Re: Bluetooth, WiFi, Australian Market

2006-11-30 Thread Joel Newkirk
Ben wrote: I'm not sure what it's like in the rest of the world, but in Australia the price of mobile data (ie. GPRS/3G/etc.) is incredibly high. Relying on GPRS or quad band based methods of data access and synchronisation would push the phone into the too expensive category for many. I'm

Re: multicolour multi-touch screen Re: OpenMoko/Neo1973 is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you recognized the power of multi-touch gesture recognition

2006-11-30 Thread Alexander Steinert
Robert Michel, Wed 2006-11-29 20:02 CET No keystroke at all - using just the different color points - areas and use the combinatoric - 10 colour points without different areas would give the power of 10! = 3.628.800 combinations more areas would give more power - so it would become

openmoko as a slimserver client or remote control

2006-11-30 Thread Stefanie Tellex
This requires wireless internet, but it wouldn't be hard to get a slimserver client running on the phone, so you could stream your mp3s to the phone and listen to them. Push a button, and your phone starts streaming music from your server. Slimp3slave is a command line client using the old udp

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-30 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 11/30/06, Selem Delul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia did it. (http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Mobile_Web_Server ) So yeah, it is possible. They are using a gateway to translate an url to your phone's web server (and i guess they are using it to communicate with the phone which is

Re: Software Development

2006-11-30 Thread Terrence
The Java Mobile Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org) is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko. -- Terrence Terrence Barr Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded Community Sun Microsystems, Germany www.mobileandembedded.org Stuart Gray wrote: I don't think it has been asked

Re: Software Development

2006-11-30 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terrence schreef: The Java Mobile Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org) is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko. You can start right now by adding phoneme and javac to openembedded (www.openembedded.org), which would make

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas MARCHESSEAU
Hi all, did you check www.simore.ch ? its a great system to put 2 sim card in one slot. i got one, it works fine (*) on most of standard handset but not very well my wistron ( a linux phone ) i must reboot to change number. (*)unfortunatly, you cant use 2 numbers at the same time, because

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 11/30/06 7:42 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you remind us ;)) that dual-sim is an intereting feature and Sean still haven'd answerd: #Will the Neo1973 support dual-SIM with SPST?#

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas MARCHESSEAU
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 11/30/06 7:42 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you remind us ;)) that dual-sim is an intereting feature and Sean still haven'd answerd: #Will the Neo1973 support dual-SIM with SPST?#

Text entry

2006-11-30 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Thursday 30 November 2006 00:17, Alexander Steinert scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: What do you think about T9? Touching instead pressing keys could speed up the process noticable. And the user has the option to fit the geometry of keys to his fingers. Another option is

Re: Software Development

2006-11-30 Thread Terrence
Koen, Interesting, thanks. We'll have a look at it. -- Terrence Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terrence schreef: The Java Mobile Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org) is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko. You can start right

Mesh networking with Openmoko

2006-11-30 Thread Evgeny
Hello Thanks for releasing such a good alternative phone. After WiFi enter in the picture in v2 (crossed fingers), Neo1973 platform will turn most suitable piece of hardware to run some kind of mesh networking protocol. I'll try Netsukuku http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/ Some reasons pro:

Re: Mesh networking with Openmoko

2006-11-30 Thread michael
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Evgeny wrote: Hello Thanks for releasing such a good alternative phone. After WiFi enter in the picture in v2 (crossed fingers), Neo1973 platform will turn most suitable piece of hardware to run some kind of mesh networking protocol. Very clever idea. I look forward to

Re: 23C3 27.-30.12. 2006 Berlin -- Chaos Computer Club conference with interesting program ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
My health permitting (I have a hell of a stomach flu at the moment), I'll be in Berlin for the 23c3, if anyone of you want to meet Harald and me for an OpenMoko Q/A and brainstorming session, I'm all ears. Regards, :M: -- Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de

Re: (re)charging control

2006-11-30 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 21:43, Stefan Schmidt wrote: Personally I would even like a dock/craddle. 1. It should have connector for both, charging and data. (Should be no problem at the neo as it charges over usb.) 2. Slot for second battery charging. 3. It should be robust.

Re: Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 20:20 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: any spare(ish) cycles you have I'd vote for using them to put up a basic community wiki - makes it easier for project ideas to get off the ground when there's a common source for information, not least with relation to the ability to

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 11:51 -0700, Jeff Andros wrote: It almost sounds like we should make a plugin framework for availability detection, with plugins for the light sensor, PIM calendar, microphone (can we set an interrupt if the ADC receives a level greater than X?) and so on and so forth as

A plea for reasonable thread names (was RE: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for anapplication for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicatinginfo on phone

2006-11-30 Thread Ken Yale
Hello, The thread name: RE: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for anapplication for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicatinginfo on phone is too long, and has drifted from the point. Can you rename the thread when appropriate, and shorten it,

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Alexander Steinert
Ivan Lucas, Thu 2006-11-30 23:34 CET Talking about using the Microphone as a sensor reminded me of an idea I had some time ago, I'm regularly in noisy places such as crowded railway stations or bars. Wouldn't it be good if the neo1973 could check the ambient noise level before it started

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Alexander Steinert wrote: Ivan Lucas, Thu 2006-11-30 23:34 CET Talking about using the Microphone as a sensor reminded me of an idea I had some time ago, I'm regularly in noisy places such as crowded railway stations or bars. Wouldn't it be good if the neo1973 could check the ambient

External VGA output: What resources would this require? What applications does this enable?

2006-11-30 Thread michael
I've always thought it would be useful to be able to plug a head mounted display into my PDA. If nothing else, this would allow me to use smaller fonts and still be able to read them. Most head mounted displays take standard VGA input, and all PDAs (and smart phones) use LCDs which of course are

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Alexander Steinert
Rod Whitby, Fri 2006-12-01 00:56 CET See http://treoware.com/brightcam.html for a great example of how this works on the Treo 650 via a third party utility which measures brightness through the camera, and sound levels through the microphone. This utility does everything mentioned in this

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Tim Newsom
the problem with doing it this way, is you'd need some way to notify each application of all the sensors available at runtime, or you re-compile each availability sensitive app for every combination of sensors (having that many versions of software is sure to turn off Sean's dad) there's

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Jeff Andros
On 11/30/06, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem with doing it this way, is you'd need some way to notify each application of all the sensors available at runtime, or you re-compile each availability sensitive app for every combination of sensors (having that many versions of

Re: Text entry

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/1/06 12:27 AM, Christopher Heiny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jumpx (aka Fitaly) already has an open source implementation at http://jumpx.sourceforge.net/ Though it is stylus oriented in the current implementation. I found this guy's idea quite interesting a while back:

Re: Open Moko - GPL?

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/1/06 7:45 AM, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So does this mean that a standard SIM card won't work? Is it one of those things where you have to cut up your sim card (wonder what do I tell cingular when I bring THAT in)? or are we just talking about some kind of combo system on the

Re: Text entry

2006-11-30 Thread David Ormsbee
Hi folks, So when I first heard about this phone, I mocked up this idea: http://dave.hereticmonkey.com/musings/phone_keyboard.html I had originally wanted to make something that would be compatible with phones that have physical buttons (hence the 3x4 grid), but I'm beginning to think that I

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/30/06, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem with doing it this way, is you'd need some way to notify each application of all the sensors available at runtime, or you re-compile each availability sensitive app for every combination of sensors (having that many versions of

Text input.

2006-11-30 Thread Daniel Savage
Just curious with all the discussion of different text input methods .. is a stylus a part of the standard Neo package planned with the touch pad? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Text input.

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/1/06 12:27 PM, Daniel Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious with all the discussion of different text input methods .. is a stylus a part of the standard Neo package planned with the touch pad? Yes. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community