Re: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-05 Thread Yorick Moko
I also didn't know about that application (time for the new opkg.org)

but I also have a small off topic question:
does anybody know of a way to make the FR act like a USB keyboard?
I would very much like a small device which I can plug into any machine/host
and that will be recognised as an USB keyboard


thank you very much,
y

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the link and
 prompt response... something to play with tonight :-)

 cheers Denis

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Great work, thanks for this.
 
  At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an
  app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my
  MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although
  some gestures could be useful down the track.
 
  Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could
  get going on the FR ? The following thread
 
  [...]
 
  You may try
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED
 
  Regards
 
   Niko

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[QtMoko] http://qtmoko.meurisse.org

2010-01-05 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
hello all,

i don't know which peoble did made the packages on repo 
http://qtmoko.meurisse.org . i found it in the wiki of qtmoko.org

i was wondering when qtmoko v16 came in this repo. if the maintainer(s) 
haven't enough time, it would be nice if he/she/they wrote a little manual, 
then i also create a repo which i went to keep fresh..

greets

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freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread arne anka
 I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free
 software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way -
  freeware and open source apps not always are free software)

huh?
since when and who made that decision?
for all i know, the line goes between open source and free.
open source has not to be free and free has not to be open source.

to signify what you have in mind, the term foss was coined. and just the  
need to add f signifies that free is not open source per se (and vice  
versa of course).

 Remember, in free software term free means freedom, not free beer
 (as in freeware) :P

that is only _one_ meaning.
as human language goes, the very same word might have a lot of meanings --  
depending on context, speaker, time or place.


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Re: building qtmoko V15

2010-01-05 Thread Cepera

Try to overwrite build-dir/sdk/bin/qbuild.bin by version built using Qt 4.4
(during configure).
It helps for me. At least I don't see this error.
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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Tom Yates

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, arne anka wrote:

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:]

I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free
software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way -
 freeware and open source apps not always are free software)


huh? since when and who made that decision? for all i know, the line 
goes between open source and free. open source has not to be free and 
free has not to be open source.


to signify what you have in mind, the term foss was coined. and just the 
need to add f signifies that free is not open source per se (and vice 
versa of course).



Remember, in free software term free means freedom, not free beer
(as in freeware) :P


that is only _one_ meaning. as human language goes, the very same word 
might have a lot of meanings -- depending on context, speaker, time or 
place.


for the sake of record keeping (and because i think it's an important 
distinction, though i accept that others disagree):


the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was 
published by the free software foundation [1].  it quite clearly embedded 
the definition of free that sebastian refers to when it said:


When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. 
Specifically, the General Public License is designed to make sure that you 
have the freedom to give away or sell copies of free software, that you 
receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the 
software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you 
can do these things. .


the term free software may well have been in use before then, but it was 
set in stone by 1989.


the term open source was coined in early 1998 [2], nearly a decade 
later, by a group of people who _inter alia_ objected to the ambiguous 
meaning of free in ordinary english.  FLOSS and FOSS were terms coined 
later, off the back of the term open source.


it's true that english is still ambiguous in its definition of free, but 
it's not fair to say that free software is an ambiguous term.  it has 
been precisely defined for over 20 years, long before the term open 
source was coined.  when sebastian speaks of free software, i think 
he's right to impute the FSF's definition of freedon to it.


please by all means use the terms open source, FOSS, FLOSS and so on if 
you find they help crystallise your thinking, but arne, whilst i hugely 
admire your software chops and appreciate the work you've done, i think 
you're wrong to insist that others join you because you think free 
software means only free as in beer.


hopefully i'm not offending anyone by jumping in with a bit of history!


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[1] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-1.0.txt

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source :
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-01-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:

 AFAIR there was some problem like that with GSM firmware. Do you have
 it upgraded?

Yes, but I upgraded it long before the first time I tried GPRS. So
perhaps there were problems before that. The phone functionality
improved with the GSM firmware update - no more people complaining
they called me while nothing happened on the device.

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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread arne anka
 the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
 published by the free software foundation [1].

a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective  
and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
b) qualifying a substantive with free has been in use long before the  
creation of software
c) free software is in no way an unique term or used uniquely by the FSF  
-- the sentence you are quoting very clearly proves that by saying
When we speak of free software
ie, the term is used in a certain sense in a certain context (the GPL) --  
but there's no way, the GPL is globally applicable ot the authors are in  
any way authorized to rule the use of those very common and widely used  
words in a very common grammatical construction.


to conclude the discussion: sebastian  would be right _only_ if somewhere  
in the discussion all participants had agreed to put the software in  
question under the GPL or at least use the GPL's definition.
i can't recall, that has ever happend -- insofar any claim to use the  
GPL's definition as the solely applicable one is not justified!

it is understandable to think in the trems of the GPL but it is not the  
only way to think.
thus, if any author claims his/her software to be free software, he/she  
is entitled to it -- only if he/she accepted the GPL's definition as the  
binding definition of the term, his/her software has to meet the  
requirements laid down in the GPL.

 but arne, whilst i hugely admire your software chops and appreciate the  
 work you've done,

i don't know, what exactly you are talking about, but thanks anyway :-)

 i think you're wrong to insist that others join you because you think  
 free software means only free as in beer.

i don't.
as i hopefully made clear, i think the meaning of free (or free  
software) has to be defined before accusing somebody of misuse
and that definition was (and is) still lacking.
free might be as in beer or speech or nothing to do (and those of us  
coming from eg the former communist parts of europe, will remember that  
not only the meaning of free might differ but even the extend involved),  
but that is not clear beforehand and certainly not implicit, even if most  
of us tend to think in therms of the GPL.

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Re: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-05 Thread Gennady Kupava
+1

and mouse (touchpad or normal, accelerometer based 'moving' not
'rotating')

nide/nided look very close except you need to setup service, but not
exactly universal usb device.

interesting can it OM function as 'multipurpose device' - cdc-ether and
usb mouse/kbd?

interesting task, I'll start to investigate/do prototype.

gennady

В Втр, 05/01/2010 в 10:25 +0100, Yorick Moko пишет:
 I also didn't know about that application (time for the new opkg.org)
 
 but I also have a small off topic question:
 does anybody know of a way to make the FR act like a USB keyboard?
 I would very much like a small device which I can plug into any
 machine/host and that will be recognised as an USB keyboard
 
 
 thank you very much,
 y
 
 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Denis Johnson
 denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the
 link and
 prompt response... something to play with tonight :-)
 
 cheers Denis
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb
 nicola@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson
 denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
  Great work, thanks for this.
 
  At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to
 have an
  app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control
 for my
  MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed,
 although
  some gestures could be useful down the track.
 
  Does anyone know if there is something already available
 which I could
  get going on the FR ? The following thread
 
  [...]
 
  You may try
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED
 
  Regards
 
   Niko
 
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Fwd: [Debian] Re: Touchscreen not working

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
[forgot to CC the list...]


-- Forwarded message --
From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com
Date: 2010/1/5
Subject: Re: [Debian] Re: Touchscreen not working
To: Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com


2010/1/5 Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com:

 So it seems, downgrading hal packages to 0.5.13-6 solved this touch
 screen problem for me.


 FWIW, looks to me like this bug:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562052.

       Neil



 Neil, could you point me to the location of 0.5.13-6? I am unable to find
 the repository with that version.

My method for this would be to:
- run aptitude
- find the hal package
- press Enter to bring up a new screen with detailed information for
that package.

Then, at or near the bottom, you should see the available versions,
including 0.5.13-6.  Move down to that line and press + to tell
aptitude that you want to install that version.

If you don't see that version, I would guess that you need to update
your /etc/apt/sources.list so that it includes the Debian testing
repository as well as unstable, then run apt-get update or
aptitude update to update your package information, then retry as
above.

Hope some of that helps!

    Neil

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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Viktor Lindberg
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
  the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
  published by the free software foundation [1].
 
 a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective  
 and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
 b) qualifying a substantive with free has been in use long before the  
 creation of software
 c) free software is in no way an unique term or used uniquely by the FSF  
 -- the sentence you are quoting very clearly proves that by saying
 When we speak of free software
 ie, the term is used in a certain sense in a certain context (the GPL) --  
 but there's no way, the GPL is globally applicable ot the authors are in  
 any way authorized to rule the use of those very common and widely used  
 words in a very common grammatical construction.


Qualifying a substantive with free is far older yes, but that is
not a point, nor is a) a point. c) may be a point but they're really
just bringing clearity cause the word is fuzzy.

 
 to conclude the discussion: sebastian  would be right _only_ if somewhere  
 in the discussion all participants had agreed to put the software in  
 question under the GPL or at least use the GPL's definition.
 i can't recall, that has ever happend -- insofar any claim to use the  
 GPL's definition as the solely applicable one is not justified!

If one is to be used then that one should be used. Ethymologically
that is right, but also the other usage of the word isn't really
widely spread nor accepted by many today, it also makes no sense.

 it is understandable to think in the trems of the GPL but it is not the  
 only way to think.
 thus, if any author claims his/her software to be free software, he/she  
 is entitled to it -- only if he/she accepted the GPL's definition as the  
 binding definition of the term, his/her software has to meet the  
 requirements laid down in the GPL.

GPL is not the only free license. Furthermore, if you by using the term
free software to describe software that is not free but gratis, you
have misused the word haven't you?

  but arne, whilst i hugely admire your software chops and appreciate the  
  work you've done,
 
 i don't know, what exactly you are talking about, but thanks anyway :-)
 
  i think you're wrong to insist that others join you because you think  
  free software means only free as in beer.
 
 i don't.
 as i hopefully made clear, i think the meaning of free (or free  
 software) has to be defined before accusing somebody of misuse
 and that definition was (and is) still lacking.
 free might be as in beer or speech or nothing to do (and those of us  
 coming from eg the former communist parts of europe, will remember that  
 not only the meaning of free might differ but even the extend involved),  
 but that is not clear beforehand and certainly not implicit, even if most  
 of us tend to think in therms of the GPL.

Yes free may be interpreted as free of duties (which i belive is what
you meant with nothing to do) however interpreteing it as free of
charge is still not a very good thing cause it breaks the definition
of free.

Because free is such a fuzzy word, mainly due to misusage of the word
 one can use the words libre or gratis to distinguish them.

Open source is however not the same as FLOSS or Free/Libre Software.
The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same
idea as the Free Software movement has. For the Free Software movement
the idea of Free/Libre Software is that it should be free as in
freedom. Not just open for anyone to examine as is the case with Open
Source.

And mainly because there is such a large movement of Free Software
(free as in freedom) and the usage of free while in the discussion of
software the usage of the word free in regards to software
is in any case but the term Freeware analogous with libre software.

And you know what? Free as used in free of charge often can be
intepreted as you are free to do whatever you want to do with it, not
only that it is gratis. If i have a free soda pop for you, then you
can use it for whatever, even give it away to someone else.. for if i
attached criterias for why it is gratis then would it still be free?

Please clean up your own language usage to avoid things like this, it
is tedious to have to be carefull about the word free is applied only
because people do not consider their own language usage or the
consistancy in their language.

/end of arrogant rant about language usage.

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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Petr Vanek
/end of arrogant rant about language usage.

this is getting too long for me :)

just download the relevant packages which this thread started about
and read license in there, it might help your understanding :))

cheers

Petr


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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:

 The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
 principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
 that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same
 idea as the Free Software movement has. [...] Not just open for anyone to 
 examine as is the case with Open
 Source.

FWIW, that is not my understanding.  I believe that the practical
requirements of Open Source and Free Software are mostly identical.
The difference is one of philosophical emphasis: the Open Source
movement chooses to emphasize practical and tangible benefits from
using and working on their projects, whereas the Free Software
movement emphasizes freedom, even if it means working in the short
term with an inferior product.

I hope that's useful to someone (and correct!) ...

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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Since this is a mailinglist about openmoko's «free»runner, I think it's
normal to assume everyone on this mailinglist understands the idea
behind the free philosophy.

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:09 +0100, Viktor Lindberg wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
   the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
   published by the free software foundation [1].
  
  a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective  
  and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
  b) qualifying a substantive with free has been in use long before the  
  creation of software
  c) free software is in no way an unique term or used uniquely by the FSF  
  -- the sentence you are quoting very clearly proves that by saying
  When we speak of free software
  ie, the term is used in a certain sense in a certain context (the GPL) --  
  but there's no way, the GPL is globally applicable ot the authors are in  
  any way authorized to rule the use of those very common and widely used  
  words in a very common grammatical construction.
 
 
 Qualifying a substantive with free is far older yes, but that is
 not a point, nor is a) a point. c) may be a point but they're really
 just bringing clearity cause the word is fuzzy.
 
  
  to conclude the discussion: sebastian  would be right _only_ if somewhere  
  in the discussion all participants had agreed to put the software in  
  question under the GPL or at least use the GPL's definition.
  i can't recall, that has ever happend -- insofar any claim to use the  
  GPL's definition as the solely applicable one is not justified!
 
 If one is to be used then that one should be used. Ethymologically
 that is right, but also the other usage of the word isn't really
 widely spread nor accepted by many today, it also makes no sense.
 
  it is understandable to think in the trems of the GPL but it is not the  
  only way to think.
  thus, if any author claims his/her software to be free software, he/she  
  is entitled to it -- only if he/she accepted the GPL's definition as the  
  binding definition of the term, his/her software has to meet the  
  requirements laid down in the GPL.
 
 GPL is not the only free license. Furthermore, if you by using the term
 free software to describe software that is not free but gratis, you
 have misused the word haven't you?
 
   but arne, whilst i hugely admire your software chops and appreciate the  
   work you've done,
  
  i don't know, what exactly you are talking about, but thanks anyway :-)
  
   i think you're wrong to insist that others join you because you think  
   free software means only free as in beer.
  
  i don't.
  as i hopefully made clear, i think the meaning of free (or free  
  software) has to be defined before accusing somebody of misuse
  and that definition was (and is) still lacking.
  free might be as in beer or speech or nothing to do (and those of us  
  coming from eg the former communist parts of europe, will remember that  
  not only the meaning of free might differ but even the extend involved),  
  but that is not clear beforehand and certainly not implicit, even if most  
  of us tend to think in therms of the GPL.
 
 Yes free may be interpreted as free of duties (which i belive is what
 you meant with nothing to do) however interpreteing it as free of
 charge is still not a very good thing cause it breaks the definition
 of free.
 
 Because free is such a fuzzy word, mainly due to misusage of the word
  one can use the words libre or gratis to distinguish them.
 
 Open source is however not the same as FLOSS or Free/Libre Software.
 The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
 principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
 that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same
 idea as the Free Software movement has. For the Free Software movement
 the idea of Free/Libre Software is that it should be free as in
 freedom. Not just open for anyone to examine as is the case with Open
 Source.
 
 And mainly because there is such a large movement of Free Software
 (free as in freedom) and the usage of free while in the discussion of
 software the usage of the word free in regards to software
 is in any case but the term Freeware analogous with libre software.
 
 And you know what? Free as used in free of charge often can be
 intepreted as you are free to do whatever you want to do with it, not
 only that it is gratis. If i have a free soda pop for you, then you
 can use it for whatever, even give it away to someone else.. for if i
 attached criterias for why it is gratis then would it still be free?
 
 Please clean up your own language usage to avoid things like this, it
 is tedious to have to be carefull about the word free is applied only
 because people do not consider their own language usage or the
 consistancy in their language.
 
 /end of arrogant rant about language 

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Viktor Lindberg
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:39:42PM +, Neil Jerram wrote:
 2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:
 
  The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
  principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
  that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same
  idea as the Free Software movement has. [...] Not just open for anyone to 
  examine as is the case with Open
  Source.
 
 FWIW, that is not my understanding.  I believe that the practical
 requirements of Open Source and Free Software are mostly identical.
 The difference is one of philosophical emphasis: the Open Source
 movement chooses to emphasize practical and tangible benefits from
 using and working on their projects, whereas the Free Software
 movement emphasizes freedom, even if it means working in the short
 term with an inferior product.

I don't wish to be rude but you're not actually contradicting anything
i'm saying afaict thought you are putting the words diffrently to
emphasis that Open Source would have a better technical solution, i'm
not sure that is the case, it might be true to some extent yes. But
when you have virtues and value ethics highly you might have to avoid
certain methods which you consider evil to some extent.

And frankly to use any GNU/Linux distribution as an example, Free
Software is not that technically inferior. In fact most GNU/Linux
systems are have a much higher rate of free software as part of the
system then non free open source software. There are even
distributions that have strict policies agains including non free
software that works perfectly well with perhaps the small exceptions
of some few hardware drivers, in this case you can just avoid buying
hardware from vendors who completle ignores the call for free software.

Not to forget OpenBSD which is 100% Free Software and is renown for
being a really good technical solution.

Yes it is true that the Open Source movement likes to focus on the
technical advantages of Open Source Software, but it's not true to say
that good technical solution is ignored by the Free Software
movement. However the big diffrence lies as you said in the
philosophical part, that ethical apsects of software freedom, thus
somtimes the Free Software movement is sometimes happy with a
suboptimal solution for the sake of moral issues. (in my case i
consider linux a subotpimal technical solution, but it allows for me
to run a fully free OS)

 I hope that's useful to someone (and correct!) ...
 
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[SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?

2010-01-05 Thread vancel35

Back in the days of the April release for SHR-Testing, the keyboard wouldn't
auto-display, and I thought that was somewhat inconvenient, so I was happy
when I upgraded to SHR-U and saw that the keyboard would auto-display when I
clicked in text fields.

However, I've found that the behavior is more annoying than having to pull
up the keyboard when I want it.  There are many times that a program will
automatically put the cursor into a text field, and I don't want to do
anything with that text field, so I have to manually close the keyboard. 
Then I click somewhere else on the screen, and it happens to go into a text
area again... the keyboard auto-displays, and I have to manually close it
again.

Is there a configuration that I can tell it to only display and hide
manually?  I want it to stay invisible until I want it, and I want it to
stay visible until I'm done... indicated by hitting the button to activate /
deactivate.  I don't want it to try to interpret when it thinks I want it
and when I don't.

I've searched the mailing list using Nabble, and the only thing I found was
from when the matchbox keyboard was a separate application, and there was a
separate configuration (/etc/matchbox/session).  Unfortunately that path
doesn't exist in the December release.

Thanks for any info.

-Laura
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Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?

2010-01-05 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 18:33, vancel35 van...@thespazcat.com wrote:

 Back in the days of the April release for SHR-Testing, the keyboard wouldn't
 auto-display, and I thought that was somewhat inconvenient, so I was happy
 when I upgraded to SHR-U and saw that the keyboard would auto-display when I
 clicked in text fields.

 However, I've found that the behavior is more annoying than having to pull
 up the keyboard when I want it.  There are many times that a program will
 automatically put the cursor into a text field, and I don't want to do
 anything with that text field, so I have to manually close the keyboard.
 Then I click somewhere else on the screen, and it happens to go into a text
 area again... the keyboard auto-displays, and I have to manually close it
 again.

 Is there a configuration that I can tell it to only display and hide
 manually?  I want it to stay invisible until I want it, and I want it to
 stay visible until I'm done... indicated by hitting the button to activate /
 deactivate.  I don't want it to try to interpret when it thinks I want it
 and when I don't.

 I've searched the mailing list using Nabble, and the only thing I found was
 from when the matchbox keyboard was a separate application, and there was a
 separate configuration (/etc/matchbox/session).  Unfortunately that path
 doesn't exist in the December release.

 Thanks for any info.

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That's matchbox-keyboard-im which makes keyboard popping up
automatically with GTK+ apps (don't be suggested with name, on default
install matchbox-keyboard-im pops up Illume keyboard ;)). You can
uninstall that package.

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TangoGPS font size for speed indicator

2010-01-05 Thread vancel35

I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has increased
the font size for the speed display on the map screen.  I don't need or want
it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now.  I've looked inside the
TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see
any options to set the font size.  Although I have to admit that some of the
config option names are slightly cryptic.

Is there a setting to reduce the font size?

Thanks for any info.

-Laura
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Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?

2010-01-05 Thread vancel35


Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 18:33, vancel35 van...@thespazcat.com wrote:
 
 
 That's matchbox-keyboard-im which makes keyboard popping up
 automatically with GTK+ apps (don't be suggested with name, on default
 install matchbox-keyboard-im pops up Illume keyboard ;)). You can
 uninstall that package.
 
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Ok, that worked for GTK+ apps, but what about the rest of them?  There are
text fields in the settings python apps that if you touch the wrong area,
the keyboard still auto-displays.  Is there any way to stop it there as
well?

Even if it can't, the fact that it's stopped in GTK+ apps is very helpful,
so thank you very much for that. :)

-Laura
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Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator

2010-01-05 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues and
changed it in my geocaching patch:

change this line in src/gps_functions.c after setting global_font_scale to
sth like 40:

@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw)
  layout  = pango_layout_new (context);
  desc= pango_font_description_new();

- pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE);
+ pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE *
global_font_scale /100);
  pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc);
  pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer));


HTH, Stefan
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, vancel35 van...@thespazcat.com wrote:


 I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has increased
 the font size for the speed display on the map screen.  I don't need or
 want
 it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now.  I've looked inside the
 TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see
 any options to set the font size.  Although I have to admit that some of
 the
 config option names are slightly cryptic.

 Is there a setting to reduce the font size?

 Thanks for any info.

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bootloaders (Was: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-05 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also
 requires you to have custom bootloader?



None that I know of. But the main problem is that you can't (as a user)
easily multiboot between one image in NAND and sevaral images on SD card.
Let's see:
- Qi is missing the so-called multiboot partition that was proposed to fix
this. There has been a few attempts to create a write up that explains how
to set up all this, but AFAIk, today there isn't a complete ow-to anywhere.
In my eyes, this makes qi incomplete.

- uboot has problem with bigger kernels, and besides you still have to
configure it by hand for each partition you want to boot (whoever thought
that up? an ex-grub developer? Why can't uboot figure out this on its own?
Why does it nedd the help of a human for such a simple task?)

- you have already mentioned the forked Qi that Android needs.

Have I forgotten anything?
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Bootloaders - part 2 (Was: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-05 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote:

 I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot
 parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND.


It makes me wonder why the missing functionality (ability to read parameters
from a file o something else in nand) wasn't implemented in the main Qi
instead of forking it.


 I find uboot very easy for multibooting.


Interesting. Care to tell more about your setup?
Which distributions are yu multibooting? Android, SHR, QtMoko, Hackable?
One in NAND and three or four on a sd card?
If you decide to switch sd card, do you hve to update uboot settings?

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Re: Bootloaders - part 2

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Fertser
Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk 
 wrote:

 I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot
 parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND.

 It makes me wonder why the missing functionality (ability to read
 parameters from a file o something else in nand) wasn't implemented
 in the main Qi instead of forking it.

It wasn't implemented anywhere. Wasn't implemented in koolu's
fork. Just because flash filesystems like jffs2 and ubifs are not as
simple to read as ext2. Also Qi was designed to primarily provide a
means to boot rootfs from uSD. And be dead simple.

 I find uboot very easy for multibooting.

 Interesting. Care to tell more about your setup?
 Which distributions are yu multibooting? Android, SHR, QtMoko, Hackable?
 One in NAND and three or four on a sd card?
 If you decide to switch sd card, do you hve to update uboot
 settings?

Come on, u-boot is well-known among embedded devs, there's a u-boot
manual etc. BTW, it doesn't have any problems with big kernels. So if
you want it, you get it. An old u-boot fork still works on
Freerunners. What else do you want? Hack on u-boot to make it more
grub-like? First you'll need to push om-specific parts mainline and
then persuade the u-boot devs that embedded is ready for grub-like
functionality. And then reimplement many of the kernel drivers etc
etc. I don't get you guys. If you want boot menu, go for a simple
framebuffer menu in initramfs. Reliable, debuggable, easy.

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Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator

2010-01-05 Thread vancel35



Stefan Fröbe wrote:
 
 Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues and
 changed it in my geocaching patch:
 
 change this line in src/gps_functions.c after setting global_font_scale to
 sth like 40:
 
 @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw)
   layout  = pango_layout_new (context);
   desc= pango_font_description_new();
 
 - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE);
 + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE *
 global_font_scale /100);
   pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc);
   pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer));
 
 
 HTH, Stefan
 

I haven't installed the OM development stack yet, and I haven't installed
the geocaching patch.  Since PANGO_SCALE looks like a global variable, I
tried to find a global pango config file, and I couldn't find anything.  I
tried to set the PANGO_SCALE as a global shell variable, and no luck.

In your code snippet, it seems like that hard-coded 60 should be a
user-definable variable from the config screen or at least a config file.

I guess it's time for me to install the OM dev kit.

Thanks for the info. :)

-Laura

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Re: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-05 Thread Yorick Moko
glad to see someone else interested!

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote:

 +1

 and mouse (touchpad or normal, accelerometer based 'moving' not
 'rotating')

 nide/nided look very close except you need to setup service, but not
 exactly universal usb device.

 interesting can it OM function as 'multipurpose device' - cdc-ether and
 usb mouse/kbd?

 interesting task, I'll start to investigate/do prototype.

 gennady

 В Втр, 05/01/2010 в 10:25 +0100, Yorick Moko пишет:
  I also didn't know about that application (time for the new opkg.org)
 
  but I also have a small off topic question:
  does anybody know of a way to make the FR act like a USB keyboard?
  I would very much like a small device which I can plug into any
  machine/host and that will be recognised as an USB keyboard
 
 
  thank you very much,
  y
 
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Denis Johnson
  denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the
  link and
  prompt response... something to play with tonight :-)
 
  cheers Denis
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb
  nicola@gmail.com wrote:
   On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson
  denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
   Great work, thanks for this.
  
   At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to
  have an
   app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control
  for my
   MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed,
  although
   some gestures could be useful down the track.
  
   Does anyone know if there is something already available
  which I could
   get going on the FR ? The following thread
  
   [...]
  
   You may try
  
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED
  
   Regards
  
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QMokoPlayer - QtMoko v16

2010-01-05 Thread Esteban Monge
Hello I tried QtMoko v16 is great but I have the same problem, Arora
crashes.

Also I tried QMokoPlayer, the radio it OK but in what path I need put the
videos for watch it?

Only need install with apt-get youtube-dl for watch videos? Also is the same
situation with mp3 play?

Thanks and great job.

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Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Franck
On 01/04/2010 11:46 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
 http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

downloaded and installed that..

 But i think sth more is needed. We need an bluetooth agent that knows about 
 obexd. Perhaps simple-agent does.

I used simple-agent before (see the thread here:
http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-unstable-Bluetooth-pairing-with-BMW-Pro-Radio-car-handsfree-fails-tp3060247p3060247.html
)
will try when I manage to set everything up.. :)


 then obexd needs to be started with -p option, the /etc/dbus-1/services 
 config 
 file doesn't do that in my current version, so you have to add that option 
 there.

I don't even have a obexd.conf in the system.d folder.. :S

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why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

2010-01-05 Thread dehqan65
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Hello;
This is frameworkd.log  http://pastebin.com/me4626ff

Traceback :

KeyError: '/dev/ttySAC1'
 gpsdev = globals()[devname]( controller.bus, channel )

Also :
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
/org/freesmartphone/Usage \
  org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy GPS enabled
  /org/freesmartphone/Usage: SetResourcePolicy failed:
org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceUnknown (Resource GPS had never been
registered)

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Re: Ringtone request

2010-01-05 Thread dehqan65
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

hello;

You may be interested in my ringtones package. The source code is available
 from this URL:


 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/ringtones/file/tip

 It uses the signalgen package.


Problem with building it :

r...@alabd:/media/disk1/all/soft/openmoko/ringtones-4c84dc2dcdd4# ksh
build_package.ksh
*** Warning: The following files have a UID greater than 99.
You probably want to chown these to a system user:
drwxrwxrwx 3 alabd alabd   4096 2010-01-05 19:06 ./usr
drwxrwxrwx 3 alabd alabd   4096 2010-01-05 19:06 ./usr/share
drwxrwxrwx 2 alabd alabd   4096 2010-01-05 19:06 ./usr/share/sounds
-rwxrwxrwx 1 alabd alabd 132344 2009-12-06 06:19
./usr/share/sounds/five_tones.wav
-rwxrwxrwx 1 alabd alabd  22094 2009-12-06 06:19
./usr/share/sounds/t05004000.wav
-rwxrwxrwx 1 alabd alabd  44144 2009-12-06 06:19
./usr/share/sounds/t10004000.wav

*** Error: CONTROL/control is missing field Source
The Source field contain the URL's or filenames of the source code and any
patches
used to build this package.  Either gnu-style tarballs or Debian source
packages
are acceptable.  Relative filenames may be used if they are distributed in
the same
directory as the .ipk file.

ipkg-build: Please fix the above errors and try again.


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Re: Ringtone request

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Smith
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:32:11 +0330
dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote:

 In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
 
 hello;
 
 You may be interested in my ringtones package. The source code is available
  from this URL:
 
 
  http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/ringtones/file/tip
 
  It uses the signalgen package.
 
 
 Problem with building it :

I am not sure what is going on there. You could run build_package.ksh
with set -x at the top to get more information, or you could just run
your own variation of create_tones.ksh and manually load the generated file 
onto the phone.

What operating system are you running on?
Is ksh installed?
I never run from root but I use sudo to set the owner id of some files

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Re: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-05 Thread hab keen oh ne
Ofc, this is possible. But to implement this, I would have to know, which 
action causes which event. Maybe it is best, if you tell me the specific 
applicaton which is to be controlled? Perhaps it will turn out to be a 
motivation for me...





Von: Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm
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Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol

2010/1/4 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz


i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for
speeding/slowing would be great too :)



It would be cool if it were used as a joystick. Can you make fake joystick 
events in Xorg? 

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AW: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-05 Thread hab keen oh ne
@ Gennady: normal mode just plays with the error keys. sys/time.h doesn't need 
to be included when Im using my toolchain, For some reaseon some compilers need 
it to be included and some don't, I have met a guy not able to compile it, too, 
I've added this. Thanks for the hint with the Makefile. Just uploaded it to the 
git server, not with the tarball...sry.
Besides: Im always glad about wishes, so if you think your ideas are remotely 
compatible with openmokontrol, tell me about them, maybe we could work together.





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glad to see someone else interested!


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote:

+1

and mouse (touchpad or normal, accelerometer based 'moving' not
'rotating')

nide/nided look very close except you need to setup service, but not
exactly universal usb device.

interesting can it OM function as 'multipurpose device' - cdc-ether and
usb mouse/kbd?

interesting task, I'll start to investigate/do prototype.

gennady

В Втр, 05/01/2010 в 10:25 +0100, Yorick Moko пишет:

 I also didn't know about that application (time for the new opkg.org)

 but I also have a small off topic question:
 does anybody know of a way to make the FR act like a USB keyboard?
 I would very much like a small device which I can plug into any
 machine/host and that will be recognised as an USB keyboard


 thank you very much,
 y

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Denis Johnson
 denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the
 link and
 prompt response... something to play with tonight :-)

 cheers Denis


 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb
 nicola@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson
 denis.john...@gmail.com wrote:
  Great work, thanks for this.
 
  At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to
 have an
  app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control
 for my
  MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed,
 although
  some gestures could be useful down the track.
 
  Does anyone know if there is something already available
 which I could
  get going on the FR ? The following thread
 
  [...]
 
  You may try
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED
 
  Regards
 
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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-01-05 Thread Kosa
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
Yes
 Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
Yes
 What distribution you run most of the time?
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Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:

 I don't wish to be rude but you're not actually contradicting anything
 i'm saying afaict

Actually I think I am a bit.  You said Not just open for anyone to
examine as is the case with Open Source, which sounds to me like you
are saying that people cannot modify or redistribute Open Source code.

But in fact they can, according to every OSI-approved license that
I've heard of.

 thought you are putting the words diffrently to
 emphasis that Open Source would have a better technical solution, i'm
 not sure that is the case, it might be true to some extent yes.

It sounds like you think that I'm supporting the Open Source point of
view.  I'm not; I was just trying to describe the philosophical
difference as clearly as possible.  As it happens, I strongly prefer
the Free Software point of view - and I completely agree with what you
write next:

 But
 when you have virtues and value ethics highly you might have to avoid
 certain methods which you consider evil to some extent.

 And frankly to use any GNU/Linux distribution as an example, Free
 Software is not that technically inferior. [...]

 Yes it is true that the Open Source movement likes to focus on the
 technical advantages of Open Source Software, but it's not true to say
 that good technical solution is ignored by the Free Software
 movement.

Well I certainly hope not, given that I've been working (on and off)
on a FSF project for more than 10 years now...  :-)

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Re: why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/5 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com:

 This is frameworkd.log  http://pastebin.com/me4626ff

 Traceback :

 KeyError: '/dev/ttySAC1'
  gpsdev = globals()[devname]( controller.bus, channel )

What software are you using on your Freerunner?  Googling shows a few
cases of the ogsmd factory method failing, but they're all quite old,
and apparently fixed.  So maybe using a newer distribution would help,
if you aren't already.

On the other hand, none of the cases that I found had KeyError:
'dev/ttySAC1', so this could be an unrelated new problem.

 Also :
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
 /org/freesmartphone/Usage \
   org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy GPS enabled
   /org/freesmartphone/Usage: SetResourcePolicy failed:
 org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceUnknown (Resource GPS had never been
 registered)

I think this is expected, given that ogpsd has failed to start up.

Regards,
  Neil

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Re: [Shr-User] UBI success story

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Jansa
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 02:37:14PM +0100, Christoph Mair wrote:
  Ah great!, thanks
 Remember that ubi0:rootfs specifies the volume name. The current ubinize.cfg 
 sets this name to om-gta02-rootfs, so change this to ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs

I've removed some UBI debug after max_posedon request and those 2
success stories..

With disabled BGT it seems a bit better also here.

Today I successfully booted ubifs rootfs with Qi too (I'm using 2.6.32,
max_posedon seems happy with standard shr kernel - 2.6.29-rc3). 2.6.32
won't suspend yet (WSOD) but its imho a bit faster.

just after few steps:

1) booting 2.6.32 kernel on uSD
http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/2.6.32/images/om-gta02/
download uImage to /boot 
download modules and untar it to /
update uImage link in /boot

2) flash image
flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6
nandwrite -p /dev/mtd6 shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100105-om-gta02.rootfs.ubi
(almost the same ubinized image will finish build in few mins as
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100105-om-gta02.rootfs.ubi)

3) then test if it works 
ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -O 2048 -m 6
mount -t ubifs ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs /media/om
ls /media/om

3) update Qi with dfu-util
qi built here
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ 
is still using jffs2 in kernel params
but you can you binary from here
http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/om-gta02/qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr0+c38b062a609f1442e6a9e13005cfbdfd59a5ac0d.udfu
or build Qi yourself with bitbake from latest shr/merge branch + this patch:
http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/om-gta02/0014-qi-update-kernel-params-for-ubi-rootfs.patch

4) flash 2.6.32 also to NAND

5) boot it, test it, play with it

max_posedon provided some bonnie++ results from UBI, please run bonnie++
on jffs2 if you have jffs2 partition (bonnie++ is now in shr-unstable feeds).

snip from=http://pastebin.ca/1739342;
r...@localhost / $ bonnie\+\+ -u 0:0
Using uid:0, gid:0.
Writing with putc()...done
Writing intelligently...done
Rewriting...done
Reading with getc()...done
Reading intelligently...done
start 'em...done...done...done...
Create files in sequential order...done.
Stat files in sequential order...done.
Delete files in sequential order...done.
Create files in random order...done.
Stat files in random order...done.
Delete files in random order...done.
Version 1.03c   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input-
--Random-
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block--
--Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP
/sec %CP
localhost  300M  1512  72  4878  60  2696  58  1587  98  5519  96
640.6  96
--Sequential Create-- Random
Create
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read---
-Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
/sec %CP
 16   889  98  2619  99   802  95   883  97 15728  87
640  98
localhost,300M,1512,72,4878,60,2696,58,1587,98,5519,96,640.6,96,16,889,98,2619,99,802,95,883,97,15728,87,640,98

/snip

Cheers,

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Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator

2010-01-05 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 18:55 +0100, Stefan Fröbe wrote:
 Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues
 and changed it in my geocaching patch:
 
 
 change this line in src/gps_functions.c after
 setting global_font_scale to sth like 40:
 
 
 @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw)
   layout  = pango_layout_new (context);
   desc= pango_font_description_new();
   
 - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE);
 + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE *
 global_font_scale /100);
   pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc);
   pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer));
   
 
 
 HTH, Stefan
 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, vancel35 van...@thespazcat.com
 wrote:
 
 I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS
 has increased
 the font size for the speed display on the map screen.  I
 don't need or want
 it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now.  I've looked
 inside the
 TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I
 couldn't see
 any options to set the font size.  Although I have to admit
 that some of the
 config option names are slightly cryptic.
 
 Is there a setting to reduce the font size?
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
 -Laura
 --

This could be a very useful fix!  I am currently rebuilding tangogps but
one thing I am not sure of - where do you after setting
global_font_scale to sth like 40?

I gave feed back to Martin that the digits were too large (the tangogps
developer) about the font size on early versions, but the digits keep
getting bigger each version (it seems :(

Here, many road systems run nw-sw so its real display stealer when
driving. 

BillK






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[SHR-U] Current Profile Settings couldn't connect to FSO

2010-01-05 Thread undrwater

That's what Im seeing in the profile settings window.  Phone does not ring
or vibrate.

Here's possibly relevant output of phoneuid.log:

2010.01.05 21:33:38.079593 [phoneuid]   MESSAGE: Using log level 'INFO'
2010.01.05 21:33:38.118154 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: Loading phoneuid
2010.01.05 21:33:43.928516 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: No speaker value for 
idle
found, using none
2010.01.05 21:33:43.928922 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: No microphone value for
idle found, using none
2010.01.05 21:33:43.979228 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: no vibrator configured 
-
turning vibration off
2010.01.05 21:33:45.085501 [libphone-ui-shr]WARNING: No such file or
directory

I'm up to date on upgrades, and I've tried reinstalling dbus, fso,
libphone-ui, and a few others I don't remember without luck.
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