Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally ignore it. Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its international prefix! If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions
Cameron Frazier wrote: Evening all, I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so, and am in need of some advice. I'd like to use my FR over there, and as such need a prepaid SIM. As for requirements; 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America sucks this for reasonable plans). I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. Any suggestions? Qik Roam has a prepaid SIM that works in hundreds of countries. But I have no idea if anybody has succeeded in getting one working in a Freerunner. http://www.qikroam.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a CVS uploader to import bulk CSV data files mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have any OpenMoko phone to test it. I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate them. Regards, 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from other projects. AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each other) on collecting cells as OpenBmapOpenCellID - well, you just collect the cells. AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to find the position of a phone, right? 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of Open Source. Can't really see it here. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti Leonti On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg t.landsp...@8motions.com wrote: Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a CVS uploader to import bulk CSV data files mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have any OpenMoko phone to test it. I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate them. Regards, 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from other projects. AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each other) on collecting cells as OpenBmapOpenCellID - well, you just collect the cells. AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to find the position of a phone, right? 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of Open Source. Can't really see it here. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:01:48AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally ignore it. Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its international prefix! If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... Ah... that's news for me, I thought 00 was a standard! Then + as a standard is perfectly natural, it's a way to hide that complexity from a normal person, then the phone must know from the country code if it's 00, 0011, etc... Sucks... it makes it a bit confusing... for instance: Portugal +351... Albania +355... Fortunately there's no +35 so you can have a rule for +35X NUMBER I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Bah, it's good for your memory! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, I live in Bangalore and have an FR-A5. I am actually in the process of getting buzz fix done through a local talent (acquaintance/colleague). I need to find time to buy the components (0402: 2.2K and the tantalum cap) and coach him on what needs to be done. I am open to sending the phone to Delhi if all 3 fixes are on the menu. If its just the buzz, I would rather get it done here in Bangalore. Thank you guys for setting this up! Regards, Ganesh K On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Alok G. Singh alephn...@hcoop.net wrote: Vikas Saurabh wrote: Alok G. Singh () FR - A7, afaict. -- Alok Your aim is high and to the right. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions
Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: Great, everything is working perfectly, thanks a lot for the help :-) I have one last question though: what is the recommended action to do when not using the FR? Should I suspend it (I assume that's what happens when I click the power button once) or simply let the screen turn off? Obviously suspending would be the better option battery-life-wise, but does this affect any of the phone's functionality? Suspend should work just fine. In screen-off mode the phone will not last very long (~8hours), so suspend is better solution. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:41 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Same here - just a static ip for the fr's mac address on ubuntu works great for me. I've been on static IP for quite a while, but between work and home it was starting to get messy. With udhcpd, it's now much more convenient. I could even decide to change the Moko's network for something less common than 192.168.0.0 at no cost. The best would be to have a very light dhcpd daemon who only runs on USB insertion, serves only one address with a very long lease, and then dies after a few minutes. But maybe I'm dreaming there ;) -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V8
FreedomSound wrote: I found an issue with sim code request. I generaly use my phone without a simcode. But today, I installed Qtmokov8 and it didn't give me the hand. At first, The touch screen didn't work on HomeScreen. I pressed the AUX button, tried anything and came back at the HomeScreen. Here the phone asked me for the SimCode but I had'nt one. I was blocked... So, I toke my old phone to set a code in the simcard and put it back in my FR. Restart it again. FR asked me instantly for my PIN code. I did it and I could use the FR after validate. Sorry for my poor english. I wish that you undertsand me. Yes understand. But no idea how can i reproduce and if i have time to fix this :) Anyways thanks for reporting Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
[cut] I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. Hope thats fine! I just wanted to be sure about date, by ...on Apr 20th. you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V8
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Radek Polakpson...@seznam.cz wrote: i am just uploading new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ [snip] As for the speed, this image is finally fast and responsive and i think it's very usable. This time I will leave testing on you - hopefully nothing nasty crept in. Thanks for the release. I only got time to test it today. Basic functionality works. I like the speed of this release; finally my phone is usable again ;-) Thanks a lot again, I will report back if I find some bugs. -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
Hi I accidentaly changed the illume theme from illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think that could hurt so much :-D but since i dont have the topbar anymore, i can't get to the illume wrench to change it back. i'd do it through the terminal, but i have no keyboard - because that is in the topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine at this point - probably something with /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ? hilarious, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Vikas Saurabh wrote: Shashank Bharadwaj () FR - A6 (I think) -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
2009/9/2 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl: I accidentaly changed the illume theme from illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think that could hurt so much :-D but since i dont have the topbar anymore, i can't get to the illume wrench to change it back. i'd do it through the terminal, but i have no keyboard - because that is in the topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine at this point - probably something with /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ? i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings not sure why there's no topbar anymore, i'm sure both themes have it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I just wanted to be sure about date, by ...on Apr 20th. you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? Ah...sorry my mistake.. I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a mail on this list to announce that IDA Systems would be having a buzz fix program in India. We still haven't been able to figure out how FRs would get at one place to get the fix done...so the actual buzz fix party date is not anywhere on the papers :( --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi I accidentaly changed the illume theme from illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think that could hurt so much :-D but Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) Check out whe wiki for changing back with an mdbus command: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#How_do_I_change_the_theme_.28Illume_.2F_Paroli_.2F_Paroli-serenity.29.3F HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Christ van Willegencvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) It would also help if I'd read everything... since you've got no keyboard and no SSH, this is going to be difficult... TH not.. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [SHR] Setting regional codes
+ should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally ignore it. Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its international prefix! If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Christ van Willegen -- Adding my observations to the mix: I haven't changed any of the phone settings and store all my phone numbers in the international format (with '+' sign). In the config file the default country code is set to 49, which is different from my actual country code. Incomming calls and messages map very nice to the contact names. I haven't received any international calls or text messages since I've started using SHR-U, but will keep an eye on it. Niels. _ Reageer op foto’s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) @Vikas, was waiting for your update. I too have been busy but will have time from next week. Let me know if you need any help. I have a FR - A5, in for Buzz and Bug #1024 atleast. Let me see about the Bass. -- Vibhav Sharma (khoonirobo) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved]
Hi i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it. thanks! *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved]
2009/9/2 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl: i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it. of course, you can always log in through ssh over usb ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Hi! I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on these two issues? Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit there. Which would be disappointing... I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget that points at the widget's center - intentionally? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with intone
2009/9/2 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin. Do post back. Thanks Again. i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6 albums), so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical no error message on the console, other than segfault ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti yes, it is lots of fun :) , the website is down now, what team do you kick for? :)) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
Marcel-2 wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Hi! I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on these two issues? Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit there. Which would be disappointing... I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget that points at the widget's center - intentionally? Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to switch it on or off. Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as fast as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my implementation? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3565673.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments
http://www.samsungapps.com/ - they're copying us! David: great to see the svn! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments
2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: http://www.samsungapps.com/ - they're copying us! LOL, is a GPL project they are allowed to do it meanwhile they get access to the original source :) jokes a part , this can be a source of inspiration , lets see if they provide innovative ideas or will be only a list of payfordownload apps with some pics. David: great to see the svn! thanks :), looks pretty isn't it? :) so if the code looks so fine the final app has to be twice better :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments
2009/9/2 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org: On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:09:30AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: [...] course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step more of this long road. https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ Hooray! also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,... etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P) Count me in! Shall I give you an ssh public key or how do we do this? Hi ssh+svn through a public key maybe is the most comfortable option, so send me a private mail with user name do you want i and a public key to generate the key(Markus sure you know but maybe other willing to colaborate and this aplies to anyone wanting to code on this) on the pc you want to use your local svn clone $ mkdir ~/.ssh/ $ cd ~/.ssh/ $ ssh-keygen -t dsa and send to me the ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub the only difference from the original apt-portal checkout is opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the succesfull import Hmm the db might be a bit volatile to be in the VCS, considering it is regenerated easily, but ok :) Yes surelly this will get out of the vcs soon, but maybe someone is curiouse about structure or the info extracted from the repo so this was a qd to make it available for download, and ... what the hell !! I was proud of the success and want to show it :P -- mjt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [SHR] Setting regional codes
Sorry I missed the whole thread. Need to read it all in a free minute. Sorry if I spam you with irrelevant stuff. But my post to dial plans and number cannonification from last year might be interesting for you guys. http://www.mail-archive.com/de...@lists.openmoko.org/msg00073.html There was much discussion on that thread. But the conclusion is, if you know your dialplan (internationalPrefix, longDistancePrefix and countryCode) you can transform every local number into the full international form +xxyyz And from that, if you would like you can transform it back by applying your dial plan. But there is of course not much need for that on cell networks. Regards Tilman Niels Heyvaert wrote: + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally ignore it. Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its international prefix! If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Christ van Willegen -- Adding my observations to the mix: I haven't changed any of the phone settings and store all my phone numbers in the international format (with '+' sign). In the config file the default country code is set to 49, which is different from my actual country code. Incomming calls and messages map very nice to the contact names. I haven't received any international calls or text messages since I've started using SHR-U, but will keep an eye on it. Niels. _ Reageer op fotos van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:11 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone? In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to cover.jpg. That should display your cover art. And what would be the name for other mp3s? So lets suppose I have two mp3s: Lady GaGa - Poker Face.mp3 Elvis - Hound dog.mp3 What should I name the pictures for each track? cover1.jpg, cover2.jpg? Does not seem to a viable way to me;) Especially as we put the lyrics to [trackname].txt file. What is the fileformat of lyrics? It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone as a flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!! I have many problems with your lyrics implementation (minor issues mostly), I will write in the lyrics thread, as I have started it. I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently because of licensing issues the API has been stopped. Understood. I use lyricwiki.org too with a bit of google magic. Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. No advanced feature, like karaoke;) Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would kill the Neo. I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. I have plenty of ideas, I always have. I will write to the lyrics thread. Could you please wrap lines of textbox? Sure! Next release this weekend. I have more problems too, please read my upcoming post in the lyrics thread. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 04:21 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Marcel-2 wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Hi! I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on these two issues? Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit there. Which would be disappointing... I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget that points at the widget's center - intentionally? Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to switch it on or off. Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as fast as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my implementation? That'd be great... What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the TangoGPS geocaching extension). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: I have many problems with your lyrics implementation (minor issues mostly), I will write in the lyrics thread, as I have started it. Doh, my mistake. This is the lyrics thread Ok, current problems with lyrics implementation: 1. It seems you always brute force load the lyrics text to a elementary.Entry (textbox) widget. And it is SLOOOW. Especially when changing tracks. proposed solution: have two elementary.Entry widget, and load the next text of lyrics to the other Entry, which is hided. When changing track, you simple hide the current Entry, and show the other. In the background you reload the text into the hided Entry. Most of the time the next track can be determined easily. 2. Entry does not wrap lines. (I already written about it) 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text. Its rather confusing. So when the track changes and a new musics gets played i see on the display the same part of text just from the new lyrics (ie. from line 30-40) There should be an entry scrolling function, If you have difficulty to find it, just signal, and I try to digg it more. 4. The scrollbar is disabled. Would be nice to see visually where Im in the lyrics. Again, if you dont find it, I can search for you, I know paroli disable/enable it, just Mirko wrote it not me. I can digg it more if required. 5. Disable horizontal scrolling. (so no padding freely the text) It is doable, paroli do it too. In msgs app, Im sure. (again Mirko wrote it, so I need to find it in the code). If you dont find me, just signal, and I look it up. 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. So there is glitch. I see the newly generated list, and after a sec, it flash a bit, and scroll down where the current track is. I think you should simply hide the Elementary list, when you change between list, album art, lyrics. But Im just guessing here. 7. Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. No advanced feature, like karaoke;) Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would kill the Neo. I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. I have plenty of ideas, I always have. I will write to the lyrics thread. Ok here is my idea: You can use in elementary.Entry html formatted text. So some formatting is possible. Maybe elementary.Anchorview is required too for working. Once you can change the text to bold, you can mark the actual word/line to bold. It should be pretty fast. I think we should begin with marking the whole line, it is much easier. I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. There is karaoke format too, where it marks the current char. Dunno the exact format my past mp3 player supported it, but really badly. (it truncated lines, only displayed the first x lines, so was pretty much useless) What I propose is use the movie subtitle format. It is or .srt or .sub format. There is time based format and frame based format too. It looks like this: [00:00.00.-00:00.01.0200] This is the first line to display [00:00.02.-00:00.03.0300] This is the second line to display You can also use the mplayer own subtitle format, which works relative and not absolute timings: [(time to wait) (time to display)] line [1 2] It wait one sec after the precedent line, and displays 2 sec long [1 1] It wait one sec, and displays for one sec [4 2] wait 4 sec, and displays for 2 sec. You need a simple text processor, and mark the text in entry (but dont reload it each time!). I hope this helps. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
Marcel-2 wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 04:21 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Marcel-2 wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Hi! I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on these two issues? Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit there. Which would be disappointing... I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget that points at the widget's center - intentionally? Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to switch it on or off. Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as fast as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my implementation? That'd be great... What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the TangoGPS geocaching extension). Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some reasons: - the licensing issues you already mentioned - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user can see underlying streets -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3565865.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the TangoGPS geocaching extension). After several requests to l...@groundspeak.com and cont...@groundspeak.com I finally got permission to include the cache icons in my geocaching enhancements to TangoGPS, so that isn't an issue anymore - you just have to be persistent! Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone and symlinks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:17 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks. There was an issue with some filesystems some time ago. To debug that, I had disabled following symlinks and I found no solution to that problem. Let me recheck. You can also lookup the symlink, and if required ask for user confirmation. Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink? You can add the original directory directly to Intone for now. I'll try and fix this. Might take some time though - I'm a bit busy adding features to launcher. Have you tried the new release? Thanks. MAybe just me, but I dont find an overview where each added directory is listed. I always thought I can add only one directory (and its subdirectories). Is the gui support it? If so, something needs to do, as its hardly discoverable. I installed intone via opkg update; opkg install intone yesterday (in shr) Dunno if its the latest or not. But pulled the additional requisites automatically. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 05:11 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some reasons: - the licensing issues you already mentioned - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user can see underlying streets I admit I wondered which of both would draw faster, that's of course important. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, D. Fett fett_mokoker...@fragcom.de wrote: What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the TangoGPS geocaching extension). Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some reasons: - the licensing issues you already mentioned Can be resolved, see my other mail - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). I find it more intuitive to see the original pixmaps, and as they stay the same size (32x32px) as I zoom in to let's say level 20 when near a cache that corresponds to just a few centimeters on a map, thus much less than the general accuracy of the GPSr ... - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines Is that so? It's on my Todo-List to benchmark these different approaches, but not necessarily a major slow-down from my expererience. - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user can see underlying streets That is a valid point in my opinion, plus it offers several posiibilities (nice to see the names on the map, btw!) So to me there are no apparent technical difficulties to do so, but of course this depends entirely on the intended design of the SW, and the result is most likely merely a cosmetical one. Nice to see some alternatives, though, and the online features and the database browsing is a real plus here! Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Dnia 2009-09-02, śro o godzinie 13:57 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze: [cut] I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? OK, i think i get it now. On April 20th there was an announcement only? If so, i would change text on CU from: IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th to: On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet... -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:37 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: Location data doesn't work for me. Launcher currently subscribes to all cell broadcast channels. Some transmit info only on registration. Maybe a reboot will help. This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in the registration process with my provider? vendion wrote: I change %H:%M to %I:%M %p but when I close it reverts back to 24 hour format. Did you press the set time button? Can you try the new release and let me know? Using the binary you sent me in the other email, which by the way I have info I need to post back about it, it was able to work -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3564732.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:05 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I currently don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error. Can you try the attached binary and let me know if it works? There is an error with the sms app - something to do with the latest updates in opimd. But the rest should work. Thanks. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3559779/launcher launcher With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird every entry was attemped to be duplicated but for some reason every contact only has a first name on my SIM card they all have first and last names and for the phone number field it is ether blank or some weird encoding characters (Don't know if this is a problem with Launcher, my OPIMD database, how pisi copied over the contacts). I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the Reply button. Here is the console output I got, if you need more info let me know what you need and I'll be more than happy to provide: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ launcher restoring state version:32 scanning apps showing window starting dbus thread Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged dbus init over. getting opim data Getting SMS data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Getting Calls data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Getting Contacts data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating Calls Data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating SMS data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating Contacts Data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not feature add_message Segmentation fault -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3559779.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
[cut] I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. It was designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal load levels. http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. It was designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal load levels. http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone and symlinks
Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: You can also lookup the symlink, and if required ask for user confirmation. Well, I'll restore symlink support. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566554/intone intone Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Maybe just me, but I dont find an overview where each added directory is listed. You're right - the gui shows only the last added directory - but you can add as many as you like. I wonder how I can show all the added directories in the limited UI. Maybe open another window? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3566554.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
Hi, vendion wrote: This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in the registration process with my provider? No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the registration with your provider is complete. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3566567.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. It was designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal load levels. http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... _ Je hele online leven op één stek met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in the registration process with my provider? No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the registration with your provider is complete. Well there goes that idea, with the latest binary it still is not getting cell location and the phone and launcher has been rebooted several times. If it helps I am using T-Mobile in the USA, so I don't know if their network/towers support this, maybe someone who is in the same situation as I am can say otherwise? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
Hi, vendion wrote: With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db file? Thanks. vendion wrote: I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the Reply button. Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not feature add_message Segmentation fault You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd services. Please do that and retry. In fact try it with this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3566595.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:01:46PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... But aren't there vendor kernels for the moko already? -- mjt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:10 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db file? Thanks. vendion wrote: I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the Reply button. Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not feature add_message Segmentation fault You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd services. Please do that and retry. In fact try it with this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. Thanks. Thinks for the update, I will give this a try and report back my findings. I would like to thank you for all the hard work you put into your programs and they are always great, please keep up the great work! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone and symlinks
Well, I'll restore symlink support. Thank you!+ On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: You're right - the gui shows only the last added directory - but you can add as many as you like. I wonder how I can show all the added directories in the limited UI. Maybe open another window? Or make a list? Change the button to: Set songs dir - Set songs dir (4 in total) And when I click on it, I should have a list with currently added dir, and a browse button (what the set songs dir button do it now). Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:01:46PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... BEcause his precedent work was not merged for years? I would not expect to be merged either ... I dont think he would opposed the merge. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with intone
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6 albums) Well, that could be an issue with the song file. Can you fsck your filesystem containing the audio files. Robin Paulson wrote: so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical Yup. Thats another bug fixed - stopping the scan is a problem as of now. Will work on it later. Can you try the attached binary from the terminal? It will print out names of the files it is adding. Maybe that can give some clue as to why it hangs. Thanks http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566692/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/problems-with-intone-tp3559585p3566692.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in the registration process with my provider? No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the registration with your provider is complete. Well there goes that idea, with the latest binary it still is not getting cell location and the phone and launcher has been rebooted several times. If it helps I am using T-Mobile in the USA, so I don't know if their network/towers support this, maybe someone who is in the same situation as I am can say otherwise? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I also don't get cell broadcasts. I am using ATT in the USA. -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... BEcause his precedent work was not merged for years? I would not expect to be merged either ... I dont think he would opposed the merge. Hmm... In fact it's worse. He tried to get it merged but that did not work out (for a number of reasons, so it seems). But now he gave up the ambition and writes his code in such a way it will never get merged anyway. His own FAQ is very explicit about this: Why BFS? Because it's designed in such a way that mainline would never be interested in adopting it, which is how I like it. ... Are you looking at getting this into mainline? LOL. No really, are you? LOL. Really really, are you? No. ... _ Reageer op foto’s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions
another little idea for this; if the user said in (future) options, that he want to let the sms be on sim, so may it's nice if he could then also select delete last sms on simcard when sim-storage full and may a number for how much sms should be deleted. and as alternative, if he didn't want to delete them, the sms on simcard could be synced for the qtmoko-db, as example on start and if the storage is full, it just saved the sms to the qtmoko-db and doesn't touch the sim. i will do that into the wiki later :) Am Dienstag, 1. September 2009 05.50:18 schrieb Radek Polak: Vinzenz Hersche wrote: first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing sim-entrys? i must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the contactname/hp-contacts on my sim-card. No idea here, i would have to check sources... second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something. Yes. Maybe it could be made optional. This is the commit and the place where it could be changed: http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/d9eb3b8d2e4b4c4e339c6249c192e1cde0bc dcc9 Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
Hi, Let me first thank you for taking the time to suggest improvements to this part of intone. I was getting the feeling that maybe people hardly used these features - particularly the lyrics view. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: So lets suppose I have two mp3s: Lady GaGa - Poker Face.mp3 Elvis - Hound dog.mp3 Well, that is a limitation. I was working on the concept that the songs would be organised in directories by album - so the cover art would remain the same for all songs in a directory. For a directory filled with mixed songs - I will need to get the album name from the tags (if the file is tagged) and then look for the album art in some predefined directory based on the tag. Seemed like a lot of work to do at that time :-) I'll try and do something like the above when I find some free time. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: 1. It seems you always brute force load the lyrics text to a elementary.Entry (textbox) widget. And it is SLOOOW. Especially when changing tracks. 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If you find a better way - do let me know. I can read the next file into a large buffer and copy from there on song change. But that might play up with the memory. I'll try that and see how it goes. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: 2. Entry does not wrap lines 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text 4. The scrollbar is disabled 5. Disable horizontal scrolling Done. Try the attached binary below. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: 7. ...(about the karaoke support)... Well, I like the idea and am willing to implement it. Only - are there lyrics files available in the subtitle formats? And which format do I support? I can use either the .srt/.sub/mplayer formats. Thanks for the suggestions and ideas though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3567145.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
Hi, Forgot to attach the binary. Here it is. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3567159/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3567159.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
Hi, It could be that some providers may not be broadcasting anything at all. I can confirm that I am getting broadcast on channel 50 in India and Leonti reports getting them too. Can you try the attached binary? It will show you channel numbers for any broadcasts and let you select the channels to subscribe to. Initially the subscribed channels are set to 'all' in configure. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3567248/launcher launcher Can you confirm that you get cell info messages in a nokia phone with the same SIM? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3567248.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone and symlinks
Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Thank you!+ Already done in the binary posted on the other list. Can you post back after trying? Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Or make a list? Change the button to: Set songs dir - Set songs dir (4 in total) And when I click on it, I should have a list with currently added dir, and a browse button (what the set songs dir button do it now). I assume you mean add a list with all the added directories? Ok. I'll try that out. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3567362.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party
2009/9/1 Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de Am Dienstag 01 September 2009 22:33:53 schrieb Fox Mulder: Kahless wrote: hi all, I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small bug fix party? I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10µF cap to the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW. Ciao, Rainer I would join the bug fix party, i'm living near Koblenz, so for me it's no difference between Frankfurt and NRW. If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
Hi, I used to use the -ck patches for my kernels while they were around and they were always more responsive on my desktop than the standard kernels. If this makes the FR more responsive - its would be worthwhile trying - just to see if it makes any difference at all. Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Interesting-Linux-development-for-lower-resources-machines-from-Con-Kolivas-tp3566462p3567588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party
If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. Michal me too? bernhard (austria) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to start? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Let me first thank you for taking the time to suggest improvements to this part of intone. I was getting the feeling that maybe people hardly used these features - particularly the lyrics view. No problem. I was always dreaming of a device what can do proper lyrics and a dictionary app. So the lyrics is there I only need to write a dict app;-) Well, that is a limitation. I was working on the concept that the songs would be organised in directories by album - so the cover art would remain the same for all songs in a directory. I asked you some time back (about a month) how to do flashcard type reading. It was suggested that I should put a .jpg file for the musics In that usecase (when I have 100-200 .mp3s) its really cumbersome to put each file its own directory. For a directory filled with mixed songs - I will need to get the album name from the tags (if the file is tagged) and then look for the album art in some predefined directory based on the tag. Seemed like a lot of work to do at that time :-) No, its too complicated. I would like to see an implementation like this: Search for a .jpg identical to the filename. If it fails search for cover.jpg, if it fails display the default head icon. It is dead simple and would cover all usecases. If somebody want an album support, then put the effort and separate his mp3 files into different dir. I'll try and do something like the above when I find some free time. Please implement the more simple approach. That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If you find a better way - do let me know. I can read the next file into a large buffer and copy from there on song change. But that might play up with the memory. I'll try that and see how it goes. Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in layers on evas canvas. By default every elementary widget is placed to layer 0. You only need to place the same sized entry widget on top of the existing one. And show/hide only means you manipulate the layering. In python it would something like this: en = elementary.Entry(win) en2 = elementary.Entry(win) layer = en.layer_get() layer2 = en.layer_get() #place en2 on top of en: en2.layer_set(1) en.layer_set(0) #place en on top of en2: en2.layer_set(0) en.layer_set(1) To make a second textbox look like the first one, you should set its properties (x,y, width, height) the same what the other Entry has. Functions: x,y = en.pos_get() en2.pos_set(x,y) width, height = en.size_get() en2.size_set(width, height) Hope it helps something. 2. Entry does not wrap lines 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text 4. The scrollbar is disabled 5. Disable horizontal scrolling Done. Try the attached binary below. Thank you! I will try it this evening. Well, I like the idea and am willing to implement it. Only - are there lyrics files available in the subtitle formats? And which format do I support? I can use either the .srt/.sub/mplayer formats. Thanks for the suggestions and ideas though. To say the true, we should look for subtitle for a release, because it can has offset, or wrong framerate. So I think most of the times (random music with third party subtitle file) we want to adjust the subtitle file anyway. So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it. You display one line at a time, and when I tap on the screen, it autofills the timing in the file. It would work most of the time. For format selection: No matter what you choose (.srt/.sub/mplayer), because we can convert them to each other. If I were you I would prefer .srt file format, because it is time based (and not frame based). For additional info please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubRip With this my needs would suffice. However I dont know if it would be enough to proper karaoke support. For karaoke we need to highlight *part of the actual word*, ie. some chars from the line. Yes we can implement it via some custom way (using semi html markup and display the same line many times highlighting other part of the line). But maybe a proper karaoke fileformat would be needed. I think the best would be matroska fileformat: http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/subtitles/ssa.html It can do many advanced thing, including highlight the part of the word. But it is a *HUGE* work, so I think we should implement subrip first, and gather some experience, and tackle the more advanced usecase (ie. karaoke) next. Many thanks for your positive comments by the way! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
Michael Tansella schrieb: Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to i recommend you to use openvpn. i am doing this on my fr with no problems at all. -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in layers on evas canvas. ... Hope it helps something. If you have troubles, I can cook up a simple elementary python app for demoing it. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it. You display one line at a time, and when I tap on the screen, it autofills the timing in the file. It would work most of the time. If you like this idea, I have more to share. As I have done many subtitle editing in the past using mplayer (mpsub format) and a simple text editor, I have a pretty good workflow what could be implemented. Rule of thumb: The minimal interval is 100ms (ie. 0.1s), if you work with more precise timings, nobody will notice it. 1. stage: Rough timing We just copypaste the lyrics to a .txt file and have the .mp3 file. Workflow: Intone displays each line one by one. There is a button, when we push it, it saves the timing with the line. There is an another (non-obligatory) button to mark the time when the subtitle needs to be hided. If we dont push it, it will hide the current line 100 ms before the next line appears. 2. stage: fine tuning We want to finetune the displaying. So some ms on and of. Workflow: Intone displays each line one by one. There is two buttons: +100ms, -100ms When we here the sound the the line is not displayed in synchrone we adjust it via this button. Also forward 2sec reverse 2sec button would be helpful. (to hear the line repeatably). With the above worklow we could adjust the subtitle to a music within 10 min I think. And when you are on a party, you can do it without a computer+! So would be rather excellent There is an another (insane) idea: I just played with nintendo ds for 10-20 min. And the music player is awesome what it has. You can apply effects to the music, and it distorts the sounds. There is one effect called karaoke, which try to silent the voice in the music. So would be excellent for adhoc karaoke plaing. No need to find the special version of the music file, which was recorded without the singer voice. Dunno how it could be implemented at all, just an idea. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Niels Heyvaertnielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: Because it's designed in such a way that mainline would never be interested in adopting it, which is how I like it. I think in Solaris the sheduler are pluggable. Ie, it can be swapped. In linux its hardwired, and there is no will to change it. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
That's a simple/client server communication ...You will just have to open a port on the server side nat to route it to your server ( even if you use openvpn, ssh, ... you'll have to do it ) A second solution, if you can't translate a port in the nat is using a third computer reachable from anywhere wich organise the transfer, both freerunner connect at this third machine as client and the machine make the transmition. Protocol is at you convenience, making a client/server in Qt4 isn't difficult and is well documented ( if you need help, you can contact me ) 2009/9/2 Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de Michael Tansella schrieb: Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to i recommend you to use openvpn. i am doing this on my fr with no problems at all. -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Qalee website : http://www.qalee.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nokia N900
Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it. If you don't plan to use anything else than what's already provided, then any phone will do. If you want, for instance, to use Debian on this particular computer we call a phone then anything but an openmoko is worthless. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Michael Tansellamichael-tanse...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to start? If you should rely on a public ip address where the two phones will connect, for my personal tasks I use my DSL dynamic ip and dyndns + openvpn. If you do not have one, you should use some trick to encapsulate your protocol in some way, limited only by fantasy. You may use an IRC channel, some sort of p2p network, a shared email account, a webform on public php hosting site, and so on! Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this? A lesson in colours... http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/ Here is a ready-made .edc file just about your question: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Embryo/Examples/RandomColor Color classes can be changed from C/python program too, not necessary to use embryo. But its more elegant;) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
If so, i would change text on CU from: IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th to: On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet... I copied your text and have updated the text :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: a webform on public php hosting site, and so on! That is the easiest. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Let me know if you need any help. I think right now we have to figure out how to get FRs here. As of now, Chaitanya is in Payyannur(Kerala) and it might not be easy for him to send in his FR. He said that he would be here (Delhi) around Diwali, so that might be a good time to have the buzz fix party (@chaitanya: can you be elaborate about the dates, as I was planning to go to my place during diwali :(. For the bangalore guys, Alok had researched quite a bit about how to send in the phones (http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg51201.html). I guess Shashank would like to send in the phone alongwith Alok. @Ganesh: If your friend can do the buzz fix, then #1024 would be trivial for him and I myself am not sure about the bass fix. The mail thread would keep all of updated anyways. BTW, I guess Bangalore guys would need to get in touch with Zoheb to get the invoice and stuff that Shashank had mentioned. @Rakshat: Does Zoheb follow this list or should we CC him explicitly when some relevant mail/decision is sent/reached? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: In that usecase (when I have 100-200 .mp3s) its really cumbersome to put each file its own directory. Thats true - though a shell script might help. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: No, its too complicated. I would like to see an implementation like this: Search for a .jpg identical to the filename. If it fails search for cover.jpg, if it fails display the default head icon. Done. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in layers on evas canvas. By default every elementary widget is placed to layer 0. You only need to place the same sized entry widget on top of the existing one. And show/hide only means you manipulate the layering. cut Yup. That certainly does. Let me experiment a bit before I implement something. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it... cut Ok. This a reasonable amount of work - so let me find some time before I start on this. And I will need to read up on the formats too. Thanks for all the inputs. Particularly, the layers thingy. I was always a little unsure about that. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3568093.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
Dnia 2 września 2009 17:50 Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de napisał(a): Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to start? Greets Michael You could prepare www site with restricted area just for your data or just remote database :) to connect to ;) I think it could be even nopaste/paste-bin site if data are not valuable ;) Bartek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
Hi, Well, it seems like the ipk installed from shr repos has 2 errors that I can see. 1. It does not pull in the no-album-art.jpg file into /usr/share/intone/ directory. The jpg file is in the resources folder on the svn. 2. There is a directory called glade in /usr/share/intone/. That's not required and dates back from when Intone started off being a GTK app. Hopefully, this should attract the attention of the repo maintainer. Or maybe someone can tell me who to contact. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3568135.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO can't answer incoming call
Hi, There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 in 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps ringing. I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it keeps vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has ever seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:10 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, vendion wrote: With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db file? Thanks. vendion wrote: I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the Reply button. Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not feature add_message Segmentation fault You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd services. Please do that and retry. In fact try it with this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3566595.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm also getting some weird behavior with the binary you listed above. 1.) Whenever I attempt to send an SMS, Launcher segfaults. Running from the command line, I don't get any info when it actually segfaults...just a segfault. 2.) All of the calls in the call log are shown twice with the same timestamp 3.) I still dont get any cell broadcast info (but this isnt a big deal to me. I assume the towers here just don't broadcast anything of interest) 4.) When jumping in the contacts list, Launcher seems to jump to the wrong location. When I click a letter it jumps to a completely different area in the list of contacts. Suggestion: 1.) Scrolling through the contact list is very hard. This would be alleviated alot by not allowing the user to click on the contact. (Like in the default SHR-contacts) Just have a separate button for opening up the options for the selected contact. I keep opening up contacts that I dont want to while scrolling. Also possibly take out the Head picture on each contact? That might also improve scrolling. 2.) When creating a message, have the place where text is going to be input already selected. When trying to select the text box to type, it is very close to the send button and hard to click. Thanks for all the hard work c_c! -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
On 9/2/09, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Christ van Willegencvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) It would also help if I'd read everything... since you've got no keyboard and no SSH, this is going to be difficult... Why not SSH? In every normal distro it's supported by default! -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes
On 9/2/09, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... What do you mean? Current implementation is full and with correct configuration supports every kind of number format (maybe except numbers with pauses and waits to send DTMF when call establishes, but i don't think support of that is necessary for contact resolving :P) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V8
Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote: Thats right ! sorry it's /etc/init.d/qpe ;) Bartek Here's the contents of /etc/init.d/qpe #!/bin/sh echo '1' /proc/sys/kernel/printk rm -rf /var/run/ppp mkdir /var/run/ppp mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env atd /var/spool/at qx_helper qpe 21 | logger -t 'Qtopia' 2nd reboot enabled the Bluetooth BTW. I'll test, but does this allow audio over GSM? Other problems / question / comments: * Speakerphone does not work (or maybe it's too silent?) * I like the quick contacts search thingy, but the side bar is too narrow. * Pictures - can't browse for picture directories or individual pics for Homescreen (used to be able to do this) * Calendar - wishing for a week view, and eventually some kind of sync with (everything?) * Keyboard - I'm not sure I like the keyboard replacement - but maybe I just need to get used to it Anyway, this feels much better than Qtopia or QTExtended ever did. Plus we get X! Russell Dwiggins -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V8-tp3530825p3568511.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
On 9/2/09, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti Leonti On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg t.landsp...@8motions.com wrote: Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a CVS uploader to import bulk CSV data files mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have any OpenMoko phone to test it. I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate them. Regards, 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from other projects. AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each other) on collecting cells as OpenBmapOpenCellID - well, you just collect the cells. AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to find the position of a phone, right? 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of Open Source. Can't really see it here. r When I tried Cellhunter (in early stage of its development), it didn't feel so bullet-proof and stable, and I noticed I was collecting points for invalid data which happened sometimes. And when moving, clicking update constanly was giving me always 1 point more, and offline mode wasn't so usable, so I had to colllect cells during GPRS connection, which wasn't so stable these days. Maybe it changed now (well, i would be supriced if it didn't :P), but openBmap client, data and website just feel better, and most of important FSO and SHR devs are using openBmap to collect cells - that's good enough recomendation to me ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On 9/2/09, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If you find a better way - do let me know. Just use elementary Pager! It's designed for things like that ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)
On 9/1/09, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding overlay should work just like changing theme. Is it not slower than replacing the default theme? (ie. it displays the default theme elements, and this theme the top of it). Just guessing here Laszlo I don't think so, as that's exactly what elementary does when normal theming - it uses selected theme, but when something isn't in selected theme - it fallbacks to default. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO can't answer incoming call
On 9/2/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 in 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps ringing. I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it keeps vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has ever seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. Michal Are you using fsousaged instead of ousaged? -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Done. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone What is the proper name of the file? opkg returns with this error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install intone-20090902.opk opkg: invalid magic Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO can't answer incoming call
2009/9/2 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com On 9/2/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 in 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps ringing. I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it keeps vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has ever seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. Michal Are you using fsousaged instead of ousaged? ps -A suggests I'm using fsousaged. I've never changed any settings so it's the default I guess. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Done. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone What is the proper name of the file? opkg returns with this error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install intone-20090902.opk opkg: invalid magic r...@om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe intone Is it correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux
D. Fett wrote: Notify the community mailing list. (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make your geocaching life easier: - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints images on your freerunner - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and tangogps map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual input more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html Testing the latest version 0.1.2: - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not shown on the map. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server
So,. everything should be fine now, please visit http://cellhunter.omoco.de for the new version and report any bugs you find. Greetings, Sebastian ps: no deb package yet but will come ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
Thank you all!!! I see there are many possibilities. I'll try it with an OpenVPN Server where the 2 Clients connect to. I Hope latency will be small enough. All the best Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reliably connect tcp between to NATed hosts (was: Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook)
Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de writes: How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from You can consider using miredo techonology. That way you don't have to maintain a special publically accessible server yourself. It basically gives you dynamic ipv6 address you can reach from anywhere. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe intone Is it correct? Sure not. As ipk files are packed with 'ar' just like .deb files do, I can extract them using: ar x packagename.ipk However ar command on the above links fail. And I tried another nabble link, and it failed too. Could you please upload the package to a *reliable* webpage? I usually use googlepages.com, however they dont accept new subscription anymore. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party
Possibly interested too.. / Finland.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe intone Is it correct? Doh! You are just uploading the 'intone' binary... You should warn about it at least ... r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg files intone Package intone (0.66+svnr53-r0) is installed on root and has the following files: /usr/share/intone/no-shuffle.png /usr/share/intone/no-random.png /usr/share/icons/intone.png /usr/share/intone/no-bluetooth.png /usr/share/intone/user-home.png /usr/share/intone/shuffle.png /usr/share/intone/settings.png /usr/share/intone/pause.png /usr/share/intone/seek-back.png /usr/share/intone/lyrics_view.png /usr/share/intone/record.png /usr/share/intone/album.png /usr/share/intone/prev.png /usr/share/intone/song.png /usr/share/intone/random.png /usr/share/intone/next.png /usr/bin/intone /usr/share/applications/intone.desktop /usr/share/intone/album_view.png /usr/share/intone/generic.png /usr/share/intone/playlist.png /usr/share/intone/repeat.png /usr/share/intone/playlist_view.png /usr/share/intone/play.png /usr/share/intone/glade/intone.glade /usr/share/intone/no-repeat.png /usr/share/intone/folder.png /usr/share/intone/seek-fwd.png /usr/share/intone/bluetooth.png But anyway, thank you very much! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells (with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png explained here: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1orderby=beginat= 7milj (don't know where I got it from.. sorry for misleading..) is the number of ALL submits but to me it looks like that the no of cells is around 141371 (NCG) + 7572 (OCnG) = 148 943 cells. The rest are just more gps information for a single cell. Am I wrong? So to recap: OpenBMap: 479740 cells (of which 82963 are 'trusted') OpenCellID: 433574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)
Again , and clarifiacation: ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) OpenCellID: 433 574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells OpenBMap: 82 963 cells (sorry for talking the risk of being the 'bad' guy agin, but at the end that's a little bit annoying) I would be fine also to reintegrate cells from CellsHunter into OpenCellID too 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells (with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png explained here: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1orderby=beginat= 7milj (don't know where I got it from.. sorry for misleading..) is the number of ALL submits but to me it looks like that the no of cells is around 141371 (NCG) + 7572 (OCnG) = 148 943 cells. The rest are just more gps information for a single cell. Am I wrong? So to recap: OpenBMap: 479740 cells (of which 82963 are 'trusted') OpenCellID: 433574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community