[SHR-u] Touch screen and AUX button not responding

2010-02-06 Thread Åsmund Stavdahl
When I boot SHR-u, there is no response at all from touch screen and 
AUX. Power button works fine though. Is there any configuration file 
that might cause a problem like this? I recently installed some packages 
(don't remember which ones), so that might have caused the issue.

$cat /etc/version
201002011233

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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:25:11 +1100 Michael Smith  said:

> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:52:24 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> 
> > possible. either way - that says something then about nokia's QA proceedure
> > on the production line :) not good enough. (not for me!)
> 
> Of the two A6 open moko phones I kept, one had the buzzy audio, and
> non-functioning GPS. On the other phone audio and GPS both worked well.
> 
> I have a strong feeling that openmoko knew they were sending me a mix of good
> and bad phones. So they QA does work, but their customer service leaves
> something to be desired.

the qa being talked about here is nokia's, not om's :)

> I like my wife's HTC Magic, running Androd. When I change it will probably be
> to that phone. But for now I am happy with the OM phone I am using.
> 
> I am not a fan of Noika either.
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Michael Smith
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:52:24 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:

> possible. either way - that says something then about nokia's QA proceedure on
> the production line :) not good enough. (not for me!)

Of the two A6 open moko phones I kept, one had the buzzy audio, and 
non-functioning GPS. On the other phone audio and GPS both worked well.

I have a strong feeling that openmoko knew they were sending me a mix of good 
and bad phones. So they QA does work, but their customer service leaves 
something to be desired.

I like my wife's HTC Magic, running Androd. When I change it will probably be 
to that phone. But for now I am happy with the OM phone I am using.

I am not a fan of Noika either.
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:59:19 +1300 Ben Wilson  said:

> maybe, but i think i trust Nokia more than i trust the people involved 
> in getting the units from the factory
> to the users hands. Package could easy have been dropped by a sales 
> person etc.

package undamaged - and padded. even so - if the phone cant survive a drop when
padded by bubblewrap, cardboard, plastic, foam etc. etc. - still says to me
original build quality is bad.

> Ben.
> 
> On 7/02/2010 12:52 p.m., Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:46:04 +1300 Ben Wilson  said:
> >
> > possible. either way - that says something then about nokia's QA proceedure
> > on the production line :) not good enough. (not for me!)
> >
> >
> >> All the people I know who have an n900 love it.
> >> It seems highly likely that his n900 is faulty.
> >>
> >> Ben.
> >>
> >> On 7/02/2010 11:29 a.m., Gennady Kupava wrote:
> >>  
> >>> В Вск, 07/02/2010 в 05:29 +0900, Carsten Haitzler пишет:
> >>>
> >>> [cut]
> >>>
> >>>
>  or get a nokia n900 (though my
>  experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900
>  having bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a
>  phone, 6000km from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a
>  paragon of stability and solid performance compared to the n900 - the
>  n900 would literally crash and restart the whole ui very few minutes or
>  sooner at times, but it'd do this at least 5-10 times per day at a
>  minimum).
> 
>   
> >>> [cut]
> >>>
> >>> Hm, FR seems rock solid after such review.
> >>>
> >>> Gennady
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Ben Wilson
maybe, but i think i trust Nokia more than i trust the people involved 
in getting the units from the factory
to the users hands. Package could easy have been dropped by a sales 
person etc.

Ben.

On 7/02/2010 12:52 p.m., Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:46:04 +1300 Ben Wilson  said:
>
> possible. either way - that says something then about nokia's QA proceedure on
> the production line :) not good enough. (not for me!)
>
>
>> All the people I know who have an n900 love it.
>> It seems highly likely that his n900 is faulty.
>>
>> Ben.
>>
>> On 7/02/2010 11:29 a.m., Gennady Kupava wrote:
>>  
>>> В Вск, 07/02/2010 в 05:29 +0900, Carsten Haitzler пишет:
>>>
>>> [cut]
>>>
>>>
 or get a nokia n900 (though my
 experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900
 having bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a
 phone, 6000km from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a
 paragon of stability and solid performance compared to the n900 - the n900
 would literally crash and restart the whole ui very few minutes or sooner
 at times, but it'd do this at least 5-10 times per day at a minimum).

  
>>> [cut]
>>>
>>> Hm, FR seems rock solid after such review.
>>>
>>> Gennady
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:46:04 +1300 Ben Wilson  said:

possible. either way - that says something then about nokia's QA proceedure on
the production line :) not good enough. (not for me!)

> All the people I know who have an n900 love it.
> It seems highly likely that his n900 is faulty.
> 
> Ben.
> 
> On 7/02/2010 11:29 a.m., Gennady Kupava wrote:
> > В Вск, 07/02/2010 в 05:29 +0900, Carsten Haitzler пишет:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >> or get a nokia n900 (though my
> >> experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900
> >> having bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a
> >> phone, 6000km from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a
> >> paragon of stability and solid performance compared to the n900 - the n900
> >> would literally crash and restart the whole ui very few minutes or sooner
> >> at times, but it'd do this at least 5-10 times per day at a minimum).
> >>  
> > [cut]
> >
> > Hm, FR seems rock solid after such review.
> >
> > Gennady
> >
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Ben Wilson
All the people I know who have an n900 love it.
It seems highly likely that his n900 is faulty.

Ben.

On 7/02/2010 11:29 a.m., Gennady Kupava wrote:
> В Вск, 07/02/2010 в 05:29 +0900, Carsten Haitzler пишет:
>
> [cut]
>
>> or get a nokia n900 (though my
>> experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900 having
>> bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a phone, 6000km
>> from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a paragon of stability
>> and solid performance compared to the n900 - the n900 would literally crash 
>> and
>> restart the whole ui very few minutes or sooner at times, but it'd do this at
>> least 5-10 times per day at a minimum).
>>  
> [cut]
>
> Hm, FR seems rock solid after such review.
>
> Gennady
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-02-06 Thread Ben Wilson
On 30/12/2009 9:30 a.m., Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
>
no i use my Neo1973
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
>
same as above
> What distribution you run most of the time?
>
SHR unstable
> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
>
I'm seriously looking at buying an n900 due to 2G GPRS just being too slow.
>
> Thank you :)
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Вск, 07/02/2010 в 05:29 +0900, Carsten Haitzler пишет:

[cut] 
> or get a nokia n900 (though my
> experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900 having
> bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a phone, 6000km
> from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a paragon of stability
> and solid performance compared to the n900 - the n900 would literally crash 
> and
> restart the whole ui very few minutes or sooner at times, but it'd do this at
> least 5-10 times per day at a minimum).

[cut]

Hm, FR seems rock solid after such review.

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-02-06 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Втр, 29/12/2009 в 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
No, I am understanding and experimenting with kernel, my latest
touchscreen/adc race understanding quest render it unusable for most of
recent time. Also I'm far from finishing userland setup.

> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
No, same reason :(

> What distribution you run most of the time?
Debian/GNU linux

> If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
> over to, and why?
I am using spare phones around :) Openmoko is nice small computer which
can fit all mobile needs it's clear and have software and hardware
upgrade path, I think then I'll finally 'set it up', it will be just
best thing around.

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-02-06 Thread Neil Jerram
On 6 February 2010 21:16, Ed Falk  wrote:
> I bought my Freerunner over a year ago.  On the first boot, it made a
> very loud raucus sound which, as far as I know, blew out the speaker, as
> I have never heard an undistorted sound come out of it. [...]

Hmm, sounds like a few possible hardware issues there.  However...

> Is there a "how to" document on the wiki that might tell someone in my
> shoes how to bring the device up to date so that I can try again?

Step 1: Try turning it on and plugging in the wall charger - to find
out if it is working well enough to get charged up.  (In the early
days, there were serious problems if the battery became completely
empty...)

Step 2: Once fully charged, follow the instructions for flashing and
trying out SHR-Testing.

Regards,
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-02-06 Thread Yogiz
Hi Ed,

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:16:05 -0800
Ed Falk  wrote:

> I bought my Freerunner over a year ago.  On the first boot, it made a 
> very loud raucus sound which, as far as I know, blew out the speaker,
> as I have never heard an undistorted sound come out of it.
If your speaker really is broken, your Freerunner will probably not be
much use as a phone unless you use hands-free with it. I suggest you
install the latest software so you can be sure it's not a software
problem. If it isn't you'll either have to get the speaker repaired or
live without sound.
 
> I discovered that the only way to adjust the volume was to log in 
> remotely and run a command-line volume control application.
SHR is currently the most popular distribution on the Freerunner. The
latest version ships with decent volume defaults and call volume can be
changed during calls. If you want more control, then currently the best
idea is to run alsamixer yes, either remotely or from local terminal.

> I tried to develop a GPS application for it, but GPS would not work
> if there was an SD card installed.
I have not heard of such a problem so if It's not exclusive to your
hardware, it is fixed by now.
 
> The device drew so much power that the battery was only good for an
> hour or so, and the device grew too hot in my hand to hold.
Currently, using the Freerunner as both a phone and a PDA I usually can
go for two days before plugging it in overnight. If I use a lot of GPS
for example, the time is shorter but it's not bad at all and suspending
works very well currently.

> At this point, I realized that the Freerunner was not yet ready for 
> prime time.  I put it back in its box and put the box on a shelf.
> The battery is surely dead by now.
> 
> I hope someday that the software will become mature enough for me to
> try again, but unfortunately, I just don't have the time to work on
> it.
> 
> So no, I'm not still using my Freerunner.
> 
> Is there a "how to" document on the wiki that might tell someone in
> my shoes how to bring the device up to date so that I can try again?
Well, my suggestion would be to start playing around with the latest
SHR-Unstable. You can get the filesystem image and the kernel from
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/. Download
the full-om-gta02.jffs2 and uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin to get the
latest versions. To flash them to your Freerunner you'll need dfu-util.
It's in the repository in Ubuntu so you can just apt-get install it,
if it's not in the repo, you can download it from
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util. It
seems like an old version but I doubt that would be a problem. I
realised that you might be a Windows user, I don't know how you should
flash in that case, maybe someone else can comment. Anyway on Linux, to
make flashing more comfortable, you should also download neotool from
http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool. Just put it somewhere and run it,
it presents a nice GUI for the flashing options. You'll have to select
the rootfs image and kernel images that you downloaded and should
select the jffs2 file and bin file respectively. Then connect your
Freerunner with USB cable and while keeping the top-left button
pressed, press the power button. You should be presented with a boot
menu. Now just start flashing from neotool. Once both images are
copied, which may take quite a while, disconnect and reboot the
Freerunner and SHR should run. I'd suggest you to keep an eye on the
mailing lists to see, when anything new and interesting appears for the
Freerunner, until then just play around with the different software in
the repos and packages all over the net. 

I realise that all this info is already probably written down somewhere
but I had enough time at the moment : ). If there are any other
questions, do ask.

Yogiz

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2010-02-06 Thread Ed Falk
I bought my Freerunner over a year ago.  On the first boot, it made a 
very loud raucus sound which, as far as I know, blew out the speaker, as 
I have never heard an undistorted sound come out of it.

I discovered that the only way to adjust the volume was to log in 
remotely and run a command-line volume control application.

I tried to develop a GPS application for it, but GPS would not work if 
there was an SD card installed.

The device drew so much power that the battery was only good for an hour 
or so, and the device grew too hot in my hand to hold.

At this point, I realized that the Freerunner was not yet ready for 
prime time.  I put it back in its box and put the box on a shelf.  The 
battery is surely dead by now.

I hope someday that the software will become mature enough for me to try 
again, but unfortunately, I just don't have the time to work on it.

So no, I'm not still using my Freerunner.

Is there a "how to" document on the wiki that might tell someone in my 
shoes how to bring the device up to date so that I can try again?

-ed falk

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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Although I am not an official from OM I think I can answer some of  
your questions. See below. If I am wrong, I would be happy to be  
corrected...

BR,
Nikolaus


Am 06.02.2010 um 20:57 schrieb Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano:

> Hi lists,
> hoping that some official OpenMoko employee is still reading this ml  
> i'd
> like to know which are the plans for the future. There will be a  
> GTA03??

No. GTA03 development was cancelled last year in favour of the  
WikiReader.

> If so are you working on it? So, the FR is a good thing, now it's 2
> years old and you know, it has its problems (1024, buzz, glamo,...)  
> so,

These problems are now solved. There are either buzz / 1024 fixes  
around, some companies or nice guys offering them. And recently we  
have started to offer GTA02A7+ (where buzz and 1024 are already  
fixed). This is of course not done by OM, Inc. but others. But does  
that make any difference?

For the GLAMO there has also been much progress. AFAIK, the official  
X.org server now supports it quite well. And the kernel has also been  
accelerated recently.

> i'd like to look forward and get a new wonderful device like this.

There is at least one public project: GTA02-core aiming at new devices  
like this (i.e. free&open smartphone platform). And, I know of at  
least one more project to be announced this year.

> So any news??

Yes, many. But probably not from the sources you have looked at. They  
are not that aggregated and said by an official spokesperson.

So there is no need to wait for OM, Inc. This is also the real benefit  
of that OM did open a lot of information and materials to secure the  
future of the Openmoko movement, even if the company does no longer  
participate. That is probably the best thing that did happen - to  
successfully seed an idea.

> Thanks a lot!
>
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Re: OM future

2010-02-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:57:38 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
 said:

> Hi lists,
> hoping that some official OpenMoko employee is still reading this ml i'd
> like to know which are the plans for the future. There will be a GTA03??

bwahahahahahhaahha heheheheh. you didnt read this list a year or so ago? gta03
was canned? along with most of the company? (or they quit before that). you
missed that bit?

if you are after a gta03/4/5 from openmoko... you are barking up the wrong
tree.

> If so are you working on it? So, the FR is a good thing, now it's 2
> years old and you know, it has its problems (1024, buzz, glamo,...) so,
> i'd like to look forward and get a new wonderful device like this.
> So any news??

openmoko as morphed in a much smaller version of itself and does wikireader.
as such openoko no longer has the money or skills to do phones. it struggled
to manage the freerunner, and that was a every low-tech phone. to do a phone
that is competitive with todays offerings from apple, nokia, htc, samsung, etc.
etc. - you need big money and lots of people. LOTS. just the money to license a
3g module design alone is non-trivial. you are talking  ballpark $100 on
the table (setup license fee for example) just to begin thinking about it - not
to mention needing the skills/people. then there is the rest of the
supply-chain that needs big money and volumes to get what you want. also
needing to do your own modem stack. this is how the big boys do it - thats
why they can cut costs per unit for 3g to a small amount - openmoko can't do
this. yes - u can get modules. they are big (physically and thus make the phone
bulky) and expensive per unit. we are not even discussing the SoC's which don't
come cheap for a modern one (cortex-a8 etc.) unless you buy in volume, and gps,
wifi, screen etc. - the list goes on. 

your best bet is to get either an android pone and try and get normal linux
onto it *or just begin loving android), or get a nokia n900 (though my
experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900 having
bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a phone, 6000km
from home, not to mention that windows 3.1 seems like a paragon of stability
and solid performance compared to the n900 - the n900 would literally crash and
restart the whole ui very few minutes or sooner at times, but it'd do this at
least 5-10 times per day at a minimum). or maybe a palm-pre and hack away at it
with the webos-internals guys as its pretty much openemebdded under the hood
just with palm's webos windowing system ui layer concepts vs x11 like openmoko
and n900.

or... you wait a little bit and see what's around the corner and brewing... and
trust me... stuff *IS* brewing at much bigger device makers than openmoko ever
was - who have the money and people to pull it off. keep your ears peeled.

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OM future

2010-02-06 Thread Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano
Hi lists,
hoping that some official OpenMoko employee is still reading this ml i'd
like to know which are the plans for the future. There will be a GTA03??
If so are you working on it? So, the FR is a good thing, now it's 2
years old and you know, it has its problems (1024, buzz, glamo,...) so,
i'd like to look forward and get a new wonderful device like this.
So any news??

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM

2010-02-06 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Samstag 06 Februar 2010 17:01:26 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> Am 06.02.2010 um 16:53 schrieb Christ van Willegen:
> > Hello Nikolaus,
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> >
> >  wrote:
> >> there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM.
> >
> > Great news!
> >
> > Will this nice guy also be there tomorrow?
> 
> I forgot to ask. But maybe he reads this mail and will answer himself
> tonight.
> 
> > See you tomorrow!
> >
> > Christ van Willegen

If he will be around tomorrow it would be nice, then i would show up after the 
talks of the OpenMoko devroom and the afterwards meetup have finished.

Thomas

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Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end

2010-02-06 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
On 06/02/2010 17:00, Neil Jerram wrote:
> On 6 February 2010 15:54, Xavier Cremaschi  wrote:
>
>> But if you use the speaker (intone, podboy, mplayer...), don't you have
>> sound only in one side (right in your case) ?
>
> I don't use speaker for calls.  The change that I mentioned is only
> for gsmhandset.state, which is only used for phone calls.
>
>   Neil

Forgot my question, it was another problem and the answer is here :
  Differences from Neo 1973
 * There is only 1 (mono) built-in loud speaker (connected to LOUT1) 
instead of 2 (stereo).


Xavier.


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Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end

2010-02-06 Thread Gilles Filippini
Neil Jerram a écrit , Le 06/02/2010 15:51:
> On 2 December 2009 13:47,   wrote:
>>3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 
>> rather than in 2:
>> * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2
>> * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3
...
> So: yes, I can confirm that changing 'Mic Sidetone Mux' from 'Mic 2'
> to 'Right PGA' improves call audio for my callees.  My wife even
> described it as 'quite fine' :-).

+1.

I've been using this setting for one week now and I've the very same
comment from my wife ;) And now I can take a call while being in a noisy
train.

BTW, this is also the default QtMoko setting, where I found it from.

Please, could someone elaborate on *why* it would be to avoid[1] as a
default setting?

Thanks,

_g.

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Re: Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM

2010-02-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 06.02.2010 um 16:53 schrieb Christ van Willegen:

> Hello Nikolaus,
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>  wrote:
>> there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM.
>
> Great news!
>
> Will this nice guy also be there tomorrow?

I forgot to ask. But maybe he reads this mail and will answer himself  
tonight.

>
> See you tomorrow!
>
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Re: Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM

2010-02-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Since we have been asked: this is not the official rework done by  
Handheld Linux (that is a paid rework company in Munich using stereo  
microscopes). I am just forwarding the news. Just go there, look and  
ask. At FOSDEM this is a really "free and open hardware rework".

Tuxbrain is also there, openmoko.fr is there and many others. So you  
can also see the Qi Nanonote and the Sharp Netwalker.

Nikolaus

Am 06.02.2010 um 15:38 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:

> there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM.
>
> Please go to the End of the hallway with the Stands. Opposite of the
> Room 1301 (Sallew Leon Cornil) you will find a booth where Openmokos
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> Soldering Iron waiting for your Openmoko.
>
> Nikolaus
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Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end

2010-02-06 Thread Neil Jerram
On 6 February 2010 15:54, Xavier Cremaschi  wrote:

> But if you use the speaker (intone, podboy, mplayer...), don't you have
> sound only in one side (right in your case) ?

I don't use speaker for calls.  The change that I mentioned is only
for gsmhandset.state, which is only used for phone calls.

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Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end

2010-02-06 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
On 06/02/2010 15:51, Neil Jerram wrote:
> On 2 December 2009 13:47,  wrote:
>>
>> 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 
>> rather than in 2:
>>  * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2
>>  * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3
>
> I just rediscovered this improvement, by playing with alsamixer; then
> found this existing thread by googling.
>
> So: yes, I can confirm that changing 'Mic Sidetone Mux' from 'Mic 2'
> to 'Right PGA' improves call audio for my callees.  My wife even
> described it as 'quite fine' :-).
>
> Regards,
>   Neil
But if you use the speaker (intone, podboy, mplayer...), don't you have 
sound only in one side (right in your case) ?


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Re: Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM

2010-02-06 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hello Nikolaus,

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
 wrote:
> there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM.

Great news!

Will this nice guy also be there tomorrow?

See you tomorrow!

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Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end

2010-02-06 Thread Neil Jerram
On 2 December 2009 13:47,   wrote:
>
>        3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 
> rather than in 2:
>         * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2
>         * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3

I just rediscovered this improvement, by playing with alsamixer; then
found this existing thread by googling.

So: yes, I can confirm that changing 'Mic Sidetone Mux' from 'Mic 2'
to 'Right PGA' improves call audio for my callees.  My wife even
described it as 'quite fine' :-).

Regards,
 Neil

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Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM

2010-02-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM.

Please go to the End of the hallway with the Stands. Opposite of the  
Room 1301 (Sallew Leon Cornil) you will find a booth where Openmokos  
and Nanonotes are shown. And a nice guy is sitting there with  
Soldering Iron waiting for your Openmoko.

Nikolaus





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Re: [shr-t] Importing (vcf) contacts -- again

2010-02-06 Thread Michael Pilgermann
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On 12/17/2009 05:21 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> i am also attempting to import a vcf file into my shrsim.
> for some reason unknown to me pisi wont write any changes to any contact 
> fields.
> example, changing a phone number to add +1 to the phone number field.

This is due to the way, PISI handles conflicts - if a contact entry is
in both data sources, you have to tell PISI how to resolve that:

In the very bottom of PISI GUI you may choose a "conflict mode"; you may
always overwrite one side, ask all the time - it should be self
explaining ...

> 
> but! deleting a contact out of the shrsim and running pisi will re add
> that contact, but none of the phone number modifications.

Yeah, I have this on the todo list already; for now you could use again
"conflict mode" settings; assume you have one "master" side; flush the
other one in the beginning.

> 
> all these modifications are formated just as they should be. some of
> my contacts on the sim already have the +1 in the number. which leads
> me to believe its not a formatting issue.
> 
> along with that, can anyone describe to me why new shr 20091205
> contacts likes to click a contact rather then draggin a contact to
> scroll the list. this is driving me crazy right now trying to scroll
> to the lower contacts.
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Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released

2010-02-06 Thread Petr Vanek
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:40:39 +0100
Patryk Benderz  (PB) wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in


Hi,

could please people stop editing released updates? (meaning adding new
stuff, don't mean fixing links and typos). For example with the 14.
January Update [1] quite a bit of work has been done to make the
release, then we release and know what is in there. Now i can see that
two days after release some stuff was added.

I my case, i had missed those later added news as the release was
final. Plus, there is no source for the news, so in fact there is no
way to know. I presume i am not alone.

thank you
Petr

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-01-14





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