Hi,
Does NEO1973 support AT command, such as call wait, multiparty call
control, etc? Althought there are BP functions, I don't know where I can
find this information. Can I send AT command directly to BP in development
board via serial port?
Cherrs,
Jeremy wrote:
I just wanted to give a little head-up about Cingular data plans. They are quite confusing, and
I've looked into them in the past and read several forums at Cingular's website regarding the issue.
Essentially, the cheaper unlimited plan (smart phone?) gives you walled garden
On 12-Mar-07, at 11:53 AM, Ian Stirling wrote:
Dean Collins wrote:
Hey guys, you're missing the point. You need to stop thinking of the
openmoko device being a standalone unit, you are always connected to
your pc when in mobile phone coverage. Just use your gprs data link.
Start thinking of
Dear Community,
OpenMoko is built around the philosophy that far more knowledge exists
outside the walls of a corporation than within. Internally, we're
struggling with two issues. So we're throwing this out, hoping that some
of you have can help us move past our current crossroads:
1) We
Since no one else has lept on this one, I'll pipe in with my comment.
At the eTel conference, I asked Sean Moss-Pulz about this indirectly,
actually asking if the GSM module they're using is open enough for me
to download the details of their AT command set support.
Unfortunately, the GSM
Dnia wtorek, 13 marca 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz napisał:
OpenMoko is built around the philosophy that far more knowledge exists
outside the walls of a corporation than within. Internally, we're
struggling with two issues. So we're throwing this out, hoping that
some of you have can help us move
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:00 +0100, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello Sean,
1) We can't find a WiFi Chipset with GPL'ed drivers -- We know
this has been discussed (to death) on this list, but as we're
beginning work on the next summer hardware refresh we still can't seem
Intel's laptop-oriented chips have GPL drivers, albeit with binary
modules - but not *kernel* binary modules.
The 3945abg driver uses a binary userspace daemon and a binary on-chip
microcode:
http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
The 2200bg/2945abg driver relies on a binary on-chip firmware:
Atheros AR6K - check http://atheros.com/pt/AR6001Bulletins.htm , and for
the fully GPL'ed driver and SDIO stack please check
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdio-linux/
I hardly think you will find a better alternative ;)
Do you know if the on-chip MAC is a full MAC?
Last time I used an
Imre Kaloz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:00 +0100, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello Sean,
1) We can't find a WiFi Chipset with GPL'ed drivers -- We know
this has been discussed (to death) on this list, but as we're
beginning work on the next summer hardware refresh we
2007/3/13, dimitris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Intel's laptop-oriented chips have GPL drivers, albeit with binary
modules - but not *kernel* binary modules.
The 3945abg driver uses a binary userspace daemon and a binary on-chip
microcode:
http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
The 2200bg/2945abg driver
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 18:49:17 dimitris wrote:
Sean, given the uncertainty surrounding Wifi drivers, would an
externally-accessible SDIO slot be a better step for the next hw revision?
I would very much welcome a standard SD slot anyhow. SD cards are available in
bigger sizes than MicroSD.
I don't know much about the intel one except that I wouldn't be
surprised it downloaded the firmware into the chipset. I Broadcom also
does this as well as TI. There is an opensource version of the TI driver.
Getting attention from a Chipset manufacturer is another story.
Marty
Message: 7
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:49:17 +0100, dimitris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Atheros AR6K - check http://atheros.com/pt/AR6001Bulletins.htm , and for
the fully GPL'ed driver and SDIO stack please check
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdio-linux/
I hardly think you will find a better alternative ;)
I don't know much about the intel one except that I wouldn't be
surprised it downloaded the firmware into the chipset. I Broadcom also
does this as well as TI. There is an opensource version of the TI driver.
Getting attention from a Chipset manufacturer is another story.
Marty
Message: 7
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 18:49:17 dimitris wrote:
Sean, given the uncertainty surrounding Wifi drivers, would an
externally-accessible SDIO slot be a better step for the next hw revision?
I would very much welcome a standard SD slot anyhow. SD cards are
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 19:22:08 you wrote:
Don't know how much re-work that would require, but I really like that
idea. I already have 2GB and 4GB SD cards. I'm not overly thrilled
about having to use a different format.
SDIO has one disadvantage: the cards are rather pricey. The Spectec
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:03:48 +0100, Hans Cats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/3/13, dimitris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Intel's laptop-oriented chips have GPL drivers, albeit with binary
modules - but not *kernel* binary modules.
The 3945abg driver uses a binary userspace daemon and a binary on-chip
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:26:16 +0100, Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My only concern with a full SDIO slot is the bulk that it would
require. One thought could be to have 2 microSD slots since there is a
microSD WiFi card (http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdw823.htm). I would
think it
[the reply to issue bit me another time ;)]
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 17:51:00 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Marvell has some nice for larger devices (the 8388). But we need
one specifically for mobile phones (like the 8686). If somebody
can help us find the right vendor, we'll give you a free
Dnia wtorek, 13 marca 2007, Imre Kaloz napisał:
Regarding the USB ones, the Atmel is pretty much EOL'ed as far as
I know, and the driver for the others are not stable nor too portable.
Not portable? There are users or ARM (Xscale, IOP) machines which use
ralink and zydas dongles with their
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:46:57 -0400
Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good to see things moving forward on the wifi issue. But,
I was going to be a developer for this platform, but in light of my
recent thread, and the lack of wifi support, I don't think I can, at
least not until it's
Scott Rushforth wrote:
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Not sure what this has to do with Wifi?
I think part of the issue is that the openmoko is a GSM device,
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:00:14 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 13 marca 2007, Imre Kaloz napisał:
Regarding the USB ones, the Atmel is pretty much EOL'ed as far as
I know, and the driver for the others are not stable nor too portable.
Not portable? There are
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
I HIGHLY doubt (I'd actually be willing to bet) that the Neo is
incapable of working with the US carriers. Now, that doesn't mean
that it will be easy in the first few weeks/months of the developers
edition of the device, but it is not a hardware
El Tuesday 13 March 2007 22:10:03 Mike escribió:
Johnathan, it's not as simple as just a GPRS network in the US. See
my thread What mobile service to get. There are 12 data plans offered
by cingular. Different prices. Some of them have Blackberry in the
title. Can neo work with those? How
2007/3/13, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The openmoko people had better provide us some information about what
will work and what won't, or I'm out and advising others to do the same.
We, others, don't need babysitting. Especially we don't expect Asian
hardware manufacturer will provide any
Rod Whitby wrote:
I can't believe this thread.
Anyone who is going to be a phone developer should be able to do their own
research on phone plans.
With the attitude being displaying (I'm out and advising others to do the
same), I wonder what the reaction would be to a P1 device with bugs in
2007/3/13, Edwin Lock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And I don't think there will be many countries that have cheaper
prices...correct me if I'm wrong!
http://msmobiles.com/catalog/i.php/578.html
In Poland flat rate GPRS/EDGE/3G is available for private person for
~EUR 15 (cheapest option, data
I don't see what plan you should be getting has anything really to do
with Openmoko, other than helpful people relaying their experiences with
data plans in the USA.
Regardless of what phone you get you still have to navigate through the
different plans and what they mean. If you think OpenMoko
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
Mike wrote:
SmartPhone Connect and Data Connect ONLY?
All t-mobile data plans will work? All?
Are you with the openmoko project or is your advice conjecture? Is
your advice official?
This is my point.
I would shut up since on this subthread, I look like the only
Mike wrote:
SmartPhone Connect and Data Connect ONLY?
All t-mobile data plans will work? All?
Are you with the openmoko project or is your advice conjecture? Is
your advice official?
This is my point.
I would shut up since on this subthread, I look like the only one with
the problem.
Mike wrote:
SmartPhone Connect and Data Connect ONLY?
All t-mobile data plans will work? All?
Are you with the openmoko project or is your advice conjecture? Is your
advice official?
This is my point.
I would shut up since on this subthread, I look like the only one with
the
Marcel de Jong wrote:
What exactly do you expect for an answer, Mike?
I expect something official for an answer from someone official.
Are you going to Nokia/Motorola/Sony-Ericsson to demand they tell you
whether their GSM phones works with T-Mobile US / Cingular?
Of course it will work
Rod Whitby wrote:
Please consider that it may not be the actual question you are asking,
but the way in which you are asking it.
Threatening OpenMoko by saying that you will tell lots of other people
to leave the project is not a useful way to get your question answered ...
I disagree.
I have a much more important question, however: will the Neo work with
european electrons, or will I need to import asian ones? If I'd need to
import a new set of electrons to use for charging my battery every time
it runs out, it'd become very expensive very soon. If, on the other
hand, I could
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:36 -0400
Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it was a different company, it wouldn't be open source, and, thus,
they wouldn't need a developer preview. It's a circular point.
Exactly, Mike.
And now that we are all on the same page about this being an
open-source
On 3/14/07, Martin Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't you collect all the information that came on this email list
and post it to the Wiki, or FAQ?
Marty
Aha! Thank you Marty, that is a way out of this Merry-Go_round.
Otherwise I was thinking about the normal advice Don't feed
Hi Sean,
What about the Marvell® 88W8385 module used on the wifistix
Open source drivers can be found at http://gumstix.com
Cheers
Grahame Jordan
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community,
OpenMoko is built around the philosophy that far more knowledge exists
outside the walls of a
Hello,
On 3/13/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) We can't find a WiFi Chipset with GPL'ed drivers -- We know
this has been discussed (to death) on this list, but as we're
beginning work on the next summer hardware refresh we still can't seem
to find a vendor that meets
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:07:45 +0100, Grahame Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Sean,
What about the Marvell® 88W8385 module used on the wifistix
Open source drivers can be found at http://gumstix.com
Cheers
Grahame Jordan
Hello Grahame,
No open source drivers for that either. If you
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