On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 08:37 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 04:51, Corey napisał:
On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:43, Greg Tada wrote:
I'd like to help out this project, I really would. But when zealots
like Renaissance Man (Who calls themselves that?
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 00:02 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 08:37 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 04:51, Corey napisał:
On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:43, Greg Tada wrote:
I'd like to help out this project, I really would. But when
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 08:40 +0100, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg
Nothing new, but still worth watch :-)
Please add this to the temp wiki. Also, the same goes for anyone else
who finds press. This will cut-down on bandwidth on the list, but still
collect your
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 15:17 -0700, Corey wrote:
On Sunday 21 January 2007 14:20, Ted Lemon wrote:
I think that if the discussion here can be tolerated, it's
better because it's cross-pollinating.
snip
Generally speaking, what helps on mailing lists is actually two-
fold.
snip
Hey OpenMoko community.
I had the pleasure of meeting Sean at [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s at CES. Since there
has
been a bit of cross-linking from this list to my Nokia Internet Tablet blog
(and specifically the hacks therein and the Agere BluOnyx article) I thought
I'd jump in and say hello and see if
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:55 +, Justyn Butler wrote:
I agree that something, anything, that will help me justify upgrading
my phone every six months is needed. In my case I particularly feel
the need for 3G but I want to get building right now, on v1.
I'd personally settle for a minor
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 01:08 -0700, Thought Fix wrote:
Hey OpenMoko community.
I had the pleasure of meeting Sean at [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s at CES. Since
there has been a bit of cross-linking from this list to my Nokia
Internet Tablet blog (and specifically the hacks therein and the Agere
BluOnyx
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 16:25 +0100, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/1/21, Tom Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already discussed, but
I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec doesn't include WiFi
Whoa, you are right! Nobody noticed
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 21:02 +1030, Rod Whitby wrote:
When I first started the NSLU2-Linux (www.nslu2-linux.org) project 2.5
years ago, I explicitly banned all discussion of licensing on the
mailing list (nslu2-linux is a mixture of mostly GPL and MIT licenses,
but also has some proprietary
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 14:57 -0500, Andrew Turner wrote:
This is a thought that seems inspired by other early adopter
programs like Nokia's N770 internet tablet, which was just superseded
by the N800, with new OS versions not backwards compatible. Therefore,
the devs users of the Rev1 device
Harald Welte wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote:
Since everyone is drooling about the next iteration of the Neo which is
exptected to include WiFi, I figured I'd add a request for USB 2.0. This
allows us to use a USB VGA adapter
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 06:44 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Mikko Rauhala writes:
la, 2007-01-20 kello 23:25 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer kirjoitti:
Simon writes:
keep in mind, you'll only get USB 1.1 speeds :(
Unfortunate, but I'll take it. Actually, I'm curious as to why that
decision was
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 10:30 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Paul Bohme writes:
Making legacy apps written for the Garnet OS (née Palm OS) run on Linux
is decidedly non-trivial. An emulator for this is going to be part of the
ACCESS Linux Platform...
Interesting - so an emulator for the
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 11:21 -0500, David Ford wrote:
The term Push email comes from a client signing on to the server and
issuing a look for ... instruction to the server. Also known as
idling or long-delay poll.
The logic of it is to have the client only issue new look for ...
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 23:56 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Dylan Semler writes:
On 1/20/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I'll be buying this phone, is anyone aware of a provider in the
US who will give a discount on a plan if you don't get a phone with
it?
Speaking of US
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We're working with Funambol on SyncML and (soon) push email.
A decent IMAP mail client with IMAP IDLE support would be sweet.
-Sven
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Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/22/07 4:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reason I ask is I'd like to propose an OpenMoko T-shirt, with the
now-official
tag-line. I'd buy and where that right away.
If we don't have a logo yet, perhaps that artist who joined recently could
help?
Michael,
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 13:28 -0500, Simon wrote:
Has anyone else posted this to the mailing list?
http://www.strout.net/info/ideas/hexinput.html
Heya, could you all channel your thoughts and ideas onto the wiki about
this: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Software
Jon
Jon
On 22/01/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/22/07 4:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reason I ask is I'd like to propose an OpenMoko T-shirt, with the
now-official
tag-line. I'd buy and where that right away.
Michael, wishing for Free Your Phone T-shirts
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 16:06 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
As in, GNUStep? That's an interesting thought.
Ah, I forgot to mention it is not only a thought...
mySTEP is an FOSS project for the Sharp Zaurus that is only waiting
for appropriate open Linux based mobile phone
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 17:13 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
On 1/19/07, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This might have been suggested before, if so - ignore it ;)
The idea is simply to use the (stereo) mini jack sound output of the
Neo to control two infrared leds, in order to control
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 22:48 +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 02:48 +0530, Warren Noronha wrote:
Is there a text to speech feature planned.
festival (flite) is in openembedded, thus most likely it will be
available in openmoko very soon, too. The same goes for sphinx
Hello.
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 12:22, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/22/07 2:36 AM, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I thought it could be fun to see and play with.
http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/OpenMoko/neo1973-xoo-device.tar.bz2
Start with 'xoo --device
In my opinion a central repository is really needed, for several
reasons :
- this will allow anyone to share and submit new POIs, or correct them (a
bit like articles on wikipedia !)
- this will ensure that POIs are always up to date : POIs lists included
in traditionnal navigation softwares
* Renaissance Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 01:38]:
I actually become aware of the FS movement via the GNU moniker, so it worked
on me. For many years I was only aware of the OS movement (through knowing
about Linux).
rant
Guess you wasn't to much interested in the license of the software you
Salve Uwe!
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Uwe Koch wrote:
it's still always the same problem:
Mobile phones' displays are to small (size or resolution) to view documents,
ebooks, whatever - but they are small to carry with.
On the other hand PDAs are to large to carry with but are a better
solution
Very nice!
Did I get it wrong or he is talking about Big Companies or government in
Italy (my country)?
Sean, can you confirm? I am really curious if there is something going on in
my country that I could partecipate to!
On 1/22/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 12:17, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Wow somebody buy this guy a beer!
Best place would be the beer event of fosdem. Friday evening. ;)
Deal. Drinks will be on me!
-Sean
Does that mean Openmoko will be at FOSDEM in Brussels next month?
and you are refering to this
On 1/22/07 7:36 PM, Richard Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 12:17, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Wow somebody buy this guy a beer!
Best place would be the beer event of fosdem. Friday evening. ;)
Deal. Drinks will be on me!
-Sean
Does that mean Openmoko will be
Great!!!
I'll be there!!!
Jan.
On 1/22/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/22/07 7:36 PM, Richard Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 12:17, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Wow somebody buy this guy a beer!
Best place would be the beer event of fosdem.
Salve Jose and all new or old subscriber of this list!
As much as I'm happy that new people join this mailing list,
please consider that some hundreds or thousands people are on
this list and repeating low level question will generate noise.
So again, I'm very happy that many new people find the
Salve Warren!
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Warren Noronha wrote:
Is there a text to speech feature planned. I ask this cause a while
back a friend of mine
who works with the blind, was looking out for phone to for his
students (who are blind)
Do you know this thread:
2007/1/22, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would like to know if python and pygtk is going to be installed in
Neo1973 devices. Of course, some extra info about
extra-python-features in this device would be nice.
I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about
On Monday 22 January 2007 14:03, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/1/22, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would like to know if python and pygtk is going to be installed in
Neo1973 devices. Of course, some extra info about
extra-python-features in this device would be nice.
Agreed.
Also, it seems to me that we are starting to feel the need for a
development-oriented mailing list.
E.g., thanks to some previous messages on this list, I did my homework
this week-end to setup an OpenEmbedded build environment and (probably)
managed to build some targets (nano,
Robert,
I'll be coming both to the beer evening and of course to FOSDEM. I live
nearby Mechelen, approx. 35 kms from BXL. If I can be of any help, let me
know.
Marc.
Sean,
If you could arrange for bringing phones to save on the shipping costs, I'll
buy you 2 beers!! :-)
Marc.
On 1/22/07,
Salve Mikko!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Mikko J Rauhala wrote:
On ma, 2007-01-22 at 14:10 +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about 10 MB
*compressed*. All default Neo1973 software (including kernel and
Robert Michel wrote:
Salve Uwe!
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Uwe Koch wrote:
it's still always the same problem:
Mobile phones' displays are to small (size or resolution) to view
documents,
ebooks, whatever - but they are small to carry with.
On the other hand PDAs are to large to carry with
Hello Milan,
I know what you mean. And honestly, who really knows what the true
intentions of OpenMoko are. But what I do know, is that regardless of what
they do, I will end up with a phone that I can hack till my hearts
content. And I am not limited to a particular carrier, and apart from the
Salve!
2007/1/22, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Salve Mikko!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Mikko J Rauhala wrote:
On ma, 2007-01-22 at 14:10 +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about 10 MB
*compressed*.
On ma, 2007-01-22 at 15:07 +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
Salve Mikko!
_Default_ software. The default stuff must fit in without a microSD.
Oh I see much power with 64MB flash and I do expect a skripting language
like python fit on the flash. But not every lib must be inside the
flash, right?
Robert Michel writes:
I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about 10 MB
*compressed*. All default Neo1973 software (including kernel and libs)
must fit in 64MB flash storage...
Why? it have a mountable microSD card (1,2, maybe 4 and more GB)-
the 128MB RAM is the counting
Salve Soeren!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
will the neo have some other i/o ports forwarded to the outside besides the
usb port and audio jack?
AFAIK unhappyly not.
i'd be intersted if there is one to do spi with a microcontroller.
if not, would there be one iside the
Robert Michel wrote:
But Sean, when you are at the FOSDEM, do you need a table in BXL?
Look: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths
Many Open... there, but OpenMoko is still missing.
OpenEmbedded has a booth on which almost everything OpenMoko is
absolutely on-topic and very welcome. If everything
Salve soeren!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Montag, den 22. Januar 2007 um 17:23h:
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:00:52PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
I hope you (and other hardware hackers) are not to much disapointed and
do use OpenMoko and Neo1973 for cool and interesting projects and hacks.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why? - i'm controlling my home via irda or 433mhz radio - music, mp3
player, lights, everything. (no, not x10 -- completely homebrew + canbus)
soldering a 433mhz remote into the case would be great.
Now that's actually a really cool idea. Getting a 433/866 MHz
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:45:32PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Now that's actually a really cool idea. Getting a 433/866 MHz
transceiver into the next phone would enable the Neo to be a perfect
home automation control device. I like it!
That plus voice recognition software and you can
Salve Sean!
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Dienstag, den 23. Januar 2007 um 00:41h:
On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But Sean, when you are at the FOSDEM, do you need a table in BXL?
Look: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths
Many Open... there, but OpenMoko is still
Salve!
I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean
will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007
I'm probably just going to be walking around and hanging out with you
all.
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001891.html
But when he'll bring some or many Neo1973 with
Robert Michel wrote:
I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean
will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007
Are you sure? :)
:M:
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 22/01/07, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very nice!
Did I get it wrong or he is talking about Big Companies or
government in
Italy (my country)? Sean, can you confirm? I am really
curious if there is something going on in my
Salve Michael!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Robert Michel wrote:
I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean
will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007
Are you sure? :)
Oh it was such a good opener to my idea of a clusterd megaphone
- Seans talk would
Cheers Robert,
I will be patient and will see if OpenMoko will find a way to be on
this list:
http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/days
I recommend watching this instead:
http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/devroom/embedded
Regards,
:M:
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I realize that the reason the usb host port is unpowered is because
the phone runs at something like 3.6 volt, and powered usb requires 5
volt, which would add the need for dc-dc converters. So, I've got an
idea...
What about adding a power tap next to the usb port, running at the
phones native
Thanks for getting it to the wiki, I've been trying to finish it for
a couple of hours this morning, but there is this work thing that
keeps me occupied all the time. =)
I'll try to flesh out my idea some more and write a couple of
paragraphs on it on the wiki.
-- kent
On 22 jan 2007,
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 22:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Sencer wrote:
I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
with.
This should get you started:
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 21:17 +0100, slubman wrote:
Another article about OpenMoko on a tech site. This one talk about the
OpenMoko interface compared to iPhone one.
The link :
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php
On 22/01/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Renaissance Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 01:38]:
I actually become aware of the FS movement via the GNU
moniker, so it worked on me. For many years I was only aware
of the OS movement (through knowing about Linux).
Guess you wasn't to
(sorry for the premature post)
On 22/01/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Renaissance Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 01:38]:
I actually become aware of the FS movement via the GNU
moniker, so it worked on me. For many years I was only aware
of the OS movement (through knowing
Salve Derek!
nice idea :)
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Derek Pressnall wrote:
I realize that the reason the usb host port is unpowered is because
the phone runs at something like 3.6 volt, and powered usb requires 5
volt, which would add the need for dc-dc converters. So, I've got an
idea...
and
Salve Alexander!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Alexander McLeay wrote:
On 1/22/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg
Nothing new, but still worth watch :-)
Is it available in a downloadable format for people who can't view
Flash movies? (I'm
There are already (I assume) at least two very powerful scripting
languages on the OpenMoko.
The first is sh in whatever variant they decide to include. I've used
sh to write CGI scripts on a couple of deeply embedded web servers;
you'd be surprised how much can be done with just
On 22/01/07, Marcel de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/21/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If more people are aware of why freedom and community matter, then
they will buy more products that support freedom and community, like
more Neos.
How does adding three more letters and
On 22/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it available in a downloadable format for people who can't view
Flash movies? (I'm running Linux on a PPC machine here, so nothing
from Adobe...)
hmm I found this
http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/
www.keepvid.com does what this
I like to be accurate and know what I am talking about, and I like
others to be too :-)
It simply never ends, does it?
Feel entirely free to call it GNU/Linux, Bob/Linux, Jim/Linux or
whatever you like, okay. But _please_ stop proselytizing.
Have you ever noticed how folks with a zealot-like
Okay, I will take my statement back, it is indeed possible to bend light, but
fitting a collapsed star into the Neo1973 will be kinda hard :D.
But, well, theoretically, if there existed a material where the refraction
index could somehow be controlled, that would be a possibility. I guess this
Hello.
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 19:17, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/22/07 5:56 PM, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 12:22, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Wow somebody buy this guy a beer!
Best place would be the beer event of fosdem. Friday evening. ;)
Deal.
David, if you're not interested in the topic take note of the subject
in your inbox and stop reading the thread. Don't troll the thread
with inflammatory arguments and personal attacks.
You may have made up your mind but there are clearly other people who
would like to continue the
At 20:21 22.1.2007, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 22/01/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure they might take a few community-sponsored ideas and might
even claim them as their own (and sell new closed phones),
If you write free software for the OpenMoko platform and use a good
I just joined the mailing list but if the point of this thread is
about whether the manual/box/website for openmoko should refer to it
using Linux or GNU/Linux then I am 100% whole heartedly behind
GNU/Linux..
If there were the possibility of replacing the kernel with say a cut
down bsd kernel
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Milan Votava writes:
It's time now to get something back. It would be nice for a community
developer to get a share of the company each time he/she makes a new
'selling' application :-)
I've gotten *so* *much* from the free software community already that
any piddling
* Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 19:40]:
Seeing as how there has been interest in including an interpreted
language with the default software install (such as Python or Perl,
etc.), and the fact that they are too big to fit in the built-in
flash, I would like to offer up an
tony writes:
We are traveling a road built by those who came before. It's not quite
right to start asking for toll.
Very well said.
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On Monday 22 January 2007 20:28, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 22/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it available in a downloadable format for people who can't view
Flash movies? (I'm running Linux on a PPC machine here, so nothing
from Adobe...)
hmm I found this
On 22/01/07, MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just joined the mailing list but if the point of this thread is
about whether the manual/box/website for openmoko should refer to it
using Linux or GNU/Linux then I am 100% whole heartedly behind
GNU/Linux.
That's originally what this thead was about,
* Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 21:30]:
* Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 19:40]:
Seeing as how there has been interest in including an interpreted
language with the default software install (such as Python or Perl,
etc.), and the fact that they are too big to fit in
On Monday 22 January 2007 13:28, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
* Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 19:40]:
Seeing as how there has been interest in including an interpreted
language with the default software install (such as Python or Perl,
etc.), and the fact that they are too big to fit
* Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 21:37]:
That also wouldn't be accurate. The droid, refering to
wikipedia-stable, might instead say:
So, it's something _different_ than Linux?
Well, not really. GNU/Linux is the whole system; Linux is one part of
the system, and it is a very
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 21:45, Corey napisał:
I would recommend lua, it's extremely light-weight ( we're talking
about 6 megs here )
6M???
http://openzaurus.linuxtogo.org/feed-browser/?name=luaaction=search
show that it will take much less then 1M
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On Monday 22 January 2007 14:03, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 21:45, Corey napisał:
I would recommend lua, it's extremely light-weight ( we're talking
about 6 megs here )
6M???
http://openzaurus.linuxtogo.org/feed-browser/?name=luaaction=search
show
www.keepvid.com does what this does :-)
Or you can use this user script:
http://1024k.de/bookmarklets/video-bookmarklets.html
with Greasemonkey/Firefox and not have to go through third-party sites :)
D.
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Subject: [SVHMPC] Engadget's Take on the Google Phone
The guys over at Engadget are publishing what looks to be a photoshopped
picture of the G-Phone. Supposedly, it's a whole-screen type
On 10:12:00 pm 2007-01-22 Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 14:03, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 21:45, Corey napisał:
I would recommend lua, it's extremely light-weight ( we're talking
about 6 megs here )
6M???
I would recommend lua,
It does look pretty good, I've taken a brief look at it. In fact, I'm
in the processing of porting c/invoke over to 2e (c/invoke was
originally done for / as part of lua, I think), due to a user's
request.
A couple of the design considerations for the 2e language that
* Andra?? 'ruskie' Levstik [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 22:52]:
On 10:12:00 pm 2007-01-22 Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 14:03, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedzia??ek, 22 stycznia 2007 21:45, Corey napisa??:
I would recommend lua, it's extremely
On Monday 22 January 2007 14:49, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
Why is this even being discused... you have the ability to add anything to
the phone once you get your hands on it... SO any scripting languages one
desires can be added.
It's true that you have the ability to add anything to
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
Personaly by default there should be none. And let the user decide
what he
wants. For example I prefer ruby over perl, lua or python and I
like using
bash scripts for a lot of stuff. So having lua on my system would
be more
or
Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik writes:
Why is this even being discused... you have the ability to add anything to
the phone once you get your hands on it
The reason is the same reason the device is being shipped with a given
kernel (Linux), a given set of libraries (glibc, gtk), etc. So that
when a
Feel entirely free to call it GNU/Linux, Bob/Linux, Jim/Linux or
whatever you like, okay. But _please_ stop proselytizing.
Dude, why so prickly? I am not sure why this discussion is making you
so agitated..? We are having a discussion, and if you want it to stop,
just... stop? :-)
I'm not
On Monday 22 January 2007 15:33, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
Let me rephrase then. Have it defined as a standard-optional component that
can be used. But isn't installed by default. Won't ipkg have dependency
resolution etc?
Yes, so the dependency aspect will likely be a non-issue;
Let's just call it GNU/Linux and be done with it.
On 1/22/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feel entirely free to call it GNU/Linux, Bob/Linux, Jim/Linux or
whatever you like, okay. But _please_ stop proselytizing.
Dude, why so prickly? I am not sure why this discussion is
On Jan 22, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
So when you put your first python
application on, ipkg will conclude you need python. When you put your
second on, it will conclude you've alrady got python.
Sure. So in that case it does make sense to talk about standard
versions of each
It seems we are a few who are going to FOSDEM in Brussels this year.
I suggest we have an informal gathering.
Where? When? Ideas?
Put them here on the list or update
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/AtFOSDEM
/Ole
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* Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070122 23:21]:
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Andra? 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
Personaly by default there should be none. And let the user decide what he
wants. For example I prefer ruby over perl, lua or python and I like using
bash scripts for a lot of stuff. So
I couldn't agree more. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these phones.
More importantly I can't wait to tell Bell Mobility that im switching over
to Rogers HEH. The best part is that neither carrier will be able to stop me
from writing warez for this phone and all future OpenMokos.
On
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 00:30, Gervais Mulongoy wrote:
The best part is that neither carrier will be able to stop me
from writing warez for this phone and all future OpenMokos.
You're lucky it isn't a Windows mobile phone, or you'd have your phones and
email tapped by the FBI if you posted
Ole Tange writes:
It seems we are a few who are going to FOSDEM in Brussels this year.
I suggest we have an informal gathering.
Where? When? Ideas?
Have a drink for me...
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Ted Lemon writes:
On Jan 22, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
So when you put your first python
application on, ipkg will conclude you need python. When you put your
second on, it will conclude you've alrady got python.
Sure. So in that case it does make sense to talk about standard
On 1/22/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It simply never ends, does it?
One can hope :-)
Next time I get another argument on this subject in my inbox, I'm
going to simply email this back-to-sender, not the entire list:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Debate-GNU-Linux
On 1/22/07, Derek Pressnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a different (but related) track, I've always wanted to have a web
browser that was capable of executing local cgi scripts without the
need for client-side http server.
Pah! Internet Explorer has had that for *ages*.
But for non-windows,
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