[SHR] Phonelog and hidden caller ids

2009-03-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Hi folks, phonelog crashes as soon as someone calls me from a phone with hidden caller id. There is a simple problem in /usr/bin/phonelog : the output of the error message fails because of a problem of python string and int concatenation. It seems easy to fix, by replacing : print foo +

Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Klaus Kurzmann wrote: in addition to the ophonekitd bugs there was also a bug in frameworkd regarding the release of the display resource. All that should be fixed now and hit you with opkg update upgrade I'll install the new testing image when it shows up at the website then. I also have a

[Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I need in my FR a Terminal which can handle UTF-8 output; r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 export DISPLAY r...@om-gta02:~# LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 export LANG r...@om-gta02:~# openmoko-terminal2 (openmoko-terminal2:1887): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C'

Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Dylan Reilly wrote: I am not seeing this problem. Can you look through /etc/pythm.log and see if there is anything interesting in there, or send it to me? $ pythm No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm' new conf using gstreamer backend

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Olof Sjobergh
Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run locale -a Unfortunately, I don't remember the package names for locales. But with an UTF-8

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM +0100, Olof Sjobergh escribió: Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run

Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: i really suggest you have a better look at the code. it uses timepoints. Good advice. Critic based on assumptions isn't good enough. Still, the problem remain. The user interface is a bit on the slow side. And it doesn't have to - simplified themes are

Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
William Kenworthy wrote: I can see the reasons for this ($'s in the door), but theres no reason the gta04 wont be more like what we want. Even if its still got a 640x480 screen, I wont be buying a gta03 unless it BOTH is an advance on the FR (which means it stays with a resistive screen),

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
c_c wrote: Hi, The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that allowed overloading of this button based on the

Re: howto: making ipk/opk

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: A) There are many broken packages on opkg.org. They can be downloaded and installed and they work. But adding opkg.org repository and installing packages from repository cause Segmentation Faults and Not found errors (opkg error -2). That is an opkg bug, because opkg

Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Pander wrote: Hi all, I have started a feature overview for out of the box SHR unstable distribution. This will show the current status of the functionality you get after installing SHR and using only the high level GUI to use and manage it.

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Daniel.Li
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 11:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM +0100, Olof Sjobergh escribió: Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Ed Kapitein
perhpas you can do: which locale and opkg search `which locale` That will list the packages that contains locale Kind regards, @ On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 19:39 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 11:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM

Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution

2009-03-02 Thread Pander
Helge Hafting wrote: Pander wrote: Hi all, I have started a feature overview for out of the box SHR unstable distribution. This will show the current status of the functionality you get after installing SHR and using only the high level GUI to use and manage it.

Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Convert your music to -q4 ogg, mono, and use Tremor. Well, some of us like -q6 and stereo. :-) mplayer may eat a lot of cpu, but skipping is easily dealt with by running mplayer at nice -15, which is higher priority than enlightenment (which runs at nice -10). The

Openmoko FreeRunner Internal details

2009-03-02 Thread sandilya b
Hi All, I am trying to fetch the details of my openmoko freerunner phone. I want to write a python or java program and fetch the values and display them on a webpage which I am hosting on my phone itself. I want details like my IMEI number, phone number, present Location from gps etc. Can

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 07:51:26PM +0800, Daniel.Li escribió: ... This means you only have the C and POSIX locales, i.e. no UTF-8 locales. Try to install for example locale-base-en-us or some other language and see if that makes a difference. I've installed now in

Re: Openmoko FreeRunner Internal details

2009-03-02 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
assuming you use FSO or SHR you can use dbus to query the framework for many of the phone details. web.py offers an excellent light python based web-server and also a web framework - Gunnar sandilya b wrote: Hi All, I am trying to fetch the details of my openmoko freerunner phone. I

Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-03-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-03-02 Thread arne anka
It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) the dbus call ahs to be issued at least once after the start of frameworkd -- so, unless frameworkd has an option to do that by itself, you or an app has to do it -- but that

Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-03-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) the dbus call ahs to be issued at least once after the start of frameworkd -- so, unless frameworkd has an

Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-03-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:44:12 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no said: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: i really suggest you have a better look at the code. it uses timepoints. Good advice. Critic based on assumptions isn't good enough. Still, the problem remain. The user

Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-03-02 Thread arne anka
You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so far, on seems the most sensible way. when i call a hotline i don't want my number to end up in the database of some marketing dep of the company -- otoh when i call friends i want my number (resp my name, because i am in

Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko

2009-03-02 Thread Alejandro Sáiz
I'm very interested on having stardict (or its commandline version) too. From this discussion line it's not clear to me if you are using debian or if there is a way to install a debian package in 2008.x, could anyone please clarify this for me? Thanks! 2009/3/1 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de

Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-03-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so far, on seems the most sensible way. when i call a hotline i don't want my number to end up in the database of some marketing dep of the company --

Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
True, and that's closer to what I use on my computer. However, I believe the FR is mono anyways, no? And the quality can be dropped a ways (I think so at least) considering that it's playing from a cell phone. It still sounds perfectly clear, or at least as clear as can be expected from those

Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)

2009-03-02 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Now I know, that I won't want to buy GTA03, even if I had enough money (ok ok, if only i was some millionaire i would buy it, but until i'm not, there are other possibilities to spend money :P). My using scenario of

Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)

2009-03-02 Thread arne anka
But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the capacitive screen would not be a problem. then it would have been called G1. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle

2009-03-02 Thread hab keen oh ne
Hi Community, I have recently written a little utility, that draws the perpendicular line using the accelerometers. It is based upon SDL and SDL_ttf (for drawing the angle). I hope you can enjoy it, I will soon release a binary package. Here the source code:

Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
Spring a time for new beginnings and we have a plan. An Om2009 release plan that is. For the remainder of March we are going to be integrating. We're going put FSO milestone 5.5, the stable kernel, paroli and the new xorg-glamo drivers together and make our most stable distro ever. Any incomplete

Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
It's packaged for OpenWRT, and it shouldn't be difficult to package it for OpenEmbedded, so if it's not, that's easy to fix. Perhaps, but I can't get anything resembling a toolchain going... :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps

2009-03-02 Thread c_c
Hi, Helge Hafting wrote: in addition to the ophonekitd bugs there was also a bug in frameworkd regarding the release of the display resource. Has the fix been sent to FSO? I'm having similar problems on FSO. After I request resource CPU / Display - yhe release does not seem to restart

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread c_c
Hi, Helge Hafting wrote: With SHR, the normal use for AUX is to lock/unlock the screen. This is useful when you can't suspend, but still want to put the phone in a pocket where accidental pressing may happen. Well, I was thinking more of a configurable action - either in rules.yaml

Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps

2009-03-02 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:53, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:  Has the fix been sent to FSO? http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=65ebcc86e85980827925588753f47bebf6d4a96e ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko

2009-03-02 Thread Alejandro Sáiz
I'm running (as the Subject: says) Om2008.9 im my FR; and yes, you can install in some dirty way *.dep packages in Om2008.x; I do it this way, don't know if there is some other/better way: - untar the *.dep file $ tar xzf sdcv_0.4.2-9_armel.deb - move the resulting file 'data.tar.gz' to

Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko

2009-03-02 Thread arne anka
I've now sdcv working in UTF-8 with my Spanish dictionary. So you mean the pre-compiled binary can be run in a different distro as long as it meets the dependencies? That's good to know, thanks. the armel packages of debian are working with all other distros, too. since the package

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Monday 02 March 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: And about the enhancements and feature requests I'm serious they kill schedules so if you want us to make it don't ask for anything that's not in the UI spec ( to be released at http://www.paroli-project.org/, shortly I hope ). Thanks for keeping

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread flamma
Well, I was thinking more of a configurable action - either in rules.yaml (that covers some user cases) or by exposing the functionality in a known way that allows apps to override the normal usage. Also, there could be different uses depending on whether there is one press, two presses

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread flamma
Is THAT how you quit games in ScummVM? I have no idea what F5 does in it, but I haven't figured out how to quit games once I start them, short of killing it from SSH. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, I may be able to play Monkey Island on my FR after all. :) One other question, though... Is there a way to skip through long videos or intros? Escape does it on a normal system, but I can't do that for obvious reasons on the Freerunner. ___

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Ack, nope, AUX has no effect. I'm seriously wondering if my SHR is just screwed up so that AUX doesn't work at all, since I have not encountered a situation yet where hitting it did anything. Locking doesn't work either, which ticks me off... :\ ___

Re: New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle

2009-03-02 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:03 PM, hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Community, I have recently written a little utility, that draws the perpendicular line using the accelerometers. It is based upon SDL and SDL_ttf (for drawing the angle). I hope you can enjoy it, I will soon release

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread Damian Spriggs
I've had this happen when ScummVM freezes or exits unintentionally. I've found that starting and quitting ScumVM without playing anything brings the AUX lock back. you could also remap the key with xmodmap. On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:17 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Ack, nope, AUX has no

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread Damian Spriggs
try this: enlightenment_remote -binding-key-add ANY Keycode-177 NONE 1 simple_lock On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:36 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. ___

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 19:36, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. In /etc/X11/Xserver change vt1 to vt4 on line 116. ___ Openmoko

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, that got my lock screen back! Thanks!! :D Aux still has no effect on ScummVM as near as I can tell, but I can't get past the dumb intro screen so I don't know for sure... I need another SCUMM game. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-03-02 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have (omap3, 6410 etc.) Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm

Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)

2009-03-02 Thread Petr Vanek
so if you want collect offline every 10 seconds you have to push: offline mode, auto submit, auto check being on the road today i did remember this issue but not exactly as how to set c.h. properly to collect in offline mode so i also ended up not collecting anything... the offline button has a

Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections

2009-03-02 Thread Helge Hafting
My last attempt at speeding up yaouh was not only clunky to use, it also drove the cpu load up to 12-15, which made the phone extremely sluggish during the update. This time I took a different approach that keeps the load in the 0.3-0.5 range. There is no more parallelism than what you find in

Re: unable to get the boot menu

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:56:59 +0100 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote: So now I have what I believe to be everything I need on the SD but I'm unable to boot it! I've tried several times to follow the instructions on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner as well as

Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution

2009-03-02 Thread Steven **
You should probably specify exactly which image your testing on the Wiki page. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread flamma
Well, that got my lock screen back! Thanks!! :D Aux still has no effect on ScummVM as near as I can tell, but I can't get past the dumb intro screen so I don't know for sure... I need another SCUMM game. You should edit the script that launches scummvm and disable fullscreen mode. So, you

Announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones

2009-03-02 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
We're announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones. You're all invited to participate in the competition to code an audiobook / podcast player. Read the rules and more at http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ Aapo

Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections

2009-03-02 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Luns, 2 de Marzo de 2009, Helge Hafting escribiu: My last attempt at speeding up yaouh was not only clunky to use, it also It's really fast now!!! Thank you very much for this great program! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG:

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-03-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Works perfectly. :) Now, I get picky: looking at the way the scummvm script changes AUX to F5 and back, is there a way to do the same thing except change the power button to esc and back? I like the fullscreen... ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko

2009-03-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, March 03, 2009 a las 01:02:00AM +0700, Alejandro Sáiz escribió: However I get a message: sdcv: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: no version information available (required by sdcv) Does anyone know why? Me too; but for now I'm ignoring it; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager

Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted

2009-03-02 Thread Denis Shulyaka
Try to generate locale youself. Something like localedef --no-archive -c -i es-ES -f UTF-8 es-ES.utf8 2009/3/2, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: Hello, I need in my FR a Terminal which can handle UTF-8 output; r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 export DISPLAY r...@om-gta02:~# LANG=es_ES.UTF-8

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:14 -0700, Angus Ainslie wrote: During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the

Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-03-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:01:51 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz said: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have

Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-02 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Xoves, 26 de Febreiro de 2009, Dylan Reilly escribiu: FYI, there is a new version of pythm available on opkg.org I only miss one little thing When you add an entire directory to playlist, tracks are alphabetically ordered, but, if exists, they should be ordered by track # (from ID3 or ogg

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:56 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread HouYu Li
I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009

Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-02 Thread Dylan Reilly
* The cannot set suspend messages are OK. They are there in debug output for the sake of debugging. Pythm requests CPU resource from FSO to halt suspending during playback. Frameworkd is smart enough to only allow one lock per process. That message is FSO telling pythm that. * I fixed the volume

Re: Fwd: unable to get the boot menu

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:31:54 +0100 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried several times again. After removing the battery for several minutes the device automatically boots when the battery is replaced.  By the time I've turned the device around after replacing the back

Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution

2009-03-02 Thread Nacho Seijo
I agree, with Phone Log you have an overview log. That's great! But this is the only way you have to realize you have missed calls. Could it be possible to notify missed calls by a notification screen? Or even better, could it be possible to notify them by an icon on top shelf? Some new top shelf

Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections

2009-03-02 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/3/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: too. It looks like openstreetmap can have up to 50 files in a directory. So far this program has checked 5100 files in 12 minutes, and downloaded 260. It looks like it will get through all my 50.000 tiles in under 2 hours. I use wifi, the

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:40:21 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:08:31 +0800 HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. Package management is

Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-03-02 Thread Petr Vanek
Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? maybe. maybe not. this is the point where you will just be guessing. :) :) OK, i understand. cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org