Re: State of FreeCalypso
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: I disagree. The same pathological need still seems very much present. And the emphasis here is on the pathological. In your emails to this list, there is still a very strong strain of psychological disequilibrium and this is a bad thing, for the list, the wider community and for you. So what exactly do YOU seek to accomplish by deconstructing my motivations for working on the FreeCalypso project? Suppose you succeeded in convincing me to either drop the project or take it underground to where you'll never hear about it again - how would such a change benefit you or the wider community? On the other hand, you're saying that the only reason you need a mobile phone is to contact your loved ones. I don't understand why you can't use a land line with a firmware-less handset. I need *them* to be able to contact *me* freely while I roam around a rather large geographical area. The fact that you're currently using a mobile phone with a proprietary firmware without threatening to murder people shows that there's some contradictions in what you're saying. No act of murder would free my Pirelli DP-L10 from its proprietary fw, so I don't see why I should be threatening to murder anyone. The only thing that would indeed free my phone from proprietary fw is technical development work on my own FreeCalypso project, which I need to get back to. VLR, SF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: As I said, perhaps I can help you to achieve some peace. Your help in that department is unwelcome and unwanted. I kindly ask that you please stop your unwelcome intrusion into my personal life. However, an absence of your writings on this list would benefit me and the wider community in that in would elevate the environment to a more peaceful one. There are Freerunner and other phone users here who do appreciate hearing about progress made toward freedom-enabling phone firmware and hardware. So you'll just have to deal with it. Your emails are a mix of technical content and symptoms of your personal psychological problems. I am interested ONLY in the former. Since your thread is completely devoid of technical content, I am not interested in continuing it. The latter has a negative impact on the community. If your emails were technical content alone, there would be no problem. They *are* technical content alone when read without trolling intent. It is *your* choice to dig out a few occasional words which you don't like and use them as a justification to hijack a technical post and turn it into a lengthy non-technical noise thread. Unfortunately, free firmware in your phone won't actually bring you peace like you think it will. Whether it does or not is *absolutely* *none* *of* *your* *business*. SF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Wed, 2015-04-22 at 15:42 +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: I disagree. The same pathological need still seems very much present. And the emphasis here is on the pathological. In your emails to this list, there is still a very strong strain of psychological disequilibrium and this is a bad thing, for the list, the wider community and for you. So what exactly do YOU seek to accomplish by deconstructing my motivations for working on the FreeCalypso project? As I said, perhaps I can help you to achieve some peace. When one person achieves some peace, we all benefit. Suppose you succeeded in convincing me to either drop the project or take it underground to where you'll never hear about it again - how would such a change benefit you or the wider community? My concern is not to convince you to drop the project or take it underground. I don't know where you got that idea from. However, an absence of your writings on this list would benefit me and the wider community in that in would elevate the environment to a more peaceful one. Let me pick out some of the individual key words which you've written recently and which I quoted in my last email: peasant unpaid only one hardship unprivileged nobody kidnap torture kill life-sacrifice hurt torture painful These words are not exactly uplifting. One doesn't need to be a psychiatrist to see that there some deep problems you're grappling with. You may not recognise or acknowledge those problems. You may not acknowledge that others can see the symptoms but we can. Your emails are a mix of technical content and symptoms of your personal psychological problems. The latter has a negative impact on the community. If your emails were technical content alone, there would be no problem. Unfortunately, free firmware in your phone won't actually bring you peace like you think it will. Because as soon as you got that phone, it would become clear that you're still bound by the proprietary firmware running on every GSM base station. And once you'd solved that problem, you'd go on to the next piece of proprietary firmware like the VGABIOS in your graphics card or the controller firmware on your hard disk. The phone is not the problem. The base station and laptop and hard disk are not the problem. The problem is within you, within your mind. You're not at peace. Unfortunately, there are no screws to tighten and no code to patch to fix your mind. On the other hand, you're saying that the only reason you need a mobile phone is to contact your loved ones. I don't understand why you can't use a land line with a firmware-less handset. I need *them* to be able to contact *me* freely while I roam around a rather large geographical area. Why? What is so important about needing a mobile phone for immediate contact? As I see it, the choices you had in the past were: 1) Let your family know the nearest landline you can be contacted on as you move around. 2) Use a phone with proprietary firmware. 3) Threaten murder. For some reason, you chose to threaten murder. Why? The fact that you're currently using a mobile phone with a proprietary firmware without threatening to murder people shows that there's some contradictions in what you're saying. No act of murder would free my Pirelli DP-L10 from its proprietary fw, How would murder have freed your Openmoko phone from its proprietary fw? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
As this thread/threat has not much to do with Openmoko, could you please move this away from this list, talk off-list about or create somewhere another mailing list for this idea. Thanks in advance matthias (long term user on GTA-02) -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: GSM What is it about GSM that would make you move across the world just to use it? Do your family and friends feel the same way about GSM? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 21:28 +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: Because I use one to stay in touch with the people who matter in my life What would be the consequences if you didn't have a mobile phone to do that? I consider this status quo to be a very poor state of affairs That doesn't sound like a particularly grave consequence. Feeling that something is a very poor state of affairs doesn't seem like motivation for threatening murder. True. However, there's a very big difference between deriving satisfaction from doing worthwhile work and being pathologically dependant on it. I don't know any other free software developers who threaten to murder those who get in the way of their work. It looks like for you, the work isn't done just for satisfaction, it looks like a need. The need I had at that time has been satisfied, hence there is nothing relevant to the present in need of discussion here. I disagree. The same pathological need still seems very much present. And the emphasis here is on the pathological. In your emails to this list, there is still a very strong strain of psychological disequilibrium and this is a bad thing, for the list, the wider community and for you. On the one hand you're saying that your phone work is so important that your life withered away for two years because of it, and that it justifies threatening murder. On the other hand, you're saying that the only reason you need a mobile phone is to contact your loved ones. I don't understand why you can't use a land line with a firmware-less handset. The fact that you're currently using a mobile phone with a proprietary firmware without threatening to murder people shows that there's some contradictions in what you're saying. Either you're full of shit, or you're not aware that there are contradictions. Assuming you're not full of shit, examining the contradictions and making them conscious can help to resolve the internal conflicts which give rise to your dysfunctional behaviour. Of course, if you are full of shit then there's a whole other set of internal conflicts to deal with. You asked me how you torture yourself now. I'm trying to answer that question. In doing so, it's possible that the dysfunctional content of your regular expositions on this list can be resolved and we can all live more peacefully, including yourself. I'll provide you with some examples so that you're aware of what is inappropriate. Some of these are quite innocuous statements by themselves but their inappropriate nature becomes clear when seen as part of a pathological pattern: On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 06:15 +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: my old peasant mind it has occupied me on and off (unpaid volunteer time is naturally limited) for a year and a half now Unfortunately there is only one of me The amount that's been raised ... will certainly help relieve my and Shannon's current severe hardship On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 17:41 +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: unprivileged persons like me nobodies like me there is no longer any need for me to kidnap, torture or kill anyone there is no more need to resort to life-sacrifice means On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 21:32 +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: your former coworkers who badly hurt me the 2 years of mental TORTURE you put me through the painful 2 y long episode ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community