Re: Data backup service
On 1 Aug 2007, at 11:40, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Hi, Do you know if a phone data (contacts, todo, ...) online backup service is available already? I'm sure this service exists somewhere already, I'd just like to have it on the openmoko platform :) I am ready to help port it if needed, or implement a free service. A bit like Google Browser Sync, but for phones, not only browsers. Any pointers ? There's quite a few using SyncML, see links section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenEmbedded on Suse 10.1
Hi, I'm unable to setup Openembedded on Suse 10.1. The instructions at - http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro state to install apt4rpm and then proceed with debian instructions. When I follow the Debian instructions to include deb http://www.openembedded.org/dl/ packages/ in /etc/apt/sources.list and run |apt-get update; apt-get install openembedded-essential| , I get the following error: ||E: Type 'deb' is not known in on line 20 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list I've tried to manually install the open-embedded-essential rpms but there are a whole bunch of dependencies. Has anyone encountered a similar problem or got OpenEmbedded working on Suse 10.1? Thanks in advance, Rukhsana ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
Great ! Thanks. On 8/1/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Aug 2007, at 11:40, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Any pointers ? There's quite a few using SyncML, see links section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
On Wednesday 01 August 2007 12:44, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Great ! Thanks. On 8/1/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Aug 2007, at 11:40, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Any pointers ? There's quite a few using SyncML, see links section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML Check out funambol, http://www.funambol.com/opensource/ . There's a single file installer and you can be up and running pretty quickly. Bear in mind that the push email clients for non nokia devices appear to be available only if you buy the commercial version Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
On Wednesday 01 August 2007 14:13, Giles Jones wrote: On 1 Aug 2007, at 13:56, Andy Powell wrote: Check out funambol, http://www.funambol.com/opensource/ . There's a single file installer and you can be up and running pretty quickly. Bear in mind that the push email clients for non nokia devices appear to be available only if you buy the commercial version Andy Funambol is using SyncML. So I think the fact it's an open standard and has good support means it's a prime candidate for OpenMoko. Yes, that was why I suggested it :) It can do push email as well as sync. my normal phone is a SE P910i which seems to be the worst device ever. I can sync contacts and calendar but not email or notes... afaik it's the phone's fault. Push email, as I said, is unavailable to me because it's not a nokia/windows mobile device. :( Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
On 1 Aug 2007, at 13:56, Andy Powell wrote: Check out funambol, http://www.funambol.com/opensource/ . There's a single file installer and you can be up and running pretty quickly. Bear in mind that the push email clients for non nokia devices appear to be available only if you buy the commercial version Andy Funambol is using SyncML. So I think the fact it's an open standard and has good support means it's a prime candidate for OpenMoko. It can do push email as well as sync. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
The most important meeting probably globally regarding the future of wireless communications happened yesterday. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/700-mhz-spectrum-auction.htm l Any thoughts in the OpenMoko community? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
On 1 Aug 2007, at 14:38, Andy Powell wrote: my normal phone is a SE P910i which seems to be the worst device ever. I can sync contacts and calendar but not email or notes... afaik it's the phone's fault. Push email, as I said, is unavailable to me because it's not a nokia/windows mobile device. :( Andy The 910 was well regarded, you should try a P990, buggy, bad support (SE were going to stop fixing bugs until a user revolt changed their mind). You can get a P990 for 195 UK pounds now, it's plummeted about 350 UKP since launch. Anyway, if SyncML is implemented (it's in the wiki already0 then the choice of web provider will be up to the end user. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
I am disappointed. I wanted the FCC to support open networks and open services as well. I really hope Google wins this thing...for the sake of projects like ours. In today's society, we are at the mercy of Verizon, ATT, Sprint, etc. in terms what we are required to pay for mobile phone and internet access. I am not a fan of regulation myself (the reason I support open source products) but by providing those 4 open requirements, I think it would really help to cut down on some of these monopolies. Honestly, I feel it's ridiculous that this utility is not better managed. So many great innovations would come from having an open mobile network (that does not have a primary objective of making money). -Kyle On 8/1/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most important meeting probably globally regarding the future of wireless communications happened yesterday. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/700-mhz-spectrum-auction.html Any thoughts in the OpenMoko community? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?
On 8/1/07, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, evas have a cairo backend, so you can mix both if required. Does it mean you can render evas in clutter then (i'm not thinking running clutter on the neo, it's a general purpose question)? If cairo can render to clutter, yes, but it would be pointless as Evas already have OpenGL backend with its primitives mapped directly. But you could render to it and user clutter itself to move the rendered UI (like render to one window and move it 3d space, evas is just 2d, remember that). Other backends, like xrender, opengl, fb and directfb are supported as well. Regarding opengl, is the backend opengl es compliant, or does it rely on opengl features that don't count in the opengl es subset ? I never checked it, but i fear its not, however primitives are simple enough to translate to /ES standard. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (81) 9927 0010 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
I'll second the disappointed verdict. But, then again, were we really expecting Commissioners Tate, McDowell and Martin to see the light and pursue the public interest instead of incumbent telco/cableco interests? Really?? The compromise struck will likely, as most FCC orders tend to, be litigated beyond recognition and ultimately maintain the status quo; i.e. domination by a small group of incumbents as deregulation proponents assure us all the while that anti-trust will protect us. I must admit, I was looking for a potential alternative broadband possibility and not with openmoko as much in mind. You'd think this would be a real win for openmoko . . . ha ha ha, whoah, let me catch my breath . . . let's wait and see the specific language of the order and then see what people think. On 8/1/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am disappointed. I wanted the FCC to support open networks and open services as well. I really hope Google wins this thing...for the sake of projects like ours. In today's society, we are at the mercy of Verizon, ATT, Sprint, etc. in terms what we are required to pay for mobile phone and internet access. I am not a fan of regulation myself (the reason I support open source products) but by providing those 4 open requirements, I think it would really help to cut down on some of these monopolies. Honestly, I feel it's ridiculous that this utility is not better managed. So many great innovations would come from having an open mobile network (that does not have a primary objective of making money). -Kyle On 8/1/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most important meeting probably globally regarding the future of wireless communications happened yesterday. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/700-mhz-spectrum-auction.html Any thoughts in the OpenMoko community? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Mischa Beitz http://mischa.beitz.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch - I had been wondering why my order had not been processed, and yet many numbers after my order number (orders 2010) were being processed. I responded to the YES_I_DO immediately I received the email. But apparently, after I finally got a response from the obviously very busy OpenMoko crew, they did not receive my YES_I_DO!!! Take heart, at least, that you're not alone. I've just been told that I've magically drifted to the 2nd batch despite being #1881 and replying YES_I_DO within 50 minutes. Right now I'm trying to get some sense of when the 2nd batch might ship so as to figure out how that relates to my travel plans :-) --Jon Radel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Info: Neo1973 + T-Mobile Germany + USIM
Hello guys and girls, since I recieved my Neo yesterday (on my birthday ^^) I was playing around a bit. Today I was able to test the GSM functions. I use some T-Mobile USIMS (at moment 2 tested, both works!), but see: AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN=mypin STR=`AT+CPIN=mypin' RSTR=`+EXT ERROR: 5' AT+COPS STR=`AT+COPS' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registered (home network) LocationAreaCode = 0x950C CellID = 0xC1DA RSTR=`OK' AEVENT: Signal Quality: 15 RSTR=`OK' ATDmynumber STR=`ATDmynumber' EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: UNKNOWN EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: PROCEED EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: SYNC EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: PROGRESS EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: ALERT EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: DISCONNECT RSTR=`BUSY' EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: RELEASE RSTR=`OK' EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: UNKNOWN EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: PROCEED EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: SYNC EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: PROGRESS EVENT: Outgoing Call Progress: ALERTSTR=`EVENT:' RSTR=`OK' All I can say: Yeah! :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
I'm pretty indifferent the the entire thing, and here is why: 1. It's the FCC no surprises they like big business, and the ruling only makes any difference in one country. 2. Cell phones won't magically change to a 700Mhz band, it could all be bought up by crab people for all we know. 3. If all the rules were passed the frequencies would have less value. Radio towers are expensive and you cannot charge people for them. Consumer electronics are cheap(to make) and people will pay for them. If a company isn't guaranteed profits from CE, then they have less real incentive to put up towers. (they still have service charges). 4. Nobody really restricts devices anyway they just use retail power to push their phones. So point 3 because mostly irrelevant either way. In an ideal situation this would create many new services with innovative new devices, but in practice I wouldn't bet on it. But I'm not sure that it would actually work. The only real benefit is to content suppliers or advertisers for said content supplier. Imagine a cheap services with the latest devices and a Google add bar on every page (im pretty sure thats what Google wants). Time will tell if this really makes any difference at all. Just my opinion, but its pretty flame retardants. On 8/1/07, Mischa Beitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second the disappointed verdict. But, then again, were we really expecting Commissioners Tate, McDowell and Martin to see the light and pursue the public interest instead of incumbent telco/cableco interests? Really?? The compromise struck will likely, as most FCC orders tend to, be litigated beyond recognition and ultimately maintain the status quo; i.e. domination by a small group of incumbents as deregulation proponents assure us all the while that anti-trust will protect us. I must admit, I was looking for a potential alternative broadband possibility and not with openmoko as much in mind. You'd think this would be a real win for openmoko . . . ha ha ha, whoah, let me catch my breath . . . let's wait and see the specific language of the order and then see what people think. On 8/1/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am disappointed. I wanted the FCC to support open networks and open services as well. I really hope Google wins this thing...for the sake of projects like ours. In today's society, we are at the mercy of Verizon, ATT, Sprint, etc. in terms what we are required to pay for mobile phone and internet access. I am not a fan of regulation myself (the reason I support open source products) but by providing those 4 open requirements, I think it would really help to cut down on some of these monopolies. Honestly, I feel it's ridiculous that this utility is not better managed. So many great innovations would come from having an open mobile network (that does not have a primary objective of making money). -Kyle On 8/1/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most important meeting probably globally regarding the future of wireless communications happened yesterday. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/700-mhz-spectrum-auction.html Any thoughts in the OpenMoko community? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Mischa Beitz http://mischa.beitz.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Helping out with OpenMoko
All, I've been lurking on this list for a while now and at this stage am totally sold on the Neo and OpenMoko in general, I'm going to wait for the GTA02 at least as I can't really justify the big spend on the GTA01 hardware followed by another for the GTA02. In the mean-time I'd really like to help to get OpenMoko out the door (for entirely selfish reasons as it'll help get the GTA02 into my grubby mitts sooner :) ). Anyway, I'm a coder and I have an hour or two of spare cycles almost every day. Where should I go to find out what needs to be done, how to submit patches etc.? Apologies if this is posted to the wrong list! -Gordon ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
Allow me to clarify, Most of them allow unlocked phones direct from the manufacturer to be used on their network. It's actually your Sprint phone refusing to operation on Verizon's network. look up unlocking phones you call the old company, not the new company (assuming they are willing to do it). This is how things tend to go on the GSM side of things anyway On 8/1/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Nobody really restricts devices anyway they just use retail power to push their phones. So point 3 because mostly irrelevant either way. Not sure what you mean by this. When verizon won't allow you to use a sprint phone on their network, isn't that considered a restriction? Or not being able to activate an old phone that they don't want to support anymore? What about being locked out of features on your own phone? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data backup service
On 8/1/07, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out funambol, http://www.funambol.com/opensource/ . There's a single file installer and you can be up and running pretty quickly. Bear in mind that the push email clients for non nokia devices appear to be available only if you buy the commercial version Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://www.funambol.com/partners/ Obviously you're head's in the right place... the project is already working with funambol -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
Yes I am disappointed as well. I hope everyone will voice their disappointment to the FCC. I just wrote letters to my sen/rep and the FCC (it felt great lol). I wonder how much the general public is interested in such an important issue because some of the people i've talked to just don't get it. I have friends who don't even understand open-source, they told me why if a computer can run the code you must be able to dissemble and decompile it (hes a type of person who thinks all mathematical/logical operations are reversible too). I told him try to look at a gcc -O3 binary with stripped symbols. But when I tried to explain why you can go back he didn't want to hear it. Anyway I wish there was a way I could tell people they are wrong without alienating them Harrison Metzger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
Harrison Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope everyone will voice their disappointment to the FCC. I just wrote letters to my sen/rep and the FCC (it felt great lol). ... I wonder if any pressure can be put on the FCC to reserve some of the public airwaves for, you know, the public. The fact that the free WIFI spectrum is only large enough to hold 3 non-overlapping channels is disgusting. Here in this part of Fremont, California those channels are so overused it is hard to keep a connection for very long due to everyone stepping on each other's signals. Why can't the public have free access to a large percentage of the spectrum. It does belong to us right??? I would like to see the public get access to some prime frequencies that aren't attenuated by 10db for every tree that the signal goes through. The old TV 700Mhz spectrum would be ideal in this regard. Of course, this is a pipe dream. The FCC will sell our airwaves to the same folks they always sell our airwaves to -- some oligopoly that will make sure the public only gets to use them at 25 cents / minute if at all. -wolfgang ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
You make such a good point. Why does a company get to own our airwaves? It doesn't make much sense. Who says it's the government's right to auction off our airwaves? Because the companies know how to utilize them better? Oh yeah, Verizon is great at it... There is no reason we should have to pay a company to use a cell phone. Possibly for extraneous services such as faster connections, etc. I'm just fed up with it. I understand paying rent for using their towers, but that's not what's going on here-we are paying to use the frequencies as well. (Can you tell my Neo arrived today? heh.) -Kyle On 8/1/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harrison Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope everyone will voice their disappointment to the FCC. I just wrote letters to my sen/rep and the FCC (it felt great lol). ... I wonder if any pressure can be put on the FCC to reserve some of the public airwaves for, you know, the public. The fact that the free WIFI spectrum is only large enough to hold 3 non-overlapping channels is disgusting. Here in this part of Fremont, California those channels are so overused it is hard to keep a connection for very long due to everyone stepping on each other's signals. Why can't the public have free access to a large percentage of the spectrum. It does belong to us right??? I would like to see the public get access to some prime frequencies that aren't attenuated by 10db for every tree that the signal goes through. The old TV 700Mhz spectrum would be ideal in this regard. Of course, this is a pipe dream. The FCC will sell our airwaves to the same folks they always sell our airwaves to -- some oligopoly that will make sure the public only gets to use them at 25 cents / minute if at all. -wolfgang ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
On 8/2/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. If all the rules were passed the frequencies would have less value. Radio towers are expensive and you cannot charge people for them. Consumer electronics are cheap(to make) and people will pay for them. If a company isn't guaranteed profits from CE, then they have less real incentive to put up towers. (they still have service charges). That's already been raised and pretty much torpedoed by Google's offer to meet the reserve under those conditions. Even setting that aside, why would they have less value? The openness conditions suggested don't preclude charging for service; they merely ensured that the environment would be competitive, with many different parties able to resell the bandwidth or resulting network on that frequency band. 4. Nobody really restricts devices anyway they just use retail power to push their phones. So point 3 because mostly irrelevant either way. See above: With open, competitive networks on the same frequency, and anyone able to buy and resell chunks of it, and devices that are _required_ to be open, this would be a lot less of an issue. If your provider of choice doesn't offer your favorite device, simply buy one from another provider, or a third-party. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
On 1 Aug 2007, at 22:16, Kyle Bassett wrote: You make such a good point. Why does a company get to own our airwaves? It doesn't make much sense. Who says it's the government's right to auction off our airwaves? Because the companies know how to utilize them better? Oh yeah, Verizon is great at it... There is no reason we should have to pay a company to use a cell phone. There's a hell of a lot of technology involved that's why. It's not like CB or HAM radio, there's a massive transmitter in most town and cities, there's repeater stations. It's all electronics that costs money to run, electricity, repairs etc. I don't pay rental costs, I just pay for calls and texts. It costs me more but then I don't use it much as I'm near a computer or landline a lot of the time. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Harrison Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope everyone will voice their disappointment to the FCC. I just wrote letters to my sen/rep and the FCC (it felt great lol). ... I wonder if any pressure can be put on the FCC to reserve some of the public airwaves for, you know, the public. The fact that the free WIFI spectrum is only large enough to hold 3 non-overlapping channels is disgusting. Here in this part of Fremont, California those channels are so overused it is hard to keep a connection for very long due to everyone stepping on each other's signals. Why can't the public have free access to a large percentage of the spectrum. It does belong to us right??? I would like to see the public get access to some prime frequencies that aren't attenuated by 10db for every tree that the signal goes through. The old TV 700Mhz spectrum would be ideal in this regard. Umm. The 700MHz spectrum would about cope with one 802.11g equivalent data-rate channel. And exactly what do you think would happen if this was free access, and the signals go for longer distances? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
On 2 Aug 2007, at 01:48, Ian Stirling wrote: And research and network planning. The cellphone is about a quarter of an invention. Three quarters or more of it are in the tower. I'd say we're also all been taken for a ride due to the costs of the licences. In the UK the operators paid many billions for licences, this is why SMS messages (which could be free) are still 12-10p each even though it's 160 characters a piece. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MacOS X users get together!
Basically we have to fix things in the following order: 1. make dfu-util work so that we can flash the rootfs from a Mac 1b. write a GUI tool that presents the list of available flash files and allows to download, cache and (re)flash them 2. update AJZaurusUSB (http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php? page=AJZaurusUSB) so that the OpenMoko is recognized (and no Apple CDC Ethernet driver intervenes) This is basically done (but not tested because step 1 is missing). A short description is here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ MacOS_X#USB or here http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php? showtopic=24467hl= 3. find out how to configure ssh, SMB, Bluetooth etc. for more sophisticated communication 4. find a better way to run OpenEmbedded natively on a Mac. I already had started the MacOE project (http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php? page=MacOE) but did not yet succeed. Am 31.07.2007 um 16:35 schrieb Giles Jones: On 31 Jul 2007, at 20:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often use Macs since it's a nice and functional gadget. And I guess many of them would buy Neo1973 since it would be nice and functional ;) I think that after end-user release there should be some solutions for connecting your Mac and Neo. Great! I will contribute as soon as I have my Neo... Same here. I use a Mac pro for audio work so I can't use Linux as it doesn't have the same quality software. I currently have the dev environment running in Linux on Parallels desktop. I have Bluetooth in the PC and I think this is how I'd connect the two as I don't like cables. Would be nice to have a sort of easy bluetooth activation method. Maybe have a sync option that enables bluetooth then disables is after the sync. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
