki (http://wiki.navit-project.org) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
Denis Galvão wrote: Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start screen? I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until the begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in background by pressing the Menu (power) button - Windows - New Window - Back (AUX) button ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
Helge Hafting wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more speed) and a lower framerate value... Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a multitude of options. But I didn't find this software_16 thing. Or does it require something beyond your /usr/e17/ tree? Something that might be lacking from SHR? SHR should use that rendering setting by default, in illume-.svn you've to go to the wrench - Advanced - Engine - Default Engine - SOFTWARE_16 ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
for sale: openmoko phone
Salut, Ive been sitting on an openmoko phone i bought when the website first came up in July/Aug 2008. It is in good shape given i hardly used it. Make me an offer in Ottawa - I will meet you at some coffee shop and exchange it for cash. cheers, jamal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix? On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM, jamal h...@cyberus.ca wrote: Salut, Ive been sitting on an openmoko phone i bought when the website first came up in July/Aug 2008. It is in good shape given i hardly used it. Make me an offer in Ottawa - I will meet you at some coffee shop and exchange it for cash. cheers, jamal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Very much appreciated, thanks. the obvious suggestion for the right person would be to have your reply as a readme file in the folder... Fernando Helge Hafting wrote: Fernando Martins wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest is what you want, but of course there are several latest images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and dec.17. The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload must have happened around midnight. Some of them are described here: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started This describes the difference between the lite image and the image that isn't lite. Basically, lite has fewer apps. So most users don't want lite, unless they want it as a basis for customization. Images with gta02 in them are for the neo freerunner, images with gta01 in them are for the older neo 1973. Images with very short names, such as shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 are just links to images with longer names. See the file sizes to see just which ones. Files with rootfs in their names are root file systems (contains standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want lite: openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system. Kernel images all start with uImage. The name contain gta01 or gta02, depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the newest that is correct for your phone. You may also want a modules file. If you get one, get the one that matches your kernel. If your kernel has oe03 and gta02 in the name, then so should the module file. The git part of the name should match too. Modules are extra drivers. You don't need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices to the phone. module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MD5 checksums for images
I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing?? Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 12:13 -0500, john dowd wrote: Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix? Mistakenly replied to the address on your signature. The phone is a freeruner/gta02 circa Aug/2008 - and I have not made any hardware mode to fix anything. If i understand correctly, with latest kernel images, those issues are resolved? cheers, jamal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume
jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
Further tests show that
1. after resume, Navit does not get another GPS fix
2. leaving Navit open, and on forcing a cold start with agpsui, agpsui
does not even see the time signal (I assume Navit blocks it), but this
is enough for Navit to get a fix
So at least there is a workaround.
As I wrote already, there is a bug in kernel GPS suspend/resume code which
leads to GPS not being powered after resume. Simply re-enable it manually via
Settings, or apply my patch sent to kernel list (but still not merged into git)
- http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-January/007447.html
I'm attaching also a version against stable.git for those still running 2.6.24..
Regards,
Vladimir
It would be nice if there was some primitive GPS UI built into Navit.
Regards
Jeff
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commit 98c1e4301f98d977443104d6206d8ebc91b18bf3
Author: Vladimir Koutny vl...@ksp.sk
Date: Mon Jan 5 14:16:01 2009 +0100
Fix re-enabling of GPS on resume
The call to gps_pwron_set(0) during suspend would clear power_was_on
flag so the on/off status was always lost
Signed-off-by: Vladimir Koutny vl...@ksp.sk
diff --git a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
index 73337fa..5ca6691 100644
--- a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
+++ b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
@@ -300,8 +300,6 @@ static void gps_pwron_set(int on)
if ((!on) (neo1973_gps.power_was_on))
regulator_disable(neo1973_gps.regulator);
}
-
- neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
}
static int gps_pwron_get(void)
@@ -358,13 +356,12 @@ static ssize_t power_gps_write(struct device *dev,
{
unsigned long on = simple_strtoul(buf, NULL, 10);
- if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, pwron))
-#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
-{
-#endif
+ if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, pwron)) {
gps_pwron_set(on);
+ neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
+ }
#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
- } else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_avdd_3v)) {
+ else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_avdd_3v)) {
gps_power_3v_set(on);
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_tcxo_2v8)) {
gps_power_2v8_set(on);
commit e96e0fbc123a1b6cbd8cef6f82dc559124cbcad5
Author: Vladimir Koutny vl...@ksp.sk
Date: Mon Jan 5 22:35:35 2009 +0100
Fix re-enabling of GPS on resume
The call to gps_pwron_set(0) during suspend would clear power_was_on
flag so the on/off status was always lost
Signed-off-by: Vladimir Koutny vl...@ksp.sk
diff --git a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
index a21b763..7d56562 100644
--- a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
+++ b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
@@ -271,9 +271,6 @@ static int gps_power_1v5_get(void)
/* This is the POWERON pin */
static void gps_pwron_set(int on)
{
-
- neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
-
#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
if (machine_is_neo1973_gta01())
neo1973_gpb_setpin(GTA01_GPIO_GPS_PWRON, on);
@@ -393,6 +390,7 @@ static ssize_t power_gps_write(struct device *dev,
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_avdd_3v)) {
gps_power_3v_set(on);
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, pwron)) {
+ neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
gps_pwron_set(on);
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, reset)) {
gps_rst_set(on);
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Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
Yeah... One more hack to be done... BTW, Im not sure if someone got the same Wifi scan success that I had. So I can scan for networks and (doing a copy paste procedure) start a new wifi wpa connection. The problem is dhcp that sometimes is not working properly and you need to force the DNS IP itself. Im using these files: freerunner-v3.jffs2 2009-Jan-12 01:50:1730.5M uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_android_458301db547e5375.bin 2009-Jan-09 16:58:552.4M From: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ Qi as bootloader. (2.4M kernel image) Who is behind those daily builds rootfs and kernel? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 12/01/2009, at 15:04, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Denis Galvão wrote: Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start screen? I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until the begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in background by pressing the Menu (power) button - Windows - New Window - Back (AUX) button ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume
2009/1/12 Vladimir Koutny vl...@moko.ksp.sk: As I wrote already, there is a bug in kernel GPS suspend/resume code which leads to GPS not being powered after resume. Simply re-enable it manually via Settings, or apply my patch sent to kernel list (but still not merged into git) - http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-January/007447.html Ah. I hadn't spotted that. Thanks for the info. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MD5 checksums for images
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:46:35PM +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing?? Whoever cares about MD5 checksums, nowadays, is putting up a farse, at least demand SHA256 ;) Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Boomtime, the 12th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 to OGG converter
Le 14254ième jour après Epoch, rakshat hooja écrivait: Can someone suggest a good MP3 to OGG music converter? There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:08:47 -0500 jamal h...@cyberus.ca wrote: I just made a call using my Fido sim-card and i am told there's still some huge echo and someone else mentioned the infamous buzz. Would that buzz not require one of those hardware mods? cheers, jamal echo is solved by a software fix, buzz requires a hardware fix (but personally I didn't encounter the buzz issue yet) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
turning wifi off
Hello, I think this applies to all distros. It's still a big mistery for me how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power. Or even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on again. I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on in Om2008.12. I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy to use it. Thanks, Michal -- Speak Up. Angielski szybko i skutecznie. 3 miesiace nauki gratis. Sprawdz. http://link.interia.pl/f2019 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 23:13 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: echo is solved by a software fix, buzz requires a hardware fix (but personally I didn't encounter the buzz issue yet) Ok, Called the person again and says it is not a buzz - rather an echo. In the past before this upgrade he used to get a buzz. So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix? Kernel upgrade? 2.6.24 feels so old. cheers, jamal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: turning wifi off
2009/1/13 Michał Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: I think this applies to all distros. It's still a big mistery for me how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power. Or even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on again. I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on in Om2008.12. I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy to use it. some simple scripts here, including wifi on/off (properly) which apparently work well. i'm giving them a go myself later today: http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: turning wifi off
Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/1/13 Michał Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: I think this applies to all distros. It's still a big mistery for me how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power. Or even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on again. I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on in Om2008.12. I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy to use it. some simple scripts here, including wifi on/off (properly) which apparently work well. i'm giving them a go myself later today: http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 ___ Ah, so according to the scripts it's 'iwconfig eth0 txpower off' I'll give it a try tomorrow. -- Szef przynudza? Zagraj sobie! Kliknij http://link.interia.pl/f200e ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR: contacts locked and terminal without keyboard
Thanks, finally I have (at least) a basic phone functioning, with SHR! Next step, GPS. Klaus Kurzmann wrote: * Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl [090112 23:14]: I just flashed SHR latest (2008-12-16) but when I went to contacts and pressed New it stopped responding. I could not kill it with illume. I went then to the terminal, however it misses a keyboard. How can I get one? if you tap on the illume top bar you will find a qwerty button that switches the keyboard on and off. Should it be possible to add new contacts to the Contacts app? yes. Regards, Fernando mrmoku ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
i'm confused
i want to try fso i can find a jffs but not a kernel .bin. link anyone? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail). chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: i'm confused
2009/1/13 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: i want to try fso i can find a jffs but not a kernel .bin. link anyone? i presume you mean you can find a rootfs for kernel: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/ bottom of the page ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: i'm confused
2009/1/13 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: you presume correctly. thanks! I just tried the debian script, install and it failed thus: E: Partitioning has failed, partitions have not been created have a look on the debian wiki, there are solutions for most installation problems as an aside, i have to say, you appear to be jumping from distro to distro, not getting anywhere, then moving on again neither of the distros works out of the box - they all need some work, and all have some issues, but try not to get frustrated by this imo, you'd be better off trying one, and sticking with it for a while, then later on looking at what it doesn't do for your needs and possible moving on ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] GPS from python
Hi all :) Could someone explain me which is the most easy way to catch lat, lon and time from GPS after the fix, using Python? I use gpsd, TangoGPS etc, and I'm working on a Python app for OpenStreetMap smart tagging in real time ;) I installed python-pygps but it appears that no infos are available after the fix, so it appears to me pretty useless. Any tip / faq / man? Regards, -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: turning wifi off
It looks like wifi can be turned on and off using the framework now. It uses wmiconfig as below: wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable See: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.html;hb=HEAD http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=59855d9afbcf60f19b31042bfd95528b8f165419 Peter. Michał Brzozowski wrote: Hello, I think this applies to all distros. It's still a big mistery for me how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power. Or even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on again. I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on in Om2008.12. I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy to use it. Thanks, Michal -- Speak Up. Angielski szybko i skutecznie. 3 miesiace nauki gratis. Sprawdz. http://link.interia.pl/f2019 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which stacks have the most complete python implementation?
both in terms of the standard python libraries and openmoko access? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:07:45AM -0800, bytestore wrote: lcp-echo-interval 3 lcp-echo-failure 12 ipcp-restart 10 persist holdoff 15 I suggest you the maxfail 0, if chat fails you get only 10 tries. This is mine: ... lcp-echo-interval 20 lcp-echo-failure 9 maxfail 0 holdoff 1 persist Here it is a pppd log, after the Connect script failed, nothing more succeeded. Jan 11 15:29:32 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 712), status = 0x0 Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: No response to 9 echo-requests Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Serial link appears to be disconnected. Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Connect time 4.3 minutes. Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Sent 2871 bytes, received 628 bytes. Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: restoring old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200] Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 792) Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 Peer not responding] Jan 11 15:33:47 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 792), status = 0x0 Jan 11 15:33:49 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x4 Peer not responding] Jan 11 15:33:52 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Connection terminated. Jan 11 15:33:52 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Modem hangup Jan 11 15:33:54 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Serial port initialized. Jan 11 15:35:01 om-gta02 daemon.err pppd[670]: Connect script failed -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: turning wifi off
Peter Strapp wrote: It looks like wifi can be turned on and off using the framework now. It uses wmiconfig as below: wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable See: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.html;hb=HEAD Nice... Shouldn't it use also wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0 to allow scanning and connecting again? BTW the 2.6.28 kernel should have also another way to disable the wlan by using a /sys node (if I don't remember wrong, it should do something like a rmmod wifi-module, insmod wifi-module). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:47:14 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Soon, I'd like to give a newer try to guarana and enjoy (not forgetting the latest elemetary stuffs!)... :P Bye... ;) Thank you for this. :) Please post Elementary when you can - it's utilized for Raster's Alarm as well as the SHR telephony apps. Ok, btw I'm not so sure that the crashes you've witht the SHR tools are due to that library only... Maybe they simply have been linked with an older library, so there could be a symbols incompatibility. Maybe removing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable could fix this issue (so making the non-e apps using the /usr/lib libraries)... I've not tested it so much since I'm using an Om2008-based distro and there some efl apps (like neon) crashes too. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freeze on GTA02 with high CPU load
Jean-Philippe Andriot wrote: I just by a new FreeRunner and flash it with Om2008.12 (kernel, rootfs and u-boot) But I have big troubles with it : lcd and everything freeze. I use the default image and installed no package yet. After doing some tests, I can tell that : + seems ok when phone is charging and running idle (lcd on, suspend disabled) + when CPU is running at 100% during a couple of minutes then freezes. this happens easily while playing with contact list, location (moving in the map) or going inside installer. + when frozen, next reboots will fail and freeze during X init. I have to wait some time before being able to use it again. That makes the phone totally unusable. This seems an issue really similar to the one I had (if you look around in the archives you should find my reports)... I never noticed the CPU usage, but simply the phone freezed after some usage due to a glamo issue... If this is the problem, there's a patch on git that fixes it but I don't know if it has been applied to the Om2008.12 kernel. Give a try to this kernel image [1] (that I've compiled with the fix that works for me), and let me know if you still get these freezes. Bye [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture-2.bin -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine. However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning elementary). -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner at Techfest, IIT Mumbai
I am pleased to announce that IDA has formally signed a MOU with the Indian Institute of Technology, Mumbai to sponsor the Open Hardware, Open Software and Open Design contests at the Techfest 2009. Techfest (running from 24th Jan to 26th Jan at IIT, Mumbai) is one of the main student level technology events in India with students from over 1500 colleges participating in various activities and events (see www.techfest.org) As part of the sponsorship deal we get a display area where we will be primarly displaying the Freerunner. Everyone in the area is welcome to visit our booth and we are also looking forward to meet the freerunner users in Mumbai. As already mentioned Free extra batteries for the first 10 FR owners who visit us at techfest. Mail me off list for coordinating meetings. Regards, Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which stacks have the most complete python implementation?
both in terms of the standard python libraries and openmoko access? Debian. Because almost every python library is available as a debian package. And all that may be immediately installed on Debian-based Freerunner. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine. However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning elementary). The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably getting set, or changed, after the GUI is run but is properly set for terminal sessions. Try writing a script that sets the proper environment and then run the apps from the GUI using that script. If it works then you need to find where in the GUI setup the environment is getting changed. Angus -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine. However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning elementary). The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably getting set, or changed, after the GUI is run but is properly set for terminal sessions. Try writing a script that sets the proper environment and then run the apps from the GUI using that script. If it works then you need to find where in the GUI setup the environment is getting changed. If you've changed the /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe as I've suggested, surely the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is affected. So, removing that parameter from there would fix the issues, since e17 should take the E_PREFIX var to get the needed libraries from the /usr/e17 path. I've just tested this in my Om2008 environment, and now I can run with no problem my old efl apps (neon, omview, om-settings...). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I'm currently playing by setting control.45 - De-emphasis to 48khz to get some sort of a bass boost. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: adding a large cap somewhere Joerg /DocScrutinizer told me once on IRC the value, but don't know where to place it, better aks him On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Which is...? -- Marcel Am Sunday 11 January 2009 22:04:20 schrieb Yorick Moko: there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger krose...@schmidham.net wrote: Hi Christoph, On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add the capacitor :) I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer them, please :) cu Korbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
OK! Got it. In my GUI, LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to /usr/etc/e17: while in SSH it was empty. I wrote a script that simply unsets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and runs the first parameter and it works. :D I just added it to the commands to run in all the .desktop files, and voila! It's fixed (dirtily, but effectively). Here's the script, if anyone wants to copy it. It's hardly worth copying though, it's so simple #!/bin/bash unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH $1 -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?
browser choices? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
