Re: compile error

2007-08-27 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, On 8/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does someone has the same problem with the -lz option in the qtopia- core section? On Debian Etch I had to install zliblg and zliblg-dev, for the above. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

Re: Earliest possible release date for GTA02 - is it past October?

2007-08-27 Thread Luca Dionisi
On 8/26/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven ** wrote: On 8/25/07, *Ian Stirling* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have some information on this. Is it still plausible that if everything falls right, GTA02 can be produced

Re: Release schedule GTA-2

2007-08-27 Thread Luca Dionisi
On 8/19/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:39:14PM +0200, Jurian Sluiman wrote: I was wondering when the GTA-2 Neo comes out. Before GTA-1 everyone said it would be October, but after a while it became September. Some wiki pages are still saying September,

Re: Earliest possible release date for GTA02 - is it past October?

2007-08-27 Thread Mario Wewer
Does this http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-August/009491.html mean, that the first neos of GTA02-release are possibly again a developers-release? And will be shipped/declared as a developers-version? Then we won't have to pay an import fee - right? - Original Message

Re: Release schedule GTA-2

2007-08-27 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while they don't, here's what I understood from Sean's

Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)

2007-08-27 Thread Richard Bennett
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:06:53 +0200, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's actually a crashing spamassassin, which then causes the DATA section of an incoming SMTP transfer to time out, which again causes some sending email servers, such as gmail, who have a short timeout, to transfer the

Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)

2007-08-27 Thread Harald Welte
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:56:57AM +0200, Richard Bennett wrote: Hi Harald, Could you please check whether spamassassin has crashed again? it locked up again :( The duplicate messages seem to have started once more. nobody inside openmoko will ever notice that, since we all use cyrus imapd,

Re: Earliest possible release date for GTA02 - is it past October?

2007-08-27 Thread Luca Dionisi
In the wiki there are pages that seem to equate GTA01 = phase 1 GTA02 = phase 2 What is GTA02 phase-1 ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)

2007-08-27 Thread Richard Bennett
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:25:12 +0200, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:56:57AM +0200, Richard Bennett wrote: Hi Harald, Could you please check whether spamassassin has crashed again? it locked up again :( The duplicate messages seem to have started once

Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)

2007-08-27 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 27, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Richard Bennett wrote: A crude solution to make spamassassin restart if it crashes could be to start it with a script, wrap the start command in a loop that can never finish. When spamassassin dies, the command will re-run... Then you can find the reason it

Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).

2007-08-27 Thread ---
Just an information about: That will be a very different layout than someone who does short hand or abbreviated messaging. the layouts are not so different as you think... Using the same language on conversations if you produce a layout optimized to that language it will cover the full word and

Re: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread Jason Elwell
On Sunday 26 August 2007 19:18:16 wim delvaux wrote: I powered down my device a couple of days ago. I want to power it back on ... HOW 1. press power button for several seconds ? NOPE 2. pull out battery and do step 1 ? NOPE 3. press aux + power ? NOPE 4. Try all of the above while

Re: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
2007/8/27, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unlike many of the consumer devices you may be familiar with, the Neo1973 will NOT run from solely the USB cable if the battery has been drained. To make things more frustrating, the device will only only charge in slow-mode when the device is in

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Attila Csipa
On Sunday 26 August 2007 16:32, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: Largely because you don't get any useable open source licensed GPL maps. The GPL has no real meaning in map terms since it does not have the source/binary relation an application has - unless of course you mean GPL = download for free,

Re: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread Giles Jones
On 27 Aug 2007, at 14:15, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: I wonder that this could be serioul hickup after going public... I can already see all those frustrated users who left their phones for night and in the morning they cannot make important phone call. And they have to wait for 4 hours just

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Giles Jones
On 27 Aug 2007, at 13:56, Attila Csipa wrote: e! Actually, considering the postage and customs costs of OpenMoko, it is roughly the same for my location which not Antarctica but practically the center of Europe :( I'm in Europe and the greenphone is about twice the cost. You have to

Re: Release schedule GTA-2

2007-08-27 Thread Nkoli
On 8/27/07, Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to answer, but while

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 27 August 2007 14:56:14 Attila Csipa wrote: How about Trolltech ports Qtopia GPL to the Neo *themselves*? That would prove that it's easy enough (heck you could count the hours of work included and write up some whitepaper touting how portable it is) and I don't really see the

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 27 August 2007 15:38, Giles Jones wrote: I'm in Europe and the greenphone is about twice the cost. You have to add in the price of the SDK and licences too. It's a really unimpressive deal. Again, if you're a business and developing commercial software, the cost of a SDK means

PocketCM Virtual Keyboard - We need it, or something like that... :)

2007-08-27 Thread Bernardo Pellegrini
Hi all, well, I don't know if someone has already pointed it out, but I found this video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWEeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Epocketcm%2Ecom%2Fkeyboard%2Ephp It's a freeware software for windows mobile (puah!), that emulate the iphone virtual keyboard.

Re: Release schedule GTA-2

2007-08-27 Thread Jeremy G
My hope is that there is a developers release in October, but that it will be as widely available as GTA01 phase 2. On 8/27/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/27/07, Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Giles Jones
On 27 Aug 2007, at 16:05, Attila Csipa wrote: Again, if you're a business and developing commercial software, the cost of a SDK means nothing to you - quite the contrary of the case if you are a tinkerer-open phone enthusiast. If you look closely at the licenses, you'll see that you

RE: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread John Seghers
Giles Jones wrote: Indeed, most people don't care about the technical reasons for it. It's to be expected that the power management when the device is switched on may be weak, but why does the battery drain so fast when it's switched off? My understanding is that it's a bug and/or the power

Re: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Monday 27 August 2007 15:15:11 Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: I wonder that this could be serioul hickup after going public... I can already see all those frustrated users who left their phones for night and in the morning they cannot make important phone call. And they have to wait for 4

Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).

2007-08-27 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Lars Hallberg wrote: You mean 8 drag directions + just press+relese... 9 functions per key. Might work. Guess testing on the device is how to find out. But 6x5 keyboard with 8 drag directions give: 6 9 9 9 9 6 6 9 9 9 9 6 4 6 6 6 6 4 A total of 128 'keys'... Good *if* it works :-) As someone

Re: PocketCM Virtual Keyboard - We need it, or something like that... :)

2007-08-27 Thread Jimmy McMillan
That does look rather nice. If i hadn't just busted my xv6700 I would have tried it out. Bernardo Pellegrini wrote: Hi all, well, I don't know if someone has already pointed it out, but I found this video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWEeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 27 August 2007 17:24, Giles Jones wrote: It means a heck of a lot if you can't earn back the outlay. Mobile If you _can_ earn it back directly through selling proprietary software for it, OpenMoko is a mockery of the GPL. In that case you are not creating a truly free platform, but a

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-27 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 27 August 2007 15:32, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: No it's more like MS telling Intel to port Windows to the new processor for them. You want to sell something on a platform? Well if nobody wants to port it there, you should do it yourself or don't do it, but then you don't get to bug

Re: Release schedule GTA-2

2007-08-27 Thread Marco Barreno
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 08:54:34AM +, thus spake Lalo Martins: Also spracht Luca Dionisi (Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:04:39 +0200): On 8/19/07, Harald Welte depends on what you think. GTA02 phase-1 will probably be october. What is GTA02 phase-1 ? Better wait for someone from OpenMoko to

AW: Re: compile error

2007-08-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi sk, you are absolut right: you must have both! thks CY Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 27.08.2007 09:26 An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: compile error Hi, On 8/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does someone has the same problem

Re: VMWare-Image (again)

2007-08-27 Thread George Barta
New .rar image is now available at http://www.gcbdev.net/openmoko/OpenMoko_VMWare_2007-AUG-26.rar On 8/26/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I think it could be the right time to provide updated VMWare image with OM 2007.2 I have previuos one and I'm still trying to update