Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Tim Newsom
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:09, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I like this -- except it doesn't quite match my sample-of-one user study. My degree-of-security-wanted is by data, not by application. The same app is used for things like VINs and tire sizes and oil filters for cars (no security) and for student p

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: It's also not clear to me that more than two levels of security (open/password protected) are needed -- where password protected means encrypted using whatever scheme we've got. Personally. Unencrypted: Anything that you might want on display on the screensaver and don't

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Tim Newsom writes: >Ok.. Lets assume for a moment that there is an encryption / security >engine.. And its hooked through dbus somehow.. Lets also assume there >is a mechanism that handles all requests to save data from any >application... Will just call it the save data mechanism.. (Grin)...

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jim McDonald writes: >> >Yep but on the flipside if you have some data that you want encrypted >then encrypting all of it won't do any harm (perhaps a slightly slower >response time, and assuming some sort of key caching going on the >occasional entering of a decryption token, perhaps on unlo

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Tim Newsom
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:25, Jim McDonald wrote: Clare Johnstone wrote: On 3/20/07, Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: continually asking the user to decide which data is to be encrypted and which not. There is the concept of "folders" which could be used :) clare True, but that's just

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Clare Johnstone wrote: On 3/20/07, Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: continually asking the user to decide which data is to be encrypted and which not. There is the concept of "folders" which could be used :) clare True, but that's just another choice to be made when storing the data

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Clare Johnstone
On 3/20/07, Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: continually asking the user to decide which data is to be encrypted and which not. There is the concept of "folders" which could be used :) clare ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@list

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: [Encrypting data] We certainly want a global scheme -- but I think we do want a per-data-item granularity. I've certainly got things on my phone whose protection I don't care about (shopping lists) and other things that have legal implications (notes on how various students'

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jim McDonald writes: >Jonathon Suggs wrote: >> One of the biggest mantra's I hear coming from the FOSS camp is "choice" >> and so keeping with the whole practice what you preach ideal, I think >> the level of encryption should be a user configurable preference. >> >I'd caveat that with comment t

Neo-use idea

2007-03-19 Thread Paul Jimenez
If someone wants to repurpose the neo hardware, check out what the guys at http://www.environmental-studies.de/products/pet-tracking/pet-tracking.h tml are doing. They're sold out for now, but they might be worth talking to to see if they want to try and start from a base Neo and just add some cus

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Jonathon Suggs wrote: One of the biggest mantra's I hear coming from the FOSS camp is "choice" and so keeping with the whole practice what you preach ideal, I think the level of encryption should be a user configurable preference. I'd caveat that with comment that one of the biggest bugbears a

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jonathon Suggs
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 22:57 +0100, Marcel de Jong wrote: > >From a user's standpoint: > I do not think I'd like to enter a passphrase or any other measures > just to open up my contacts list (which is after all a piece of > personal data). Also for opening my calendar and such actions on the > devi

Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

2007-03-19 Thread Frank de Lange
Martin Raißle wrote: As far as I know there is not even an adobe flashplayer for amd64 on linux .. why should there be one for ARM ? In addition the adobe flashplayer is not free .. maybe we use swfdec or gnash .. of course they do not have the same funtionality but they will do the job :) And

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Marcel de Jong
From a user's standpoint: I do not think I'd like to enter a passphrase or any other measures just to open up my contacts list (which is after all a piece of personal data). Also for opening my calendar and such actions on the device, I'd prefer to have no passphrase. On my current phone I only

Re: Google SoC, To-Do

2007-03-19 Thread Jon Phillips
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 11:40 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Dnia niedziela, 18 marca 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: > > > I have already posted an application for Footer. > > > Maybe as sidework I will write To-Do app. I definetly need one on > > modile, and quite complicated one. > > Open

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Burdette
Steven ** wrote: I noticed the other day that MythTV has an option to "Enable Network Remote Control interface". Looks like this is just a port you can telnet to and pass commands. I intend to write a remote control app that would run on OpenMoko. Cause I think that would be awesome. Of cours

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
You mean like this except with a coffee maker? http://xe.bz/aho/24/ No ;) Marty Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:30:09 +0530 From: "Anil Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank u, The same idea made me think of a way to link open moko with real world ..'Can open moko make coffee'.. The inte

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Steven **
I noticed the other day that MythTV has an option to "Enable Network Remote Control interface". Looks like this is just a port you can telnet to and pass commands. I intend to write a remote control app that would run on OpenMoko. Cause I think that would be awesome. Of course, it would only r

Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

2007-03-19 Thread Martin Raißle
As far as I know there is not even an adobe flashplayer for amd64 on linux .. why should there be one for ARM ? In addition the adobe flashplayer is not free .. maybe we use swfdec or gnash .. of course they do not have the same funtionality but they will do the job :) martin ___

MythTV server is available..

2007-03-19 Thread Anil Franklin
Mythcontrol server implimentation using bluetooth : http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/mythcontrol ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 19 March 2007 20:44:55 Ben Burdette wrote: > A custom remote control app for > the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. IIRC there's a few Amarok scripts that expose a webinterface. Or you could look into Bemused. pgpFWOjuWX9n7.pgp Description: PGP sign

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Brett Schwarz
- Original Message From: kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:06:56 PM Subject: Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal kenneth marken wrote: > Ben Burdette wrote: >> >>> >>> I think that the Neo1973 is both a

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Anil Franklin
I thought this service is already available in moko 'bluetooth services' ...Otherwise it has to be there... We have implemented the same idea for Nokia s60 (Symbian OS) phones using bluetooth... *There u could control the media playing on pc..from a distance.. *You can browse net from a pytho

Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

2007-03-19 Thread Dossy Shiobara
Sorry, I'm late to the party, but is anyone working with Adobe to get a build of Flash Player 9 for OpenMoko and/or ARM/Samsung's SoC chips? -- Dossy -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ "He realized the faste

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread kenneth marken
kenneth marken wrote: Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself i

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread kenneth marken
Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of elect

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of elect

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Anil Franklin
Thank u, The same idea made me think of a way to link open moko with real world ..'Can open moko make coffee'.. The interface could be either through usb or RF .. For the above mentioned ideas like connecting phone to external circuitries like microcontroller , i think it is a good idea t

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: Hi, Am Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:28:28 +0100 schrieb Sven Neuhaus: With regards to encryption - it'd be great if microSD cards can contain dm-crypt'ed partitions. It's probably rather trivial to add this. Partitions are a major usability nightmare IMHO. That is th

Re: "Can OpenMoko Make Coffee?" - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Burdette
I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Tobias Gruetzmacher
Hi, Am Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:28:28 +0100 schrieb Sven Neuhaus: > With regards to encryption - it'd be great if microSD cards can contain > dm-crypt'ed partitions. It's probably rather trivial to add this. Partitions are a major usability nightmare IMHO. That is the reason my proposal focused on en

Re: OpenMoko at Chaosradio

2007-03-19 Thread Esra Kummer
Esra Kummer wrote: There is an interview with Harald Welte ("Senior Software Archtitect System Level" of the project)about the OpenMoko project. Length 01:16:36h. > I guess an URL would have been nice ;-) > > http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Oh dear I am sorry. It's always the same with w

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:16:30 +0100 schrieb Alexander E Genaud: > Secondly, many banks and corporations require authentication with the > assistance of a token. Some devices display a seemingly random number > every minute or so, while others accept pin codes and challenges. It > might be di

wireless programming

2007-03-19 Thread Chuck Pareto
Sorry for the mass mail, but I want to know if anyone has any experience with wireless ad hoc network programming. Specifically dealing with peer discovery. I would appreciate any help and can be contacted through my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko

RE: Crossroads

2007-03-19 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community, A big thanks again for all your feedback! We're meeting with vendors this week and are optimistic about our chances to find a WiFi module. We'll keep you all posted and announce the winner of the free phone once we find the right solution. As for the UI / Application developer wo

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Sven Neuhaus
Joel Newkirk wrote: > Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: > >> What I'm proposing is a user-friendly encryption scheme of the data the >> user stores in his phone, so any illegitimate user will not be able to >> get personal data about the owner of the phone. > I'd like a good gestural interface for aut

Re: Google SoC, To-Do

2007-03-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 18 marca 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: > I have already posted an application for Footer. > Maybe as sidework I will write To-Do app. I definetly need one on > modile, and quite complicated one. OpenedHand created application named 'Tasks' which would be trivial to port to O