Robin Paulson wrote:
On 19/09/2007, OJW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:12, Ian Stirling wrote:
It must have wi-max, and be able to fly up to several kilometers, to
take pictures for use with the OM mapping system.
Need to integrate with these guys...
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 20:40 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you really say either gnome or is wasted effort and should be
discontinued? Or vim/gnome,linux/bsd,gecko/webkit/mysql/postgres...
Yes, it's my personal belief that these projects all represent wasted effort
and that if they
Thomas Wood wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 20:40 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you really say either gnome or is wasted effort and should be
discontinued? Or vim/gnome,linux/bsd,gecko/webkit/mysql/postgres...
Yes, it's my personal belief that these projects all represent wasted
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 18:00:51 Giles Jones wrote:
Typically the argument for QT is ease of programming, there's a good IDE
called KDevelop. GTK's argument typically is that it's GPL and faster.
Except Qt nowadays actually is GPL (GTK+ being only LGPL), to be more
precise :)
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 10:28:55 Jonathan Spooner wrote:
I didn't realise Qtopia was */proprietary/*
It's no longer, it's fully GPL now.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=ensa=Xoi=spellresnum=0ct=resultcd=1
comments on preferring QT for the quality docs and IDE. I'd rather
plug
ian douglas wrote:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
The biggest challenge would be a mapping from gps coordinates to
regions/postcodes or such.
If you have this information, you could do all sorts of crazy stuff.
But i doubt these data would be very easy to get.
I've seen it at another contract I
Ok, as i already said some times, i think the best would be to have a single
app that would allow a simple templating. It could go from some in-deep
template=app-system, where the numbers are sned through dbus, to a simple
webkit-based(if we already have it, why dont use it?)
Hi
Tomorrow will Micahel Lauer from the OpenMoko Team at the OpenExpo in
Zürich (Switzerland) speak about the project. You need a Ticket (it's
free). It's at 11 am.
http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2007-zuerich/
Hope to see some of you there
Cheers
Esra
My thoughts that competition has it's advantages and both of the
technologies will find their fans. But Trolltech and Openmoko should
cooperate with each other first of all in terms of integration of PIM
data. Do you really need dual-booting (or other possibility to start
either Qtopia or
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 20:12:04 Ian Stirling wrote:
I'd want several megapixels, ability to take at least several second
pictures, for use around dusk.
Optical zoom would be a big plus.
LCD size not hugely important.
Wifi and bluetooth would be a big plus.
USB-host too, to enable
Calls for more collaboration are quite common, but I can't help but feel
that people assume it is easier than it actually is. There is the GMAE
effort which tries do achieve exactly what is mentioned here, which is
further codesharing between all these efforts.
Whats holding up collaboration is
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 20:40 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you really say either gnome or is wasted effort and should be
discontinued? Or vim/gnome,linux/bsd,gecko/webkit/mysql/postgres...
Yes, it's my personal belief that these projects all represent wasted effort
and that if they
If you can, please film it and put it up on google video or via a torrent!
The community craves video talks!
/Oliver
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On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 14:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
This is something someone else touched on. If you're writing an
application, abstract all the complicated stuff away from the UI code,
then you can make whatever kind of UI you want. NetworkManager I think
is a perfect example
On Wed, September 19, 2007 12:00 pm, Ian Stirling wrote:
ian douglas wrote:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
The biggest challenge would be a mapping from gps coordinates to
regions/postcodes or such.
If you have this information, you could do all sorts of crazy stuff.
But i doubt these data would be
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 20:12:04 Ian Stirling wrote:
I'd want several megapixels, ability to take at least several second
pictures, for use around dusk.
Optical zoom would be a big plus.
LCD size not hugely important.
Wifi and bluetooth would be a big plus.
USB-host
David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
But is the data freely available, or is it constrained by copyright or the
like.
In the UK, postcode (zipcode) data is restricted by copyright, and the
post office makes money selling licenses to users. Even if we could get
the data, we could not
Just wondering if there is a reason for the [-SPAM-] in the subject line?
Andy
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:11:30 GMT, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
But is the data freely available, or is it constrained by copyright or
the
like.
In the UK,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
This is something someone else touched on. If you're writing an application,
abstract all the complicated stuff away from the UI code, then you can make
whatever kind of UI you want. NetworkManager I think is a perfect example of this.
It would be good to have a
Hi! I posted on my site: http://www.openmoko.org.pl some thoughs and
about 30 screen shots of what I think are the most interesting Qtopia
features.
I'd recommend anyone who has a phone to give Qtopia a try because it
is very mature and nicely made piece of software. Anyone else may
visit
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:58:00 Lorn Potter wrote:
Not X11 like all other systems. This has better performance and is in my
eyes the perfect solution for embedded devices.
There is no great performance difference between x11 and fb.
As long as X11 renders to FB,
As long as X11 renders to FB, that's true. However, with the GPU in GTA02 that
may not be true at all as in fact, Mickey mentioned on IRC yesterday that fb
operations may well be *slower* on GTA02 than on GTA01.
I don't know enough about the differences between Qt and Qtopia (aside of the
fact
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Firstly, Sato is not a mobile phone framework in any sense at all. It
does not include any applications or services that would make a mobile
phone useful. Sato is simply a visual style.
Strange, the description on
Firstly, Sato is not a mobile phone framework in any sense at all. It
does not include any applications or services that would make a mobile
phone useful. Sato is simply a visual style.
Strange, the description on http://www.pokylinux.org/ says:
Sato is our experimental
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've spent a lot of time trying to understand how Linux graphics
stacks work. ... I will now try and explain how I understand it
works and please, PLEASE correct me where I'm wrong! :-)
That is the most concise, clear and understandable explanation I have
ever seen
X provides an OpenGL API. So if you want to do fancy stuff like
Compiz, you do it with OpenGL.
X does not however provide an OpenGL ES API, neither does GDK. Qtopia on the
other hand does allow OpenGL ES integration. In fact Beryl/Compiz-type effects
and composition is already avaliable on
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:57 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] I mentioned earlier that cairo uses Xrender to copy compose
rasterized graphics onto the screen. Some graphics hardware can
accelerate some of the XRender operations, however, in X.org it seems
the current driver model makes
this company are launching a service for cheap roaming deals in
various countries around the world. interestingly they are also
offering voip using available wi-fi connections, similar to the
t-mobile hotspot, for 1.2 use cent a minutes. no word on seamless
hand-off between the two though
Thomas Wood wrote:
All in all, the great thing about OpenMoko and the Neo1973 is that
you're free to choose whatever path you wish to take. If you want to use
Qtopia on your Neo1973 then you are more than welcome to do so! There
are many many different Linux distributions and probably almost as
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
X does not however provide an OpenGL ES API, neither does GDK. Qtopia on
the other hand does allow OpenGL ES integration.
...
I suspect this is a moot point anyway as I doubt we'll ever see an OpenGL ES
library/driver for the SMedia. I
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (with
the wrong kind of word-wrap, unfortunately):
X is client server architecture which uses sockets. The server draws things
on behalf of the clients. Rather than clients having to understand the X
protocol, Xlib was developed to
I want to have Neo1973 in Russia. AFAIK there is a problem about
certification in Rostest. I can discover certification procedure and
prices from Rostest. I wrote following email at Rostest (in Russian):
Greetings
I have 3 questions about cellular phones certification:
Corean company FIC
I would be so disappointed if the OpenMoko devs gave up. Don't get me
wrong, I'm excited about Qtopia on the Neo, but I'm more interested in
having options. I'm the type of user who loves to play with distros
on my computers; being able to swap mobile OSes from OpenMoko to
Qtopia to Sun's
And there are already plans for someone to do the necessary XRender
coding to support GTA02.
That's fantastic news! Why on earth did Harold say that the fact that an
accelerated kdrive was being written couldn't be disclosed? What's the problem
in telling the community? Not that it matters
Jeremy G wrote:
I would be so disappointed if the OpenMoko devs gave up.
Huh? I hadn't heard any indication anyone was thinking of doing so...
Don't get me
wrong, I'm excited about Qtopia on the Neo, but I'm more interested in
having options. I'm the type of user who loves to play with
Two complete distributions you can install and run on the same hardware?
Both free? (not counting Sun since I can't get my paws on that one...)
That's the real revolution here, and I would say this proves Sean's
point of doing this in the first place...
Can't agree more, the whole idea of a
My hope is that this marks the end of closed phones.
Not a chance. The providers want custom firmware that
leads you to their pay per use service, pay per item content,
the recurring charge subscriptions, and the associated data
charges.
The relationship between providers and phone
Jeremy G pisze:
I would be so disappointed if the OpenMoko devs gave up. Don't get me
That would be horrible :-/
I think Qtopia is finally and fully open to gain some new developers
from our community. Because of it maturity I suppose some of Openmoko
developers would be interested in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze:
Corean company FIC releases Neo 1973 smartphone:
Sorry - FIC is from Taiwan.
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