Re: GTA02 for sale on ebay, currently going for $20

2013-01-02 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Sunday 30 December 2012 20:41:19 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak va escriure:
 GTA01 does not have WiFi, GTA02 does. I don't know about GTA01 (it's
 probably the same, but I'm not sure)

The GTA01 must have the battery when powered by USB ONLY the GTA02 can powered 
by usb without battery

 , but you can power GTA02 from USB
 without battery (on early models, GTA02A5, you need to have battery on
 boot - after that you can remove it), but GSM modem won't work when
 powered by USB, because it's connected directly to the battery.
 


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Re: GTA02 for sale on ebay, currently going for $20

2013-01-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org writes:
 The GTA01 must have the battery when powered by USB ONLY the GTA02 can
 powered by usb without battery

GTA02 GSM does not work without a battery though.

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GTA02 boot without battery

2013-01-02 Thread Benjamin Deering
My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is 
getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my 
hifi wirelessly.  I would like to remove the battery from this phone 
once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up 
another battery for long trips.


Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix.  It sounds like A7 had a change 
to allow it to boot without a battery.  Does anyone know what the change 
is and if it is something I could apply myself?   I am going to be doing 
the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time.


Thanks,

Ben

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Re: GTA02 boot without battery

2013-01-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 02.01.2013 um 13:30 schrieb Benjamin Deering:

 My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting 
 a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi 
 wirelessly.  I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is 
 set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up another battery for 
 long trips.
 
 Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix.  It sounds like A7 had a change to 
 allow it to boot without a battery.  Does anyone know what the change is and 
 if it is something I could apply myself?   I am going to be doing the 
 bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time.

I think it is  C1767 on page 4:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf


 
 Thanks,
 
 Ben
 
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Re: GTA02 boot without screen

2013-01-02 Thread rhn
On Wednesday 02 of January 2013 07:30:44 Benjamin Deering wrote:
 My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is 
 getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my 
 hifi wirelessly.  I would like to remove the battery from this phone 
 once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up 
 another battery for long trips.
 
 Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix.  It sounds like A7 had a change 
 to allow it to boot without a battery.  Does anyone know what the change 
 is and if it is something I could apply myself?   I am going to be doing 
 the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ben
 

Hi Ben,

I'm interested in how you got the board to boot and be accessible from outside 
without a screen.
Some time ago my GTA02 was dunked in water and that broke its screen. After 
reflashing SHR, I wasn't able to access it in any way because the screen was 
required to finish setup.
What distribution did you use?

Cheers,
rhn

P.S. If anyone's interested in the device, feel free to contact me.

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Re: Wanted: GTAxx with Wifi and RS-232

2013-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
Hi Troy,

On 30 December 2012 21:08, Troy Benjegerdes ho...@hozed.org wrote:
 I can do this with a GTA02 (wifi built-in, and USB-host mode), or *maybe*

 My per-unit budget for the hardware is between $50 (bare GTA) and
 $150 (GTA running my python code with wifi and rs232)

Does this mean that you would give me $150 for my GTA02? Are you
US-based? Would you pay postage from Germany?

Regards

Jeff

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Re: Wanted: GTAxx with Wifi and RS-232

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Darwin
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 05:17:16PM +0100, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
 Hi Troy,
 
 On 30 December 2012 21:08, Troy Benjegerdes ho...@hozed.org wrote:
  I can do this with a GTA02 (wifi built-in, and USB-host mode), or *maybe*
 
  My per-unit budget for the hardware is between $50 (bare GTA) and
  $150 (GTA running my python code with wifi and rs232)
 
 Does this mean that you would give me $150 for my GTA02? Are you
 US-based? Would you pay postage from Germany?

I wouldn't think so, or he or somebody would have bid my GTA02 on
eBay higher than $50. I wouldn't expect to get more than $50 fo a
GTA02, unless it's brand new in sealed box or it has the fancy black
penguin case or something. Everyone knows that GTA02 has WiFi and
USB, and can hang a USB-Serial dongle onto it.

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Re: Wanted: GTAxx with Wifi and RS-232

2013-01-02 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 11:23:38AM -0500, Ian Darwin wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 05:17:16PM +0100, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
  Hi Troy,
  
  On 30 December 2012 21:08, Troy Benjegerdes ho...@hozed.org wrote:
   I can do this with a GTA02 (wifi built-in, and USB-host mode), or *maybe*
  
   My per-unit budget for the hardware is between $50 (bare GTA) and
   $150 (GTA running my python code with wifi and rs232)
  
  Does this mean that you would give me $150 for my GTA02? Are you
  US-based? Would you pay postage from Germany?
 
 I wouldn't think so, or he or somebody would have bid my GTA02 on
 eBay higher than $50. I wouldn't expect to get more than $50 fo a
 GTA02, unless it's brand new in sealed box or it has the fancy black
 penguin case or something. Everyone knows that GTA02 has WiFi and
 USB, and can hang a USB-Serial dongle onto it.

... I should have bid on the ebay one ;)

The $150 would be total budget for something (including shipping) 
that you've personally tested works with the python code I'm currently
running on a desktop that uploads to http://emoncms.org.

For something that has working wifi, and a USB-serial dongle that 
you have *tested*, that's in the $100 USD neighborhood.

I'd say $50-$75 for a GTA02 without USB-serial, but working wifi.

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Re: Wanted: GTAxx with Wifi and RS-232

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Darwin
  I wouldn't think so, or he or somebody would have bid my GTA02 on
  eBay higher than $50. I wouldn't expect to get more than $50 fo a
  GTA02, unless it's brand new in sealed box or it has the fancy black
  penguin case or something. Everyone knows that GTA02 has WiFi and
  USB, and can hang a USB-Serial dongle onto it.
 
 ... I should have bid on the ebay one ;)

You snooze, you lose :-)

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TV-Out was: Re: Happy New Year!

2013-01-02 Thread arne anka

What would be great is if we have a TV out and an HDMI out from the phone
with two USB sockets so that it can also be used as a generic computer.


from the description i've got the impression that the gta04 supports  
tv-out via the audio connector.


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Re: GTA02 boot without screen

2013-01-02 Thread Benjamin Deering

On 01/02/2013 08:45 AM, rhn wrote:

On Wednesday 02 of January 2013 07:30:44 Benjamin Deering wrote:

My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is
getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my
hifi wirelessly.  I would like to remove the battery from this phone
once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up
another battery for long trips.

Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix.  It sounds like A7 had a change
to allow it to boot without a battery.  Does anyone know what the change
is and if it is something I could apply myself?   I am going to be doing
the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time.

Thanks,

Ben


Hi Ben,

I'm interested in how you got the board to boot and be accessible from outside 
without a screen.
Some time ago my GTA02 was dunked in water and that broke its screen. After 
reflashing SHR, I wasn't able to access it in any way because the screen was 
required to finish setup.
What distribution did you use?

Cheers,
rhn

P.S. If anyone's interested in the device, feel free to contact me.
I haven't tried my bare board yet.  My plan was to get wifi, avahi, and 
pulseaudio all starting automatically on the complete phone, then try 
the SD card in the bare board.

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Re: GTA02 boot without battery

2013-01-02 Thread robin
hi ben,

sounds like a very interesting and useful project for an old freerunner board. 
Do you have a blog set up to follow your steps/success? that would be great.

best regards and happy new year you and this extremely innovative community!

robin


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29C3 presentation on making a calypso phone act as a GSM base station

2013-01-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi,

in case somebody missed it I highly recommend watching

http://ftp.ccc.de/congress/29C3/mp4-h264-HQ/29c3-5226-en-further_hacks_calypso_h264.mp4

that shows how a cheap motorola phone with Calypso can be made to appear
as a GSM base station without any hardware modifications. Very
interesting proof of concept :)

-Timo

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