[SHR-t] Some glitches

2010-03-10 Thread Olivier Migeot
I just tried the latest SHR-t version (from early-march). Works like a
charm, but there are a few glitches/questions that might be worth
mentionning :

 * with previous versions, I used to disable the lock screen by
setting the lock timeout to more than the suspend one (like 55
seconds for lock when there's only 30 for suspend). That kind of thing
might be a bad idea in the first place, but what would be the best way
to disable it?
 * GPRS works ... to a point. I can connect through the
SettingsConnectivity panel, and it works like a charm. But once
disconnected, I can't connect back unless I reboot. When I return to
SettingsConnectivity, the GPRS Connection status is UNKNOWN and the
Connect/Disconnect button shows the same UNKNOWN string.
 * I read somewhere that it's not a bug, but is there a way to
re-enable the power-button to suspend-menu behaviour? Because on my
phone, the power button is now only used to un-suspend, and that looks
suboptimal to me.

Just for the records, my phone is a buzz-fixed Freerunner, and the
whole SHR-t 'lite' was installed on the SD card.

Are there other known problems on that version?

-- 
Olivier

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Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

2010-03-10 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Why don't we really combine all efforts instead of making a huge and
 heavy fso which is indeed short of a good phone into something more
 specific and quicker.
IIRC, FSO is pretty quick to start...most of the time spent is for X,
wm, etc (may be udev also plays a role there...I've never

I think it's falling nicely into place. bit by bit the big
python based framework is being replaced by smaller fast lightweight
vala based daemons, the latest reports of running fso-gsmd are very
encouraging - fast, small memory footprint... thanks to Mickey's effort.

Sidetracking a bit, but imho i am not so much looking to the stable
party as i am really looking forward to have fso-gsmd and new opimd
(have since yesterday) running in my phone. i hope to see increase of
speed and performance especially during startup, but not only.

And i think yes, the FSO team is open to patches... :)

my 2cents only...

Petr


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Re: [SHR-t] Some glitches

2010-03-10 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:29:27 +0100
Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com (OM) wrote:

I just tried the latest SHR-t version (from early-march). Works like a

great :)

 * with previous versions, I used to disable the lock screen by
setting the lock timeout to more than the suspend one (like 55
seconds for lock when there's only 30 for suspend). That kind of thing
might be a bad idea in the first place, but what would be the best way
to disable it?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#idle_screen

 * GPRS works ... to a point. I can connect through the
SettingsConnectivity panel, and it works like a charm. But once
disconnected, I can't connect back unless I reboot. When I return to
SettingsConnectivity, the GPRS Connection status is UNKNOWN and the
Connect/Disconnect button shows the same UNKNOWN string.

this is an race condition in FSO and will be (hopefully) gone after the
fso-gsmd is in place.


 * I read somewhere that it's not a bug, but is there a way to
re-enable the power-button to suspend-menu behaviour? Because on my
phone, the power button is now only used to un-suspend, and that looks
suboptimal to me.


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Power_Button

cheers

Petr


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Re: [Shr-User] New poll about OS

2010-03-10 Thread Marko Knöbl
 The poll will be closed monday 8 march 2010, 07:00 UTC+01:00
This date has passed. What about the results?

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Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Jerram
On 10 March 2010 05:58, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why don't we really combine all efforts instead of making a huge and heavy
 fso

As others have replied, I don't think it's true that FSO is huge and
heavy - at least, not in a practical sense, because it is nicely
divided into separate functions, and you can disable any parts of it
that you don't want.

For example, my personal intuitions are that opimd shouldn't be
middleware, and maybe not oeventsd and opreferencesd either; and that
ogpsd and otimed should be just gpsd and ntpd.  But that's all fine,
because I can just disable those pieces (as and when I sort out my
thinking and any replacements that are needed).

What does that leave?  ogsmd, odeviced and ousaged - which are all
crucial, and I have no reason to believe that they're unnecessarily
heavy.  IIUC, Neophysis uses odeviced and ousaged (or the fso*
equivalents), and just replaces [fs]ogsmd with ofono.

 on speed and reliability of operations we do. I don't think I would like to
 use a phone which takes 5 min to boot up, 3 min to start an app and crashes
 very frequently.

FWIW, that doesn't sound like my FSO-based phone.

 I would love to start from scratch and clean up all the
 mess. I don't think these guys have anything against fso but I'm sure they
 felt the same as many other Freerunner users.
 I don't mean to ridicule your efforts on fso all I want to say is it can be
 quicker and better if you don't plan on supporting everything possible
 (qt,gtk,enlightenment)  even if you do not everything all together ,
 different flavors of fso might help better.

I think this is all just FUD, isn't it?  If there's a specific point
in here, please point it out.  In particular, note that the FSO API
has nothing to do with what desktop environment you're using.

 I really wish fso reaches its goal but still while giving usable images as
 it goes.

Me too.  It already does enough to make me a happy phone user.  Of
course there are remaining issues, but progress is being made on
those, and I would be very surprised if the oFono stack is able to
catch up and overtake FSO, because it is inevitable that oFono will
encounter difficult issues too.

Regards,
  Neil

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