Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Mickael Labrousse


Risto H. Kurppa a écrit :
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
   
No
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
   
No, HTC G1
 What distribution you run most of the time?

   
In my job on FR : an old shr-testing
In my private life : recently switch to Hackable1:rev5 chuck (loving 
gnome :d)
 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

   
Missing calls, Buzz issue (now fixed), EDGE/3G access, battery life and 
missing integrated hardware keyboard (loving my g1 :d)

 Thank you :)


   
You're welcome :)
 r

   

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes.

 What distribution you run most of the time?

Debian.

Quite happy nowadays to about everything except lack of 3G data and
well, also the GPRS hickups that need some care not to bump into when
using Neo's connection from a laptop. Replaced midori with woosh which
starts up very fast (compared to midori). It would need packaging,
though...

One more thing is that some day I should try my luck with navit +
speech again. I'm quite fine with TangoGPS for my needs, but navit
would make it a real navigator.

-Timo

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Re: Tim's brilliant hack for #WikiReader

2009-12-30 Thread Ganesh Krishna
Brilliant! I love it. Thank you.
-GK

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org wrote:

 The email below was rejected because the attachment was too large.
 Please read on, and find the patched kernel here:

 http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/kernel.elf.bordershttp://www.ludism.org/%7Erwhe/kernel.elf.borders

 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org wrote:
  Well, I bit the bullet and installed a WikiReader build environment
  and compiled the latest kernel. Then I applied Tim's patch and
  recompiled and installed the kernel.
 
  It's brilliant! I'm attaching it to this message. Just rename it to
  kernel.elf, save it to your SD card, and pop it back in. Enjoy! (Back
  up your old kernel first.)
 
  Thanks, Tim!
 
  As a bonus, the latest build also seems to improve touch screen
  responsiveness for hyperlinks.
 
  Ron Hale-Evans
 
  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org
 wrote:
  Tim,
 
  This sounds awesome! I hope it becomes standard.
 
  Could you please attach a complete kernel for those of us who are too
  lazy to set up a toolchain right now? :)
 
  Happy holidays and thanks,
 
  Ron H-E
 
  On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Tim Besard tim.bes...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Seems like patch didn't get through, reposting bzipped.
 
  -Tim
 
  Op woensdag 16-12-2009 om 22:28 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tim
  Besard:
  Hi all,
 
  Attached to this mail is a small patch I wrote a while ago,
 introducing
  border interactions. It quite simply hacks in a 15px magical border
  which when tapped induces certain actions:
* upper border: page up;
* lower border: page down;
* left border: history back;
* right border: history forward.
 
  I've added page up  down because it reads far faster and scrolling
  (at least on my wikireader) turned out to be quite unreadable. History
  back and forward are handy shortcuts while clicking through links of
 an
  article.
 
  -Tim
 
 
 
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 22:30 +0200 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
 What distribution you run most of the time?
shr-t

bernhard


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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Ales Horak
Hi Risto,

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

I was using it as my primary phone for more than 1 year.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

the same as above.

 What distribution you run most of the time?

first Om2007, Om2008, then SHR testing

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

two weeks ago I switched to nokia n900 and I like its
responsiveness :-)

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[Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image

2009-12-30 Thread ghislain

http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded  has created a
new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it
can be dowloaded here:  http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22
Android-Cupcake-V22 . 
Just follow the instructions of the readme.txt contained in the zip-file.

Regards,
Ghislain van der Steen
http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend  -  http://www.openmobile.nl openmobile.nl 
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread David Ford
1) not any more
2) no
3) gentoo
4) opkg nightmares, very slow development, instability of existing core
software and i have no time to work on it.  using a blackberry.  it just
works.

On 12/29/2009 03:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 What distribution you run most of the time?

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


 Thank you :)


 r
   


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Christian Rüb
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

not yet

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

Have not switched over to FR yet, but still using my 9y old Nokia as PIM is not 
sufficient on FR yet.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread PaulTT
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?
om2008.12+fdom with qtopia and lot of changes and customizations ;)

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Joerg Eesmann
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U, but will try QTMoko also

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

Sound during calling is still an issue for me. Addressee of my calls are
still complaining, even after buzz fix...

 Thank you :)

Thank You!


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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Jakob
On 12/29/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
 What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U
 Thank you :)
You're welcome

Jake

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[SHR] QVGA and WSOD

2009-12-30 Thread Ole Kliemann
Trying to switch resolution to 240x320 on shr-unstable or shr-testing I
get the following problem.

/etc/fb.modes is:
mode 240x320
geometry 240 420 240 320 16
timings 10 8 88 2 2 8 2
accel false
endmode

With X running I do:
# xrandr -s 240x320
# fbset 240x320

Now two things can happen.

1) the display works ok, just with some horizontal stripes.
2) the display fades to all white and stays like that.

Case 2) can be easily produced by just calling
# fbset 240x320
a second time, after the first call produced result 1). This almost
always works.

The screen can be all white after suspend/resume too. Sometime an all
white screen can be fixed by suspend/resume. But the timings are back to
previous state then and a call to fbset is inevitable. This mostly
results in 2) again.

When suspending/resuming sometimes there was the console visible before
X got back. There was a repeated message, I think it was
glamofb cmd_queue never got empty


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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-12-30 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Christian,

i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to
do it.
I did download your source, but how do i build it?
( real noob here...)
Could you explain how to build it from source?
I am used to ./configure, make, make install

Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit?
i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint
2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Kind regards,
Ed

Christian Rüb wrote:
 I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus 
 (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map.
 package [1]
 source [2]
 screenshot [3]

 How to use it:
 create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the file 
 is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where qnavitctl 
 is started this file is automatically loaded.

 Why a program that does what Navit already can do?
  - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit
  - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise route 
 calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I can have 
 my navit window and another window to set next destination easily
  - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for other 
 apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and start 
 navigation in navit through a button (e.g. you receive a text containing 
 coordinates, press take me there and the coordinates are send as 
 destination to navit via dbus)
  - I am still learning Qt :)

 That's all

 [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
 [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary
 [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qnavitctl.png

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Still yes.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes.

 What distribution you run most of the time?

Debian unstable.

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have
managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that
they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified
so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why
this behavior seems to change.

Current solution is just to make sure that the amplification is so low
that no distortion happens and then use a quick icewm menu entry to up
the volume if other side seems to suffer from the can't hear you very
loudly issue.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Atilla Filiz
No and no. Primarily call quality was never satifying, mostly for the other
side. Echo is too annoying. Also phone is unreliable because of WSOD. I use
my FR as my hacking toy.My primary distro is H:1

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi
 wrote:

 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes:
  Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

 Still yes.

  Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 Yes.

  What distribution you run most of the time?

 Debian unstable.

  If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
  over to, and why?

 The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have
 managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that
 they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified
 so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why
 this behavior seems to change.

 Current solution is just to make sure that the amplification is so low
 that no distortion happens and then use a quick icewm menu entry to up
 the volume if other side seems to suffer from the can't hear you very
 loudly issue.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Bellembois
1. not yet
2. not yet
3. QTMoko / H1

I currently use a basic Nokia Phone. I am waiting for a decent agenda 
synchronisation system to use the FR as a daily phone.

Regards,

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

No

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes.

 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-u

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

Using my old Nokia, waiting for better PIM on FR.


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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-12-30 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi Ed,

to build it on your PC, you need to have qmake (from Qt) installed.
Then simply run
#qmake
(the name may differ, liket qmake-qt4 or something)
This will create your Makefile, then simply run
#make
and you are done, you will get one binary called qnavitcl - that's it.

If you want to build for your Openmoko phone, use my bitbake recipe here 
(simply copy to your OE tree) and it will build the package for you.

If you want a prebuilt binary - get it from here [1] (you'll also get 
dependencies from there). It is built for SHR-U.

Have you enabled dbus in navit.xml? This is essential.

Use dbus-send to get a navit instance and then you can control it through the 
path you get back. Have a look at [2] how I did it in Qt:
registerNavitInstance() and setCenter() will be of most interest for you.

If you use dbus-send, you also need to print the replies - otherwise you cannot 
use them ;-) - see man page for futher details

BUT - with current version of navit I could not get it to work as the dbus 
interface seems to have changed - iter does not exist anymore and I have not 
found a way yet to get an instance and set destination :(

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/
[2] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=blob;f=src/mainwindow.cpp;h=a7b076db790971245b2d4c6769f13ba92b194b3e;hb=a3d4e3ea1506321d09a735e69810e3be01ccc860

 Hi Christian,
 
 i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to
 do it.
 I did download your source, but how do i build it?
 ( real noob here...)
 Could you explain how to build it from source?
 I am used to ./configure, make, make install
 
 Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit?
 i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint
 2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1.
 
 Thanks a lot in advance.
 
 Kind regards,
 Ed
 
 Christian Rüb wrote:
  I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus 
  (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map.
  package [1]
  source [2]
  screenshot [3]
 
  How to use it:
  create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the file 
  is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where qnavitctl 
  is started this file is automatically loaded.
 
  Why a program that does what Navit already can do?
   - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit
   - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise route 
  calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I can 
  have my navit window and another window to set next destination easily
   - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for 
  other apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and start 
  navigation in navit through a button (e.g. you receive a text containing 
  coordinates, press take me there and the coordinates are send as 
  destination to navit via dbus)
   - I am still learning Qt :)
 
  That's all
 
  [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
  [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary
  [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qnavitctl.png
 
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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-12-30 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Christian,

Thanks a lot for your explanation!
I think i had the same problem you had, i can't set a destination with
the current version of navit.
(Dbus is enabled)
So, i will ask the people from the navit team on how to use dbus with
the current version.

Thanks again and happy new year everybody.
Kind regards,

Ed

Christian Rüb wrote:
 Hi Ed,

 to build it on your PC, you need to have qmake (from Qt) installed.
 Then simply run
 #qmake
 (the name may differ, liket qmake-qt4 or something)
 This will create your Makefile, then simply run
 #make
 and you are done, you will get one binary called qnavitcl - that's it.

 If you want to build for your Openmoko phone, use my bitbake recipe here 
 (simply copy to your OE tree) and it will build the package for you.

 If you want a prebuilt binary - get it from here [1] (you'll also get 
 dependencies from there). It is built for SHR-U.

 Have you enabled dbus in navit.xml? This is essential.

 Use dbus-send to get a navit instance and then you can control it through the 
 path you get back. Have a look at [2] how I did it in Qt:
 registerNavitInstance() and setCenter() will be of most interest for you.

 If you use dbus-send, you also need to print the replies - otherwise you 
 cannot use them ;-) - see man page for futher details

 BUT - with current version of navit I could not get it to work as the dbus 
 interface seems to have changed - iter does not exist anymore and I have 
 not found a way yet to get an instance and set destination :(

 Cheers,
  Christian

 [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/
 [2] 
 http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=blob;f=src/mainwindow.cpp;h=a7b076db790971245b2d4c6769f13ba92b194b3e;hb=a3d4e3ea1506321d09a735e69810e3be01ccc860

   
 Hi Christian,

 i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to
 do it.
 I did download your source, but how do i build it?
 ( real noob here...)
 Could you explain how to build it from source?
 I am used to ./configure, make, make install

 Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit?
 i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint
 2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1.

 Thanks a lot in advance.

 Kind regards,
 Ed

 Christian Rüb wrote:
 
 I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus 
 (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map.
 package [1]
 source [2]
 screenshot [3]

 How to use it:
 create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the file 
 is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where qnavitctl 
 is started this file is automatically loaded.

 Why a program that does what Navit already can do?
  - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit
  - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise route 
 calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I can 
 have my navit window and another window to set next destination easily
  - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for 
 other apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and start 
 navigation in navit through a button (e.g. you receive a text containing 
 coordinates, press take me there and the coordinates are send as 
 destination to navit via dbus)
  - I am still learning Qt :)

 That's all

 [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
 [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary
 [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qnavitctl.png

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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-12-30 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi Ed,

already posted on navit user ML about this - as the wiki still tells the old 
way:
http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Dbus

When I know how to do it, I will update qnavitctl.

Cheers,
 Christian

 Hi Christian,
 
 Thanks a lot for your explanation!
 I think i had the same problem you had, i can't set a destination with
 the current version of navit.
 (Dbus is enabled)
 So, i will ask the people from the navit team on how to use dbus with
 the current version.
 
 Thanks again and happy new year everybody.
 Kind regards,
 
 Ed
 
 Christian Rüb wrote:
  Hi Ed,
 
  to build it on your PC, you need to have qmake (from Qt) installed.
  Then simply run
  #qmake
  (the name may differ, liket qmake-qt4 or something)
  This will create your Makefile, then simply run
  #make
  and you are done, you will get one binary called qnavitcl - that's it.
 
  If you want to build for your Openmoko phone, use my bitbake recipe here 
  (simply copy to your OE tree) and it will build the package for you.
 
  If you want a prebuilt binary - get it from here [1] (you'll also get 
  dependencies from there). It is built for SHR-U.
 
  Have you enabled dbus in navit.xml? This is essential.
 
  Use dbus-send to get a navit instance and then you can control it through 
  the path you get back. Have a look at [2] how I did it in Qt:
  registerNavitInstance() and setCenter() will be of most interest for you.
 
  If you use dbus-send, you also need to print the replies - otherwise you 
  cannot use them ;-) - see man page for futher details
 
  BUT - with current version of navit I could not get it to work as the dbus 
  interface seems to have changed - iter does not exist anymore and I have 
  not found a way yet to get an instance and set destination :(
 
  Cheers,
   Christian
 
  [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/
  [2] 
  http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=blob;f=src/mainwindow.cpp;h=a7b076db790971245b2d4c6769f13ba92b194b3e;hb=a3d4e3ea1506321d09a735e69810e3be01ccc860
 

  Hi Christian,
 
  i am trying to use navit and dbus, but so far i haven't find out how to
  do it.
  I did download your source, but how do i build it?
  ( real noob here...)
  Could you explain how to build it from source?
  I am used to ./configure, make, make install
 
  Can you give an example of dbus-send to set a destination in navit?
  i want, like you, to have a list of waypoints and i want to set waypoint
  2 as destination, as soon as i am near waypoint 1.
 
  Thanks a lot in advance.
 
  Kind regards,
  Ed
 
  Christian Rüb wrote:
  
  I wrote a little Qt app to send destination or position to Navit via dbus 
  (needs to be activated in navit.xml first) or center the map.
  package [1]
  source [2]
  screenshot [3]
 
  How to use it:
  create a file with name;lat;lon per line and start the program. If the 
  file is named bookmarks.csv and placed in $HOME or the directory where 
  qnavitctl is started this file is automatically loaded.
 
  Why a program that does what Navit already can do?
   - for me it is a quick fix for #352 in navit
   - for my 1k+ trip I have to prepare intermdeiate stops as otherwise 
  route calculation would take very long (if it would succeed at all), so I 
  can have my navit window and another window to set next destination easily
   - it is an example how to talk to navit via dbus and could be used for 
  other apps (e.g. litephone) to get coordinates (e.g. from opimd) and 
  start navigation in navit through a button (e.g. you receive a text 
  containing coordinates, press take me there and the coordinates are 
  send as destination to navit via dbus)
   - I am still learning Qt :)
 
  That's all
 
  [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
  [2] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qnavitctl;a=summary
  [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qnavitctl.png
 
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Re: More Questions about Encrypting, Internet Access and Games

2009-12-30 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 10:13 +0100, Rashid wrote:
 Hi thank you for you answers. 
 
 May I ask some more questions:
 
 Encryption:
 
 Is there an easy way to encrypt the whole disk (except /boot)? 
 Like in Ubuntu Alternate the install option install to encrypted
 LVM?
 Or will you have to do it manualy by many complicated console
 commands?
Maybe with debian it could be easier
 Internet: 
 
 Can I use EDGE with the Freerunner? 
 What is the maximum upload and download the Freerunner can use?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS
Maybe with an external USB EDGE adapter,else you won't have EDGE speed
 
 Games:
 
 Can you just compile the games on your open moko
Remember that the openmoko is slow and has 128M of ram...so not a very
good idea...
I bet debian uses qemu for compiling but I'm not sure...
else you have openembedded...
for what openembedded is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openembedded

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread giacomo giotti mariani
yes
yes
qtmoko/shr

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On 12/29/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 What distribution you run most of the time?

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


 Thank you :)
Yes
Yes
SHR-U/playing with Gentoo

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[dbus] usage for SetBrightness

2009-12-30 Thread jeremy jozwik
list, im am trying to set the phones brightness/suspend on off/dim on
off via the terminal.

ive gotten so far as this page:
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Display.html;hb=HEAD#SetBrightness
which gives the command:
SetBrightness
and have attempted to use it by:
org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness
mdbus -s /org/freesmartphone/device/display
org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness

and its fairly obvious that i am doing something wrong.

what would be the proper command for getting brightness level and setting it.

- jeremy

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Bluetooth laser keyboard

2009-12-30 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Any chance this could work?

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/

Pieter



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Re: [dbus] usage for SetBrightness

2009-12-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 12/30/09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
 list, im am trying to set the phones brightness/suspend on off/dim on
 off via the terminal.

 ive gotten so far as this page:
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Display.html;hb=HEAD#SetBrightness
 which gives the command:
 SetBrightness
 and have attempted to use it by:
 org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness
 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness
 mdbus -s /org/freesmartphone/device/display
 org.freesmartphone.Device.Display GetBrightness

 and its fairly obvious that i am doing something wrong.

 what would be the proper command for getting brightness level and setting
 it.

 - jeremy

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced
/org/freesmartphone/Device/Display/0
org.freesmartphone.Device.Display.GetBrightness

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced
/org/freesmartphone/Device/Display/0
org.freesmartphone.Device.Display.SetBrightness 100


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Re: Bluetooth laser keyboard

2009-12-30 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any chance this could work?

 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/
suppose you would have to wait till its in stock to know!

interesting idea though

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Втр, 29/12/2009 в 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes. But in fact I've not use pda before, so not much from that
functionality.

Most used non-phone functions is music player. Sound quality is nice for
phone, happy with upload method - just scp/mc, and with playing software
supporting any music formats. Intone in shr have own bugs and sometimes
annoyingly slow due to mmc speed, but exactly I want from player.
Mplayer in debian-based distributions (moved only soon).

 What distribution you run most of the time?

80% time were SHR-Unstable, QTmoko for some time, but recently switched
to H:1 for phone software, first flashed to test it, but found it better
that recent shr on my taste.

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

n/a. Problems with FR are not strong enough to switch.

Gennady


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread arne anka
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

yes

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?

debian

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Re: Bluetooth laser keyboard

2009-12-30 Thread Pablo Miño
I could not make it work but it should. I used SHR and Qt at that
time. My child was borned and I had to stop playing with this but if
you can make it work just let me know.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 14:17, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any chance this could work?

 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread tb
Yes, although i wish it would be better with core phone services
Yes
SHR-unstable

2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 What distribution you run most of the time?

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


 Thank you :)


 r

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 | risto at kurppa dot fi
 | http://risto.kurppa.fi

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Michele Abbrescia
Risto H. Kurppa ha scritto:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes.

 
 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U.

 
 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?
 
 
 Thank you :)
 
 
 r
 

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread dieeasy
Il giorno Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200
la Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi cusku di'e:

 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

not yet

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?

debian / qtmoko

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

never switched from my previous phone because of in-call audio quality
PIM is getting better, I like osmo very much
-- 
...all is relative, so don't think you're on the right side...

 :: send all your mail in plain ASCII text, please ::
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Adam Jimerson

On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:08 AM, DRSp. wrote:

 Am 29.12.2009 21:30, schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Yes

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Yes


 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U latest


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Vadim, Efimov
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:30:53 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi  
wrote:

 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
No

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
Yes

 What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U lastest

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?
Missing some PIM (especially phonebook) functionality  integration  
(contact's sort order),
audio quality (volume level), battery,

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Vincent Meurisse
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
Yes
 What distribution you run most of the time?
QtMoko

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Nope, sold it to buy an N900.
I enjoyed the concept a lot, but I needed something that works.




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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Giovanni
Almost, I'm starting in these days.
Yes.
SHR-U


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.frwrote:

 On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
  Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 Nope, sold it to buy an N900.
 I enjoyed the concept a lot, but I needed something that works.




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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?


No.
I still test stuff on it when time permits.

Do you use FR as your primary PDA?


No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to
sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't
do that (yet?).


 What distribution you run most of the time?


QtMoko.
Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way
to boot several distributions  (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it
seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader.


 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died(

I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life.
Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for
me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times.

I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short
battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it
impractical.
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?


 No.
 I still test stuff on it when time permits.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?


 No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to
 sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't
 do that (yet?).


 What distribution you run most of the time?


 QtMoko.
 Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way
 to boot several distributions  (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it
 seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader.

I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also
requires you to have custom bootloader?

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


 Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died(

 I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life.
 Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for
 me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times.

Strange, maybe your QtMoko just doesn't do well power management. Here
I need to recharge every ~2 days of normal usage, and battery time
when using GPS is also just nice, for instance for GSM cell logging (I
have second battery from my old Nokia and I don't need more)

 I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short
 battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it
 impractical.
 --
 Regards,
 Torfinn Ingolfsen


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Re: SHR unresponsiveness

2009-12-30 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/27 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de

 What is [h]top telling?



Can't really tell, cause I'm unable to run it :-)

It has just happened again. It might have something to do with suspending.

Btw, if the system is out of memory it should cope by killing some processes
at shouldn't generally freeze, right?
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Re: SHR unresponsiveness

2009-12-30 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 For example running nwa+terminal+midori
 makes it so slow it's even impossible to type anything in the shell through
 ssh.

a few days ago i was toying with nwa+midori+meebo and the entire phone
just took a crap. i thought it was simply meebo being too much for the
phone and have since never fired up nwa.

wonder if this is at all related?

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Still yes.

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

Define PDA. I use it uniquely for listening music with lyrics, and my
own developed dictionary.

 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U from september.

I learned the caveats. I use my modified paroli too. It has bugs,
problems, but I know almost all of them.
If it starts with cant init wifi service, I will not able to pick up
the incoming call for example.
The above bug I figured out in 2 months (why dont appear the incoming
call screen in paroli).

So there are bugs like this, but as I know all of them (never hang up
the same time as the other party, because paroli/fso just freezes), I
can workaround all of them.

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?

I began seriously thinking to switching back to a normal phone. The
audio quality is unreliable and poor.


 The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have
 managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that
 they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified
 so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why
 this behavior seems to change.

My biggest issue too. It never really worked. I have awesome quality
with Motorola old Razor
phone (my gf has it), almost never have any issue (buzz, echo, etc)
and she is at the
same provider.

But for example with almost all Samsung phone, they can hardly understand me.
I have also problem with Nokia 6300, sometime my voice get chopped,
and the other party
too. So I hear from 1 sec only half sec, then nothing, another half
second, then nothing.
If I speak slooowly the other party can understand me. But I pretty
often need to guess what the
other party wanted to say.

Also I have problem with people who have different provider then me
(pannon vs. vodafone)

What is worst, it has a serious social impact. There are people, who
simply refuse to call me,
because, my phone is shitty.
When the above chopping occurs, the other party starts to be really
angry, and starts
talking faster and louder, which makes the effect even worse.

Talking to landline has no issue in general.

So in my humble opinion the audio (hardware+software) on the
freerunner is seriously fucked up,
and what is worse, the key people never admitted the fact.

I tried everything, I fighted with the issue more then 6 months now
for a feature which is supposed
to JUST WORKs. And I think my settings are the best possible what can be made.

As the audio quality depends on the other party's phone (motorola is
the best in general), and
also the other's provider too, I dont think it can be ever adjusted
from software...


I only kept using this phone, because of the dictionary and the music
listening with lyrics.
Thats the only reason. And thats why I cant switch to an other phone

I also hate the fact that I need to charge every day my freerunner. I
will look into #1024 fix,
just the situation is so frustrating.

I also miss times to times the incoming call, because Im unable to
hear the ringing...

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: SHR unresponsiveness

2009-12-30 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/30 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com

 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
  For example running nwa+terminal+midori
  makes it so slow it's even impossible to type anything in the shell
 through
  ssh.

 a few days ago i was toying with nwa+midori+meebo and the entire phone
 just took a crap. i thought it was simply meebo being too much for the
 phone and have since never fired up nwa.

 wonder if this is at all related?



It might be wpa_supplicant or nwa. Or one of the two connected with
suspending.
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Tony McKeehan
Not my primary phone, but I use it form time to time to surf the 
web/play games with Hackable:1 or QtMoko (only distros that connect to 
web). Not  huge fan of SHR, because the interface does not lend itself 
well to a phone (can't even create+type+send an SMS in less than a 
minute, much less 15-20 seconds like every other phone ever).

My daily phone is the same phone I've had for years, a Motorolla L2 bar 
phone.

-Tonym

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 What distribution you run most of the time?

 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?


 Thank you :)


 r

   


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Re: Bluetooth laser keyboard

2009-12-30 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 17:17 +0100, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
 Any chance this could work?
 
 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/
 
 Pieter
it seem the same than the one I saw at fosdem but I can't tell for
sure...
if so it should work but I can't guarantee anything

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Ali
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
 
yes
 What distribution you run most of the time?
 
SHR-U/qtmoko
 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?
 
 
 Thank you :)
 
 
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 30 December 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
  Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 
  No.
  I still test stuff on it when time permits.
 
  Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
 
 
  No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to
  sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner
  can't do that (yet?).
 
  What distribution you run most of the time?
 
  QtMoko.
  Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_
  way to boot several distributions  (multi-boot) from one SD card.
  Currently it seems that each distribution requires a different
  bootloader.
 
 I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also
 requires you to have custom bootloader?

I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot  
parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND. I find 
uboot very easy for multibooting.

  If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
  over to, and why?
 
  Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died(
 
  I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life.
  Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle
  for me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all
  times.
 
 Strange, maybe your QtMoko just doesn't do well power management. Here
 I need to recharge every ~2 days of normal usage, and battery time
 when using GPS is also just nice, for instance for GSM cell logging (I
 have second battery from my old Nokia and I don't need more)

I get ~2days between charges most of the time too. GPS tracklogs cut it a lot, 
more because of not suspending than the GPS power itself, but see below for 
how this compares to a coupe of other handsets.

  I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the
  short battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it
  impractical.

I used the FR for recording tracklogs while walking over the summer. Friends 
were using the GPS on a G1 and a Sony-Ericsson (don't know the model) and they 
ran into battery problems much faster than I did. I was pleasantly surprised 
that the FR outperfomed them convincingly in this situation. The S-E also had 
trouble getting a lock when it couldn't get a cell data connection. 

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread David Wagner
jeremy jozwik a écrit :
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
 What distribution you run most of the time?

yes

no

hackable:1 , rev5

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Linux dyn-ticks on S3C24xx support?

2009-12-30 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

Back in 2008 there was a patch[1] to enable dyn-ticks on GTA02, does
anyone know what happened to it? I get a steady 200 wakeups from idle
per second in powertop when using the 2.6.29 version of Linux from SHR.
The /proc file mentioned in that thread does not exist. I have added
dyntick=enable to the Linux kernel command-line. I imagine the patch
would help a small amount with power consumption.

 1. 
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-June/thread.html#3535

PS: Please CC me on reply.

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Re: Tim's brilliant hack for #WikiReader

2009-12-30 Thread Ganesh Krishna
Hi,
Thank you Tim and Ron for the patch and the Kernel file. I installed it
on my mine and it improves the usability a lot. the history back/forward is
something I wanted since I bought the device.
Here are my observations(positive) after some hours of testing

1. The history back is fantastic, now I can easily get back to what I was
reading when I accidentally click a link during scrolling.

2. The page up/down is cool too, for fast flipping of pages.

3. There is one behavior that needs a little getting used to. The
scrolling(finger swipe) and pageup/dn touch sensing seems to be overlapped.
Try to scroll down a page (your finger moves from bottom to screen top). if
your finger hits the top boarder, the page will flip in that direction and
you are back at the place you started.
you can overcome this by swiping only in the middle, and I got used to
it quite quickly.

Thanks,
-GK


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Ganesh Krishna ganesh.kris...@gmail.comwrote:

 Brilliant! I love it. Thank you.
 -GK


 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org wrote:

 The email below was rejected because the attachment was too large.
 Please read on, and find the patched kernel here:

 http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/kernel.elf.bordershttp://www.ludism.org/%7Erwhe/kernel.elf.borders

 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org wrote:
  Well, I bit the bullet and installed a WikiReader build environment
  and compiled the latest kernel. Then I applied Tim's patch and
  recompiled and installed the kernel.
 
  It's brilliant! I'm attaching it to this message. Just rename it to
  kernel.elf, save it to your SD card, and pop it back in. Enjoy! (Back
  up your old kernel first.)
 
  Thanks, Tim!
 
  As a bonus, the latest build also seems to improve touch screen
  responsiveness for hyperlinks.
 
  Ron Hale-Evans
 
  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Ron Hale-Evans r...@ludism.org
 wrote:
  Tim,
 
  This sounds awesome! I hope it becomes standard.
 
  Could you please attach a complete kernel for those of us who are too
  lazy to set up a toolchain right now? :)
 
  Happy holidays and thanks,
 
  Ron H-E
 
  On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Tim Besard tim.bes...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Seems like patch didn't get through, reposting bzipped.
 
  -Tim
 
  Op woensdag 16-12-2009 om 22:28 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tim
  Besard:
  Hi all,
 
  Attached to this mail is a small patch I wrote a while ago,
 introducing
  border interactions. It quite simply hacks in a 15px magical border
  which when tapped induces certain actions:
* upper border: page up;
* lower border: page down;
* left border: history back;
* right border: history forward.
 
  I've added page up  down because it reads far faster and scrolling
  (at least on my wikireader) turned out to be quite unreadable.
 History
  back and forward are handy shortcuts while clicking through links of
 an
  article.
 
  -Tim
 
 
 
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Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image

2009-12-30 Thread Dan Staley
Thanks for these installer images (For Android and QtMoko).  It has
convinced me to start trying some of the other distros other than SHR.
 Android appears to have really come along since I last played with it!

Thanks again,
-Dan Staley

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:35 AM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote:


 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded  has
 created a
 new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it
 can be dowloaded here:  http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22
 Android-Cupcake-V22 .
 Just follow the instructions of the readme.txt contained in the zip-file.

 Regards,
 Ghislain van der Steen
 http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend  -  http://www.openmobile.nl
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RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Russell Dwiggins

|Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

Sometimes

|Do you use FR as your primary PDA?


No

|What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-U

|If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
|over to, and why?

No changes yet, but still use Treo 650 because of PIM and Bluetooth headset.
Once these things are stable, I think I can make the daily move.  Since my
Treo is falling apart, and since the distros are taking a long time to be
ready (I don't blame anyone), the n900 is looking attractive.  I'd rather
stay open, though.
|
|Thank you :)

Thank YOU!
 [Russell Dwiggins] 
|
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Hans Zimmerman
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?

yes

 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

yes

 
 What distribution you run most of the time?

SHR-Testing

 
 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
 over to, and why?
 

I need to switch to another phone when calling my grandmother, surely 
she doesn't hear very well any more but there still seems to be a 
audio/voice quality. I'm surprised so many people in this thread mention 
this.


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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Ian Stephen
Quoting Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:

 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?

 What distribution you run most of the time?

Yes
No
SHR

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problem with update

2009-12-30 Thread nacer
Hi,
I'm new freerunner user. I'm running shr but I'm experiencing two issues 
with that os:
- my gps system seems to not working. When I launch tangogps I still 
have a no gps found. Looking the logs, the system is looking for pwron 
file that doesn't exist.
- Then I thought an upgrade of the system would be a solution. But when 
I try the update, the Xserver stop functionning and I'm not able to make 
it works again.
Can you help me please?

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