[OM2009] Frameworkd not working?
Hi, two days ago i installed OM2009 on my freerunner and i'm quite impressed with the lookfeel of the gui. :) I flashed the latest kernel [1] and after first boot i installed the corresponding modules [2]. After reboot the modules were recognized and loaded. Now my problem is that it seems that frameworkd is not running. I can see in the process list, that fso-gpds and fso-monitord are running but no frameworkd. When i try to start frameworkd manually the init.d script says ok but no process is running. Therefor no frameworkd specific actions work. The power button is not attached to any action (suspend, shutdown) and no leds are working. Also i can't use any phone function with the preinstalled zhone. And after i installed paroli i got the problem that paroli crashes every time i try to start it. :-/ When i try to start frameworkd on the commandline (not the init.d script) i got the error EOFError: EOF read where object expected. And when i try to start mdbus i got the same error message. Could it be that there is any problem with the dbus because both programs rely on it? I know that OM2009 is still an early beta but maybe someone know a solution for the problem why frameworkd doesn't run. At last i want to say that i hope you people from openmoko keep up the good work even after the bad news spreading around the web. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119792+81c61a7d1abb03aecd13f5395aba355e996a1641-r4-om-gta02 [2] modules-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119792+81c61a7d1abb03aecd13f5395aba355e996a1641-r4-om-gta02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
On Saturday 18 April 2009, Nicola Mfb wrote: 2008/9/6 TL Mieszkowski mieszkow...@gmail.com: I've had a lot of success running both twinkle and asterisk and I thought I'd share my experiences. Twinkle works well, but the gui is limiting on the touchscreen. I think once configured properly asterisk will make an excellent voip backend for the neo. You can control it through asterisk manager commands by writing text strings to a socket, and which has hooks for most languages I'm sure. Let's survive this interesting topic. I will be happy to write an AMI gui but now I'm hold having problems with the alsa channel. Using the pcm default is not compatible with the default shipped /etc/asound.conf, so I just tried to use plughw:dnsoop and plughw:dmix, the result is that there freerunner does not ring on incoming call (and you cannot hear the other peer), while audio transmitting is perfect. I'm guessing 'does not ring' means it uses the earpiece for ringing instead of the speaker. You will need stereoout.state for the ringing, then change to voip-handset.state when answering the call. This is what is needed when working with linphone, although the change of state is not automated yet. voip-handset.state is in both FSO and SHR IIRC. You should be able to do the state switch with an asterisk script. Using plughw:0,0 for input/output works but I have stuttered audio (from freerunner to peer). I tried the mentioned asound.conf from koolu too, the same, If i move out from plughw there is no sound in fr with asterisk. If I use dnsoop form input and plughw for output, the input is stuttered again. I'm using shr-testing and asterisk 1.4.17-r1 from the same branch. As in the old thread there was success story may someone share some hint? For linphone I use Brian Code's asound.conf : http://www.koolu.org/asound.conf This uses dmix and dsnoop and gives stutter-free sound in both directions with linphone. It does have echo since we can't use the suppression in the GSM chipset. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
how i said, the sms-app also crashed in newer versions if i want to read some sms. in the old testing-version, it was working. i had now the trackback, hope, it help, to do something (i ha d no iea, but also no expirience in moko- python-code) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py, line 414, in handleResponseToRequest ok_cb( reqstring.strip(), response ) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py, line 999, in responseFromChannel result.append( ( index, status, str(sms.addr), sms.ud, sms.properties ) ) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py, line 471, in _getProperties map.update( self._get_udh() ) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py, line 326, in _get_udh map[csm_id] = self.udh[0][0]*256 + self.udh[0][1] KeyError: 0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:09:15 -0300 Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: There's a way to detect buzzfix by rapidly switching on and off MICBIAS and testing if you hear some buzz when recording from builtin mic. Werner has created a small program to do the switching job. I'm actually not sure if this approach works. You can hear the ~40-50 Hz buzz that program (*) generates well enough, but when I added a buzzfix capacitor, that artificial noise was still there. It could be that I did something wrong, though, including not actually applying the buzz fix. Maybe switching MICBIAS on and off creates an amplitude orders of magnitudes higher than than the one introduced with GSM. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? I am working on a similar project openBmap[1]. A thread has been started by Stefan from FSO about the state of the collaboration between the projects [2][3]. I am for collaboration and even for merge at least of some code or so. To my understanding, so far, cellhunter sees collaboration as sharing the data (Sebastian, please correct me if I am wrong). In the thread you will see that Sebastian will have little time to work on cellhunter until middle May. I let you read his answers in the mailing list archives, to make your mind. OpenBmap is welcoming collaboration. The source code git is available[4]. The work is currently going on there. Nick is taking care of the server side and website. The difference between the projects is that we focus on quality of data. We don't want to get a database full of bad data. Again you will find our arguments in the thread pointed above[5]. I copy paste it here for ease: quote That is the reason behind keeping more details about measures. This allows to gather a lot of data, but with time, we can trash the low quality ones, because we have got high quality ones since. This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed, then when you take your measure, the GPS position is very inaccurate. And the time you get notified that the GSM connection has changed, this adds to inaccuracy. My question is: do people think this argument makes sense? 2. Do OpenCellID or CellHunter think this could be possible to add these extra fields to their database, and measures? This would allow to use inaccurate data, until when we have better ones. Then we could filter the low quality measures. I think we are still all learning a lot, and this would imply that extra fields could be added in the future. So this is probably not only a one shot change. 3. The database should also keep track of the software (id and version) which has logged the data: this allows to ignore/remove data which has been submitted by a buggy software, even if the bug is discovered much later. That is also the idea behind keeping the GSM chip model + Firmware version + GPS chip, etc... end of quote In fact no one in my country is using it(looked at the map on cellhunter's site). By also looking at the map we can see that many regions are already covered. So when the next steps will be taken? I mean integrating the ability to get a fix from a network cell for GPS clients. TangoGPS for example? Or will cellhunter remain just a game? Jan has started some work on this in the framework (see git logs). On my side, I have also started some work on this. Nick and I build sqlite files for every country by operator, and I have started a DBus service which would query the file to give the current GSM based location. Because of lack of time, this goes slowly though. Any help would be very welcomed. [6] Feel free to ask if you have questions. OpenBmap package is located in SHR and FSO repositories (opkg install openbmap-logger), and on opkg.org website. Onen [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenBmap [2] http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/2009-April/000973.html [3] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005283.html [4] http://myposition.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=myposition [5] http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/2009-April/000975.html [6] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005290.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed, then when you take your measure, the GPS position is very inaccurate. And the time you get notified that the GSM connection has changed, this adds to inaccuracy. My question is: do people think this argument makes sense? I do. joerg also said that TA (time advance?) was a good measure IIRC y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed, then when you take your measure, the GPS position is very inaccurate. And the time you get notified that the GSM connection has changed, this adds to inaccuracy. My question is: do people think this argument makes sense? I do. joerg also said that TA (time advance?) was a good measure IIRC on basis of GPS data you could calculate a running average speed and based on that determine whether to use the measured data or not. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
My Freerunner has just been collecting dust for the last few months, and after reading a bit regarding the buzz/echo hardware/software problems, I sort of gave up the device. BUT, there has been enough complaining and moaning already, so I thought I'd try to find out what use I can make of the device *today*. In my house I've got a server that holds all my music (mainly ogg, and some mp3), I've got a MythTV backend (providing an upnp service I believe), I've got a wireless network (WPA2), and some radios/stereo players in various rooms. Technically, the Freerunner is capable of connecting to an upnp server of the wlan, right? And to decode ogg, and send (stereo) output throught the jack, right? (if not ogg, I guess I could do on-the-fly recoding of ogg on the server) I've briefly search the list and the wiki and found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications but I didn't find out if such an app really exists. Thing is, I have not yet managed to get a system up an running and connected to my wifi (I did have an early version of Qt sporadically connected, but got too frustrated by the interface). To be honest, I'm a bit lost regarding what distros currently exist and what distros are working. I tried the QT Extended Improved, but I guess I failed at following the somewhat long list of manual tweaking, so my FR doesn't currently boot (don't get me wrong, I highly appreciate the work done by the QtEI team). So what I ask is: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? (Is it possible to do *now*, or do I have to wait for teamA to finish featureX and make them talk to teamB, etc. Please be honest, I've been too optimistic for too long, and simply would like to know what are the possibilities as of today) best regards, MartinG -- When you change the subject, also change the subject line, okay? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
O Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, MartinG escribiu: So what I ask is: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? I think SHR testing or any debian based distro + mplayer can do what you want. I can connect to my WPA2 AP with both, and mplayer can play streams. There are some mplayer frontends for the neo: intone, pythm, gorsh player... For ogg, you should install tremor based mplayer: http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk It does use much less cpu on neo than libvorbis. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
You could flash shr-testing, use wpa-supplicant to connect to your wifi and mplayer to play streams I guess.I'm using the phone as a daily phone now. (However, only private). It works quite well as it is now.regardsRichard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
O Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, MartinG escribiu: So what I ask is: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? I forgot to say With shr you will be able to connect to your wlan with no extra software with mofi. Don't forget to turn on wifi on SHR-Settings before opening mofi Debian will be sightly more complex. You can download any of the mplayer frontends from www.opkg.org. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] timezone broken again
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:55 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: On Saturday 18 April 2009 02:20:47 William Kenworthy wrote: Try screen - run screen -L and it will log anything in the window to file (screenlog.0) - advantage also in that you can reattach and check whats happening as well. I presume there is no loading problems on normal operation leaving mickeyterm running? No problem as long as you don't want to use GPRS. ogsmd uses 3 out of 4 channels for the Calypso in normal operation, so the 4th is free for direct communication (mickeyterm) or ppp. :M: Thanks. Nothing yet (vodafone australia) I know they send the timezone occasionally as the timezone tried to be overwritten until I turned it off. My Treo was never able to get network time over a number of years, and now the FR has never shown any indication so I dont think its used. Will keep watching! BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
shr-testing (previous version) connects to wp2 AP using mofi - cant do wep for some reason streams mp3's over wifi from my ISP's freezone via mplayer audio is either speaker or motorola s9 BT A2DP headset The wifi range is poor, but works around the house - ~50% distance wise to a decent laptop BT range is average Some interaction between BT and wifi - you can buffer the wifi through mplayer, but not BT Dont use wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf and BT - BT then operates in spurts The wifi will drop dead (usually requiring a reboot) after a variable amount of time (but usually 1hr) BillK On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 13:17 +0200, MartinG wrote: My Freerunner has just been collecting dust for the last few months, and after reading a bit regarding the buzz/echo hardware/software problems, I sort of gave up the device. BUT, there has been enough complaining and moaning already, so I thought I'd try to find out what use I can make of the device *today*. In my house I've got a server that holds all my music (mainly ogg, and some mp3), I've got a MythTV backend (providing an upnp service I believe), I've got a wireless network (WPA2), and some radios/stereo players in various rooms. Technically, the Freerunner is capable of connecting to an upnp server of the wlan, right? And to decode ogg, and send (stereo) output throught the jack, right? (if not ogg, I guess I could do on-the-fly recoding of ogg on the server) I've briefly search the list and the wiki and found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications but I didn't find out if such an app really exists. Thing is, I have not yet managed to get a system up an running and connected to my wifi (I did have an early version of Qt sporadically connected, but got too frustrated by the interface). To be honest, I'm a bit lost regarding what distros currently exist and what distros are working. I tried the QT Extended Improved, but I guess I failed at following the somewhat long list of manual tweaking, so my FR doesn't currently boot (don't get me wrong, I highly appreciate the work done by the QtEI team). So what I ask is: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? (Is it possible to do *now*, or do I have to wait for teamA to finish featureX and make them talk to teamB, etc. Please be honest, I've been too optimistic for too long, and simply would like to know what are the possibilities as of today) best regards, MartinG -- When you change the subject, also change the subject line, okay? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Pander wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed, then when you take your measure, the GPS position is very inaccurate. And the time you get notified that the GSM connection has changed, this adds to inaccuracy. My question is: do people think this argument makes sense? I do. joerg also said that TA (time advance?) was a good measure IIRC on basis of GPS data you could calculate a running average speed and based on that determine whether to use the measured data or not. 1. We have a pretty accurate value out of GPS. Why do computation to get a less accurate one? Plus you would have to compute it out of some GPS points. Where logging the GPS speed, you only have to read one value. Imagine analysing a database of millions of points... 2. If I stop at a red light with my car, and a measure is taken there. The GPS will tell speed = 0 (or very close to). If you compute an average, then this high quality measure (you were not moving!) would become a you were going slower. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: auimd-0.3
O Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, Pierre Hébert escribiu: Hi ! I'm pleased to announce the third release of AUIMD, a user interface for Impressive, fast, and very very promising! Congratulations! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: auimd-0.3
On Sunday 19 April 2009, David Garabana Barro wrote: O Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, Pierre Hébert escribiu: Hi ! I'm pleased to announce the third release of AUIMD, a user interface for Impressive, fast, and very very promising! Congratulations! Thanks for the compliment :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Hi, ivvmm schrieb: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? In fact no one in my country is using it(looked at the map on cellhunter's site). By also looking at the map we can see that many regions are already covered. At the moment it is only me involved in the developing of cellhunter. At the end of mai i will finish my master thesis and then i will have some more time for cellhunter and developing will go on. So when the next steps will be taken? I mean integrating the ability to get a fix from a network cell for GPS clients. TangoGPS for example? Or will cellhunter remain just a game? Cellhunter will cooperate with opencellid.org, the largest cell database i know. with the api of opencellid someone can offer a program to get a fix with cells or agps support. perhaps some location service will be added to fso. cellhunter is not just a game, the main goal is to get the database and use the data. because it does not make sense to work only on the own data it will join its database into opencellid.org. with this cooperation there will be a good coverage worldwide and opencellid can provide the data to the enduser. for a coverage of opencellid look at: http://78.47.116.33/~hole/worldcells_opencellid.jpg cellhunter itself offers an api to query the cells known by cellhunter. So here is the call to all the developers around to create a location service based on the opencellid data. for me that database should be the main db and everyone can provide his data to this db. greetings, sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
2009/4/19 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: [...] Let's survive this interesting topic. I will be happy to write an AMI gui but now I'm hold having problems with the alsa channel. Using the pcm default is not compatible with the default shipped /etc/asound.conf, so I just tried to use plughw:dnsoop and plughw:dmix, the result is that there freerunner does not ring on incoming call (and you cannot hear the other peer), while audio transmitting is perfect. I'm guessing 'does not ring' means it uses the earpiece for ringing instead of the speaker. You will need stereoout.state for the ringing, then change to voip-handset.state when answering the call. This is what is needed when working with linphone, although the change of state is not automated yet. voip-handset.state is in both FSO and SHR IIRC. You should be able to do the state switch with an asterisk script. As AMI emits all needed events I'll add fso support for the GUI to handle the switching automatically, while for a true voip fso integration I think that's has to be discussed as actually on incoming GSM call fso will automatically switch to stereoout and gsm alsa state and may create problems during a voip session. But we may superseed on this actually until having a well working asterisk on freerunner, and I'll complete the AMI gui. However if I use plughw:0,0 in asterisk alsa.conf I may hear the ring in the earpiece (the only problem was that I had to change the speaker alsa control from 0 to max in voip state). I have stuttered outgoing audio, so I think the problem is with alsa buffer/periods etc., the proposed asound.conf file should work as create longer buffer/periods both for input and output, but using it asterisk does not speak anymore to the erapiece. I enabled the logging to maximum details and I may see effectively Alsa/default is ringing but no sound is emitted, and I do not know why, as in this situation aplay works fine. [...] For linphone I use Brian Code's asound.conf : http://www.koolu.org/asound.conf This uses dmix and dsnoop and gives stutter-free sound in both directions with linphone. It does have echo since we can't use the suppression in the GSM chipset. Asterisk should be able to do echo suppression? Is this present with external headphones too? regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
On Sunday 19 April 2009, Nicola Mfb wrote: 2009/4/19 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: For linphone I use Brian Code's asound.conf : http://www.koolu.org/asound.conf This uses dmix and dsnoop and gives stutter-free sound in both directions with linphone. It does have echo since we can't use the suppression in the GSM chipset. Asterisk should be able to do echo suppression? Potentially, assuming it doesn't use too much CPU. The linphone echo suppression option didn't seem to do anything, but I've not looked at why. Is this present with external headphones too? It shouldn't be, but I've not tried it. It might have buzz if GSM is transmitting too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
Hi, ..but as soon as it starts playing it, the GUI locks up and has to be killed. Until I kill the GUI, mplayer continues happily. Can you describe step-by-step what needs to be doneto make intone lock up? Must be something I missed. It would help if I know whats happening. Also, what version of mplayer are you using? Intone should not use while loops when reading answers from mplayer, or allow the loops to be broken after an apropriate timeout... I agree. I'm going to change over to ecore_exe_pipe_run. Will take a few days though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-lockup-tp2618845p2659404.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany
See http://totalueberwachung.de/blog/2009/04/16/freerunner-buzz-fix-party-in-braunschweig I'll also have exchange devices one way or the other. On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:49:34 +0200 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:46:26 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: with OM support i would surely like the fix to be applied I am currently waiting for the phones to arrive, until then I can't promise anything. Since the FSOSHRUDCON has been postponed I'm currently aiming at March 1st through March 3rd for the buzz fix party. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-testing] problem connecting to pc, and solution
hello. after having upgraded the shr-testing (reflash, wifi- opkg update, opkg upgrade) i wasn't able to connect to my pc, because the g_ether module insisted to use his default 00:1f mac address, and when connecting to pc the pc udev assigned to him an ethX interface name instead of usbX, disabling all the iptables and ifconfig configured settings. the solution i found was to give some options to the g_ether module, like this: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ touch /etc/modprobe.d/options r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo options g_ether host_addr=32:99:58:ea:d0:49 dev_addr=32:99:58:ea:d0:50 /etc/modprobe.d/options (it's 2 lines, the second one will probably appears truncated in the email) (i think you can invent the mac addresses by your fantasy, i just think they should be different, and don't start with 00. anyway, these 2 works for me) so, if anybody is having the same probem, you know what to do. now some questions to somebody more expert: - i tried to put this options file in /etc/modutils/ and executed update-modules, but at the reboot the module completely ignored it. after executing update-modules i found the /etc/modules.conf file empty (just a this file is generated... comment at start) and another /etc/modules file with the merged lines from /etc/modutils, and with my options too. still, this file seems not to be used at the module loading time. My question is: can /etc/modutils/*, /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modules altogether be removed so people don't lose hours trying to use them? or maybe they must be used in a way i didn't understand? - if i set a different mac address for each one of my om distributions, could i assign a different ip address (from my pc side), in order to not have all the ssh key conflicts each time i reflash or just change my fr running distribution? i think it's matter of writing some configuration rules for ifconfig, but is there some example around? btw, many compliments to all the developers of shr and fso, this is getting very good! -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] koolu beta 6?
http://koolu.org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
i considered it but as i couldnt do finger scrolling (middle of the window - swipe to scroll) i chose not to try and push the work back onto the app to adapt to a limited window side. Theoretically it should be possible to implement finger scrolling from the middle of the window starting with some recognizable gesture. Althouht don't know how this could be done at technical level. in reality - apps should probably handle this themselves. i know e's config dialogs mostly dont fit - but that is a todo item There is also everything else. Lots of X apps are not designed for small screen, and fixing all those looks like much more work than making it possible to access larger-than-screen windows. Btw, these two ways don't exclude each other :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] koolu beta 6?
Pieter Colpaert escribió: http://koolu.org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I tried it the other day and it got stuck booting at a koolu splash screen, so I didn't really get too far on testing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] timezone broken again
I'm not getting anything, except +CRING: VOICE which I assume is a call. Perhaps they do it some other way? I know it's getting done somehow, I just haven't the foggiest idea how. :P Telcos may not be the most cooperative creatures, but perhaps you could just ask one how they do it? You'd have to dig deep to find someone who knows, but surely someone would. Or maybe I'm just being naive. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qik Roam SIM card?
Has anybody tried a Qik Roam SIM card in a Freerunner? http://qikroam.com/Shop/Buy.aspx Pay-as-you-go voice and data. They say it works in 213 countries, including the U.S. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] koolu beta 6?
I tried it a few days ago: Pros: - I liked the installation. They package everything in a single tarball that you expand on your SD card. Boot from the card, and it installs QI, kernel, and root fs. No mucking about trying to figure out which kernel works with what release - After the first time booting (which will take a very long time. Let it sit for a while), it boots fairly quickly. - UI is fast and responsive Cons: - Connectivity just isn't there, at least for me. It would find my open wifi, but kept dropping (even when I was sitting right next to the base station. Could not connect to my service provider with any sort of strength (ATT). I get full bars in SHR. - It seemed to forget settings. I changed the ringtones, and it went back to the default After not being able to use it as a phone, I went back to SHR. In all, a good start, and something I'll be keeping my eyes on (d) On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Pieter Colpaert wrote: http://koolu.org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR Testing upgrade question
In SHR Testing is it wise to do a opkg upgrade command, would it be any different than what comes in the image that gets flashed on the phone, basically if I were to flash a older release of SHR testing onto my phone would opkg update opkg upgrade take me up to the version that was released on April 16th or would it break my phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
2009/4/19 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: 2009/4/19 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: [...] I have stuttered outgoing audio, so I think the problem is with alsa buffer/periods etc., the proposed asound.conf file should work as create longer buffer/periods both for input and output, but using it asterisk does not speak anymore to the erapiece. I enabled the logging to maximum details and I may see effectively Alsa/default is ringing but no sound is emitted, and I do not know why, as in this situation aplay works fine. I did some test and think (hope) isolated the problem. Asterisk get an fd poll descriptor from alsa playback pcm, when a sound has to be emitted this fd is added to the write fdset. The alsa thread loops around select() and when the alsa driver is ready to receive more frames to write the select is waken and asterisk effectively send out the sound. Now that's working only if using plughw:0,0 as the output device, with some sort of dmix, multiplexer etc, the select will never be waken by the write fd descriptor so asterisk will never emit any sound. Some alsa guru may take a look at the chan_alsa.c file of asterisk 1.4.17? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Onen wrote: Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? I am working on a similar project openBmap[1]. A thread has been started by Stefan from FSO about the state of the collaboration between the projects [2][3]. I am for collaboration and even for merge at least of some code or so. To my understanding, so far, cellhunter sees collaboration as sharing the data (Sebastian, please correct me if I am wrong). In the thread you will see that Sebastian will have little time to work on cellhunter until middle May. I let you read his answers in the mailing list archives, to make your mind. OpenBmap is welcoming collaboration. The source code git is available[4]. The work is currently going on there. Nick is taking care of the server side and website. The difference between the projects is that we focus on quality of data. We don't want to get a database full of bad data. Again you will find our arguments in the thread pointed above[5]. I copy paste it here for ease: quote That is the reason behind keeping more details about measures. This allows to gather a lot of data, but with time, we can trash the low quality ones, because we have got high quality ones since. This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed, then when you take your measure, the GPS position is very inaccurate. And the time you get notified that the GSM connection has changed, this adds to inaccuracy. My question is: do people think this argument makes sense? 2. Do OpenCellID or CellHunter think this could be possible to add these extra fields to their database, and measures? This would allow to use inaccurate data, until when we have better ones. Then we could filter the low quality measures. I think we are still all learning a lot, and this would imply that extra fields could be added in the future. So this is probably not only a one shot change. 3. The database should also keep track of the software (id and version) which has logged the data: this allows to ignore/remove data which has been submitted by a buggy software, even if the bug is discovered much later. That is also the idea behind keeping the GSM chip model + Firmware version + GPS chip, etc... end of quote In fact no one in my country is using it(looked at the map on cellhunter's site). By also looking at the map we can see that many regions are already covered. So when the next steps will be taken? I mean integrating the ability to get a fix from a network cell for GPS clients. TangoGPS for example? Or will cellhunter remain just a game? Jan has started some work on this in the framework (see git logs). On my side, I have also started some work on this. Nick and I build sqlite files for every country by operator, and I have started a DBus service which would query the file to give the current GSM based location. Because of lack of time, this goes slowly though. Any help would be very welcomed. [6] Feel free to ask if you have questions. OpenBmap package is located in SHR and FSO repositories (opkg install openbmap-logger), and on opkg.org website. Onen [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenBmap [2] http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/2009-April/000973.html [3] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005283.html [4] http://myposition.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=myposition [5] http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/2009-April/000975.html [6] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005290.html Okay, I see. The both applications: openBmap and Cellhunter have their advantages and disadvantages. I have several questions about openBmap. Cellhunter allows not to have an account and still contribute to the DB(remain anonymous, or to be more specific --- not to connect the data you send with one special nickname, but to hide among many). That's the serious thing which prevents me from using it. Additionally registration could be implemented in the app itself for easiness. The second question is: the cellhunter's developers stated that they will merge their DB with opencellid.org, which is a rather big one. Are you going to do same things? Or are you going to just collect the data for one unique database which is just truly accurate? Why can't the user control the rate in which application collects the data? I am not that sure about this feature as I do not know the internals of the application. But explanation is: if you move on foot you do not need to log data every 30 seconds. If you move on a bicycle you do not need to log data every 10 seconds. If you move on a car you have to collect data every ten seconds or so. Hope you got the point. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Hi, At the moment it is only me involved in the developing of cellhunter. At the end of mai i will finish my master thesis and then i will have some more time for cellhunter and developing will go on. Can't wait for the future versions, or to say more for more features and less bugs! Cellhunter will cooperate with opencellid.org, the largest cell database i know. with the api of opencellid someone can offer a program to get a fix with cells or agps support. perhaps some location service will be added to fso. These are great news. But it is very sorry that now no one claimed that this functionality will be provided. To speak more frankly many people would be glad to hear from the developer of TangoGPS, Marcus Bauer, that he is going to implement this feature. cellhunter is not just a game, the main goal is to get the database and use the data. because it does not make sense to work only on the own data it will join its database into opencellid.org. with this cooperation there will be a good coverage worldwide and opencellid can provide the data to the enduser. for a coverage of opencellid look at: http://78.47.116.33/~hole/worldcells_opencellid.jpg cellhunter itself offers an api to query the cells known by cellhunter. So here is the call to all the developers around to create a location service based on the opencellid data. for me that database should be the main db and everyone can provide his data to this db. greetings, sebastian Thank you very much for your response. Would like to say 'going to hear from you at the end of may'. Cannot query features now as you already stated that you will be busy until that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 05:11:36PM -0700, Mike Montour wrote: chg_curlim controls the battery charger, while usb_curlim controls the total current that can be drawn from the USB port (charging + the current used by the Freerunner). Note that whenever you set usb_curlim (directly or indirectly by plugging in power), chg_curlim is set to the new value of usb_curlim. usb_curlim can be 0, 100, 500 or 1000 while chg_curlim is between 0 and 996 (in steps of about 4). -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without changin the main code. I don't say it's not possible with GTK but it way more complicated. The edje file for illume is 5 lines of code. In a language where lots of code is in macro definitions that have no block constructs, so they have to be all on one line... or escape every line ending. I wont say it's better in GTK, but it not exactly trivial for E. - Gunnar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
On Sunday 19 April 2009, ivvmm wrote: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Cellhunter will cooperate with opencellid.org, the largest cell database i know. with the api of opencellid someone can offer a program to get a fix with cells or agps support. perhaps some location service will be added to fso. These are great news. But it is very sorry that now no one claimed that this functionality will be provided. To speak more frankly many people would be glad to hear from the developer of TangoGPS, Marcus Bauer, that he is going to implement this feature. Why should the apps have to support it? The location service need only supply data according to the gypsy protocol to have most existing apps 'just work.' Apps using gpsd will be taken care of by fso-gpsd. It really shouldn't matter to the apps that the data came from something other than a gps unit, be it cell tower, wifi, bluetooth or the magic location pixie. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 21:50, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: I wont say it's better in GTK, but it not exactly trivial for E. It IS trivial. Default theme is large, but you can simply override interesting you classes. Look, how it's done in e-wm-theme-illume-shr theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fw: [SHR] This may be a stupid question, but...
I just got my freerunner a week ago so be gentle! =P I've been playing with the various distros, and I think I like SHR best. but it has a few problems. namely the finger scrolling being enormously slow. when I was playing around with 2008.12, the theme for that was WAY faster, and more usable. so... Is it possible to use the ASU theme on SHR? any hints? oh, and to all the people complaining about the phone- I love this device. it's freaking awesome to play with. =) I'll admit it's not quite ready to use as a normal phone yet, but just to play with it is fun. thanks, Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] problem connecting to pc, and solution
On Sunday 19 April 2009 18:52:29 Previdi Roberto wrote: - if i set a different mac address for each one of my om distributions, could i assign a different ip address (from my pc side), in order to not have all the ssh key conflicts each time i reflash or just change my fr running distribution? i think it's matter of writing some configuration rules for ifconfig, but is there some example around? Why fiddle with the MAC address if you can give each distro a different IP address directly, in /etc/network/interfaces on the phone. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:31:39 -0700 Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca said: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: . so what other choices do you have if you have eliminated qt for license reasons and you think gtk is just not up to snuff and is unlikely to get there easily without major breaks? I've been a fan of fltk for a little while now (have only written the most basic things with it and that was 3-4 years ago), what are your opinions of it in regards to the neo? It's very fast and light, I think Dillo is written in fltk and it's lightning fast with a small footprint. What do you guys think about a stack (on top of debian for convenience) that uses flwm and everything else in fltk? isn't fltk just a wrapper around gtk? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] problem connecting to pc, and solution
if is is just for ssh, you can just affect them different names. It is how i proceed : one way to have an easier life when playing with multple system is to create an entry in /etc/host like this : 192.168.0.202 om shr shr2 then ssh r...@om or s...@shr instead of using s...@192.168.0.202 then you will have a different key for each system ssh might complaint about 192.168.0.202 but won't prevent connection if you just confirm it is ok Philippe 2009/4/19 Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net On Sunday 19 April 2009 18:52:29 Previdi Roberto wrote: - if i set a different mac address for each one of my om distributions, could i assign a different ip address (from my pc side), in order to not have all the ssh key conflicts each time i reflash or just change my fr running distribution? i think it's matter of writing some configuration rules for ifconfig, but is there some example around? Why fiddle with the MAC address if you can give each distro a different IP address directly, in /etc/network/interfaces on the phone. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:31:39 -0700 Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca said: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: . so what other choices do you have if you have eliminated qt for license reasons and you think gtk is just not up to snuff and is unlikely to get there easily without major breaks? I've been a fan of fltk for a little while now (have only written the most basic things with it and that was 3-4 years ago), what are your opinions of it in regards to the neo? It's very fast and light, I think Dillo is written in fltk and it's lightning fast with a small footprint. What do you guys think about a stack (on top of debian for convenience) that uses flwm and everything else in fltk? isn't fltk just a wrapper around gtk? No, it really is a completely independent toolkit and really lightweight. However, this doesn't make it a good choice if you can avoid it. Sure, if you have 16 MB Ram and 8 MB Rom as only storage it is pretty neat. However, we don't have that limitations, so all the disadvantages hit without bringing any advantages at all (nobody would think of an FLTK-only toolkit in an environment with 128 MB Ram). Raster, you wouldn't use it anyway, because it's written in C++ and as far as I know there are no C bindings :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-testing] hope this isn't a stupid question...
I just received my freerunner last week, so please be gentle! =P I have played around with the various distros, and I finally decided that SHR was the best one to play with. (for right now) but the ASU theme for 2008.12 was a LOT faster and more usable than the Illuem-SHR theme. So, is it possible to install the ASU theme on SHR? thanks, Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Testing upgrade question
2009/4/20 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: In SHR Testing is it wise to do a opkg upgrade command, would it be any different than what comes in the image that gets flashed on the phone, basically if I were to flash a older release of SHR testing onto my phone would opkg update opkg upgrade take me up to the version that was released on April 16th or would it break my phone? until my networking got fubar'd on the last upgrade, on friday, opkg upgrade was working fine for me. i'm not sure whether the problem is something i did, or a problem with shr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future
ivvmm wrote: Okay, I see. The both applications: openBmap and Cellhunter have their advantages and disadvantages. Please, feel free to write to me (publicly or privately) with your comments and/or suggestions about openBmap. The ToDo list is growing at the moment with people suggestions, but they do not get forgotten. I have several questions about openBmap. Cellhunter allows not to have an account and still contribute to the DB(remain anonymous, or to be more specific --- not to connect the data you send with one special nickname, but to hide among many). That's the serious thing which prevents me from using it. Additionally registration could be implemented in the app itself for easiness. Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of anonymous account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an account? Did I understand you correctly? Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me. But is it good enough regarding legal aspect? Creative commons license makes you have to put the name of contributors (and possibly link them to the data they provided, not sure about this). Is an anonymous account compatible with this? I guess, if people would upload using a same account, this would be one contributor name, and would legally be ok, isn't it? About registration in the app. Why not. I like the idea. Added to ToDo list :-) The second question is: the cellhunter's developers stated that they will merge their DB with opencellid.org, which is a rather big one. Are you going to do same things? Or are you going to just collect the data for one unique database which is just truly accurate? The licenses are compatible between the three projects. So each of them could download and merge the data from the others. To clarify things cellhunter will not merge his database with opencellid. Sebastian will push the updates of his own database to opencellid on a regular basis. That is how I understand it. It means, two similar databases will co-exist, doing similar things. We have been proposing merges of databases and/or client, instead of regular push of data, in order to diminish the similar efforts in parallel. But so far without success. I still hope to see some progresses in this direction. Why can't the user control the rate in which application collects the data? I am not that sure about this feature as I do not know the internals of the application. But explanation is: if you move on foot you do not need to log data every 30 seconds. If you move on a bicycle you do not need to log data every 10 seconds. If you move on a car you have to collect data every ten seconds or so. Hope you got the point. The openBmap logger allows you to do so. There is not graphical interface for this, you have to modify the config file by hand before starting the app. But I got your point. I am mixed between giving more freedom to the user to config the app, and the more complicated interface this would present to him. Some people prefer the app to just log, without changing all kind of parameters... But I add it to the ToDo list and will think about it. Thanks for all your suggestions, please keep going! Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian
2009/4/19 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com:
[...]
Some alsa guru may take a look at the chan_alsa.c file of asterisk 1.4.17?
Here a little c snippet to show you easily the problem (that I have on
the desktop too). So it seems an alsa-lib bug/feature ?
#include alsa/asoundlib.h
int main(int argc, char **argv) {
int err;
snd_pcm_t *handle;
struct pollfd pfd;
fd_set fds;
err = snd_pcm_open(handle, default ,
SND_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK, O_NONBLOCK);
if (err 0) {
puts(snd_pcm_open error);
exit(1);
}
err = snd_pcm_poll_descriptors_count(handle);
if (err != 1) {
puts(snd_pcm_poll_descriptors_count problem);
exit(1);
}
snd_pcm_poll_descriptors(handle, pfd, err);
FD_ZERO(fds);
FD_SET(pfd.fd,fds);
err=select(pfd.fd+1,NULL,fds,NULL,NULL);
if (err1) puts(select failed);
puts(Ok);
}
Save the above line in alsatest.c and compile with cc -o alsatest
alsatest.c -lasound,
launch it and if default is dmixed you well not see Ok.
Changing default in plughw:0,0 or hw:0,0 in alsatest.c recompile and
you'll see the Ok immediately e.g. the behaviour that asterisk would
like!
Regards
Nicola
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R: Re: [android] koolu beta 6?
Just installed. Very easy and fast. simple test results: GSM works! audio call good, I didn't test how the receiver hears my voice. WIFI got connected (but I had to install qad-keybord to set the passwd) but browser is unable to load any pages. I manually set the dns (with open dns) but it doesn't work; using th enumeric ip address it works! That's all for now michele Messaggio originale Da: damianspri...@mac.com Data: 19/04/2009 20.57 A: pieter. colpa...@gmail.com, List for Openmoko community discussioncommun...@lists. openmoko.org Ogg: Re: [android] koolu beta 6? I tried it a few days ago: Pros: - I liked the installation. They package everything in a single tarball that you expand on your SD card. Boot from the card, and it installs QI, kernel, and root fs. No mucking about trying to figure out which kernel works with what release - After the first time booting (which will take a very long time. Let it sit for a while), it boots fairly quickly. - UI is fast and responsive Cons: - Connectivity just isn't there, at least for me. It would find my open wifi, but kept dropping (even when I was sitting right next to the base station. Could not connect to my service provider with any sort of strength (ATT). I get full bars in SHR. - It seemed to forget settings. I changed the ringtones, and it went back to the default After not being able to use it as a phone, I went back to SHR. In all, a good start, and something I'll be keeping my eyes on (d) On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Pieter Colpaert wrote: http://koolu. org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists. openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko. org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting
Hi, I'm about ready to flash a new distro onto the FreRuuner main memory but since it'll be the first time I wanted to try backing up the existing distro first. So I followed the steps on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup . However I'm unable to back up the rootfs as it takes more than 40 minutes and after 40minutes the FreeRunner continues to boot and I get: $ time sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U 20090419-rootfs.jffs2 [sudo] password for m8ram: dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=11, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=4096 Starting upload: [### dfu_upload error -84 real40m5.588s user0m0.088s sys 0m1.357s Is there a way to prevent this or to speed up the backup? Or have it continue where it left off? The backup is already 247M... Thanks in advance Bram ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
R: Re: [android] koolu beta 6?
problem with the dns is due to the fact that when I reboot the freerunner the dns property in the init.rc is override with the default value! michele Messaggio originale Da: nar...@iol.it Data: 20/04/2009 0.03 A: community@lists.openmoko.org Ogg: R: Re: [android] koolu beta 6? Just installed. Very easy and fast. simple test results: GSM works! audio call good, I didn't test how the receiver hears my voice. WIFI got connected (but I had to install qad-keybord to set the passwd) but browser is unable to load any pages. I manually set the dns (with open dns) but it doesn't work; using th enumeric ip address it works! That's all for now michele Messaggio originale Da: damianspri...@mac.com Data: 19/04/2009 20.57 A: pieter. colpa...@gmail.com, List for Openmoko community discussion commun...@lists. openmoko.org Ogg: Re: [android] koolu beta 6? I tried it a few days ago: Pros: - I liked the installation. They package everything in a single tarball that you expand on your SD card. Boot from the card, and it installs QI, kernel, and root fs. No mucking about trying to figure out which kernel works with what release - After the first time booting (which will take a very long time. Let it sit for a while), it boots fairly quickly. - UI is fast and responsive Cons: - Connectivity just isn't there, at least for me. It would find my open wifi, but kept dropping (even when I was sitting right next to the base station. Could not connect to my service provider with any sort of strength (ATT). I get full bars in SHR. - It seemed to forget settings. I changed the ringtones, and it went back to the default After not being able to use it as a phone, I went back to SHR. In all, a good start, and something I'll be keeping my eyes on (d) On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Pieter Colpaert wrote: http://koolu. org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists. openmoko. org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko. org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko. org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting
2009/4/20 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com: Is there a way to prevent this or to speed up the backup? Or have it continue where it left off? The backup is already 247M... the obvious (to me, anyway), would be: how much of the stuff on there do you need? i'm sure you can delete/copy over ssh some of the bigger files, or uninstall some software. personally i have lots of software installed that i got to test, and then never used again. or are there any temp/cache/log files you can clean out? that might be enough to bring it under 40 minutes it should really allow you to back up the lot, but then there are lots of things the software doesn't do yet ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
Am 14.04.2009 um 23:08 schrieb drac2000: ... Hey and when you use vdr (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Disk_Recorder ) and a plugin to transcode it for small screens, you could watch tv live! ... I am a big Vdr fun I am trying to make it work on vdr playback first When you say watch tv live what do you mean by that ? You're gonna kill me if you tell me that you are watching live Vdr on your FR I can watch german DVB-T stream live on my Neo :-) But not yet recorded videos, because I havent found a plugin for vdr to transcode recordings AND stream them. An option would be a client that browses a samba share of recorded videos, but then the transcodings must be processed anyhow beforehand. I have created a video about that showing it working in parallel to my Mac showing news. But the video is currently about 2Gig :-( Not compressed VGA size. There is also other report about the neo and it's usability - but german - I haven't yet translated the video to english. This + shrinking the size costs another day of work I think. What could I use to get it ready for youtube (Linux or mac)? I have created the video with my Nicon S500 camera and done the cut with HyperEngine-AV on my Mac. Not good, but you see it working :-) Some issues with navit I reported are not correct at all for now. so I think I will cut them out and create only a short one for vdr + neo issue. Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Watching-videos-on-neo-freerunner-%28openmoko-2008.12%29-mplayer-glamo-tp2141404p2635374.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo
Am Montag, 20. April 2009 00:39:38 schrieb Lothar Behrens: This + shrinking the size costs another day of work I think. What could I use to get it ready for youtube (Linux or mac)? ffmpeg and/or kdenlive are great. Kdenlive tends to segfault though, which is not too bad because it records every step and never lost work already done yet. :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] hope this isn't a stupid question...
What version? shr-testing prior to the current one had enlightenment using 30+% of cpu slowing everythingdown. The fix is to move a desktop file in/out of /usr/share/applications. Black magic - search the list for the details. BillK On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 16:19 -0500, Young wrote: I just received my freerunner last week, so please be gentle! =P I have played around with the various distros, and I finally decided that SHR was the best one to play with. (for right now) but the ASU theme for 2008.12 was a LOT faster and more usable than the Illuem-SHR theme. So, is it possible to install the ASU theme on SHR? thanks, Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:50:10 +0200
Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote:
1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we
want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change
their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog -
without changin the main code. I don't say it's not possible with
GTK but it way more complicated.
The edje file for illume is 5 lines of code.
In a language where lots of code is in macro definitions that have no
block constructs, so they have to be all on one line... or escape
every line ending.
I wont say it's better in GTK, but it not exactly trivial for E.
- Gunnar
Actually, the illume.edc file for FSO MS5.1 and SHR right now is about
2700 lines, and the default.edc is about ten times that. (NOT claiming
they're small, granted) Having burrowed through each of them several
times from start to finish, I can also say that they could easily be
reduced to 2000 lines and probably under 15,000 lines respectively,
just by eliminating commented-out sections, comments, and
simplifying sections that are 'verbose', like having three lines
rel2 {
relative: 0.75 0.75;
}
when it could be one line with rel2.relative: 0.75 0.75;
But the number of lines isn't a useful measure of much anyway, it
reflects thoroughness as much as complexity.
j
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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07:55AM +0200, Bram Mertens wrote: Hi, I'm about ready to flash a new distro onto the FreRuuner main memory but since it'll be the first time I wanted to try backing up the existing distro first. So I followed the steps on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup . Which version of U-Boot are you using? DFU Upload was broken at least until 2008-10-17. 2008-10-07 Harald Welteu-boot: Fix DFU upload in u-boot http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=414367bf5b65942947dd5d569c27d2a8e8e5e562 -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: test QtEI
Hi,As far as I know, qt-extended currently does not support * , # chars in dial string. On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using: Qt-Extended: 4.4.3 build by liho...@dashi-x02 on Apr 3 2009 Kernel: 2.6.24 compiled by bu...@barbie Thankyou for your fast answer :) On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009 Vodafone UK SIM). Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com: My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#) to check various things (credit, sms left and so on). After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this case, Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the specific numbers. How can I debug it to make a better report? -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia Sent from Milan, MI, Italy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: auimd-0.3
Hi ! I'm pleased to announce the third release of AUIMD, a user interface for mobile devices written with PyQt. This version focuses on the usability of the phone application and mainly adds support for a call log and basic management of contacts. Does phone application use FSO frameworkd, or works with hardware directly? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: auimd-0.3
On Monday 20 April 2009, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Hi ! I'm pleased to announce the third release of AUIMD, a user interface for mobile devices written with PyQt. This version focuses on the usability of the phone application and mainly adds support for a call log and basic management of contacts. Does phone application use FSO frameworkd, or works with hardware directly? Yes indeed, the phone application relies on FSO for voice calls. However call log and contacts are managed in a separate and completely specific sqlite database. Currently auimd does not try to read contacts from the SIM. Regards, Pierre. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
