Re: tangoGPS is a very successful user orienteted map and gps viewer

2010-04-12 Thread Yorick Moko
very good idea! On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Reminds me of the following feature request: > when downloading levels N...N+4 (or 5, 6, younameit), please also > download all the levels above (it's a negligible fraction of the > corresponding disk space and network bandw

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Rasterman! We do go back a long way, don't we? And don't worry...even though I know a bit about the X Window System, I bow to you for the real bit-jamming. >all the players are closed with no signs of going open - unless you >(maddog) can convince them? It won't be me who "convinces them"..

drm/glamo Re: glamo backlight

2010-04-12 Thread mobi phil
fyi: after successful booting and running the gdrm-waitq example I got on the log: glamo-drm: Fence seq#157 was not signalled (with increasing #ref numbers) and usb network seems to be frozen after second reboot and running intensive directfb test applications problem cannot be reproduced..

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:08:08 -0400 "Jon 'maddog' Hall" said: yo maddog!! btw - before i launch in... i'm biased towards maddog - he's always been a well intentioned chap at a minimum, if not and experienced and seasoned veteran who really cares about open - in my experience that has been open so

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:52:03 -0300 Werner Almesberger said: > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > too late for that. the others are in on the game. and now being "open > > enough" is all that's needed. window of opportunity for om and the likes > > has closed - or at the best is very close to closed. >

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0300 Werner Almesberger said: > Christoph Pulster wrote: > > Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary > > which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. > > I think it's Sao Paulo you're talking about. USP never promised to

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
Now it's just getting silly. > So when you use Google it is okay and when I use Google it is a > personal attack? Hey, you are such a cutie :-) You're just twisting words and sidestepping arguments. You used Google to specifically try and prove that I don't know what I'm talking about. You're tur

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:19:25 -0400 Stephen Pape wrote: > Okay. I'm not sure what you're getting at, or why you're completely > changing the subject to make a personal attack on me over an argument > involving software development practices. So when you use Google it is okay and when I use Google

Re: how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello Rui, you certainly know that I value your opinion a lot. Just the other day there was a storm going on about a remark of Scott James Remnant from Ubuntu who is an outstanding developer, very much committed to advancing Ubuntu. People who have never done any contribution flooded the bugzil

Re: glamo backlight

2010-04-12 Thread mobi phil
> The correct full sysfs location for JBT should be: > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/lcd/jbt6k74-lcd/ . Getting the "not > initialised" message indicates that the correct code is compiled into > the kernel at least (the message is generated by the JBT driver, and > the Glamo driver won't compile wit

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Christoph Pulster wrote: > Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary > which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. I think it's Sao Paulo you're talking about. USP never promised to continue the project (even though the press may have mis-interpreted th

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
Okay. I'm not sure what you're getting at, or why you're completely changing the subject to make a personal attack on me over an argument involving software development practices. I haven't been very active with openmoko, so I guess that makes anything I say invalid? And you're the one complaining

Re: how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi Marcus, Reading your comments, I'd say you're quickly running several steps of "How to destroy your community" - http://lwn.net/Articles/370157/ I won't go into the details of listing which is which, and please note that my felling on that is *PURELY* based upon your emails and not on what oth

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Hello Christoph, >Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary >which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. As far as I know the University still stands ready and willing to help with the GTA02-core project as soon as that is ready to move forward. Profes

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hi Stephen, thanks for your feedback - especially as you are a programmer as you once stated on the openmoko mailing list [1]. On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:36:38 -0400 Stephen Pape wrote: > but I couldn't find any useful results with Google. Dang! I have exactly the same problem when trying to fi

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Carsten Haitzler wrote: > too late for that. the others are in on the game. and now being "open enough" > is all that's needed. window of opportunity for om and the likes has closed - > or at the best is very close to closed. I think the advantage is still there, it's just harder to communicate. A

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
> I do not always have time to work on tangoGPS and still can do a > constant flow of new features. You are a funny man - big scandale that > not all my brain activity is monitorable :) I know that RMS would like > to enclose all software developers in a gulag with constant thought > monitoring - y

[shr-u] key bindings

2010-04-12 Thread jeremy jozwik
can someone running shr-u greater then 20100306 please print there key binding action params from illum2? my power key has been altered and i would like to get the default action parms back. thank you to anyone who can do this for me. ___ Openmoko commu

Re: tangoGPS is a very successful user orienteted map and gps viewer

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
Reminds me of the following feature request: when downloading levels N...N+4 (or 5, 6, younameit), please also download all the levels above (it's a negligible fraction of the corresponding disk space and network bandwidth anyway). I.e. instead of "downloads N to N+4", it should be "download levels

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:02:05 -0400 Stephen Pape wrote: > "Aces" in your sleeve? You mean you're keeping the development process > intentionally closed to discourage forkers? What? I happily explain it again to you: forks are potentially damaging to any project. Here and actually only here on ope

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
"Aces" in your sleeve? You mean you're keeping the development process intentionally closed to discourage forkers? What? There's no reason you can't have a public SVN with read only access to everyone except your chosen few. Google code or sourceforge would work fine. Why does all this discussion

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:19:43 -0300 Werner Almesberger said: > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > day. openmoko never made it to be big enough to continue - and ye once you > > get big enough, the kind of thing you talk about no longer make business > > sense (as you are busy shopping around to telcos wh

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:32:59 +0200 Stefan Fröbe wrote: > I guess with those prerequisites I won't make any geocaching > submission soon > - while all the features are usable as long as you have obtained a > GPX file with all the data, the conversion to an sqlite3 db is done > on the CLI with (one

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Carsten Haitzler wrote: > day. openmoko never made it to be big enough to continue - and ye once you get > big enough, the kind of thing you talk about no longer make business sense (as > you are busy shopping around to telcos who will order millions of devices). > catch 22 :-S This is where an Op

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > In business strategy planning it is quite common to separate e.g. > "consumer", "project", "service", "solution" business types and > markets because they have quite different requirements and attitudes Yes, I was familiar with the concept but I didn't know

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Marcus Bauer : > Essentially it is the constant threads about forks that have been > started and fuelled over and over again by Risto that keep me having > always a few aces in my sleeve and restricting access to people who I > have confidence that they keep the project over their ego. I

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi Marcus, I guess with those prerequisites I won't make any geocaching submission soon - while all the features are usable as long as you have obtained a GPX file with all the data, the conversion to an sqlite3 db is done on the CLI with (one call to) bash/python scripts. Looking at gpxview [1],

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hi Stefan before it gets lost in all the other discussions: I'd still be happy to integrate this. Remarks: * it must be usable for people that have not signed for the 30$ premium account * everything must work from the user interface, command line is not an option * no python dependency

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:47:55 +0300 Timo Jyrinki wrote: > I wouldn't mind if there was an unofficial, non-endorsed version > control system and mailing list as well. Essentially it is the constant threads about forks that have been started and fuelled over and over again by Risto that keep me hav

how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:19:26 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: [...] Let me summarize: * you are well aware that forks are potentially damaging * you wrote one patch that was not accepted * now you spread fud and threaten to damage the tangoGPS project Well okay, you certainly have the freed

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Joshua Judson Rosen : > So, how *should* I collaborate? What mailing-list should I use? > When I fix an upstream bug, in what BTS should I publish the patch? > Where can we talk on IRC about current developments in tangoGPS, > if anywhere? I agree. After my second translation patch (fixi

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On 09 Apr 2010 12:37:00 +0200 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) said: > > Perhaps I should clarify that I don't mean to make fun of your > > situation. We're all in the same boat here. > > No problem Werner, all your optinions and comments are very welcome. > As you already said, companiess

Re: qualitiy is important for tangoGPS

2010-04-12 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Sunday 11 April 2010 19:42:23 Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:29:15 +0200 > Sander van Grieken wrote: > > No. Just email your patches to Marcus Bauer. Expect no reply nor use > > of patches. > > > > But, you don't have the right to complain. You have the right to > > fork, though.

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi, as I recently struggled with the same issues I'd like to comment on some of the suggestions On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > ... Most importantly: How should I keep up with work that you're doing > upstream between releases? Maintaining the patches that I use is v

Re: tangoGPS and good user experience

2010-04-12 Thread Gilles Filippini
Marcus Bauer a écrit , Le 11/04/2010 22:07: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:01:23 +0200 > Gilles Filippini wrote: >> BTW I've found gpsd upstream very responsive each time I've submitted >> a bug to them. > > Currently there are 5 different GPS API's > > * gpsd old (pre 2.92) > * gpsd new > * Maemo