On 2/21/07, ryan lerch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
openmoko.com was the only official openmoko website until openmoko.org
was released about a week ago. AFAIK, there was never any sort of
redirect from openmoko.com to openmoko.org - (where all the content
is). Hopefully one can get done soon...
openmoko.com was the only official openmoko website until openmoko.org
was released about a week ago. AFAIK, there was never any sort of
redirect from openmoko.com to openmoko.org - (where all the content
is). Hopefully one can get done soon...
hope this helps...
ryanlerch
On 2/21/07, Ben <[EMA
On 2/21/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Last night, when I checked openmoko.com, all the content had
disappeared. I was pretty excited, thinking this meant new content
(hopefully involving ordering a phone) was about to appear. It's
still empty anybody know what's up?
I don't
Last night, when I checked openmoko.com, all the content had
disappeared. I was pretty excited, thinking this meant new content
(hopefully involving ordering a phone) was about to appear. It's
still empty anybody know what's up?
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GPS is much more accurate for time information, but GSM is "good enough" for
knowing the time! Most GSM phones do sync to the network. Hopefully there
are some "undocumented" commands for the GSM module that are unknown at this
time. NTP over GPRS is a solution looking for a problem IMHO. Here is
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Based on ballpark estimates from other similar devices, it's probably
around 70mW.
This will really hurt if you keep it on all the time, fortunately, for
most applications, you probably don't need to.
If it works at 2s on, 30s off
On 2/20/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/20/07, Pranav Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, so
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:29 -0700, mathew davis wrote:
> That is totally understandable. I can see that side of it also. I
> will use the wiki and mailing lists for now the combination can like
> Joe said cover everything. It will be nice to have the forums up when
> Phase 2 starts though.
You
I think Gmail handles mailing lists pretty well. It works just fine
with this list. I just added a filter that labels and archives all
mail to the list. Gmail handles the threading very well and will even
let you see old messages you previously deleted for each thread.
But obviously, I only se
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 21:20 +0100, kenneth marken wrote:
> Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 February 2007 21:05:35 kenneth marken wrote:
> >> its fully possible in some forums to have proper threading...
> >>
> >
> > And that's mostly true (leaving mails from broken email clients aside) fo
On 2/20/07, Pranav Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
> >
> > Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
> > input ports don't work, etc. what will be the proces
Hi,
I'd been assuming that the PCB and/or schematics for the Neo1973 had been
made available along with the source code. Looking now, I realise that they
haven't.
I'm a hardware kind of person, and I've been looking forward to creating
add-ons and modifications to my Neo1973 the second it arriv
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 21:05:35 kenneth marken wrote:
its fully possible in some forums to have proper threading...
And that's mostly true (leaving mails from broken email clients aside) for
mailinglists as well. I think in Thunderbird you should barely be able to
Sorry to bend the thread a little, but I wanted to respond to Andreas'
T9 comment. My position is neutral; T9 seems to work well for some
people and some purposes, not so well for others.
These folks did a decent usability test that should be useful to
consider when designing the onscreen keypad/
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 21:05:35 kenneth marken wrote:
> its fully possible in some forums to have proper threading...
>
And that's mostly true (leaving mails from broken email clients aside) for
mailinglists as well. I think in Thunderbird you should barely be able to
tell whether you are u
Paul Bonser wrote:
On 2/20/07, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> which seems to have a lot of what you're looking for (a lot of the
>> discussion on the various mailling lists seems to end up getting
>> distilled into wiki articles).
>
> It's interesting t
On 2/20/07, Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> which seems to have a lot of what you're looking for (a lot of the
>> discussion on the various mailling lists seems to end up getting
>> distilled into wiki articles).
>
> It's interesting to note that most you
mathew davis writes:
>
>It's funny that you mention that I am only 24 so I guess I would fit in the
>youngster category. I don't even know what usenet is. I guess
>that's why
usenet is a huge, distributed bulletin board system with topics groups
on every conceivable (and many inconceivable) subj
Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * mathew davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 19:57]:
>>It's funny that you mention that I am only 24 so I guess I would fit in
>>the youngster category. I don't even know what usenet is. I guess that's
> usenet, news => it's just a very email-
"mathew davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's funny that you mention that I am only 24 so I guess I would fit in the
> youngster category. I don't even know what usenet is.
Usenet was (well, is, but it has been dying for a long time) a global
system in which RFC-822 style messages (same form
* mathew davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 19:57]:
>It's funny that you mention that I am only 24 so I guess I would fit in
>the youngster category. I don't even know what usenet is. I guess that's
usenet, news => it's just a very email-ish forum system. It's older
than the "Internet" ;)
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 22:16 -0800, Tim Newsom wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:35, ryan lerch wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > just a friendly reminder that we are getting a lot of people
> > subscribing to and posting to this community list that may not know
> > all the mailing list etiquette that you do
* Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 19:57]:
> My children (I've got one who just finished his undergrad degree in
> CS, and a second who is a pre-med) don't send much email, but are
> constantly texting.
Well, I do texting mostly on phones with a sensible keyboard or
grafitti entry system.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> which seems to have a lot of what you're looking for (a lot of the
>> discussion on the various mailling lists seems to end up getting
>> distilled into wiki articles).
>
> It's interesting to note that most youngsters seem to prefer forums, and most
> of us old-timers
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 19:57]:
> It's interesting to note that most youngsters seem to prefer forums, and most
> of us old-timers (IIRC you're my age, Joe) prefer mailing lists. I wonder why
> that is?
I think it's not a question of age as such. It's mostly a question of
t
On 2/20/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>It's interesting to note that most youngsters seem to prefer forums, and
most
>of us old-timers (IIRC you're my age, Joe) prefer mailing lists. I wonder
why
>that is?
I don't know how old you are, but I'm afraid I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>It's interesting to note that most youngsters seem to prefer forums, and most
>of us old-timers (IIRC you're my age, Joe) prefer mailing lists. I wonder why
>that is?
I don't know how old you are, but I'm afraid I count as an oldster
these days... there are some defin
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah, I'd really prefer to keep what we have now until phase 2 (end-user
mode). We just don't have the bandwidth to moderate a forum now.
That is totally understandable. I can see that side of it also. I will use
the wiki and mailing list
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 18:22 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:54:56AM +, Ole Tange wrote:
> > On 2/17/07, denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I got a question. Is it allowed to post screenshots from MacOS
> > >applications and use them as a reference for the layout and l
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
mathew davis writes:
Hi I am kind of new to mailing lists so forgive me if I am steping on
anyones toes.
I am used to working with forums more than mailing lists and find them to be
a little easier for newcomers to work with than mailing lists. Is t
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
>
> Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
> input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty ;-)
I'm not sure
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:29 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> FWIW, I don't find forums any more useable than mailling lists.
With the addition of many great searching / archiving properties. And
(most important for me) offline mode ;-)
> On
> the other hand, wikis seem to end up with lots of the so
Andreas Kostyrka writes:
> (E.g. experiences with laptops show, that a dead display is
> practically never repaired.)
That's because the price of spare parts is normally jacked so high
that companies often make more money on replacement parts than on the
initial product's sale.
>>I find it u
mathew davis writes:
>Hi I am kind of new to mailing lists so forgive me if I am steping on
>anyones toes.
>
>I am used to working with forums more than mailing lists and find them to be
>a little easier for newcomers to work with than mailing lists. Is there a
>plan for a forum? I think that it
Are you asking for some kind of "cover everything I can do to this
device" warranty? If yes how about we sell you one for US$350?
If it has unlimited replacements for a year, maybe! ;) lol
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Hi I am kind of new to mailing lists so forgive me if I am steping on
anyones toes.
I am used to working with forums more than mailing lists and find them to be
a little easier for newcomers to work with than mailing lists. Is there a
plan for a forum? I think that it may not be as important to
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:08 -0600, el jefe delito wrote:
> Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say
> by leaning on it against a desk or something?
hehe...sorry man. Couldn't help you here ;-)
> I find it unlikely but it would really put minds at ease when spending
>
Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Based on ballpark estimates from other similar devices, it's probably
> around 70mW.
>
> This will really hurt if you keep it on all the time, fortunately, for
> most applications, you probably don't need to.
> If it works at 2s on, 30s off, as seems like
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:47:23PM +1100, Mark Chandler wrote:
Would it be possible to keep the Neo's internal clock accurate using
time stamps from GPS information?
yes.
That is only during GPS being powered up, of co
* el jefe delito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 17:20]:
>Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say by
>leaning on it against a desk or something?
I fear not. It's the one most probable way to kill the phone, and
probably the most expensive part to replace.
(E.g.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 01:58:38PM +, Ole Tange wrote:
> On 2/19/07, Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>From reviewing the 'Recent Changes', I have drafted a (currently still)
> >small list of rules for Wiki editing. It is available at
> >http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Wiki
Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say by
leaning on it against a desk or something?
I find it unlikely but it would really put minds at ease when spending a
small fortune on a phone; plus it might be that extra incentive to lure even
more to this phone...
Interesting, then I wonder why all these projects are cropping up now?
Linux 2.6 maybe? 90nm? Batteries?
Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> * Martin Lefkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 15:55]:
>
>> The fact that you can buy a GSM/GPRS module that runs off the AT command
>> set is the big innovation
* Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 14:52]:
> On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
> >> input ports don't work, etc. what will be the proces
* Martin Lefkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070220 15:55]:
> The fact that you can buy a GSM/GPRS module that runs off the AT command
> set is the big innovation. I don't know how long this has been
> possible, but I've only heard about this recently.
Well, that's not such a big innovation. HTC seems
They are completely closed because they are very intimate with the
chipsets they are using. In fact the chipsets are specifically designed
for the company that builds the phone. While you can buy something with
the same core, typically you can't buy the chips that are actually in
the phone.
The
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:37:24PM -0600, Steven ** wrote:
> > On a related note, could an iPod be connected to the Neo?
Yes.
On lun, 2007-02-19 at 18:24 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> i don't know why there is a _technical_ reason for not doing so. But
> then, Apple seems to do all kinds of s
Ole Tange schrieb:
> On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
>> > Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
>> > input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
>> Of course we'll have a
On 2/20/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Harald Welte wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:47:23PM +1100, Mark Chandler wrote:
>> Would it be possible to keep the Neo's internal clock accurate using
>> time stamps from GPS information?
> yes.
That is only during GPS being p
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 08:57, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote:
> 2007/2/20, larpoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> > A few questions about USB connectivity
>
> Hi! Excuse me for not replying on each of your questions but try to
> answer yourself ;) Basically your Neo1973 phone would be running linux
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:47:23PM +1100, Mark Chandler wrote:
>>> Would it be possible to keep the Neo's internal clock accurate using
>>> time stamps from GPS information?
>
>> yes.
>
> That is only during GPS being powered up, of course. We
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
>
> Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
> input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty ;-)
I'm not sure
2007/2/20, larpoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,
A few questions about USB connectivity
Hi! Excuse me for not replying on each of your questions but try to
answer yourself ;) Basically your Neo1973 phone would be running linux
with kernel 2.6.x so all modules should work on your phone just like
on y
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
>
> Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
> input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty ;-)
I'm not sure of the exact terms at this point. Probably something
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