He said what? Christ, give me Richard Stallman any day.
Renaissance Man
On 24 Jan 2007, at 1:03 am, Marcus Bauer wrote:
Linus Torvalds once jokingly said: I am your god.
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Hi,
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 01:47, Justyn Butler wrote:
So my answer to your question is: perhaps not from your USB memory
stick, but you will be able to upgrade the flash chip if you've a
little experience with surface mount hacking.
You cannot simply replace chips like that. The
On 1/24/07 4:39 PM, Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can we use the pictures at the openmoko site in wikipedia (all languages) with
the permission of FIC under the GNU Free Documentation License
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL )?
Please do!
-Sean
On 24.01.07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
- Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device.
- And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some
community love ;-)
Is Gtk-Web Core still being maintained? I was of the
Salve Justyn!
Justyn Butler schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 00:47h:
Firstly apologies if I've misunderstood what you're saying.
:) When it' my failing...
But I think it
is: can I use the flash chip from inside a USB memory stick to upgrade the
neo1973 flash?
yes
Once I get my
Hi !
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:16, Robert Michel wrote:
Once I get my hands on one of these babies the first thing I'm going
to be doing is taking it to pieces, and I can pretty much guarantee
once we see the flash chip we'll be able to find a compatible
replacement. But surface
Salve Eugene!
I'm just a student and normal member on this mailinglist,
so I don't know more than it was written on this list since
November.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Eugene Kozlov wrote:
Hello
Can somebody explain
What is about hardware licensing? Also open source? (shared pcb
schematics,
On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's
chips on the market now?
About US$3.
-Sean
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I am not sure if Gtk-WebCore is alive, but it seems to be, since
GPE-Minibrowser seems alive. Check gtk-webcore site[1] and mailing
list[2] for more info.
[1] http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=121646
2007/1/24, Alexander McLeay [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On
Salve,
the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port.
So for beening on the road, it could be nice to be
able to use a USB flash drive directly.
Our first idea was to hack the Neo1973 and give
some power to the port.
Another idea would to solder some capacitor into the
memory drive, maybe
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's
chips on the market now?
About US$3.
Are they good enough to twice integrate the acceleration data (which
Hi!
On 1/24/07, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le mardi 23 janvier 2007 à 22:15 -0400, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa a
écrit :
Hi!
Too much trouble.. the phone could get confused when you
walk/run/jump, or when you are in a car/bus.
Perhaps, can we use it as a command sets in a context
Salve!
Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h:
Maybe with a small USB connector to avoid the need for an adapter
to use with the Neo1973?
Just putting the small USB jack on the other side and the
USB memory drive becomes dual use. With small or big jack.
Would this
* Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070123 17:04]:
Robert Michel writes:
Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil
Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to
pickup the phone. you are quite allowed to touch the phone, explicitly:
D: Wenn das
On 1/24/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's
chips on the market now?
About US$3.
Are they good
* Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070123 17:58]:
So I haven't found a right source for this, the adac.de link hasn't
an official law text and isn't about the point general aproval and
mobiles without external antenna - it is only about the official
requirements to free speak systems.
Salve Andreas!
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h:
Robert Michel writes:
Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil
Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to
pickup the phone. you are quite allowed
Salve Jose!
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um
08:44h:
For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is
ringing...
If the command were shake to phone to answer, I could accidentally
answer the phone while I play with my kids!
* Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:01]:
Salve Andreas!
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h:
Robert Michel writes:
Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil
Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation.
* Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:52]:
I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that
a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac
article claims that it's ok to use a mobile, if you don't have to pick
it up. E.g. buttons and voice
Hi!
On 1/24/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Salve Jose!
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um
08:44h:
For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is
ringing...
If the command were shake to phone to answer, I could
Hi Sean,
On 23/01/07, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states
in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU. He also
clearly stated We'll just call it OpenMoko.
Could you confirm that if FIC writes that OpenMoko
Multi-touch demo at http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/index.html is
cool. However I feel that these are just first steps on the mountain of
inventions that are possible with multi-touch.
alorilhmm.. 3D multi gesture ...
aloril2 high resolution cameras and .. ;-)
PirateHeadand then
Salve!
ok, foget my capacitor idea... the capacitor would not
have much power after some hours - and charging it every
day would be
Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h:
the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port.
So for beening on the road, it could be
Salve Andreas!
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:49h:
* Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:01]:
Salve Andreas!
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h:
Robert Michel writes:
Since last Dezember it is
Perhaps, but:
- They seem to be based in old Gtk 1.x. Dillo was the web browser
for GPE until GPE got 2.x and Dillo didn't update.
- Do they support SSL connections?
Best regards,
2007/1/24, Pedro Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in
Hi,
There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo
such as Dillo and Skipstone.
Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be
another alternative.
AFAIK, none of those has support for javascript and DOM.
Which make those not very useful
Salve Andreas!
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:58h:
* Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:52]:
I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that
a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac
article claims
I think it's a fantastic idea too. The motion of putting a phone in your
pocket could likely be specific enough to train the phone to turn off. Or it
could identify when it is floating loose vs. being held to your ear, to
automatically lock.
Another application would be monitoring a kids
Salve!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with
javascript machine, etc)?
Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my
whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing.
So a Proxy on the Neo
Hi!
On 1/24/07, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. Ok, I will grant the wifi issue to low power... but, why not
EDGE?, why just GPRS?... I think I know the answer: price, but: is the
difference so large?.
I think that the first generation Neo won't have WiFi support because
* Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 15:50]:
Ahh holding in his hand - so when it is fixed with a cradel it is
still allowed to touch it. :)))
Exactly, it's the same in the StVO §1a ;)
btw, I'm all for an external antenna connector. I haven't yet tried
it, but I've got the tip, that
I am pretty sure that 2nd and 3rd generation OpenMokos will have cameras and
WiFi. At this point, I care more for a phone that will work as advertised.
And for a long enough trial period to work at the biggest bugs. Let's help
getting OpenMoko stable and useful so even my grandma can use it. Then
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's
chips on the market now?
About US$3.
Are they good enough to twice
Hi!
The thing is:
Even some of the cheapest moviles now include a camera, I think that
the lack of it will make you lose sells.
On 1/24/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am pretty sure that 2nd and 3rd generation OpenMokos will have cameras and
WiFi. At this point, I care more
For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
module in the phone Right? Cause accelerometers don't know which
direction your pointing and gps isn't probably accurate enough to derive
what you pointed at when you moved it maybe 2 or 3 feet during the
gesture.
or just buy another account on another carrier ;) get their 'cheapest' plan.
But I believe the Neo will only work on Cingular TMobile in the US.
On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wanted to see if anyone knows whether or not the OpenMoko phone would
work with
It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset just for the USA,
it's a dieing technology and GSM is more widely operated in almost all
countries outside of the USA.
Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
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+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+1-917-207-3420 Mb
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney
Hello,
I like your idea of spell weaving very much. Unfortunately...
Latest word seems to be that Neo1973 will be single touch only and
this
is hardware limitation.
...which is sad. I suppose the neo1973 is using a resistive
touch-screen.
I wasn't asking if it made sense, just if anyone knew if I could use the
phone on Verizon. No need to defend the decision to just use GSM...I
personally leave the blame on Verizon for not keeping up with technology.
thanks though,
-mark
It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset
Gosh, why does this fail to surprise me?
Didn't you get to say your piece already? Why don't you harass the Ubuntu
folks with this, hm? There are many more folks calling it Linux than
GNU/Linux, and very few people who seem to care strongly about your
over-developed sense of history and ethics,
Could you just drop this line of discussion, or pursue it off-list...? If
they refer to it as Linux they'll be in line with pretty much every major
_Linux_ distribution out there.
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sean,
On 23/01/07, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:15, Dave Crossland wrote:
I feel it is misleading to describe code distributed in the 1960s and
70s as 'free software' - because software freedom was not recognised
or enshrined.
Ok, now that's just being ridiculous.
And besides, the BSDL predates the GPLv1 by
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote:
For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
module in the phone
I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not
sure how an accelerometer would help figuring out what direction
The other major problem - if FIC made a CDMA OpenMoko phone, Verizon
would have to explicitly allow it's use, which would probably not
happen. Verizon has a tight level of control over phones - they will
have their own UI installed and Bluetooth file transfers etc turned
off.
Simply, Verizon['s
Hi everyone,
Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone
I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support.
The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing is
specified in terms of the multimedia side apart from saying that there
is a 'media
On 1/24/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote:
For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
module in the phone
I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not
sure how an
Hi,
Sometime ago there was a patch for Dillo (when it was still alpha) for
supporting SSL. However, I don't know of any open-source browser for
embedded systems based on GTK+ 2 that supports SSL and Javascript, so this
could be an interesting project.
Pedro Aguilar
Perhaps, but:
- They seem
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, Dave Crossland dave at lab6.com wrote:
Hi Sean,
On 23/01/07, David Ford david at blue-labs.org wrote:
You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states
in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU. He also
clearly stated We'll just
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
The accelerometer can allow you to know what directions the phone
went, and 3d orientation (rotations and stuff). The compass, would
just be for calibration, because you can trust them all them time
(just put a compass
On 1/24/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be ideal to have a 3 axis accelerometer and a 3 axis
tilt sensor like the wii. Apparently the wii controller uses an IR
sensor to keep itself oriented relative to the game console; since the
phone doesn't have IR this wouldn't be
How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for
'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?
--pj
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Yeah.. I was using the accelerometer in my example to tell the program
what the phone orientation was so that you could limit distance without
having to touch the interface. If you had it set up to run from a free
external button, you could push it
And orient the phone and point and the phone
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the ethics here, go
and get the folks at GNU to change the name of their system to GNU/Mach
and _then_ come back to talk to _us_.
I might ask about that alright.
Why don't you harass
The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and
desist - YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos
available on mobile phones:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_mobile_video_encoder/
If we have a browser with Flash support
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the ethics here, go
and get the folks at GNU to change the name of their system to GNU/Mach
and _then_ come back to talk to
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Richard Franks wrote:
The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and
desist - YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos
available on mobile phones:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the ethics here, go
and get the folks at GNU to change the name of
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
instead?
So freedom has nothing to do with it?
I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean alright,
but IF you just wrote an apt description of our Agenda,
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote:
How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for
'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?
Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too
complex.. for slightly
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks
like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approach
is to have the manufacturer
Declan Naughton wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the ethics
here, go
and get the folks at
That is brilliant. As the parent of an 11-year old, I'd want a highly
configurable profile:
* Allow calls to/from (parents/grandparents/babysitter/etc.) anytime
* Allow calls to/from (list of friends) between 4pm and 9pm weekdays, 10-10pm
weekends only
* Allow a maximum of (x) outgoing calls
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
Some of the high schools here have really strict rules against kids
getting calls in class. I can understand it, but 1)Sometimes I need to
contact my daughter and 2)She can't always remember how she left the
ringer (on/off)
So
Richard Franks wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks
like options may be available.. although I gather the standard
On 1/24/07, Raymond Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Declan Naughton wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're
ke, 2007-01-24 kello 18:16 +, Al Johnson kirjoitti:
Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
In the context of getting video off of youtube or some other video
sites, eg. keepvid.com offers a service that deciphers the .flv (or what
have you) URL from the main
On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel..
No, they're certainly not. However, GNU _is_ and they're failing to give
appropriate credit to the principal developer of their system. So on what
basis are you
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
Not yet, no.
My daughter gets my current phone as soon as I get the Neo 1973 (unless my
wife wants it - she has priority.) My daughter gets my Neo V1 when V2 comes
out!
My goal of a
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
instead?
So freedom has nothing to do with it?
I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean
Well, but what about any free-lessons?
I know your problem very well, being a student myself.
I tried to solve it like you did, coding an application which
selects - depending on the cell-id my phone supplies - the
right profile. But I often get calls in times we have no school.
The phone just
From a personal standpoint I'd like to see a camera in the next version,
because I use the 2MP one in my phone very frequently. It's handy to have a
camera of some sort with me 100% of the time to catch random events - of
course it doesn't replace a real camera for situations where I can plan to
On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel..
No, they're certainly not. However, GNU
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
instead?
So freedom has nothing to do with it?
I wouldn't
On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
go?
I believe so. From
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001586.html
:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, Declan Naughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU
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Christian F.K. Schaller schreef:
Hi everyone,
Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone
I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support.
The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing is
On 1/24/07 11:47 AM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd certainly push for gstreamer...
As would I, but sometimes you've just gotta get things out the door...
I'd assume that when FIC gets hardware out, someone'll make it run gstreamer
in pretty short order.
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
The Free Your Phone post was perhaps the most interesting announcement
we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation
for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's
Here is my reason for using the term GNU/Linux.
It's fair to both the Linux developers and to the GNU project.
Why is it fair?
Well so far I have yet to see either a Linux userland or a
GNU kernel so it's a MIXED environment and should be treated
like that.
There are also other MIXED
Not sure if this fits the bill, but:
Gnash is a GNU Flash movie player
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered
On 1/24/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
go?
I believe so. From
I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming
across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is
there another list that is focused more on the development side of things?
I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please
Salve Sam!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
In case that I would have kids, I wouldn't either,
it is because of the price, but also because it isn't rough enough.
Some more stuff for kids:
see my mail OpenMoko/Neo1973 is
Le mercredi 24 janvier 2007 à 14:34 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming
across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is
there another list that is focused more on the development side of things?
I
ke, 2007-01-24 kello 15:05 -0500, David Ford kirjoitti:
I don't wish to continue this ludicrous debate [...]
Those of you that threaten to unsubscribe from the list because others
of us choose not to follow your religion or keep debating.
First of all, if you're too emotional to see that what
Having gps and highres screen on board suggets that the phone is well poised
for standalone GPS nav devices.
This alone makes it worth buying, what troubles me however is whether/when
there will be a quality vector map software available for it.
Is FIC in talks with some company now? I'm sure
Jonathan,
If you visit the wiki that Marc refers to, you will find entries for the build
enviroment and emulators, so you can start writing, compiling, and testing
simple programs.
M
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote:
Jonathan,
Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 22:26, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał:
As someone else said, we've been asked to do some homework with the
OpenEmbedded.org build system. Maybe that was just to reserve adequate
space on the hard drive... (takes a lot!)
Add:
INHERIT += rm_work
into conf/local.conf and
Jonathan,
Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make a
sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned this:
Also, at this time, the following community dedicated websites
will be available:
* http://openmoko.org/ -- for the actual
Thanks for the hint!
Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build host)
format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the target
format (armv4t IIUC)?
(Can't find gpe-watch native after a bitbake gpe-watch. Well, sounds
sensible, I did not ask for it - but I am
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 22:58 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote:
Jonathan,
Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make
a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned
this:
* http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects ---
Michael,
English is not my native tongue and I certainly didn't mean we wouldn't help
anybody out. I just meant that we as a community have nothing more than this
list and the wiki for now. So apologies for that.
Regards,
Marc.
On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None of
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 23:00, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał:
Thanks for the hint!
Please reply UNDER post.
Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build
host) format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the
target format (armv4t IIUC)?
MACHINE = native
Am Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 23:09 schrieb Marc Verwerft:
2. The chip in the Neo1973 is a Global Locate AGPS. Anybody know what
type? Hammerhead maybe?
It is probably the same chipset as in ipaq hw6[59]15:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SableGPS
3. I understand
I'm more than certain that the OpenMoko crew is extremely busy with many
important efforts right now, but it should be a very simple task to open a
new mailing list. Doing so - sooner than later - would be hugely beneficial
in the immediate sense, as it would diversify the list traffic so that
Salve Sean!
Thanks for letting use those pictures. But in order to be _absolutely_ sure,
the wikipedia people would like something more formal. Please have a look at
this page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates and send
them the 'declaration of consent' in the rectangle if
On 24/01/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we were to lose the FSF perspective at any stage down the road, then
we could end up only able to buy highly sophisticated yet crippled
devices which actively impose upon our Freedoms. Like now, but worse.
In that sense, I imagine the
On 24/01/07, Dominik Smogór [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is FIC in talks with some company now? I'm sure that OSS devs will put a
fervent effort to write/adopt a free replacement and I'm sure they (we, If I
manage to get some time off) will succeed, but it's the data that matters
and I don't know of
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 00:17 schrieb Dave Crossland:
The presence of a proprietary userland binary in the main/official
distribution makes it a crippled device which actively impose upon our
Freedoms.
IMHO the right way to deal with this particular problem is to break
the GL
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