You want one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ ?
Marc.
On 1/20/07, Josef Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:07:40PM +0100, Torsten Röhl wrote:
Why - QWERTY keypad ? we have a wide screen 2,8 inch and i
love the new iphone concept without qwerty
It's not up to the carrier to support it, if you're not depending on
the carrier's voicemail system. This is an idea I'd been thinking about for
a while, and was the first thing I thought of when OpenMoko was
announced - since it takes access to the gsm module to be possible.
Disable voicemail
On 20 Jan 2007, at 6:06 am, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus
shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide.
Does this mean it'll be shipping direct from openmoko.com with the
correct power plug for each country?
The 2nd generation
Austin Taylor schrieb:
Visual voicemail requires back-end support from the carrier.
Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it?
Right. If there is some distinct signal (beep) between messages on your
voicemail, the phone could probably recognize it. Otherwise it gets a
lot more
Disable voicemail w/ your carrier (if possible; otherwise just answer
before it kicks in). Write a voicemail app for the phone that answers
the call after a few rings, plays a message, records response to local
memory. Assuming we've got access to the caller ID data, that should
be everything
Great, nice design decision. This is another thing that's very
attractive about this product; its openness encourages it to be a
truly borderless device (Apple, for instance, often falls into the
trap of an American-centric approach with it's products).
Renaissance Man
On 20 Jan 2007, at
Renaissance Man schrieb:
On 20 Jan 2007, at 6:06 am, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus
shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide.
Does this mean it'll be shipping direct from openmoko.com with the
correct power plug for each
* Renaissance Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070120 12:14]:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. Address Book,
iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973 ships, but is such
support in the works at all?
Well, I'd presume that we might hope for Address Book and iCal
On 20 Jan 2007, at 11:50 am, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
No idea what iSync is or does :)
iSync is Apple's software for synchronizing contacts, calendar, web
bookmarks and passwords with mobile devices and its dotMac service:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/
iPhoto I presume is
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Nikita V. Youshchenko schreef:
How can it charge over USB if it gets full discharged?
AFAIK, USB device is not powered by USB host until it is configured.
So gadged must be operational to charge over usb.
Well, I'm almost certain that my USB mouse
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Gabriel Ambuehl schreef:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 13:04, Koen Kooi wrote:
Well, I'd presume that we might hope for Address Book and iCal at
least, as these are covered by SyncML.
No
iSync talks SyncML
But not AB and iCal as the poster
Am 20.01.2007 um 12:10 schrieb Renaissance Man:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works at all?
Yes, since 3 years :-)
This is my first post ,so I just wanted to give a thumbs up for this original
idea :)
I think this mobile will start a chain reaction that will lead to a big market
change..
Question 1:
Will there be any software (from phase 0) that will take advantage of the AGPS?
No need for maps (as long as
For those people going to SCALE who are looking ahead to putting a small
server on your home or work network so your Neo can access the internet
via bluetooth, make sure you visit the NSLU2-Linux booth.
Sean, please talk to Tom King at the booth and see what a MokoSlug can do.
-- Rod Whitby
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Jay Trister schreef:
Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a
pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the
source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK.
Last I checked they used
Would I be right in assuming we won't see anything like Tengo-type
free software text input on OpenMoko, being that it's patented?
http://www.tengo.net/
I'm also assuming that getting Tengo to add support for OpenMoko is a
trivial matter. But would be nice to have a freedom software
On Saturday 20 January 2007 10:19, Marc Verwerft wrote:
You want one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ ?
I tried one of those, five stars for coolness, one star for usability,
especially for our EMACS friend, it's not exactly meant for heavy typers.
You're likely better
Ted Lemon wrote:
On Jan 19, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Austin Taylor wrote:
Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it?
Think like a developer: how can we make it work? Think like an
entrepreneur: is there a solution here that we can offer? Can we
transform GSM-as-usual into a transport?
* Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070120 13:19]:
How can it charge over USB if it gets full discharged?
AFAIK, USB device is not powered by USB host until it is configured.
So gadged must be operational to charge over usb.
Well, I'm almost certain that my USB mouse has no
On Saturday 20 January 2007 03:10, Renaissance Man wrote:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works at all?
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, etc all hook into OS X's
* Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070120 13:06]:
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Andreas Kostyrka schreef:
* Renaissance Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070120 12:14]:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. Address
Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when
* Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070120 13:36]:
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Gabriel Ambuehl schreef:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 13:04, Koen Kooi wrote:
Well, I'd presume that we might hope for Address Book and iCal at
least, as these are covered by SyncML.
No
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Dane Jensen schreef:
On Saturday 20 January 2007 03:10, Renaissance Man wrote:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works
Is there a usable emulator for the environment too?
Btw, once the openmoko-specific source code is available, how will it be
available (as an extension of openembedded?)?
Are there any details somewhere on how we will be supposed to start
developping new applications and test them (in an emulator
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works at all?
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, etc all hook into OS X's SyncServices
framework
through native API goodness. iSync then
Dear OpenMoko fellows!
I think we share the same happiness, beeing delirious with joy,
about Seans anouncement for the OpenMoko/Neo1973 project today
:)
And this not, because he announced the planed shipping dates for
a new product - whis his surprising philosophic coloured mail
he put into
Nikita V. Youshchenko writes:
The phone is charged via USB. I am assuming it comes without a power
supply. You can get a USB charger for a power outlet on ebay for a few
bucks if you want to charge it without a PC.
How can it charge over USB if it gets full discharged?
AFAIK, USB device is
Hi,
Just a quick note to say that the announcement this morning (with the
schedule) is currently on the front page of slashdot.org
I hope the project gets all the lime-light it deserves, I can't
wait to get my hands one of these things.
Jon
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On 20/01/07, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any code that would be running on the phone that won't be
FOSS (ie. GPS daemon/driver )? If so, how easy will it be to find out
which code is closed-source, and how dependent would the phone's
functionality be on the closed-source code?
Hi Sean!
On 20/01/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the OpenMoko Linux Distribution
Can the FIC marketting department call it 'the OpenMoko GNU/Linux Distribution'?
Given that the free software nature of the phone is its primary
feature, it seems strange not to acknowledge the
Hi !
One software I really dream of is a software allowing me to share points
of interest. The Neo1973 with its GPS could be used to do a snapshot
of the location, and a small software could help us to categorize the
place (for example restaurant, panorama, museum, etc.), eventually add a
On 20/01/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Crossland schreef:
Can the FIC marketting department call it 'the OpenMoko GNU/Linux
Distribution'?
How much GNU software must be present to call it a GNU/linux distribution? Do I
still need
to call it gnu/linux if I use uclibc and
On 20/01/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the first thing I asked; you hit the nail on the head with the
GPS daemon. That's the only thing, apparently, and so only the GPS
functionality would depend on that daemon being there. Ideally just
'apt-get remove --purge'ing it away
On 1/20/07 1:18 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20/01/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Crossland schreef:
Can the FIC marketting department call it 'the OpenMoko GNU/Linux
Distribution'?
How much GNU software must be present to call it a GNU/linux distribution? Do
On 1/20/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Join us. Free Your Phone.
I totally love this catch phrase! I hope that the FIC marketting uses
it as the official tagline of all its openmoko devices!
If freedom is a real goal then I agree.
How much GNU software must be present to call
On 20/01/07, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What we say is that you ought to give the system's principal
developer a share of the credit. The principal developer is the GNU
Project, and the system is basically GNU.
...
How about calling it the Open Moko *Operating System*?
I don't
On 1/20/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/20/07 1:18 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20/01/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Crossland schreef:
Can the FIC marketting department call it 'the OpenMoko GNU/Linux
Distribution'?
How much GNU software
On 20/01/07, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open Moko Operating System, based on GNU/Linux.
I think its safe to assume that the shorthand for the system will be
plain 'OpenMoKo.'
I was requesting that FIC's full title for the system replaces Linux
with GNU/Linux for the good and
That's called rhetorical questions. Those are GNU's opinions which are
obviously and adamantly not shared.
-I- think it's entirely silly.
Xorg is as much not a component as GNU is.
If gnusense is GNU/Linux based on Ubuntu, then why have they stripped
Ubuntu from the name? That's entirely
On 1/20/07, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko FIC/GNU/Linus/Alan Cox/X11/Xorg/GTK/... Linux. Oh, and who is
the principal for the plastic and silicon? How about the makers of the
editors you use to create all this code and give credit to the companies
that supplied the monitors,
On 21 Jan 2007, at 12:25 am, Richard Franks wrote:
I agree, and I agree that this would generally be A Good Thing. But
I think it that it would make the Neo just a little bit harder to
market - if a potential customer is asking themselves What does a
GNU do? rather than reading the
On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:48, David Ford wrote:
OpenMoko FIC/GNU/Linus/Alan Cox/X11/Xorg/GTK/... Linux. Oh, and who is
the principal for the plastic and silicon? How about the makers of the
editors you use to create all this code and give credit to the companies
that supplied the
They have been round for a while. Haven't used any but there are
commercial and OSS versions available now.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=linux+exchange+connector
Thanks
Steve
On 20/01/2007, at 5:55 PM, Todd Conley wrote:
I just started reading about openmoko today and am very
On 20/01/2007, at 6:32 PM, Kent Karlsson wrote:
On 20 jan 2007, at 14.14, Renaissance Man wrote:
On 20 Jan 2007, at 9:55 pm, Kent Karlsson wrote:
Awesome to see so much people ready to jump on the job to get it
working with Mac. That was supposed to be my first thing to make
sure as well
Hello,
Found this nice little project:
http://ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/make.html
5 volts at 100ma (i.e. for usb memory sticks / card reader) out of 2
normal AA / AAA batteries.
It's even possible to use their PCB design, just need to replace the
resistors on the D lines with
a mini USB
Well, I was just saying that decoding beeps from Asterisk is probably harder
to do than to decode SMS(s), and let the phone keep track of what voice
mails are available to listen to (like an index), and then Asterisk keeps
the voice mails. When the user wants to listen to a specific voice mail,
This is so tiring. I think we've all had to deal with this GNU/Linux
vs. Linux war multiple times. How about those of you who care about it
argue amongst yourselves instead of clogging our inboxes? WE'VE ALL
HEARD IT BEFORE AND CAME TO OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS ALREADY.
Why don't we start working
Well, religion or believe or whatever can create such a warfare
is one important thing for sure - to be handled with care.
I better skip those things here ;-)
But it is a fact, that a running OSS box, leveraging the Linux kernel
and the GNU tools and Xorg and .. well, it's a hard thing to name
Hey Sven,
I'm not saying that it's not important; what I'm asking is for a
little consideration. This is a dead horse. Do you think a single
subscriber hasn't heard this all before? Those who call it GNU/Linux
will continue to call it such, and those who call it Linux will do
the same. Let's move
On Saturday 20 January 2007 23:08, Greg Tada wrote:
Hey Sven,
Hi Greg
If we're talking about freedom of speech, let's stop trying to set
policies about what we call it.
indeed .. good one
I guess I just wanted to show off ;-))
and say hello to this promising project.
Cheers, Sven
Greg Tada writes:
This is so tiring. I think we've all had to deal with this GNU/Linux
vs. Linux war multiple times. How about those of you who care about it
argue amongst yourselves instead of clogging our inboxes? WE'VE ALL
HEARD IT BEFORE AND CAME TO OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS ALREADY.
Why don't we
On 1/21/07, Sven Gothel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This reminds me of the very honorable dude Theo de Raadt
and the not so nice reasons for starting OpenBSD ; http://kerneltrap.org/node/6
As you can see, things matter to people, even this 'evangelism' thing ;-)
Not to start another debate, but
On 1/20/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I'll be buying this phone, is anyone aware of a provider in the
US who will give a discount on a plan if you don't get a phone with
it?
Speaking of US providers, since the phone is GSM, are cingular and T-mobile
our only options? I'm
Maybe it's too early to ask this, but will there be a discount,
buy-back, or trade in program for developers who decide to buy the 1st
rev of the device, perhaps only for developers who have contributed
code for OpenMoko?
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Dylan Semler writes:
On 1/20/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I'll be buying this phone, is anyone aware of a provider in the
US who will give a discount on a plan if you don't get a phone with
it?
Speaking of US providers, since the phone is GSM, are cingular and T-mobile
our
On Saturday 20 January 2007 23:52, Simon wrote:
Maybe it's too early to ask this, but will there be a discount,
buy-back, or trade in program for developers who decide to buy the 1st
rev of the device, perhaps only for developers who have contributed
code for OpenMoko?
Anybody said
On 1/20/07, Steve Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now there is an idea, program the ability to
copy SIM card profiles so I can switch between SIMs with out
physically inserting it when I need it. Not sure how possible that
is, don't know enough about how the SIM cards work.
From reading
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 15:55 -0800, Todd Conley wrote:
I just started reading about openmoko today and am very excited. I
manage 1200+ windows mobile phones for a corporation and have always
wanted to be able to do so much with these devices. Are there any
current open-source projects out there
On 1/21/07, Sven Gothel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reminds me somehow of this commercial wine add-on package thing,
can't remember the name - you know, for gamers ;-)
Cedega, formerly WineX.
Also, to piggyback on my own thread, Ralink releases driver code for
their chips, along with freely
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