Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi ! thanks a lot for this tool, it works great !! One idea of improvement : Play mid file with the corresponding note when clicking on one of the 6 button. This way, we can approach the note faster, and then use the vu meter to adjust it. Kimaidou 2009/2/3 Natanael natana...@gmx.de Natanael wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for guitartune: * libfftw3-3 * on SHR, where can I find libfftw3-3? I've searched in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ but couldn't find it. Which distribution do you use? Ok, thankyou I've found my answer on http://www.opkg.org/package_115.html opkg install libglade-2.0 gtk+ http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk http://www.opkg.org/packages/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu eMail: natanaela _at_ gmx.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
Hi all I think this idea is great. I am using SHR from the start, and now I installed Hackable 1 on my SDcard (I need a PIM solution). So I miss the goodies in www.opkg.org. My proposal : Could it be possible to add a new functionality in opkg.org : For each software listed, add a new information which would be : * the deb package when existing * some idea of replacement (debian has a huge amount of applications) if no deb. If the author and maintaner of opkg.org read this post : What do you think ? Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Do you mean this one? http://openinventionnetwork.com/ heck, no. if i read that right they too work by taking out patents. looked again and found it (it's the eff itself) http://www.eff.org/patent/wanted/ i am all for invalidating such patents, not patent something yourself instead -- be it for what good cause ever. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 09:55, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. one at a time but it can change whenever it wants, and even during call. Also I there is no easy way to know what band you are currently using. Yes some others answers (buzz...) may be affected by the band in use, but also by a lot of other factors (signal strength, provider, ...). Who will know all these parameters for all specific behaviour of his freerunner ? And creating a new record for every combination is not really an option anyway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas I'm not sure what the FR uses, because 2008.12 doesn't display cell info (if I could see the cell info I could tell which one the phone is currently using (900 or 1800) because, when it uses 1800 there's number 8 in the cell name). But with other phones it's so that it changes when I move around. When 1800 MHz is available then it uses this and otherwise it uses 900 MHz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script to convert from one to the other. i did it once. rename the opkg to deb, run alien -r -c the.deb alien -d -c the.rpm problem is, that most of the dependencies get lost while transforming, so you need to check beforehand. has anyone beaten me to it? would you like to? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FOSDEM
Hey Ed, zien we je dit weekend op FOSDEM in Brussel? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 11:12 +0200, Margo Koppelmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas I'm not sure what the FR uses, because 2008.12 doesn't display cell info (if I could see the cell info I could tell which one the phone is currently using (900 or 1800) because, when it uses 1800 there's number 8 in the cell name). But with other phones it's so that it changes when I move around. When 1800 MHz is available then it uses this and otherwise it uses 900 MHz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Margo, You can find out the cell id with the following chat script. ( asuming you use gsm0710muxd ) TIMEOUT 15 ATE0 ABORT BUSY ABORT DELAYED ABORT NO ANSWER ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT VOICE ABORT ERROR ABORT RINGING OK AT+CMGF=1 OK AT+CREG=2 OK AT+CREG? OK AT+CREG=0 CLR_ABORT ABORT OK Save it to /tmp/chatscript and run MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string | awk -F '' '{ print $2 }') # the above is 1 line chat -s -S -V -v -f /tmp/chatscript ${MODEM} ${MODEM} This will give you the cellid and LAC in hex. Is this the same as the cell name? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
Hi, The paroli version used in MS5 seems very very old (in paroli terms) I will try to get it updated. /mirko Marc Bantle wrote: Hi, I just installed FSO M5. Are the paroli-apps that come with M5 supposed to work ? I always get the following error: root INFO launch Paroli-Contacts parent != None: tichy.gui_paroli.Screen object at 0x2c4190 root ERRORapplication Paroli-Contacts failed : 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj' root ERRORTraceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/paroli-launcher, line 213, in launch yield app(self.screen) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw value = self.generator.throw(type, value, traceback) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/application.py, line 73, in do_run ret = yield super(Application, self).do_run(window, *args, **kargs) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/tasklet.py, line 147, in send value = self.generator.send(value) File /usr/share/paroli/applications/paroli-contacts/paroli-contacts.py, line 47, in run self.main.etk_obj.title_set('Paroli Contacts') AttributeError: 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj' How do I supply that etk_obj-attribute? Cheers, Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
We bundled it in the image so that the Paroli team can base on MS5. We did not test it though. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Margo, You can find out the cell id with the following chat script. ( asuming you use gsm0710muxd ) TIMEOUT 15 ATE0 ABORT BUSY ABORT DELAYED ABORT NO ANSWER ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT VOICE ABORT ERROR ABORT RINGING OK AT+CMGF=1 OK AT+CREG=2 OK AT+CREG? OK AT+CREG=0 CLR_ABORT ABORT OK Save it to /tmp/chatscript and run MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string | awk -F '' '{ print $2 }') # the above is 1 line chat -s -S -V -v -f /tmp/chatscript ${MODEM} ${MODEM} This will give you the cellid and LAC in hex. Is this the same as the cell name? Kind regards, Ed (First time it went only to Ed. I'm sending it again. Sorry.) I think that is not the same. I don't know how it is called. But my old nokia phone shows it on the home screen. And in the nokia's settings menu it is called cell info display. In my network it is usually the name of the place where the cell tower locates and some number (and when it's 1800MHz there is a number 8). But I found out how I can see what frequency the FR is currently using ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 ). I put AT%EM=2,1 in your chat script. Like this: TIMEOUT 15 ATE0 ABORT BUSY ABORT DELAYED ABORT NO ANSWER ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT VOICE ABORT ERROR ABORT RINGING OK AT%EM=2,1 CLR_ABORT ABORT OK (I don't know if all these other lines are necessary). It says my Current Channel Number is 49. So according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 my FR is currently using 900 MHz. I'll see if that changes if I go somewhere else. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko is hiring
Hi everybody, Monday was the first day after Chinese New Year, and the first day in our new office in Xindian, a bit outside of Taipei, in the vicinity of many other interesting tech companies. So far we find lots of good restaurants all around, very nice... Two pictures from the new office http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view1.jpg http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view2.jpg In the second one you can see Taipei 101 in the background (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_101 ). If you want to stop by for a coffee, please feel free to do so. The address is 9F, No.276, Jiang-Guo Rd. Hsin-Tien City, Taipei County 231 Taiwan Now that we are in our new office, and in the new Chinese year, recruiting will become a much bigger focus for us. We have even hired a full-time recruiter, who worked for our parent company FIC before. She will start next week. The open positions are mostly hardware positions in Taipei, but even though the readers on these lists probably live outside of Taiwan, I wanted to share the information so you know what's going on in Taipei. Foreigners willing to move to Taipei are also welcome, we can help with work permits etc. Without going into too many details, some of the open positions in Taipei are Electrical Engineer, QA Engineer, QA Manager, RF Engineer, Production Engineer, Software Engineer (low-level / kernel). There is one open position right now we are looking to add anywhere in the world: *** Paroli Project Member *** For details, see http://www.paroli-project.org/ If you believe you can make a difference in Paroli, bring the power of Python to an embedded device, please get in touch with me. Best Regards, Wolfgang ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi, Richard Guest wrote: That new package has the project .svn entries in it still... Yup :-D I was wondering how it became so big suddenly ~750k - 1.5M. Thanks. Have removed the .svn entries. Updated packages are available at the usual locations. kimaidou wrote: Play mid file with the corresponding note when clicking on one of the 6 button. This way, we can approach the note faster, and then use the vu meter to adjust it. Thank You for the idea. Will implement it soon enough. Need to split the GUI and the DSP part into 2 different threads first. Also - I'll need to learn how to generate a tone using MIDI under alsa :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-Release-of-GuitarTune-v0.20-%28based-on-Alsa%29-tp2263173p2268600.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko is hiring
Wolfgang Spraul пишет: Hi everybody, Monday was the first day after Chinese New Year, and the first day in our new office in Xindian, a bit outside of Taipei, in the vicinity of many other interesting tech companies. So far we find lots of good restaurants all around, very nice... Two pictures from the new office http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view1.jpg http://people.openmoko.org/wolfgang/xindian_office_view2.jpg In the second one you can see Taipei 101 in the background (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_101 ). Nice. Glad to hear that the best opensource company doing well. If you want to stop by for a coffee, please feel free to do so. The address is 9F, No.276, Jiang-Guo Rd. Hsin-Tien City, Taipei County 231 Taiwan Now that we are in our new office, and in the new Chinese year, recruiting will become a much bigger focus for us. We have even hired a full-time recruiter, who worked for our parent company FIC before. She will start next week. The open positions are mostly hardware positions in Taipei, but even though the readers on these lists probably live outside of Taiwan, I wanted to share the information so you know what's going on in Taipei. Foreigners willing to move to Taipei are also welcome, we can help with work permits etc. Without going into too many details, some of the open positions in Taipei are Electrical Engineer, QA Engineer, QA Manager, RF Engineer, Production Engineer, Software Engineer (low-level / kernel). There is one open position right now we are looking to add anywhere in the world: *** Paroli Project Member *** For details, see http://www.paroli-project.org/ Paroli sounds just like Passwords in russian =) If you believe you can make a difference in Paroli, bring the power of Python to an embedded device, please get in touch with me. Best Regards, Wolfgang ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com wrote: I've just tried the image on my SD card (no qi, then, I guess), and if fails all the same. Ok, I tried again (my FR's battery being depleted in the meantime), and here's the results. My FR is using uBoot, boots nicely on the internal flash (on which there is FSO M4.1) and used to boot nicely on the SD card (at least with the previous milestone). I fetched both a tarball [1] of M5 and a kernel [2]. I expanded the tarball in /media/mmcblk0p2/ (as it is mounted on M4.1) after making sure the said filesystem was empty. I then moved my freshly downloaded kernel image into /media/card/uImage.bin (should be the first partition of the SD card, IIRC). From there, I both tried to boot the SD card from the NAND and NOR menus, and each time it ends up being unable to write anything on the filesystem (eventually failing to launch X), which sounds pretty similar to the Qi problem described here. Would anyone have an idea on how to fix that? There should be a way to explain uBoot how to deal with this, but I don't know it yet... Thanks. [1] openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz [2] uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm just adding some patches and doing some cleaning on it, I'll update | the moredrivers kernels at http://people.openmoko.org/andy when I | checked we didn't break the threshold stuff. | | Thanks, in the moredrivers kernel the accs are working now. But now I have the | following problems. | | When I use Qi it says it is not able to set some permissions and then hangs in | Angstroem login screen and I can not SSH into it. I also tried this from the | mailing list: | | Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is needed as | kernel parameters in there - here is mine: | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 Make sure you have the rw in there, and the /boot/append-GTA02 is in the partition with the rootfs. Try adding a space before the rw in case I mangled it with recent changes. It's a bug I think if the rootfs does not remount root rw. | When I use U-boot I have to change the boot environment because it's bigger | than 2 MB. I do that the following way: | setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}; nand read.e 0x3200 kernel; | bootm 0x3200 | | Then I would normally save the environment with saveenv but the system boots | immediately after the setenv command. So how can I save it? You need to escape the ; with backslashes. Your setenv is only setting the text as far as the first ; as it stands, then taking the nand and bootm as new commands and running them right away. | Then it boots sucessfully but I can not ssh into the freerunner with message: | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host What does ifconfig -a route -n say? dmesg on the PC side? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmJmq4ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr14ACfejv9eU6ErxHb9sTYZA4/vDy+ NDsAoI7zhHSKUlutgqz5xnoKUjwYQhl5 =WLi6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
QI Make sure you have the rw in there, and the /boot/append-GTA02 is in the partition with the rootfs. Try adding a space before the rw in case I mangled it with recent changes. It's a bug I think if the rootfs does not remount root rw. the same failed to set owner root for /var/volatile/cache/ the same failed to set mode 0755 for /var/volatile/cache/ UBOOT You need to escape the ; with backslashes. Your setenv is only setting the text as far as the first ; as it stands, then taking the nand and bootm as new commands and running them right away. I did the following: r...@x:~# chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyACM0 r...@x:~# cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 GTA02v5 # setenv bootcmd setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} \${mtdparts}\; nand read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30\; bootm 0x3200 GTA02v5 # saveenv Saving Environment to NAND... Erasing Nand...GTA02v5 # If I now choose boot from the bootloader it boots fine, But after a reboot I have to do the same again it, it doesn't save it. What does ifconfig -a lo ... pan0 ... usb0 Link encap:Ethernet Hwaddr DA:DF:7E:17:08:9A UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metrik:1 RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:9792 (9.7 KB) TX bytes:4140 (4.1 KB) route -n Kernel-IP-routingtable DestGateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface say? dmesg on the PC side? [23821.176092] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 108 [23821.384140] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices [23821.392754] usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1a.0-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 9e:08:34:97:d5:f8 [23834.084104] usb0: no IPv6 routers present Thanks again for helping regards Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | QI | | Make sure you have the rw in there, and the /boot/append-GTA02 is in | the partition with the rootfs. Try adding a space before the rw in case | I mangled it with recent changes. | | It's a bug I think if the rootfs does not remount root rw. | | | the same failed to set owner root for /var/volatile/cache/ | the same failed to set mode 0755 for /var/volatile/cache/ Hum meant to be a tmpfs there. You should be able to mount on one a ro filesystem AFAIK. | UBOOT | | You need to escape the ; with backslashes. Your setenv is only setting | the text as far as the first ; as it stands, then taking the nand and | bootm as new commands and running them right away. | I did the following: | r...@x:~# chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyACM0 | r...@x:~# cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 | GTA02v5 # setenv bootcmd setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} \${mtdparts}\; | nand read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30\; bootm 0x3200 | GTA02v5 # saveenv | Saving Environment to NAND... | Erasing Nand...GTA02v5 # | | If I now choose boot from the bootloader it boots fine, | But after a reboot I have to do the same again it, it doesn't save it. If you come up in NOR U-Boot it doesn't seem to impact NAND environment, no idea why but nothing can be done about it now. So if that's the case try whatever dance of death needed to get a console on NAND U-Boot and do the same there. | usb0 Link encap:Ethernet Hwaddr DA:DF:7E:17:08:9A | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metrik:1 | RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | Collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | RX bytes:9792 (9.7 KB) TX bytes:4140 (4.1 KB) Well there's no IP on usb0. ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up should help with that. If this is with a kernel with the Ethernet gadget built as a module, I wonder if there's a race somewhere between inserting the module and trying to bring up the interface in initscripts. | route -n | Kernel-IP-routingtable | DestGateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface | | say? dmesg on the PC side? | [23821.176092] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address | 108 | [23821.384140] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices | [23821.392754] usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1a.0-1, CDC Ethernet | Device, 9e:08:34:97:d5:f8 | [23834.084104] usb0: no IPv6 routers present It's pretty happy otherwise. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmJtDQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrr2QCfagr27Pwb490AIw4UZA2NfOeF 5sUAmwYm0OSNaOFi1DtSfyiMxN/aR16b =f2cW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
Hi! ok - so if a young person typed: Öt szép szűz it'd be: Ot szep szuz ((btw, the meaning of Öt szép szűz lány őrült írót nyúz is Five virgins tire a crazy writer. It is the hungarian synonym of The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)) Yes, and in that specific case works. (because none of the above words (Ot, szep, szuz) has a meaning in hungarian language, so you can understand that example without accent.) But there are other cases, where it is not that clear: ólt - pound (accusative) ölt - he killed ... olt - to graft So when you see olt in the text you cant be sure it is olt, ólt or ölt without analysing the whole sentence. The german example is two-way conversion: ü - ue, ß - ss. You can switch back and for without losing additional information. A simple word based dictionary is limited anyway for the hungarian language, where you can create a word as long as this: elkelkáposztástalaníthatatlanságoskodásaitokért. ugh. so its like german. compound words get created a lot by just stringing multiple words together without a space. that's ok- as long as there arent a massive set of them... :) But there are. Because this language is agglutinative. I explain a bit the difficulty. In german you can create the following word: wood [en] - Holz [de] - fa [hu] house [en] - Haus [de] - ház [hu] wood house [en] - Holzhaus [de] - faház [hu] So you glued together house and wood in one word. (this is your example: stringing together without space) In german you can even create words of one verb plus a modifier, like: to work [en], arbeiten [de], dolgoz [hu] to ply [en], bearbeiten (be+arbeiten) [de], megdolgoz (meg+dolgoz) [hu] It is the same process;) There are many example of this: to link together[en], anschliessen (an+schliessen) [de] - összekapcsol (össze+kapcsol) [hu], to buy up [en], aufkaufen (auf+kaufen) - felvásárol (fel+vásárol) [hu] But in hungarian language, we glue together everything, some example: in house [en], im Haus [de], házban (ház+ban) [hu] car [en], Wagen [de], kocsi [hu] our car [en], unseren Wagen (unser+en Wagen) [de], kocsinkat (kocsi+(u/ü)nk+(a/á/e/é)t) [hu] So the possibilities are nearly infinite. Without analysing the sentence and the word, you cant find the root word with correct accent. And finding the root word requires a spell checker (the best available is hunspell for the hungarian language) Summary: - Losing the accents (in hungarian) most of the time results in contradiction. - Need a spell checker to suggesting the right accented word. (see: http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/) So creating an architecture for spell checker is not a bad idea (for future extensibility). It could be handy for english too. But for other language (ex: hungarian) maybe essential. Sorry for being so tiresome. Best regards, Khiraly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
I zapped into this thread because it was only one new mail in the om-community folder and clicking it was the simplest way to mark it as read. Somehow I got curious what that strange (hungarian) sentence has to do with om and found a nice pack of information about your (?) language... Very interesting mail, that's what I love the free software world for. :) -- Marcel Am Wednesday 04 February 2009 16:37:56 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: Hi! ok - so if a young person typed: Öt szép szűz it'd be: Ot szep szuz ((btw, the meaning of Öt szép szűz lány őrült írót nyúz is Five virgins tire a crazy writer. It is the hungarian synonym of The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)) Yes, and in that specific case works. (because none of the above words (Ot, szep, szuz) has a meaning in hungarian language, so you can understand that example without accent.) But there are other cases, where it is not that clear: ólt - pound (accusative) ölt - he killed ... olt - to graft So when you see olt in the text you cant be sure it is olt, ólt or ölt without analysing the whole sentence. The german example is two-way conversion: ü - ue, ß - ss. You can switch back and for without losing additional information. A simple word based dictionary is limited anyway for the hungarian language, where you can create a word as long as this: elkelkáposztástalaníthatatlanságoskodásaitokért. ugh. so its like german. compound words get created a lot by just stringing multiple words together without a space. that's ok- as long as there arent a massive set of them... :) But there are. Because this language is agglutinative. I explain a bit the difficulty. In german you can create the following word: wood [en] - Holz [de] - fa [hu] house [en] - Haus [de] - ház [hu] wood house [en] - Holzhaus [de] - faház [hu] So you glued together house and wood in one word. (this is your example: stringing together without space) In german you can even create words of one verb plus a modifier, like: to work [en], arbeiten [de], dolgoz [hu] to ply [en], bearbeiten (be+arbeiten) [de], megdolgoz (meg+dolgoz) [hu] It is the same process;) There are many example of this: to link together[en], anschliessen (an+schliessen) [de] - összekapcsol (össze+kapcsol) [hu], to buy up [en], aufkaufen (auf+kaufen) - felvásárol (fel+vásárol) [hu] But in hungarian language, we glue together everything, some example: in house [en], im Haus [de], házban (ház+ban) [hu] car [en], Wagen [de], kocsi [hu] our car [en], unseren Wagen (unser+en Wagen) [de], kocsinkat (kocsi+(u/ü)nk+(a/á/e/é)t) [hu] So the possibilities are nearly infinite. Without analysing the sentence and the word, you cant find the root word with correct accent. And finding the root word requires a spell checker (the best available is hunspell for the hungarian language) Summary: - Losing the accents (in hungarian) most of the time results in contradiction. - Need a spell checker to suggesting the right accented word. (see: http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/) So creating an architecture for spell checker is not a bad idea (for future extensibility). It could be handy for english too. But for other language (ex: hungarian) maybe essential. Sorry for being so tiresome. Best regards, Khiraly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
Hello, Some weeks ago there was a discussion about an application which updated (crawled) your local installed OSM data... what is the state now of this, is it ready for use (there have been bugs, if I remember correctly); thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? | | i have flashed u-boot and it starts OK. reflashed qi and have the | problem again. interestingly enough i tried to boot fso from nor menu | once and then qi was able to boot it ok afterwards. so i am not sure | what exactly happens there for the first time... | | the trouble is that i don't know how to change the ro flag for qi (i | can imagine i could place a kernel on my card and add append file with | rw and root=/dev/mtd device and of the nand flash?) Yes it can work, but you need root=/dev/mtdblock... Having rootfs mount ro initially is a safety feature, it'd be sad if we have to take it out because the rootfs can't manage doing a mount /dev/root / -oremount,rw in the initscripts. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmJdUMACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpNzACfdZ8JCjQUISC/T+lY0S0DAhIw XZoAn2rmqjlO7L+/YdkETA+2uU29ABDW =+Ae5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
If you come up in NOR U-Boot it doesn't seem to impact NAND environment, no idea why but nothing can be done about it now. So if that's the case try whatever dance of death needed to get a console on NAND U-Boot and do the same there. After using the devirginator the same procedure worked. ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up Finally this made my day. I never had to do that before. Thank you very much for your fast and qualified help. All the best Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Dylan Reilly wrote: I am still in the process of making changes, but I have some packages if anyone wants to try it. This version has the option of using a gstreamer back-end (the default with the packaged config file) instead of mplayer. By using gstreamer, CPU and memory load have been reduced, Before, mplayer took 40%-50% of cpu according to top. Now, pythm-bin uses 48%-49% instead. This when playing stereo .ogg The transitions are perfect though. Good for The Wall, where background sound sometimes go on from one song to the next. [...] [1] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/audio/pythm_0.5.1-dmr-20090129_armv4t.ipk [2] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/audio/mutagen_svn-4350_armv4t.ipk In the mean time, I will keep hacking away at it. Thank you for doing this - the player is getting really good now. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
Some weeks ago there was a discussion about an application which updated (crawled) your local installed OSM data... what is the state now of this, is it ready for use (there have been bugs, if I remember correctly); thx I found Yaouh[1] to do a nice job for my TangoGPS.. :) still kinda slow, but at least I had no major problems.. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - Pablo Picasso (1881-1973) -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Olivier Migeot wrote (ao): Would anyone have an idea on how to fix that? There should be a way to explain uBoot how to deal with this, but I don't know it yet... Isn't this just a bug in FSO MS5 and shouldn't we wait until MS5.1 gets released? I would rather not leave qi and have downgraded to MS4.1 again. With kind regards, Sander -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTE] better kernel?
Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, Good luck then, if you like, can you please share the images when reay? Rgrds Chris I´ve been trying to compile (FSO builds perfectly, however, QtExtended does not), and so far, I don´t have positive results. QtE fails to build because it doesn´t find libdbus-1 (even though I´ve got both libdbus-1 and libdbus-1-devel installed). So if anyone got any tips on how to compile QtE properly i would really appreciate it. By the way, I´ve already patched the sources according to the guide at mwester´s. regards Tom -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTE--better-kernel--tp2258618p2269187.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
I'm just adding some patches and doing some cleaning on it, I'll update the moredrivers kernels at http://people.openmoko.org/andy when I checked we didn't break the threshold stuff. Thanks, in the moredrivers kernel the accs are working now. But now I have the following problems. When I use Qi it says it is not able to set some permissions and then hangs in Angstroem login screen and I can not SSH into it. I also tried this from the mailing list: Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 When I use U-boot I have to change the boot environment because it's bigger than 2 MB. I do that the following way: setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}; nand read.e 0x3200 kernel; bootm 0x3200 Then I would normally save the environment with saveenv but the system boots immediately after the setenv command. So how can I save it? Then it boots sucessfully but I can not ssh into the freerunner with message: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host Any hint? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTE] better kernel?
Hi, Chris, I am using QTE 4.4.2 with the testing kernel from http://downloads.openmoko.org/testing/daily. It's almost perfect except wifi. You can try it. You can also use this image http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with_voip+jabber+gtalk+SystemRingTones.jffs2. This one has working bluetooth and rings. Fantastic! On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | I used so far the uImage-gta02-gc7283981_mwester-stable.bin , it works ok , | except the battery icon animates like is being charged (this happens when I | boot the FR, I could fix this, by connecting the charger for 1-2 sec). | | Today, I tried the | uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-b72d8b4c5b7173a1.bin, the battery | icon is stable, but the PM crashes when I go to the power settings. (as I | see, I cannot even change the brightness) | | So, is there any kernel that works ok with the QTE 4.4.2 ? I guess the PM GUI stuff is choking simply because it doesn't know about the new /sys paths in 2.6.28+ for this. There are several known problems in 2.6.24 branch we won't fix that are fixed in andy-tracking. So the recommended path for any distro to get best performance is to uplevel to distro to work with andy-tracking. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHbUQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpwWgCfdMUJMRmuBAOqm3zwMZn2OanY W7YAn2AW2RMNTt2gBTZcWpCBOV4W6+Bs =Jyut -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
Hi, I just installed FSO M5. Are the paroli-apps that come with M5 supposed to work ? I always get the following error: root INFO launch Paroli-Contacts parent != None: tichy.gui_paroli.Screen object at 0x2c4190 root ERRORapplication Paroli-Contacts failed : 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj' root ERRORTraceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/paroli-launcher, line 213, in launch yield app(self.screen) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw value = self.generator.throw(type, value, traceback) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/application.py, line 73, in do_run ret = yield super(Application, self).do_run(window, *args, **kargs) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/tasklet.py, line 147, in send value = self.generator.send(value) File /usr/share/paroli/applications/paroli-contacts/paroli-contacts.py, line 47, in run self.main.etk_obj.title_set('Paroli Contacts') AttributeError: 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj' How do I supply that etk_obj-attribute? Cheers, Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
I use EPM to build both deb and opk/ipk from the same configuration file. As far as I can tell, the formats, at least for relatively simple packages, are identical. EPM also builds RPMs, tarballs and other stuff from a single config file. Check out Easy Package Manager and live happily ever after. Michele Renda wrote: On 03/02/2009 22:43, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script to convert from one to the other. Before I spent any time on this, has anyone beaten me to it? Hello, I think you are speaking about a alien for opkg :) I don't know if exist a package for this. The problem is not to convert a opkg in deb, is pretty standard. The problem is to manage all the dependency. The better solution is according me to maintain a list, in the wiki, with a list of software present only as opkg, and one list of software present only as deb, and package all this software.. I think Navit must to be one of the first that need to be packaged, because, with Tango Gps, are the only software to use in efficent way our FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
El día Wednesday, February 04, 2009 a las 05:34:26PM +0100, Thomas Franck escribió: Some weeks ago there was a discussion about an application which updated (crawled) your local installed OSM data... what is the state now of this, is it ready for use (there have been bugs, if I remember correctly); thx I found Yaouh[1] to do a nice job for my TangoGPS.. :) still kinda slow, but at least I had no major problems.. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh I have fetched the source from http://www.logic.at/people/kelvan/python/yaouh0.3_alpha.py because I will run it on my laptop where I have the master place for the OSM maps; it seems that the logic depends on certain http://... values in ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml but I don't have that their; could someone show me the string how it should look in tangogps/%gconf.xml to understand what it is expecting; Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
Hi, We updated a few things and think we are ready to change the sec rev. I also changed the setup.py a bit so it should be easier recognizable what to do ;) In essence,just click the icon on the desktop (there is only the PLauncher) and that should open a launcher window. Would be great if the rev could be set to: 7c5ccfc012e0b9f7003f7f192971a87283979b80 /mirko Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: We bundled it in the image so that the Paroli team can base on MS5. We did not test it though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?
Hi! (Awakening this old thread again) On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:33:25 +0100 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: I have no success on FDOM at the stage: ~#dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply -- dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/audio org.bluez.audio.Manager.CreateDevice string:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method CreateDevice with signature s on interface org.bluez.audio.Manager doesn't exist I saw you fixed this later by installing some package. I'm trying to do the same thing with the latest FSO, milestone 5, but have no luck - I get the same message as you. I've tried looking for bluetooth packages, but I've now installed everything I can find. It looks like a Dbus issue, someone knows how to solve these things? // Simon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?
Yeah, I kept getting this too, had to give up. Not with a Jabra BT3030 either. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Michael Tansella wrote: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up Finally this made my day. I never had to do that before. Assuming MS5 is similar to recent SHR this is because connman is taking over management of the network interfaces, and trying to get an address for usb0 using dhcp. The settings in /etc/network/interfaces will be used if you use: ifdown usb0 ifup usb0 I haven't tried using the connman dbus interface to set a static address yet, but I guess that should work too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Michele Renda wrote: On 03/02/2009 17:18, Al Johnson wrote: It seems there is pressure info available from the hardware, but that it's not been possible to get it consistent over the whole screen. For more on what's actually being done see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters I'd like to ask, if someone installed this program (or another painting program) if has problem when is drawing. I explain: go on upper conner and draw something. Then put the pen up, and make a point in the bottom part of the screen: To me it happen that a line go from up to down, like I never putted up the pen. Someone else is experiencing the same problem? That sounds similar to a problem with numptyphysics which I think was fixed, though I don't know the details. That used to draw lines from the last point of pen up rather than the first pen down. I certainly don't see this with the sketch app in FSO MS 4.1. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Apitz wrote: it seems that the logic depends on certain http://... values in ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml but I don't have that their; could someone show me the string how it should look in tangogps/%gconf.xml to understand what it is expecting; Ahh.. that would be the way osm organizes their maps and where TangoGPS puts them entry name=repos mtime=1229982139 type=list ltype=string li type=string stringvalueOSM|http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png|/media/card/maps/osm|0/stringvalue /li /entry This is the snippet you need.. HTH (beware of linebreaks) Cheers, - -- Thomas - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization. - Jon Bentley - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmKBGkACgkQJyAl4leVARmuRwCeMBsbr4qWDA4/WBNhqQ6sBoE9 8jsAn2lGjng4BTFd5ANbJrCZJ33ABzM2 =gHGc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
Hello Martin On 03/02/2009 21:15, Martin Renold wrote: As a workaround, try to disable pressure sensitivity: Edit - Settings - Mode for Input devices - Disabled If someone wants to debug, the code is in gui/tileddrawwidget.py around line 120. Of course it could also be the driver's fault. I think the problem is not on your soft, but in our driver. We were experiencing the same problem in other programs too. Thank you the same for the hints. It can help us for other situations. Regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On 04/02/2009 21:29, Al Johnson wrote: That sounds similar to a problem with numptyphysics which I think was fixed, though I don't know the details. That used to draw lines from the last point of pen up rather than the first pen down. I certainly don't see this with the sketch app in FSO MS 4.1. Yes, I remember too. I think I have to do a good format / reinstall :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi, Nice app, but not really functional for me. it picks the wrong note for the string, so when playing a G the tuner hears a A. And that seems to happen to other strings as well. That might have to do with the harmonics created by my guitar. is it possible to select manually which string you try to tune? it could filter the input signal at that frequency and perhaps make recognizing the correct tone easier. It sure seems like a nice tool to have on my FR. ( perhaps someone wil create an app that will make me a fresh cup of coffee every now and then, just to make life perfect ;-) Thanks for the nice job so far! Kind regards, Ed kimaidou wrote: Hi ! thanks a lot for this tool, it works great !! One idea of improvement : Play mid file with the corresponding note when clicking on one of the 6 button. This way, we can approach the note faster, and then use the vu meter to adjust it. Kimaidou 2009/2/3 Natanael natana...@gmx.de mailto:natana...@gmx.de Natanael wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for guitartune: * libfftw3-3 * on SHR, where can I find libfftw3-3? I've searched in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ but couldn't find it. Which distribution do you use? Ok, thankyou I've found my answer on http://www.opkg.org/package_115.html opkg install libglade-2.0 gtk+ http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk http://www.opkg.org/packages/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu eMail: natanaela _at_ gmx.de http://gmx.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTE] better kernel?
yeap. this version is ok, but NOT only the wifi has problem.. try the voice notes for example, its impossible to make a voice note (incompatibility ??) chris HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Chris, I am using QTE 4.4.2 with the testing kernel from http://downloads.openmoko.org/testing/daily. It's almost perfect except wifi. You can try it. . -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QTE--better-kernel--tp2258618p2272561.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 03:07:00PM +0100, Petr Vanek wrote: It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? i have flashed u-boot and it starts OK. reflashed qi and have the problem again. interestingly enough i tried to boot fso from nor menu once and then qi was able to boot it ok afterwards. so i am not sure what exactly happens there for the first time... Perhaps this is the same initscripts bug that was introduced with OM2008.9, causing it to fail to boot if you upgraded from OM2008.8 with opkg instead of installing a new image? The bug is that /etc/init.d/udev tries to write to the rootfs before it has been remounted rw. Example patch which I use to get OM2008 going after the upgrade: --- /mnt/flash/etc/init.d/udev~ 2008-11-24 04:20:49.0 +0100 +++ /mnt/flash/etc/init.d/udev 2008-11-25 11:28:14.0 +0100 @@ -53,12 +53,16 @@ fi } +# rootfs might be read only at this point make_extra_nodes() { if [ $(echo /lib/udev/devices/*) != /lib/udev/devices/* ]; then cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /$1/ elif [ -f /lib/udev/devices.tar.gz ]; then -tar -C /lib/udev -zxf /lib/udev/devices.tar.gz -cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /$1/ +#tar -C /lib/udev -zxf /lib/udev/devices.tar.gz +#cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /$1/ +tar -C /$1/ -zxf /lib/udev/devices.tar.gz +mv /$1/devices/* /$1/ +rmdir /$1/devices fi [ -e /etc/udev/links.conf ] || return 0 (You'd get a message something like 'tar: Unable to open devices'.) the trouble is that i don't know how to change the ro flag for qi (i The rootfs should always be mounted ro at first. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:37:56 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: Hi! ok - so if a young person typed: Öt szép szűz it'd be: Ot szep szuz ((btw, the meaning of Öt szép szűz lány őrült írót nyúz is Five virgins tire a crazy writer. It is the hungarian synonym of The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)) Yes, and in that specific case works. (because none of the above words (Ot, szep, szuz) has a meaning in hungarian language, so you can understand that example without accent.) But there are other cases, where it is not that clear: ólt - pound (accusative) ölt - he killed ... olt - to graft sure.. maybe being an english speaker.. this doesn't bother me so much as english is full of such words... 1 word can have 2 or 3 or even more very different meanings. written the same way. only context lets you figure it out. so to me i go so.. what's the problem? :) So when you see olt in the text you cant be sure it is olt, ólt or ölt without analysing the whole sentence. The german example is two-way conversion: ü - ue, ß - ss. You can switch back and for without losing additional information. yup. as i speak german i have been using it as an example :) A simple word based dictionary is limited anyway for the hungarian language, where you can create a word as long as this: elkelkáposztástalaníthatatlanságoskodásaitokért. ugh. so its like german. compound words get created a lot by just stringing multiple words together without a space. that's ok- as long as there arent a massive set of them... :) But there are. Because this language is agglutinative. I explain a bit the difficulty. In german you can create the following word: wood [en] - Holz [de] - fa [hu] house [en] - Haus [de] - ház [hu] wood house [en] - Holzhaus [de] - faház [hu] So you glued together house and wood in one word. (this is your example: stringing together without space) In german you can even create words of one verb plus a modifier, like: to work [en], arbeiten [de], dolgoz [hu] to ply [en], bearbeiten (be+arbeiten) [de], megdolgoz (meg+dolgoz) [hu] It is the same process;) There are many example of this: to link together[en], anschliessen (an+schliessen) [de] - összekapcsol (össze+kapcsol) [hu], to buy up [en], aufkaufen (auf+kaufen) - felvásárol (fel+vásárol) [hu] But in hungarian language, we glue together everything, some example: in house [en], im Haus [de], házban (ház+ban) [hu] car [en], Wagen [de], kocsi [hu] our car [en], unseren Wagen (unser+en Wagen) [de], (kocsi+(u/ü)nk+(a/á/e/é)t) [hu] So the possibilities are nearly infinite. Without analysing the sentence and the word, you cant find the root word with correct accent. oh dear. so you basically take the idea and run with it. nuts! like asian langs... they dont even know what space is! :) (by asian i mean korean, chinese, japanese). And finding the root word requires a spell checker (the best available is hunspell for the hungarian language) Summary: - Losing the accents (in hungarian) most of the time results in contradiction. - Need a spell checker to suggesting the right accented word. (see: http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/) So creating an architecture for spell checker is not a bad idea (for future extensibility). It could be handy for english too. But for other language (ex: hungarian) maybe essential. originally i wanted to actually use aspell to do this... for the vkbd... but its api just didnt cut it. i was wanting to re-use as much as possible, but submitting the totally misspelt word on the kbd just doesnt get you results in a spellchecker. (i hand created some and fed them to aspell to see what it did and it just was useless). they are used to 1 or 2 errors of certain kinds - maybe 3. but when every letter is totally wrong you need an exhaustive search through permutations. :( when kocsinkat is the word you wanted... but you actually typed opdsomlsr ... try get a speller to fix that! interestingly enough at least the english equivalenets: wanted foolhardy and i actually typed gioljsefu... illume can and will correct it to foolhardy... probably as the top or one of the top suggestions... whic is a far cry better than what aspell can dream of doing. it DOEs have a limit that exactly the same number of chars in the desired word need to exist as the matches - but for now, lets assume you hit the kbd the right number of times and its really just screen/finger accuracy fixing. i can't begin to imagine the permutation searches needed for hungarian as either you put all permutations in the dictionary of all words, (for german it's doable - seemingly not for hungarian), or you need to start trying all sorts of permutations of multiple words string together for matches... man thats going to be nastiness. to be honest. i really can't see it being possible to solve this without a lot of work. i don't have the bandwidth to go solving every language
Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?
Helge Hafting wrote: Crane, Matthew wrote: The auto-detect routines that make a human or answering machine determination before switching to an operator seem to fail consistently when answering with my openmoko phone. I'd rather they didn't call at all, but at least when they do you don't have to listen to a sales pitch. A very good thing for sure. Well, this phone is programmable. Put the unwanted numbers on a blocking list, and have the FR auto-reject them without ringing. For something more creative, have the phone pretend to answer. It could listen to the sales pitch. When silence is detected, pick from a pool of short .wav files that say random stuff like interesting, tell me more, could you please repeat that?, just a momentnoises.where were we?, could you take it from the beginning, my aunt wants to hear about that too! Obviously, such a program should update the phone log with how much telemarketer time it has wasted. And a high-score list where you can see who has talked for the longest time before realizing that something was wrong. :-) Such a thing already exists. http://www.custom3dgraphics.com/index.php?pg=swfid=6 -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
2009/2/3 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.comwrote: Tony Berth wrote: did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It crashes! Yes, I use SHR unstable. For a first install, I think there is no problem. If a previous release of Neon was already installed, it is perhaps neccessary to delete a file. Can you look if the file /usr/bin/neon.pyo exists. If yes, remove it. If it's not the case, can you send me the output error? -- Valéry the 'neon.pyo' file doesn't exist at all and 'yes' I had the previous version installled before upgrading! When I click on the icon I just get the generic error screen 'Application Execution Error' with no further info I don't know if that was any help to you? Thanks Tony I think it's a problem with python versions. : ln -s /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/neon/ /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon This worked for me to launch neon, but it can't open any image. This is the output: Traceback (most recent call last): File ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi, line 29, in ecore.c_ecore.timer_cb (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:1075) File ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi, line 97, in ecore.c_ecore.Timer._exec (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:1656) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py, line 148, in open_file self.gui.viewer.open(file_path) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py, line 650, in open self.__load_image(path) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py, line 644, in __load_image self.properties.populate(path) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py, line 973, in populate value = format % (self.gui.viewer.img.real_w, self.gui.viewer.img.real_h) TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not NoneType ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Before, mplayer took 40%-50% of cpu according to top. Now, pythm-bin uses 48%-49% instead. This when playing stereo .ogg Still sounds much too high. Even my home router (266MHz MIPS) decodes .ogg with less than 30% of CPU. Usind `mpd', my FR shows significantly less than 20% CPU decoding .ogg files (tho admittedly, these are 96Kb/s, so maybe that helps). I haven't tried again recently (among other things because the headphone output is so lousy), but there's no reason for it to be higher than 20%, unless maybe there's some resampling going on, or some floating-point software-mixer somewhere. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community