Re: opkg-deb

2009-02-11 Thread kimaidou
Thanks for your answer . I will try it !

2009/2/11 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk

 On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:48:42AM +0100, kimaidou wrote:
  Hi all
  I think this idea is great. I am using SHR from the start, and now I
  installed Hackable 1 on my SDcard (I need a PIM solution). So I miss the
  goodies in www.opkg.org.

   I've installed both usbmode and linball[1] on Debian from the .ipk
 package.
 You need to pass --force-architecture and perhaps --force-depends to dpkg.
 It will probably work fine for many packages.

 [1] Hangs on exit without -n to turn off sound (which doesn't work anyway).

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-11 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net wrote:

 Huh, thanks for your effort! This sounds nice and would totally fit my
 battery need for one day i guess. expecting some improvements later things
 would be even better, but apparently it already is well enough for my needs
 :)

 One more question: i guess you put the phone in suspend mode during the
 inactive time?
 furthermore i read some issues on audio quality lately. is the quality of
 audio playback acceptable with headset?

 Thanks for your help!



Yes, my phone is on suspend when I don't use it.

If I use my FR only for making calls (I only make a few calls every
day), playing some games and maybe a little GPRS usage then the
battery lasts about 50 hours.

I can't say about the audio quality, I usually listen to punk rock
music, so the audio quality is not important for me :D

But there's one problem with the headset. I bought a 2.5-3.5 adapter
for my headphones. And if I push it fully in then the music comes only
from the right headphone. I have to pull it out a little for the music
to come from both phones.

If you want to use Freerunner with OM2008.12 as a usable phone and
music player and internet device and gps device then there's so many
things you have to install and configure before it's usable. It took
me a lot of time to get everything installed and configured (and
there's still some things to do). But now there's the Kustomizer (
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ), maybe this can make life a
little easier.

I use my Freerunner currently as my everyday phone. But I always have
my old Nokia with me. Just in case.

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-11 Thread Arigead
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Guillaume Chereau wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 14:39 +, Arigead wrote:
 cd ../paroli-scripts/
 DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher


 results in the following:

 [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()):
 Ecore_X initialization failed!

 [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()):
 Etk can not initialize the requested engine!

 Segmentation fault
 I don't know what the problem is. It is the error you get when you don't
 set DISPLAY=:0 (by the way very annoying to have a seg fault in that
 case) but since you took care of setting DISPLAY then I don't know.
 
 Can you run this simple test : 
 
  DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk'
 
 And see if you get the same error.
 
 /Guillaume

r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk'
[Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()):
Ecore_X initialization failed!

[Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()):
Etk can not initialize the requested engine!

Segmentation fault
r...@om-gta02:~#


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Neo FreeRunner on FLOSS Manuals

2009-02-11 Thread William Lai
We've started migrating content from the Om wiki to our, soon to be, 
official FreeRunner manual on FLOSS Manuals.  Yeah!

We just got our account set up so its still a work in progress, but we 
hope to get some speed over the next week:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/NeoFreeRunner/WebHome

Basis for the manual will be derived from two already functional 
sections in the wiki:

* Getting Started With Your Neo FreeRunner
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner

* Openmoko Developer Guide
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide

Right now we're only focused on the starter guide, developer guide will 
come later.  We invite all of you to join us, or simply drop by and give 
tips or suggestions.  More updates to come later..


Special thanks goes out to Adam Hyde for his blessing.
If you don't already know about his site and what they're about:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/

go check it out.
Some serious work going on there ;)



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Re: multitouch possible?

2009-02-11 Thread RzR www.rzr.online.fr
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 I just opened a drawing program and played with it using two fingers. The
 2009/1/27 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl

 kris Occhipinti wrote:
  I agree that it is a hardware limitation.

Hi this seems to become a legal limitation as well :

http://www.newlc.com/en/multitouch-feature-any-screen#comment-50240

If google fear apple's lawyers what about poormen like us ?
... Oh well, When you have nothing to loose you have everything to win

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Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-11 Thread Christopher Hall
Hello Everyone,
On 2009 February 11 Wednesday 16:34:54 Marek Lindner wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 February 2009 19:00:19 Andy Green wrote:
  Having rootfs mount ro initially is a safety feature, it'd be sad if we
  have to take it out because the rootfs can't manage doing a mount
  /dev/root / -oremount,rw in the initscripts.

 Not sure whether somebody was able to properly fix it or not. We (Chris and
 me) just ran into this issue and created a fix for the mount script. The
 /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh file in line 24 is the reason for the problem. It
 complains about a wrong file descriptor here: exec 90 /etc/fstab I
 removed the 2 exec lines (line 24 and line 85) and added a   /etc/fstab
 at the end of line 84.

 Hope it helps someone,
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This change works for me with Qi with the append-GTA02 file removed.

Originally append-GTA02 contained 3 chars 'rwspace'
(space was needed because Qi appends more options after the append file)

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Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-11 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Marek Lindner ma...@openmoko.com wrote:

 Hope it helps someone,

Awesome, it works. Thanks a _lot_! :)

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-11 Thread Beni

Hello, first of all, thanks for that great work!

The setup works for me, but i still have an issue; i think it is gstreamer
related, but i'm not sure.
Most mp3s work but with some i got no playback. This is also the case for
the same mp3s played with openmoko-mediaplayer2 (thats why i think it is a
gstreamer issue).

If i call pythm from terminal and play such an mp3, the following is
printed:

-snip-
r...@benis-gta02v6:/media/card# pythm
r...@benis-gta02v6:/media/card# No Locale found, falling back! Error
was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm'
new conf
using gstreamer backend
Could not load backend: mplayer: No module named ID3
** Message: don't know how to handle application/x-apetag
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gstreamer/gstreamerbackend.py, line
290, in on_player_message
err, debug = message.parse_error()
NameError: global name 'message' is not defined
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gstreamer/gstreamerbackend.py, line
290, in on_player_message
err, debug = message.parse_error()
NameError: global name 'message' is not defined
** Message: don't know how to handle application/x-apetag
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gstreamer/gstreamerbackend.py, line
290, in on_player_message
err, debug = message.parse_error()
NameError: global name 'message' is not defined
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gstreamer/gstreamerbackend.py, line
290, in on_player_message
err, debug = message.parse_error()
NameError: global name 'message' is not defined

-snap-

I hope, someone could say some things about that.

Thanks,
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-11 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I tried to install pythm from opkg.org with no success on om2008.12:

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install mutagen
http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Terminated
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install
http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Terminated
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm mutagen

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm mutagen
^[[CInstalling mutagen (svn-4350) to root...
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/mutagen_svn-4350_armv4t.ipk
Configuring mutagen
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm
An error ocurred, return value: 2.
r...@om-gta02:~# wget http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Connecting to www.opkg.org (194.126.200.25:80)
pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv 100%
||
 1448  --:--:-- ETA
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
Terminated
r...@om-gta02:~#

Any ideas what might be wrong? I was able to install all the
dependencies manually ok.


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Re: liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-11 Thread Helge Hafting
Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
 http://liqbase.net/
 
 All necessary libraries are in repositories or OpenEmbedded.
 I got it compiled and running on Freerunner, but screen goes blank.
 
 It uses the XV YUV overlay. Is this something that Freerunner can't handle?
 
 I tested:
 mplayer -vo help
 Does not show xv. Is this sign that Freerunner do not have it, or only
 that my mplayer is compiled without it?

Could be either.

Search the mailing list archives. There was a post last year about
an mplayer compiled specifically for the freerunner, to take
advantage of what little video acceleration the chip has.
Apparently, it was better than software-only, but still 320x240
if you want a good framerate.

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Re: multitouch possible?

2009-02-11 Thread Helge Hafting
RzR www.rzr.online.fr wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 I just opened a drawing program and played with it using two fingers. The
 2009/1/27 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl
 kris Occhipinti wrote:
 I agree that it is a hardware limitation.
 
 Hi this seems to become a legal limitation as well :
 
 http://www.newlc.com/en/multitouch-feature-any-screen#comment-50240
 
 If google fear apple's lawyers what about poormen like us ?
 ... Oh well, When you have nothing to loose you have everything to win
 
Just don't do it exactly the same way as apple did, then. In particular, 
don't read their patent for inspiration.

One very simple way of getting limited multitouch is to
have several adjacent touchscreens instead of one big touchscreen.

2 independent touch devices is enough for games played with
left thumb and right thumb. You can then press both flippers at once,
and similiar. Duke have more than 2 buttons, but you still only have two 
for  thumbs so no problem there. Of course, multitouch isn't really 
needed for gaming. Add a 4way controller and a couple of buttons on each 
side, and gamers should be fine.

4 independent touch devices is enough if all you want is to stretch
windows in all directions at once.

More if you want to play chords on a virtual piano - one touchscreen for 
each visible key.

Calibrating the stylus to track nicely across the seams
could be interesting though!

Helge Hafting

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Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-11 Thread Gothnet

Bump.

I'll be there between 6 and 6.30.

And if the batteries on my eee hold out I'll be happy to shove a recent
android build onto any unattended FRs :)




gnublade wrote:
 
 Just pinging the list to say that we're on for the 11th (this
 Wednesday) at the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street from 7.30.
 
 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/Old_Bank_of_England/Fleet_Street
 
 Invite any OM owners, potential owners and interested parties,
 hopefully we can get a good mix of distributions and share our tips,
 tricks and war stories.  If you own an OpenMoko it goes without saying
 bring it with, even if it's a brick you never know somebody might be
 able to breath some life into it.
 
 Hope to see you there.
 
 

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-11 Thread Helge Hafting
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:

 Every now and then I get wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404
 Not Found but mostly it looks like running nice.
Yaouh does not seem to do any error checking. If curl fails somehow, 
then it blindly notices that the md5sum of the file doesn't match the 
blank string (or error message) from curl, and downloads the tile.
(Start yaouh without a network, and it will claim to update every file, 
with curl just timing out on every check...)

If wget fails, you just don't get that tile updated. If anything else 
goes wrong, the app crashes. Unfortunately, lots of other things go 
wrong. The gtk libraries comes up with illegal instructions, unaligned 
accesses and segmentation faults now and then.

 I liked your 10x speedup hack but I'm still running the original
 version (0.4 I think).

The speedup trick works, but I'd be the first to admit it isn't 
user-friendly. The worst part of it is that yaouh crashes now and then 
due to gtk problems, and this gets 10x worse with 10 processes. Still - 
restarting various processes 7-8 times gets me the tileset quicker than 
a single standard yaouh run. And the standard yaouh crashes sometimes 
too of course.

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out - 10x speedup hack

2009-02-11 Thread Helge Hafting
Robin Paulson wrote:

 this is a fine idea. it's somewhat clumsy invoking 10 scripts manually
 - i'm sure it could be coded to do this automatically, but it's a
 decent first step.

It is clumsy indeed. Just a test to see if parallel curl would help - or 
not. Turns out that it helped. :-)

Running the curl and the md5sum in parallel would help too, and it'd be 
sort of perfect: md5sum would then use the cpu while curl waits for the 
network to respond. currently, curl waits for an answer, and then md5sum 
runs after that. md5sum is quicker than curl, so the md5sum time could 
be hidden completely.  One md5sum isn't much time, but saving the time 
for 50.000 invocations will probably amount to something.

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Re: Neo FreeRunner on FLOSS Manuals

2009-02-11 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Once validated, count on me to spanish translation

2009/2/11 William Lai w...@openmoko.com:
 We've started migrating content from the Om wiki to our, soon to be,
 official FreeRunner manual on FLOSS Manuals.  Yeah!

 We just got our account set up so its still a work in progress, but we
 hope to get some speed over the next week:

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/NeoFreeRunner/WebHome

 Basis for the manual will be derived from two already functional
 sections in the wiki:

 * Getting Started With Your Neo FreeRunner
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner

 * Openmoko Developer Guide
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide

 Right now we're only focused on the starter guide, developer guide will
 come later.  We invite all of you to join us, or simply drop by and give
 tips or suggestions.  More updates to come later..


 Special thanks goes out to Adam Hyde for his blessing.
 If you don't already know about his site and what they're about:

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/

 go check it out.
 Some serious work going on there ;)



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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-11 Thread Arigead
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Guillaume Chereau wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 08:12 +, Arigead wrote:
 r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk'
 [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()):
 Ecore_X initialization failed!

 [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()):
 Etk can not initialize the requested engine!

 Segmentation fault
 r...@om-gta02:~#
 
 OK then at least the error doesn't come from paroli.
 
 I don't get the error on my gta02, using FSO ms5 (illume)
 My version of python-etk (opkg info python-etk) is 0.1.1+svnr38544-ml1
 and my version of libetk1 is 2:0.1.0.042+svnr38544-r4, what are
 yours ?
 
 Also, which flavor of FSO ms5 are you using ? fso-console-image,
 fso-illume-image, or fso-image ? I am using illume version and haven't
 tried the other ones.
 
 Ah, and just to make sure, can you also try using export DISPLAY=:0
 instead of DISPLAY=:0 ?
 
 -gui

what can I say, leaving out naughty words? export makes a world of
difference. Thanks a million for your help. Now I can start using Paroli.

John
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Re: liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-11 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
 http://liqbase.net/
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/liqbase/

There are opk-packed liqbase. It can be installed. It can be runned.
But it doesn't work. (over ssh you got logs)

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-11 Thread Arigead
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Ok now I've got Paroli up and running and removed the test stuff from
the config file. I'll cut and paste the output to the terminal windown.
I've basically selected Tele, the only app in the list and get the
following output. I'll have a look at it later on. One thing is that
later on the coverage display on the top does change to show my coverage
but it's down as No Service. Selecting Tele after the first time
does nothing and produces no more output. Paroli seems to be a bit away
from daily use in my case :-(

John

paroli-launcher.py 70 Launcher INFO adding - Tele to launcher
paroli-launcher.py 108 Launcher INFO False
paroli-launcher 284 root INFO starting mainloop
gsm.py 181 GSM  INFO Check antenna power
gsm.py 183 GSM  INFO antenna power is 0
gsm.py 186 GSM  INFO turn on antenna power
gsm.py 173 GSM  INFO register on the network
gsm.py 177 GSM  ERRORError :
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30
seconds
tasklet.py 121 tasklet  ERRORGot error from unconnected tasklet :
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30
seconds
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR  File
../paroli-core/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERRORvalue = self.generator.throw(type,
value, traceback)
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR  File paroli-launcher, line 123, in run
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERRORyield gsm_service.init()
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR  File
../paroli-core/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERRORvalue = self.generator.throw(type,
value, traceback)
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR  File
../paroli-services/phone/gsm.py, line 174, in init
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERRORyield
WaitDBus(self.gsm_network.Register)
tasklet.py 125 tasklet  ERROR
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[SHR - Latest unstable] navit

2009-02-11 Thread Tony Berth
Dear List

when trying to install navit (= opkg install navit) I get following error:

Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit:
 *  gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *

Please take into account that following source:

http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/Packages

is already in the opkg conf file icluded!

Thanks

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-11 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi,

I am almost certain that that is not a paroli error.

See more comments below:

Arigead wrote:
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 Ok now I've got Paroli up and running and removed the test stuff from
 the config file. I'll cut and paste the output to the terminal windown.
 I've basically selected Tele, the only app in the list and get the
 following output. I'll have a look at it later on. One thing is that
 later on the coverage display on the top does change to show my coverage
 but it's down as No Service. Selecting Tele after the first time
 does nothing and produces no more output. Paroli seems to be a bit away
 from daily use in my case :-(
 
 John
 
 paroli-launcher.py 70 Launcher INFO adding - Tele to launcher
 paroli-launcher.py 108 Launcher INFO False
 paroli-launcher 284 root INFO starting mainloop
 gsm.py 181 GSM  INFO Check antenna power
 gsm.py 183 GSM  INFO antenna power is 0
 gsm.py 186 GSM  INFO turn on antenna power
 gsm.py 173 GSM  INFO register on the network

OK here we go ;)

 gsm.py 177 GSM  ERRORError :
 org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30
 seconds
 tasklet.py 121 tasklet  ERRORGot error from unconnected tasklet :
 org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30
 seconds

This means paroli tried to connect to the framework but did not get an 
answer to its register request.

Together with what you mentioned above :
One thing is that later on the coverage display on the top does change 
to show my coverage but it's down as No Service.

It seems as if the framework simply cannot conenct to the network. Could 
you paste the framework.log as well?

Or even better open a ticket on

http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/

And paste both logs there.

/mirko

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Re: Buy GTA01

2009-02-11 Thread Tilman Baumann
I have one.
And I would give it away if it brings me any further to a Freerunner 
which I would not buy right now.

Angus Ainslie wrote:
 Does anyone have a working gta01 they'd like to sell ?
 
 Please message me of list if you do.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Buy GTA01

2009-02-11 Thread arne anka
to whom do you prefer to sell?
angus or debian/fso, ie luca?

price?

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Re: Buy GTA01

2009-02-11 Thread Tilman Baumann
arne anka wrote:
 to whom do you prefer to sell?
 angus or debian/fso, ie luca?

Oh, is this really a contest? Honestly I don't care much.
Angus was first on the list...

 price?

Ideally the same as a new Freerunner. *g*
Who makes the best offer?
I would be ready to invest something to upgrade to a Frerunner...

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Re: Buy GTA01

2009-02-11 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote:
 arne anka wrote:
 to whom do you prefer to sell?
 angus or debian/fso, ie luca?
 
 Oh, is this really a contest? Honestly I don't care much.

If anyone is interested please contact me off the list.

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Re: flashing Neo Freerunner problems

2009-02-11 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
2009/2/9 C R McClenaghan ch...@mcclenaghan.com:
 I had set my Neo aside for a few weeks and on returning to it I'm
 unable to flash a new kernel or root file system.

 When I run dfu-util -l while at the NOR menu there are no listed usb
 devices. When I boot the NEO into FSO, I am able to connect via USB
 networking.

   Can you tell the list what is happening in host's dmesg when you
plug FR in while it's in NOR menu? I also had similar problems and
ended up with the fact that there's a difference between plug the
PC-FR cable, then power FR up to NOR menu and power FR up to NOR
menu, then plug the PC-FR cable. After this change I was able to
see FR in dfu-util device listing.

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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] navit

2009-02-11 Thread Pander
Tony Berth wrote:
 Dear List
 
 when trying to install navit (= opkg install navit) I get following error:
 
 Collected errors:
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit:
  *  gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *
 
 Please take into account that following source:
 
 http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/Packages
 
 is already in the opkg conf file icluded!

More packages experience this problem while it is not a problem for the
Om2008.x releases. gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) should be included ion
the SHR repos.

 
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[android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?

2009-02-11 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I'm testing the lastest koolu image of android and is quite impresive,
but in order to make some screen captures I have to run two apps at
time Superuser and Screenshot... but in the keyboard Home button don't
seems to work, and Back button close the application...
or how to launch an apk installed app from the adb shell might be usefull too

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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] navit

2009-02-11 Thread Fernando Martins
Tony Berth wrote:
 Dear List

 when trying to install navit (= opkg install navit) I get following error:

 Collected errors:
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit:
  *  gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *

 Please take into account that following source:

 http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/Packages

 is already in the opkg conf file icluded!

Check this thread:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040527.html

including the part where I overlooked that ERROR had become WARNING :-)

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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] navit (SOLVED)

2009-02-11 Thread Tony Berth
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nlwrote:

 Tony Berth wrote:
  Dear List
 
  when trying to install navit (= opkg install navit) I get following
 error:
 
  Collected errors:
   * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit:
   *  gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *
 
  Please take into account that following source:
 
  http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/Packages
 
  is already in the opkg conf file icluded!
 
 Check this thread:

 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040527.html

 including the part where I overlooked that ERROR had become WARNING :-)

 Fernando


Yep! That did the trick.

Thanks

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Re: multitouch possible?

2009-02-11 Thread Dylan McCall
Apple's multitouch system, on the software end, is based on heavy use
of gestures. Gestures are stupid and limiting, so don't do them.
Instead, build on simple logical rules that expand organically to
multiple fingers. For example, a basic physics simulation can be used
for dragging objects; one finger just pushes it from any corner, but
the addition of a second finger (which holds it rigid at a point)
allows that object to be stretched or rotated. Gestures aren't
natural; they are based on approximations, feel detached, and always
will be the boring way of doing things ;)

Bye,
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Re: [android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?

2009-02-11 Thread Radek Polak
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 I'm testing the lastest koolu image of android and is quite impresive,
 but in order to make some screen captures I have to run two apps at
 time Superuser and Screenshot... but in the keyboard Home button don't
 seems to work, and Back button close the application...
 or how to launch an apk installed app from the adb shell might be usefull too
   

Hi David,
the BACK button should not close the application. At least
it does not close for me. Home key will probably start
working in next release so you have to wait for it.

Application can be started from adb shell via command
am start. You have to specify parameters like activity name
and package. Not sure what's the exact syntax. Try google :)

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-11 Thread Dylan Reilly
I will take a look at both of these problems; they're probably both my
fault. However, I am in the middle of playing with integrating with
the new fso framework, so it may take a day.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 I tried to install pythm from opkg.org with no success on om2008.12:

 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install mutagen
 http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Terminated
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install
 http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Terminated
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm mutagen

 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm mutagen
 ^[[CInstalling mutagen (svn-4350) to root...
 Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/mutagen_svn-4350_armv4t.ipk
 Configuring mutagen
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm
 An error ocurred, return value: 2.
 r...@om-gta02:~# wget http://www.opkg.org/packages/pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Connecting to www.opkg.org (194.126.200.25:80)
 pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv 100%
 ||
  1448  --:--:-- ETA
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install pythm_0.5.2-dmr_armv4t.ipk
 Terminated
 r...@om-gta02:~#

 Any ideas what might be wrong? I was able to install all the
 dependencies manually ok.


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Re: New leather case for Neo FreeRunner

2009-02-11 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
 I finally achive to  low the shipping cost for few units, now a unit
 of the leather case to all countries of UE are 8,55 Euros

This is good news. Will the checkout page reflect the new price (it
currently does not, if I'm not mistaking)?

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Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello geeks,
  there is a new Linball (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linball)
version with few improvements:

- better sound and music performance
- proper opkg dependeces
- flippers can be used at the same time (multitouch as Bastian and Brock
  suggested :
  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040702.html and
  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040703.html)
- rotated screen

How to install:
opkg install http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko_0.2_armv4t.opk
 

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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
Please don't use the Reply button to create a new thread. Good mail client get 
fucked with that.

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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread gnublade
Perfect timing, installed on my FR to demo to peeps at the London meet tonight.

Cheers

2009/2/11 Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.com:
 Hello geeks,
  there is a new Linball (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linball)
 version with few improvements:

 - better sound and music performance
 - proper opkg dependeces
 - flippers can be used at the same time (multitouch as Bastian and Brock
  suggested :
  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040702.html and
  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-January/040703.html)
 - rotated screen

 How to install:
 opkg install http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko_0.2_armv4t.opk


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Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-11 Thread john
I should be there by about 8pm. I will look for an array of geeks :)

2009/2/11 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net:

 Bump.

 I'll be there between 6 and 6.30.

 And if the batteries on my eee hold out I'll be happy to shove a recent
 android build onto any unattended FRs :)




 gnublade wrote:

 Just pinging the list to say that we're on for the 11th (this
 Wednesday) at the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street from 7.30.

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/Old_Bank_of_England/Fleet_Street

 Invite any OM owners, potential owners and interested parties,
 hopefully we can get a good mix of distributions and share our tips,
 tricks and war stories.  If you own an OpenMoko it goes without saying
 bring it with, even if it's a brick you never know somebody might be
 able to breath some life into it.

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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread The Digital Pioneer
A, excellent! Much better performance, and dual-flipper support is
wonderful. :)
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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
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 you have ability to break 'hi-jacked' thread into a separate one
 by using shortcut '#' which corresponds to function 'break-thread' iirc

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Re: flashing Neo Freerunner problems

2009-02-11 Thread C R McClenaghan
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Evgeniy Karyakin wrote:

 2009/2/9 C R McClenaghan ch...@mcclenaghan.com:
 I had set my Neo aside for a few weeks and on returning to it I'm
 unable to flash a new kernel or root file system.

 When I run dfu-util -l while at the NOR menu there are no listed  
 usb
 devices. When I boot the NEO into FSO, I am able to connect via USB
 networking.

   Can you tell the list what is happening in host's dmesg when you
 plug FR in while it's in NOR menu? I also had similar problems and
 ended up with the fact that there's a difference between plug the
 PC-FR cable, then power FR up to NOR menu and power FR up to NOR
 menu, then plug the PC-FR cable. After this change I was able to
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Yes, here's the most complete set of messages from dmesg. I have not  
noticed any difference in the order which the steps are taken to turn  
on the device and boot to NOR and to plug in the cable.

[   87.928631] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and  
address 3
[   88.540254] usb 1-1: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/ 
start: -71
[   88.540437] usb 1-1: chopping to 0 config(s)
[   88.695904] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71
[   88.698093] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71
[   88.700419] usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71
[   88.734000] usb 1-1: no configuration chosen from 0 choices
[   88.736092] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[   89.084376] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and  
address 4
[   89.692859] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type =  
0x2, length = 0
[   89.692909] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22
[   89.912237] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and  
address 5
[   90.420975] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type =  
0x2, length = 0
[   90.421000] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22
[   90.641355] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and  
address 6
[   90.676829] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type =  
0x2, length = 0
[   90.676850] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22
[   90.900242] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and  
address 7
[   90.939088] usb 1-1: invalid descriptor for config index 1: type =  
0x2, length = 0
[   90.939111] usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22
[   90.940610] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1

I wonder if I've got the right cable, but by process of elimination it  
seems to be the one. The other cable I have is for a blackberry, but  
I get the same result. Note - this seems to be a dfu-util problem, I  
am able to connect with neocon.

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Re: New leather case for Neo FreeRunner

2009-02-11 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
No, you were not mistaking, but now is fixed, thanks Olivier for the advice.

2009/2/11 Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
 da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
 I finally achive to  low the shipping cost for few units, now a unit
 of the leather case to all countries of UE are 8,55 Euros

 This is good news. Will the checkout page reflect the new price (it
 currently does not, if I'm not mistaking)?

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Re: Openmoko Autobuilder

2009-02-11 Thread HouYu Li
Great News!!! Thank you very much. I am trying to build openmoko base image
using MokoMakefile these days but there is always a failure of the md5sum of
package m4. I will check out the problem.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:

 The Openmoko autobuilder is back online. It is generating
 images for gta01 and gta02 devices.

 THE GTA01 IMAGES HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED ON A DEVICE YET. If you're
 brave and test these please post your results.

 The build stats can be followed here

 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/openmoko/

 It is currently generating 2 sets of images and feeds.

 = unstable
This is based on the FSO milestone 5 branch at git.openembedded.org
This should be identical to FSO milestone 5 so if
you've tried that there is nothing new here.
Any critical bug fixes checked into FSO milestone
5 will show up in these images and feeds.

http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/unstable/
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/

 = experimental
These images and feeds are primarily for FSO, paroli and
Openmoko developers. The images will not build sometimes.
Even if they do build they won't work as you expect them
to. DON'T use experimental if you expect to use your
Openmoko device as a daily phone, gps or whatever.
This is based on the FSO milestone 5 branch at git.openembedded.org
Autorev is turned on for these images so any updates to
the FSO milestone 5 branch will get generated.

http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/experimental/
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/

 There are some packages that are failing consistently. I'm going
 to try and debug these and send some fixes upstream.

 There are some legacy testing directories that contain Om2008.x
 images and feeds. These will be moved or removed soon.

 For those interested in improving or commenting on the build
 scripts used to generate the unstable and experimental images
 they can be found here:

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/build/

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Re: Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet

2009-02-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

the Karlsruhe Openmoko user meet has successfully attracted 12
interested users and we had some inspiring discussion. More about it on
http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/318-Openmoko-User-Meeting-in-Karlsruhe.html
and pictures on
https://entropia.de/wiki/OpenMoko_User_Meet

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Request to provide input on Sahana mobile application on Openmoko

2009-02-11 Thread Ajay Kumar
Hi All,
I am trying to collect data to include in my report as a part of
research and preliminary analysis for my project.
So I request you all to kindly take out time to fill up the survey
that I have created here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pWeVl6IM9h6UKAGOx231pFA

I highly urge you to complete the survey in full and help me with the
research.

Any inputs and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks  Regards,

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Re: New design (was Re: Samsung M7600)

2009-02-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8


 You mean something like this but without keyboard

 http://androidmesh.com/devices/exceda-android-handheld-smartphone-comming-on-march-221
 Yup, it would be too big and too ugly.



too ugly and you'll need 2 hands to hold it on your ear, i think if gta03 or
gta04 would be something like the g1 that would be nice
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Running Kustomizer (was Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Margo Koppelmann))

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 From: Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com
 Date: February 11, 2009 12:09:35 AM PST
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[...]


 If you want to use Freerunner with OM2008.12 as a usable phone and
 music player and internet device and gps device then there's so many
 things you have to install and configure before it's usable. It took
 me a lot of time to get everything installed and configured (and
 there's still some things to do). But now there's the Kustomizer (
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ), maybe this can make life a
 little easier.

I ran Kustomizer last night following the Wiki docs and it took a  
while, but it worked
and I was happy to see an updater/package installer run to completion  
w/ out crashing for once.

Sorry to be such a cynic, I know people work hard to make things  
nicer for us in the OpenMoko
community. I guess I've been burned a lot on packaging dependancies  
and prereqs on Linux  in general
over the years so my first thought when trying something like that is  
to wonder how something is going to break.
Fortunately, I was not disappointed.

I've had my FR for about 2 weeks now and I really think it does take  
some time of modding and hacking on it
to get it to not just be usable, but usable how you want.  That,  
IMHO, is why you're buying an FR rather than what the carrier shops  
have for sale.
My current setup on my FR is with a Kustomized Om 2008-12 flashed  
into NVRAM and  Qtopia on microSD.

Steve

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Re:[android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?

2009-02-11 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay


 From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com
 Date: February 11, 2009 5:58:50 AM PST
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 I'm testing the lastest koolu image of android and is quite impresive,
 but in order to make some screen captures I have to run two apps at
 time Superuser and Screenshot... but in the keyboard Home button don't
 seems to work, and Back button close the application...
 or how to launch an apk installed app from the adb shell might be  
 usefull too

Hi David,
What bootloader are you using ? Are you using Qi ?
I tried the Koolu beta 3 last night and couldn't get it to boot.
It sat there for about 10 minutes at a blank screen before I gave up  
and went back to OM2008-12.
It was getting late, I needed a functional FR and I figured I would  
play with it more this weekend.

---Steve

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Re: [android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?

2009-02-11 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Functional is not the word for the beta3 but is pretty promising, I
hope one day OM can have a web browser as smoth as android has
No I don't have Qi, is the uboot from the 0m2008.12 release directory.
do yo have the sdcard with two first partitions with vfat/ext3? is
mandatory to make Android boot.

2009/2/12 Steve  'dillo Okay armad...@gothpunk.com:


 From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com
 Date: February 11, 2009 5:58:50 AM PST
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 Subject: [android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?
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 I'm testing the lastest koolu image of android and is quite impresive,
 but in order to make some screen captures I have to run two apps at
 time Superuser and Screenshot... but in the keyboard Home button don't
 seems to work, and Back button close the application...
 or how to launch an apk installed app from the adb shell might be
 usefull too

 Hi David,
 What bootloader are you using ? Are you using Qi ?
 I tried the Koolu beta 3 last night and couldn't get it to boot.
 It sat there for about 10 minutes at a blank screen before I gave up
 and went back to OM2008-12.
 It was getting late, I needed a functional FR and I figured I would
 play with it more this weekend.

 ---Steve

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Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino
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fix broken links

2009-02-11 Thread Brenda Wang
Dear all:
The Openmoko distribution maintainer start to do some change on
downloads server( Downloads.openmoko.org) .
This change cause the broken links of many Wiki pages.
The old link of released images was located at :
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Omxxx

Now should be link to here :
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/

I will use web link search function to fix this problem.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch

But I can only fix English and Chinese version. So , if you also find
some broken link on wiki page that are not fixed , feel free to correct
it .
That will be help.


Best Regards.
Brenda


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