Re: Homebrew Open Phone
Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland: Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers, Are they available for the Neo? Really open hardware would be if you get all the files to produce your own silicon :-) not source code, and this is not open hardware. Driver code is still in the software realm. For compulab's PXA270 boards, this is their listed OS support: http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/html/x270-em-os-support.htm Since they list linux support presumably there is source but I would check to make sure before buying. Here: http://www.compulab.co.il/x270cm/download/ They apparently use Angstrom and note that WiFi is currently not yet supported. For harware details, products like this will usually include enough documentation of the hardware to do any kind of interfacing you need, but it's not open hardware unless they provide the full schematics and gerber files to produce pcb boards. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homebrew Open Phone - resent (link corrected)
Sorry, I did copy the wrong link. Here is the correct one for the LCD-PDA module. http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/ Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland: Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers, Are they available for the Neo? Really open hardware would be if you get all the files to produce your own silicon :-) not source code, and this is not open hardware. Driver code is still in the software realm. For compulab's PXA270 boards, this is their listed OS support: http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/html/x270-em-os-support.htm Since they list linux support presumably there is source but I would check to make sure before buying. Here: http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/ They apparently use Angstrom and note that WiFi is currently not yet supported. For harware details, products like this will usually include enough documentation of the hardware to do any kind of interfacing you need, but it's not open hardware unless they provide the full schematics and gerber files to produce pcb boards. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sv: New input method demo!
Mikkel Meyer Andersen skrev: Hi, I've also tried to develop a keyboard for finger-use. I started with developing a dictionary library, and have only made a very simple GUI to use it. I haven't seen you keyboard yet, but I'm really looking forward to. In addition to this, I hope to be able to incorporate the dictionary I've made. I'm been thinking about this for a while... And Yes thanks... I want to play with it. While the app often have better knowledge, it make sens to put the logic in one place. To give all apps completion, and to avoid duplication. An api to let apps control what they need would probably not be too complicated ether. So, Yes... Where can I find the code and data? I would also want to find a list of the most used English words... To add directly in the keyboard layout. It is better for short words then completion, and the most used words is often short. As positions in the keyboard layout have to be memorized to work fast it will work for far less words. So completion is a nice complement. /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homebrew Open Phone
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers, Are they available for the Neo? No, Neo is not open hardware either. Even if it was it would not be easy to produce. I have a reflow oven and could do it, but I think it would end up costing just as much as buying one. Really open hardware would be if you get all the files to produce your own silicon :-) Yeah, and the interesting thing about ARM is that is does start that way. ARM is a fabless company, they only sell intellectual property. Licensees actually buy the source code to the hardware. http://www.arm.com/products/physicalip/product_overview.html If you want to make your own silicon ...grab this source hehe http://www.opencores.org/projects.cgi/web/core_arm/overview Doug Sutherland Proficio Research http://www.proficio.ca/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New input method demo!
Hi, I've just recently started a project: https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-input/ Please feel free to join it! I haven't really started at using the SVN there yet, so the source I've got so far can be downloaded from www.scienco.org/openmoko-input.tar.gz - I'll put it in the project SVN ASAP. I'm aware that the separation of the library and the inputting itself isn't fulfilled at this time, but we are clearly suppose to do that ASAP, too. As mentioned earlier, I'm really not a great C-programmer; I've mainly done C# earlier, so please feel free to comment :-). Regards, Mikkel - Original Besked fra: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Til: community@lists.openmoko.org community@lists.openmoko.org Emne: Re: Sv: New input method demo! Dato: 29/10/07 10:49 Mikkel Meyer Andersen skrev: Hi, I've also tried to develop a keyboard for finger-use. I started with developing a dictionary library, and have only made a very simple GUI to use it. I haven't seen you keyboard yet, but I'm really looking forward to. In addition to this, I hope to be able to incorporate the dictionary I've made. I'm been thinking about this for a while... And Yes thanks... I want to play with it. While the app often have better knowledge, it make sens to put the logic in one place. To give all apps completion, and to avoid duplication. An api to let apps control what they need would probably not be too complicated ether. So, Yes... Where can I find the code and data? I would also want to find a list of the most used English words... To add directly in the keyboard layout. It is better for short words then completion, and the most used words is often short. As positions in the keyboard layout have to be memorized to work fast it will work for far less words. So completion is a nice complement. /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
optimizing a keyboard layout
Hi all, I could see that there is many people interested in develop a new input method, like me. I do not have an implementation of my idea right now , but I created a program (using genetic techniques) that can help on the optimization of the layout. In theory It could optimize any kind of fixed layout, you just need to configure some things... So for those who are developing new layouts and want to try my solution mail me! Guy [] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sv: New input method demo!
Tjenare Lars! I think a good place to find such information is the Dasher project. ( http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ ) They use a probabalistic model to make another alternative input device, using the same sort of statistics that you need. The project is open source, so even though the stats may not be available on the site (even though they probably are) you should just need to ask for them. hälsningar, Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
