Howdy, all. (My first post to this list, and thanks for having me...)
While we can't be entirely sure that the iPhone is a closed device -
Apple may be waiting to spring something onto the world at WWDC, in
May - all indications are that they regard the iPhone as a firmware
device, as closed, lo
On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:50 +0100, Attila Csipa wrote:
> The one little problem with that:
I was gonna say...
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On Friday 12 January 2007 00:15, Paul Bohme wrote:
> > Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigation software... :)
>
> We were chewing this one over at work the other day. If you could pull
> a list of waypoints from (say) Google's mapping API, and location data
> from the GPS it might be p
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Marcus Bauer schreef:
> On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 15:48 -0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> On 1/11/07 3:38 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
>>> Raster or vector, and
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 15:48 -0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> On 1/11/07 3:38 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
> >
> > Raster or vector, and with or without address data?
>
> This would be the raw stuff tha
On Friday 12 January 2007 00:00, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> We have this stuff, but I didn't think to use it for the first release of
> OpenMoko. The rendering engine is totally closed source, expensive, and the
> maps are even more expensive.
> If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just se
At Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:16:48 +0100,
Fabian Off wrote:
>
> Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 00:01 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
> > If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
> > and see if we can support an open source mapping engineer. Is this something
> > people would pay
On 1/11/07 3:38 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
>
> Raster or vector, and with or without address data?
This would be the raw stuff that companies like TomTom, Navigon, and
Destinator, parse. I don't even kn
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Sean Moss-Pultz schreef:
> On 1/11/07 1:06 PM, "Sven Neuhaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard
>>> kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox."
>> Car kit? Please tell me it inc
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Paul Bohme schreef:
> Sven Neuhaus wrote:
>> Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>>> We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the
>>> standard
>>> kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox."
>>
>> Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigat
On Thursday 11 January 2007 19:56, Atlasz wrote:
> > significantly less bulky and likely cheaper than assembling these
> > components 'by hand'. As somebody mentioned, it could be in a form of
> It can be done
> and the components are not expensive. But it's not for everybody and
> takes some time
Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 00:01 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
> If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
> and see if we can support an open source mapping engineer. Is this something
> people would pay for?
>
> -Sean
Of course they would do so.
Everybody who's payi
Sven Neuhaus wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the
standard
kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox."
Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigation software... :)
This screen (not to mention the GPS) is just screaming for maps t
I made a comment last night about thinking the iPhone would not be open.
Just so I don't sound like another person speculating, here's it coming from
the horse's mouth:
"It isn't OS X proper, as you'd expect. And like an iPod, it won't be an
open system that people can develop for. Remember, this
On 1/11/07 1:06 PM, "Sven Neuhaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard
>> kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox."
>
> Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigation software... :)
> This screen (not to mention the GPS) i
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard
kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox."
Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigation software... :)
This screen (not to mention the GPS) is just screaming for maps to display.
The latte
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb:
On 1/10/07 5:30 AM, "Ole Tange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have created a comparison between iPhone and Neo1973:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/iPhone
Very cool! Thanks for taking the time to do this. The only thing I found is
that micro-SD can go to 2GB n
Are there actual protocol differences with SD HC or does it just mean
"you need FAT32 support to use this card"?
On 1/11/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.mobile-review.com/news.php?language=en#news12096
>
> Any chance to use those with the Neo?
>
>
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http://www.mobile-review.com/news.php?language=en#news12096
Any chance to use those with the Neo?
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Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Thursday 11 January 2007 02:45, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>
>>> wifi-and-keyboard dock-like item. I would imagine that these peripherals
>>> would be almost as popular as the phone, as they would extend its
>>> functionality quite a lot.
>>>
>> We'll be making a few
Michael,
I fully agree. If anything, iPhone shows the mobile market where
things are heading in terms of features and usability. This is a
good thing and lays the ground for new ideas and competition.
The important point for OpenMoko is that software usability and
integration are absolutely key.
On 1/10/07 5:30 AM, "Ole Tange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have created a comparison between iPhone and Neo1973:
> http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/iPhone
Very cool! Thanks for taking the time to do this. The only thing I found is
that micro-SD can go to 2GB now. (Or that's what my ve
On Thursday 11 January 2007 02:45, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> > wifi-and-keyboard dock-like item. I would imagine that these peripherals
> > would be almost as popular as the phone, as they would extend its
> > functionality quite a lot.
>
> We'll be making a few...but since we're using standard USB
* Attila Kiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070111 16:12]:
> A late answer, but still...
>
> Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> > Will GPRS get suspended while a voice call is in progress? (Guess so)
> >
> AFAIK there is no C class GPRS phone available on the market, I don't
> think there is a HW available for t
Had to dig through a month of sent mail to find this: interesting
demonstration of multi-touch screen manipulations.
I have another similar one, but it's even further into the pile
"Jeff Han is a research scientist for New York University's Courant
Institute of Mathematical Sciences. He
On Thursday, Jan 11, 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz writes:
>On 1/10/07 8:53 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>Yes.
>
>So even though Apple's phone might be very elegant phone, its going to be
>more of the same stuff that (IMHO) has held the mobile industry back --
>namely the lack of
On 1/11/07, el jefe delito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/11/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a year after release we will probably have two things:
> 2) A Neo (released or in the works) which can provide all the 'eye
> candy' decoration to those paradigms which we would ev
On 1/10/07 11:39 AM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> I'm going to be in Vegas for another day now. Most of my work here is done
>> this afternoon, so tomorrow I can relax a bit ;-)
>
> Then have fun ;-)
>
> And BTW I wish you and your t
On 1/10/07 8:53 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer. Good overview article to refer to when my very
> slightly
> technical friends say "what is this OpenMoko thing I keep hearing about"?
Thanks!
> Sean must be tired in the picture. It looks like his eyes
On 1/10/07, Sven Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Richard Franks wrote:
> In terms of retro gaming though, it's the perfect platform for 2d games:
Unfortunately, in the last 4 years of using a Sony Ericsson P800 phone I've
learned that there're only a handful of decent games (genres) that can
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Koen Kooi schreef:
> Hi,
>
> Andrew Flegg in #maemo pointed me to
> http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007, which looks
> seriously sweet.
> Mickey hinted that libgpsmgr and libgpsbt might be present in the form of
> dbus services o
On 1/10/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/01/07, Attila Csipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Conceptually very similar to the FIC1973, with of course the
> added Apple candy and design team efforts.
I wonder how the FIC1973's graphics capabilities will compare - all
the slick XGL
Well, I'm looking to the internal sd card rather like to an additional
hdd in my desktop, which can be upgraded any time if needed. That's good
and I like it. But actually the other use case for SD card reader on a
PDA or such is to transfer large amount of data to it from other device
(like digita
On Thursday 11 January 2007 11:28, xnike wrote:
> Is it possible to use external usb devices like zydas wi-fi usb doungle?
> Or not in this version of kernel in neo1973?
> *As of Linux 2.6.18, the kernel includes a driver for ZD1211 & ZD1211B
> hardware*
>
Neo uses 2.6.17.14 I think.
You can use
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Hi,
Andrew Flegg in #maemo pointed me to
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007, which looks seriously
sweet.
Mickey hinted that libgpsmgr and libgpsbt might be present in the form of dbus
services on
the neo. Would FIC/openmoko con
Is it possible to use external usb devices like zydas wi-fi usb doungle?
Or not in this version of kernel in neo1973?
*As of Linux 2.6.18, the kernel includes a driver for ZD1211 & ZD1211B
hardware*
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Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 10. Januar 2007 um 22:58h:
> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 22:48, Fabian Off wrote:
> > I just wonder how people could live with phones they
> > have to switch off any time the card should be changed.
>
> Considering that the microsd slot is
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