Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Nicolas Linkert
Hi, I sent this to FIC: before I do that [send my device back to FIC and exchange it], I'll need to find out the following: Question: I have been following the improving power management conversation on the IRC logs and on

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Maciej Kaniewski
Hi, from openmoko.com shop page : WARNING: Developers only! Please note that the OpenMoko products are not meant for the end user and explicitly marked as Developer preview at this time. Read this wiki articlehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_previewto find more technical details of what

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hi, Powermanagement isn't only suspend2ram! There are also other things! What are the hardware problems in GTA01, preventing it from using it as a phone? * Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-08 10:47]: Hi, I sent this to FIC:

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 10/01/2008, Maciej Kaniewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you CAN NOT expect yet reliable means of making phone calls, esp. not from the UI reliable means of sending/receiving SMS, esp. not from the UI integrated GPRS data access bluetooth integration (basic bluez driver works)

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Ben Wilson
I think your jumping the gun quite a bit All we know at the moment is that there *is* a hardware bug. We dont know; A) If the hardware bug is bypassable in software B) If the hardware is fixable by us. I did read somewhere that it was an 'incorrect resistor' problem. If this is true and the

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS (logging track points). GSM talk time ought to even be longer than that, but this is without being

Re: WiFi chip squeezes 802.11n into MicroSD cards

2008-01-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 10.01.2008 um 21:29 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Yeah, cool. Can you toss this up on the wiki in the appropriate section? If someone can help me to tell what the appropriate section is... Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Something interesting - could be good to see in GTA03:

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Shawn, * Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-08 14:19]: Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS (logging track points). GSM talk

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 10, 2008 2:40 PM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with actual battery you need to minimize the power consumption to 10mA for 5h lifetime! It's supposed to be a 1200mAH battery, so 1200/5 is 240mA, to get a 5 hour lifetime, right? When i was GPS logging for OSM (Navit with map

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Gilbert Hartmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Shiloh wrote: Neo FreeRunner press release and the CPU speed -- The Neo FreeRunner press release that went out last week indicated a 500MHz CPU which, as many of you pointed out, is in conflict

Re: root

2008-01-10 Thread Brandon Kruse
Great, when can I expect your patch? Btw, same conceptually, I like to call that particular rambling an idea Brandon On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thursday 10 January 2008 skrev Brandon Kruse: Kde and

Re: Community update, January 2, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I would assume the difference to be fiscal vs calendar year. My workplace uses Oct 1st to the start of their fiscal year, with project funding and reseting of vacation time being based around this. For other things we refer to particular quarters of the calendar year. I think expressing

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Ian, ian douglas wrote: Although it would be nice to take advantage of this faster processor, 3 problems make this impractical Michael, If I'm reading your message correctly, the GTA02 will indeed have a 500MHz processor, but will not be running at 500MHz because of the three

Re: root

2008-01-10 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Friday 11 January 2008 skrev Brandon Kruse: Great, when can I expect your patch? Well, i can tell you that much that any patch from my hand would be shunned like a demon - while i do code, i have only done so using PHP, C# and C... In that order of preference (yes, yes, i know, PHP is made

Neo security: running everything as root, and lacking a root password (was: Re: root)

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Brandon, (I encourage everyone to use meaningful subject lines) I suspect the real reason was that it was the easiest and quickest thing to do at the time, and allowed the developers to focus on more pressing issues, like getting the rest of the system working. I'm sure this will change

Re: root

2008-01-10 Thread Nick Guenther
On Jan 10, 2008 2:58 PM, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are user applications and GUI run as root? If yes, is it safe? What is the root password in OpenMoko, by the way? This has been noted, but it's not a top priority to fix it:

Re: Neo security: running everything as root, and lacking a root password (was: Re: root)

2008-01-10 Thread Christopher White
Regarding security and mobile phones.. I recently read an interesting interview with Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer of F-Secure in IIEE Security and Privacy (Nov/Dec 07). He touched on the topic of security and mobile phones, even mentioned that he has received four worms on his mobile

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Lon Lentz
Michael, Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this? On Jan 10, 2008 4:20 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, A brief status report from OpenMoko: Consumer Electronics Show, Las Vegas We've just

Re: Openmoko wallpaper

2008-01-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
no the picture is in png format 'n high res.and 1639 KB, should be a JPG with ok quality then the size will be much more less then maybe we can put it on the wiki On Jan 11, 2008 1:59 AM, clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, THe reduced download time pic is very nice, but I believe if put on the