FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)

2008-01-14 Thread Gilles Casse
XML-based widgets: http://mobile.yahoo.com/go Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-14 Thread Nils Faerber
Michael Shiloh schrieb: Nicolas Linkert wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: snip So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current eater. I was under

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-14 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Nils, i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html * Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-08 10:23]: From: Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for OpenMoko community

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-14 Thread Nils Faerber
Tim Niemeyer schrieb: Hallo Nils, Hi! i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html Good catch, thanks! And there was some explanation in that or close thread as well. Puh, so it was not

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-14 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Nils, * Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-08 11:36]: i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about... found something else: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html Good catch, thanks! And there was some explanation in that or close

Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case

2008-01-14 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, here can you find nice photos from a complete black device. http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ = the DSC* files. The photos has been shot by mickeyl :) Greets Patrick Beck Am Sonntag, den 13.01.2008, 15:57 -0800 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Zeth Green wrote: Warning: Totally frivolous

CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Community, Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to the other formats.

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import these natively or with a plugin

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. fantastic, no i don't recall seeing this confirmed. thanks michael I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files.

Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case

2008-01-14 Thread andy selby
here can you find nice photos from a complete black device. http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ = the DSC* files. The photos has been shot by mickeyl :) The site is down at the moment but I did find this at people.openomoko.org http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/misc/MOV02905.MPG posted today

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Tim Niemeyer wrote: On another Thread was this: --- And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix. Can anybody from Openmoko

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread andy selby
What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? Blender seems to import .dxf files though I've never tried any thing other than native files. Get it at www.blender3d.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
yes, dxf is spot on Thanks for the confirmation. great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this

Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case

2008-01-14 Thread Patrick Beck
Yes, LTG is down, but i think it will running again in a few hours. The photos there are well worth seeing ;) The video you are found is about the special case from mickey. He have build it out from a black and white case. Greets Patrick Beck Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 19:26 + schrieb

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. concrete! now there's an idea. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Steampunk is one of

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere near as thin as plastic can

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Tim
Ben Burdette schrieb: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15/01/2008, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Ben Burdette
great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Michael Shiloh writes: Now what would a steampunk phone look like? I really, really like what might be a called a restrained steampunk style. Something like the existing black/silver case, with a wood veneer in place of black and brass-bound for the silver.

Re: FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)

2008-01-14 Thread Nick Guenther
On Jan 14, 2008 3:32 AM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML-based widgets: http://mobile.yahoo.com/go I think... I don't understand. How are these XML based? Do you need a special app to run them or is XML based the new word for DHTML/AJAX (so, need a full webbrowser)? -Nick

No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia

2008-01-14 Thread 左 国坤
Hi, all I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1. I need your help to clear some problems. 1, Incoming call ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa. 2, Out Call Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone, No connection to the

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation.

Re: No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia

2008-01-14 Thread Lorn Potter
左 国坤 wrote: Hi, all I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1. I need your help to clear some problems. 1, Incoming call ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa. 2, Out Call Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone,

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Daniel Barkalow wrote: Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? http://www.candyfab.org/ Other phones make their owners angry.

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Arvidson
I also suggest Alibre Express, although it is for Windows and it's not FOSS, but I was involved in much of the writing of it, so I enjoy seeing it being used. Blender would work great for this application, although it's not a parametric solid modeler. I'll have to give it a spin. --Mark Arvidson

RE: No Voice when using Voip in Qtopia

2008-01-14 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
Hey Lorn, if you have time could you comment on what else is new or fixed since your last image was posted? Thanks a bunch, Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorn Potter Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: FYI: Yahoo Go 3.0 (beta)

2008-01-14 Thread Gilles Casse
Nick Guenther wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 3:32 AM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML-based widgets: http://mobile.yahoo.com/go I think... I don't understand. How are these XML based? Do you need a special app to run them or is XML based the new word for DHTML/AJAX (so, need a full

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
Shawn Rutledge wrote: What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work? I have to agree with the people that say Blender is a high quality program. For a simple 3D editor I would suggest something like Art of Illusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Illusion). In my opinion

Re: what's not functional?

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Arvidson
Hi Tom, If your usage is for North America, be aware that the Neo as it is offered now does not include support for the 850MHz band, so you will only be able to use the 1900MHz in these parts. The battery life is 3-4 hours, and the phone is best charged turned on and plugged into a Linux

Southern California Linux Expo, Feb 8-10 2008

2008-01-14 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, Just saw that OpenMoko is going to be at the SCALE show this year -- can't wait to drop by and meet some of you guys. Got any good giveaways planned? ;o) Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: what's not functional?

2008-01-14 Thread ian douglas
After the modem firmware upgrade from Michael, I was able to connect and make a phone call with an ATT SIM card that didn't work before. And a TMobile SIM card that didn't work at all before would now at least register on the network and show signal strength, but would not make/receive a phone

Re: Southern California Linux Expo, Feb 8-10 2008

2008-01-14 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
Where did you see that? It wasn't in Current Events-Upcoming events in the Wiki. Too bad I just finished several months in California, won't be going back any time soon (I think) and will miss out on the show in Feb. Anyone know of any other shows coming up in the US that OpenMoko will be