Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Pascal Gosselin
On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: . I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in March 2015. Here's my take on this: My particular vertical market need is for a very small computer that: -Boots up upon

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
are you using your FR because it's free or because it's a smartphone? I don't really use my FR for the following reasons: - I don't use its phone part because it's not Free (I guess by now I could try to use your firmware to fix that part) and because I don't like the idea of being actively

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 07:31:52PM +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw escribió: g...@unixarea.de wrote: I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this list who is doing so. Nick

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Hey, I don't talk on phone. I just don't talk. I chat. I email. That's why I don't need a dumbphone. I need a device with a full operating system so I can compile my preferred applications for it. If I need a gsm then I need it to get an Internet connection. Then I can use ssl/tor for

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 13:40 schrieb Neal H. Walfield n...@walfield.org: At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 there is no 1. What makes the difference? Some investor (Ubuntu) did cover

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
Hi *, I think it's difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy an old casing first of being able to use the new hardware also, old casings are a limited resource and are awful to look compared to newer and slimmer styles moreover the old casings eventually need to be modified

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Nick
Quoth g...@unixarea.de: I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this list who is doing so. I am too. The only thing that makes me tempted to switch phones is redphone or chatsecure, basically. The

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, I had not planned to make it a statement-reply session, but it has converted into one :) Am 16.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it: Hi *, I think it’s difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy an old casing first of being able to use the new

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Ed, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:58 schrieb Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org: SNIP Interesting. Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the GTA04A5? Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 16 March 2015 10:43:51 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Our key problem is that we don’t have a big budget to spend for a new GTA05 that can compete with others. The Neo900 UG long term business plan has perspectives to change that, eventually :-) cheers jOERG -- () ascii ribbon

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 there is no 1. What makes the difference? Some investor (Ubuntu) did cover the risk of buying the first set of thousands of eggs and was able to get

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 16.03.2015 um 15:38 schrieb Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it: Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right from the beginning (and therefore still is) to give those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some newer peripherals.

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right from the beginning (and therefore still is) to give those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some newer peripherals. Like a replacement motor for an old car. I know, and also for me it's

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Francesco De Vita
Hi I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this list who is doing so. I will continue using the GTA02 until finaly breaks something, display or board, and will hope to update it. How and when such

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 16 March 2015 22:00:42 Pascal Gosselin wrote: On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: . I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in March 2015. Here's my take on this: My particular vertical market need

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Spacefalcon the Outlaw
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I do not exactly know what a 'smartphone' is. Harald Welte gave a clear technical definition in one of his presentations: a smartphone is a phone that has two separate processors for the application and baseband functions. It's a clear technical

OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I saw on the net a video about the BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s (english 40min) Jono Bacon, former Ubuntu Community Manager, shares a video with a detailed review and demo of the new bq Aquaris E4.5, complete with commentary on the wider scopes

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Kapitein
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:31 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I saw on the net a video about the BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s (english 40min) Jono Bacon, former Ubuntu Community Manager, shares a video with a detailed review and demo of the

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread guru
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 09:34:37AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escribió: Thanks for the info. I did order the ubuntu phone and can't wait to test it out! Me too on March 12 in the flash sell. The money is already cut from my credit card, so there is hope that I will

Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Spacefalcon the Outlaw
g...@unixarea.de wrote: I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this list who is doing so. Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk followed: I am too. The only thing that makes me tempted to switch

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at the end of the day a X11 server or something else? It moves so smoothly.

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:00 schrieb Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at the

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Kapitein
SNIP Interesting. Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the GTA04A5? Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in March 2015. BR, Nikolaus Hi Nikolaus, A couple of