Re: PMU user manual
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: > The link in wiki for PCF50606(GTA01) is broken - seems Philips not only > dicontinued the chip, but also the docs for it. > I found exactly one source: > http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf > > For PCF50633(GTA02) there obviously never was a public datasheet/user manual > (at least i found 2 years old postings asking for it), only a broken/empty > link on manufacturers site. :-( > Please can anybody give a pointer to these docs, or even upload them to the > wiki? > Think it would be a hard job for the community to improve power management, > without detailed specs of the Power Management Unit... > A nice example for open drivers worth nothing without hw-spec (ref: other > thread about proprietary firmware) All I can say is it is marked up "Company Confidential" so I can't put it anywhere without some authorization, otherwise you'd be welcome. I cc'd Wolfgang who is out and about at the moment in case he has some better knowledge about any agreement with NXP. Obviously it is okay to make enums and defines and comments in the sources... maybe if you have a specific question I can help, but I agree that sucks compared to printing out the datasheet. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHx4B8OjLpvpq7dMoRAnzgAJ9HfjSoxHKpiesZ25sAZ3C9qIJFtACgg3z6 H2a5FE0u3tAQkrZErLUTZW0= =SI67 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
PMU user manual
The link in wiki for PCF50606(GTA01) is broken - seems Philips not only dicontinued the chip, but also the docs for it. I found exactly one source: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf For PCF50633(GTA02) there obviously never was a public datasheet/user manual (at least i found 2 years old postings asking for it), only a broken/empty link on manufacturers site. :-( Please can anybody give a pointer to these docs, or even upload them to the wiki? Think it would be a hard job for the community to improve power management, without detailed specs of the Power Management Unit... A nice example for open drivers worth nothing without hw-spec (ref: other thread about proprietary firmware) Thanks jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from SD
Ortwin Regel wrote: The problem might be your u-boot version. Try this one: http://buildhost.automated.it/u-boot-good-for-sd-boot-r13_0_2632_0.bin It's what I've been using successfully. I never could get it to work with other u-boot versions I tried. SD-booting in u-boot was broken for several months but as of late January it is fixed (or at least worked-around; the root cause of the bug has not yet been identified). The link you posted will boot from SD, but it has other bugs that have been fixed in later versions. Regarding the original problem, it is likely related to the 2.6.24 kernel. The GTA01 SD-card driver was broken for a while. My understanding is that it is now functional, but that it is still configured to emit a large amount of debugging information. Things should work fine with a 2.6.22.5 kernel as long as you have the corresponding modules installed on your root filesystem. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About ipkg on Openmoko
I've found that connecting the Neo to my PC built a resolv.conf pointing to my workstation's address (192.168.0.200) which obviously doesn't do DNS lookups. I solved it by writing a new resolv.conf using OpenDNS: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 It'd be trivial to grep the /etc/resolv.conf on a startup task on the Neo to see whether "nameserver 192.168.0.200" is in the resolv.conf file and overwrite it with this copy instead. -id ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
joerg wrote: > - charge from any host (incl simplistic chargers): 100mA (6-12h) > - charge from "intelligent" host: 500mA (1-2h) > - charge from quickcharger with magic R: 1500mA (<1h) Ahh, ok, that makes a lot more sense. I generally charge overnight, so when I'm traveling, the difference between 100mA & 500mA won't be an issue. Thanks to Joerg & Andy for clearing this up. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
re:About ipkg on Openmoko
#!/bin/sh echo "...ip address 192.168.0.200" ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 echo "...ip forward" echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward modprobe iptable_nat iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE maybe work -- my Blog : http://blog.chinaunix.net/u/13385/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: > - charge from any host (incl simplistic chargers): 100mA (6-12h) > - charge from "intelligent" host: 500mA (1-2h) > - charge from quickcharger with magic R: 1500mA (<1h) This is pretty accurate Joerg but on this last one the total current drawn from the adapter is limited to 1A max by the PMU. So we charge at ~700mA or so the rest goes to power the device. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHx1hsOjLpvpq7dMoRAtBDAJ98C7K+DjCCk0XELlPiYXCnJxV28wCfZMS9 pfWKhDlA65rtV1CXddFxRN0= =4mZr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Populated IrDA?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Alan Ide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if it is or is not populated / usable?? I really want to be able to use my > FreeRunner as my universal remote using LIRC. Thank you. IrDA and CIR (consumer IR) are usually not the same thing. If you start looking for the actual components you'll see there are several wavelengths of light in use. OTOH the phototransistors used in the IR receivers are sensitive to a range of wavelengths (sensitivity vs. wavelength is a bell curve), so they don't always have to match exactly. The Agenda (an early Linux PDA back in 1999 or 2000) had a CIR emitter for just that purpose. It was also possible to use the Palm's IrDA port for remote-controlling your TV etc. but the range was very short, like 3 feet or less. Another company was selling a CIR emitter you could plug into the HotSync port to get longer range. Of course if you install an IrDA transceiver in your PC, you could use an IrDA handheld as a remote for it. But then why not use Bluetooth or WiFi? IR is too directional. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Uncle Kridley: > Michael Shiloh wrote: > > There will be a charger for the Neo Freerunner, which has the secret > > resistor jOERG mentions below. > > Does this mean that it won't charge (or will only charge slowly) from a > generic USB connector/charger? Part of the point of USB charging is > that you don't need a proprietary charger for every device you own. If > the Freerunner won't charge off generic USB, I'll be sad. Though i have no clue what's really going on with this, there are some facts that might help imagine: - USB-clients (like NEO in charge mode) may pull 100mA from a USB-host. With advertising (i guess, via some USB-data protocol), a device may increase allowable current to 500mA. However many clients break this spec, by either not advertising or drawing >500mA. - Everything over 500mA is considered illegal and may (also _should_ not) damage host USB adapters. (there are chances to kill a laptop USB port with external HD-drives! If both are sloppy designed) - For quick charge purposes, NEO might well take 1 - 2 A from USB adapter. However extreme care should be taken not to "smoke up" a poor designed host. So maybe: - charge from any host (incl simplistic chargers): 100mA (6-12h) - charge from "intelligent" host: 500mA (1-2h) - charge from quickcharger with magic R: 1500mA (<1h) Switching to fast and/or ultrafast charge mode possible also with prev. mentioned script. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from SD
The problem might be your u-boot version. Try this one: http://buildhost.automated.it/u-boot-good-for-sd-boot-r13_0_2632_0.bin It's what I've been using successfully. I never could get it to work with other u-boot versions I tried. Ortwin On 2/28/08, Emre Turkay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've downloaded the Feb.20.2008 images from > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D > , > formatted the SD card as ext3, and prepared the SD for Boot as described in > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD. When I selected boot from > sdcard option from the boot menu I've got a long list of errors (I couldn't > read them) just before I was about to give up I've got the text login: > screen. The sshd was not working either. > > What's wrong and I wonder did anybody successfully use the boot from sd card > option? > > Thanks, > > Emre Turkay > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Booting from SD
Hi folks, I've downloaded the Feb.20.2008 images from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D , formatted the SD card as ext3, and prepared the SD for Boot as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD. When I selected boot from sdcard option from the boot menu I've got a long list of errors (I couldn't read them) just before I was about to give up I've got the text login: screen. The sshd was not working either. What's wrong and I wonder did anybody successfully use the boot from sd card option? Thanks, Emre Turkay ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Michael Shiloh wrote: > There will be a charger for the Neo Freerunner, which has the secret > resistor jOERG mentions below. Does this mean that it won't charge (or will only charge slowly) from a generic USB connector/charger? Part of the point of USB charging is that you don't need a proprietary charger for every device you own. If the Freerunner won't charge off generic USB, I'll be sad. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Populated IrDA?
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb joerg: > Near OT: what's "Hold" on 3. ring of same connector... Sorry: "Hold" on 1.ring aka tip / MIC. 3. ring = "jack insert sense" / LOut (/ IR_enable). j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Thanks, Michael! Just downloading the script from my host works for me. Please let me know when you have the hosting moved so I can update the wiki page. I will also soon have an interim solution for importing contacts from the SIM into the address book for you to put up there, too :-) I need to get my stuff into revision control, too. I'll try to get it into projects.openmoko.org soon. > Subject: Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02) > Bobby, > > I'm glad you posted this again, I've been meaning to tell you I'll be > happy to host your script on downloads.openmoko.org. Shall I just copy > the script from your host? > > Michael > > Bobby Martin wrote: > > In case some of you aren't on the device owners list I posted this to > > before, I created a script that will detect when you're plugged into a > > charger that's causing a slow (100mA) charge and will ask if you want > > to do fast charge instead. [snip] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Populated IrDA?
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Alan Ide: > [...] Could someone please let me know > if it is or is not populated / usable?? I really want to be able to use my > FreeRunner as my universal remote using LIRC. +1 Though i think there's no way to have an IrDA inside GTA01 (OT, i know) for there's no specs for any IR-window in the case. Maybe related(also GTA01, no schematics;-( for 02): what's the use of TX-IRDA, RX-IRDA on 1. & 2. ring of headset connector(3,4), ending on GSM-module pins of same name, enabled by pulling 3. ring to GND (4.ring, base)? How is this supposed to be used? In case of an external IR-adapter: where to take TX-LED power from? I suppose mic bias (2k2) won't suffice. Near OT: what's "Hold" on 3. ring of same connector supposed to signal to CPU? RC (A/D - R-cascade. in case: supposed R-values?)? An application sample for full featured external (RC-)headset / other (IR-)device(s) might help! completely OT: ambient light sensor? (PCU is supposed to support...) jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Populated IrDA?
I see in the tech specs of the FreeRunner that the CPU has IrDA built in, but I cant find anything listed in the specs that shows it as being used. However I saw a youtube interview the other day that I believe had a passing mention about it being available for use. Could someone please let me know if it is or is not populated / usable?? I really want to be able to use my FreeRunner as my universal remote using LIRC. Thank you. Alan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Bobby, I'm glad you posted this again, I've been meaning to tell you I'll be happy to host your script on downloads.openmoko.org. Shall I just copy the script from your host? Michael Bobby Martin wrote: In case some of you aren't on the device owners list I posted this to before, I created a script that will detect when you're plugged into a charger that's causing a slow (100mA) charge and will ask if you want to do fast charge instead. Examples of such chargers include a car charger, the usb port on a Windows computer without the Neo inf installed, etc. I created a script to monitor for slow charge and pop up a gui asking if you want to switch to fast charge mode. The default instructions install the script and an init.d script to start & stop it, as well as links to make the daemon start automatically. The page telling how to install is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script From the page: What it does Your neo will detect when it is charging slowly and pop up a gui to ask if you want to switch to fast charge mode. It will take a few seconds to detect that you are charging slowly. Details checkFastCharge will remember if you select slow charge and not ask you again. If you accidentally selected slow charge, unplug the neo from the charger for several seconds, then plug it back in. Next time the script checks, it will ask again if you want slow or fast charge. When you select fast charge, the script goes through a confirmation sequence, because fast charge can be dangerous for your hardware if the charger doesn't support 500 mA or more. Just click 'Confirm' four times to confirm that you want to go into fast charge mode. Let me know if you see obvious improvements, or if you want to make an ipkg of it (I will eventually do so myself...), or if you know a better place for me to host the download. Bobby Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: > I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. > The device is > charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody > allready checked > this charger? > > > Device Data: > Delta Electronics inc. > AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M > Model: ADP-5FH C > Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz > Output: 5V = 1A LPS > Frequency Level 4 What i've learned so far: The strange thing with USB-charger is a resistor of certain Ohms (47k IIRC) that's supposed to connect 2 pins of the charger's plug "to identify OM-charger". I can't say whether this is standard for USB-chargers, or what will happen when NEO doesn't sense this resistor on USB-power detection. Charging seems to be controlled by the main CPU via PCU-chip. If there's no CPU control e.g. due to completely flat accu, only a very low secure trickle charge takes place (->"if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try again after ~30 min..."). There are chances this will be the same for missing resistor, depending on what logic is in the "driver". Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity
Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Andre, and welcome to the project. > > You have to distinguish between the two models of Neo. > > There was no charger for the Neo 1973. > > There will be a charger for the Neo Freerunner, which has the secret > resistor jOERG mentions below. Will it be shipped with the base kit? Also, is there a page on the wiki listing what one will get in the base kit? Thanks, -- Lucas Bonnet Bearstech - http://bearstech.com PS: I truly liked the advanced kit packaging for my GTA01, I'd love to have it again for the GTA02. pgpPbBVG6ZNiK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
Openmoko will be participating, and I'll be organizing. I wasn't involved last year so my first task will be to find out what I have to do. Michael Oliver Uvman wrote: As you all probably know, the summer of code 2008 has been announced, and now is the time for organisations to start readying their applications. Will OpenMoko try to grab a few of us want-to-get-into-OSS students for 3 months of paid summer coding? Please say yes. Pretty please? As a student I already have my eyes on a few organisations that I know will try to become mentoring orgs, but if OpenMoko also got onto the list I would be extremely happy to try to become one of your crazed code monkeys. So what say you? Regards, Oliver U ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Andre Lanvermann wrote: Oooh, the it seems i missunderstood the previous Messages. I was sure that there is NO Charger for the NEO Except the USB Port of a Computer. Im sorry :( Greetings Andre Hi Andre, and welcome to the project. You have to distinguish between the two models of Neo. There was no charger for the Neo 1973. There will be a charger for the Neo Freerunner, which has the secret resistor jOERG mentions below. Michael joerg schrieb: Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. The device is charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody allready checked this charger? Device Data: Delta Electronics inc. AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M Model: ADP-5FH C Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz Output: 5V = 1A LPS Frequency Level 4 What i've learned so far: The strange thing with USB-charger is a resistor of certain Ohms (47k IIRC) that's supposed to connect 2 pins of the charger's plug "to identify OM-charger". I can't say whether this is standard for USB-chargers, or what will happen when NEO doesn't sense this resistor on USB-power detection. Charging seems to be controlled by the main CPU via PCU-chip. If there's no CPU control e.g. due to completely flat accu, only a very low secure trickle charge takes place (->"if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try again after ~30 min..."). There are chances this will be the same for missing resistor, depending on what logic is in the "driver". Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
In case some of you aren't on the device owners list I posted this to before, I created a script that will detect when you're plugged into a charger that's causing a slow (100mA) charge and will ask if you want to do fast charge instead. Examples of such chargers include a car charger, the usb port on a Windows computer without the Neo inf installed, etc. I created a script to monitor for slow charge and pop up a gui asking if you want to switch to fast charge mode. The default instructions install the script and an init.d script to start & stop it, as well as links to make the daemon start automatically. The page telling how to install is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script >From the page: What it does Your neo will detect when it is charging slowly and pop up a gui to ask if you want to switch to fast charge mode. It will take a few seconds to detect that you are charging slowly. Details checkFastCharge will remember if you select slow charge and not ask you again. If you accidentally selected slow charge, unplug the neo from the charger for several seconds, then plug it back in. Next time the script checks, it will ask again if you want slow or fast charge. When you select fast charge, the script goes through a confirmation sequence, because fast charge can be dangerous for your hardware if the charger doesn't support 500 mA or more. Just click 'Confirm' four times to confirm that you want to go into fast charge mode. Let me know if you see obvious improvements, or if you want to make an ipkg of it (I will eventually do so myself...), or if you know a better place for me to host the download. Bobby > Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: > > I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. > > The device is > > charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody > > allready checked > > this charger? > > > > > > Device Data: > > Delta Electronics inc. > > AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M > > Model: ADP-5FH C > > Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz > > Output: 5V = 1A LPS > > Frequency Level 4 > > What i've learned so far: > The strange thing with USB-charger is a resistor of certain Ohms (47k IIRC) > that's supposed to connect 2 pins of the charger's plug "to identify > OM-charger". > I can't say whether this is standard for USB-chargers, or what will happen > when NEO doesn't sense this resistor on USB-power detection. > Charging seems to be controlled by the main CPU via PCU-chip. If there's no > CPU control e.g. due to completely flat accu, only a very low secure trickle > charge takes place (->"if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try > again after ~30 min..."). There are chances this will be the same for missing > resistor, depending on what logic is in the "driver". > Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. > > jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: > Oooh, the it seems i missunderstood the previous Messages. I was sure > that there is NO Charger > for the NEO Except the USB Port of a Computer. Im sorry :( from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Charger ___ Charger ___ AKII Technology Charger Model: A10P1-05MP Input: 100-240v~ /0.3A Output: +5v up to 2.0A Add 47.5k 1% resistor between ID pin and ground for openmoko charger identification Anyway a good question, whether there will be other chargers working with GTA02 jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
Dnia Thursday 28 of February 2008, Lally Singh napisał: > Hmm, Google will pay $500 to the mentor. To mentor's organization. It is up to organization how this money will be spent. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Linux! -- Because a big world can not fit in small windows. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Oooh, the it seems i missunderstood the previous Messages. I was sure that there is NO Charger for the NEO Except the USB Port of a Computer. Im sorry :( Greetings Andre joerg schrieb: Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. The device is charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody allready checked this charger? Device Data: Delta Electronics inc. AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M Model: ADP-5FH C Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz Output: 5V = 1A LPS Frequency Level 4 What i've learned so far: The strange thing with USB-charger is a resistor of certain Ohms (47k IIRC) that's supposed to connect 2 pins of the charger's plug "to identify OM-charger". I can't say whether this is standard for USB-chargers, or what will happen when NEO doesn't sense this resistor on USB-power detection. Charging seems to be controlled by the main CPU via PCU-chip. If there's no CPU control e.g. due to completely flat accu, only a very low secure trickle charge takes place (->"if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try again after ~30 min..."). There are chances this will be the same for missing resistor, depending on what logic is in the "driver". Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Andre Lanvermann: > I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. > The device is > charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody > allready checked > this charger? > > > Device Data: > Delta Electronics inc. > AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M > Model: ADP-5FH C > Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz > Output: 5V = 1A LPS > Frequency Level 4 What i've learned so far: The strange thing with USB-charger is a resistor of certain Ohms (47k IIRC) that's supposed to connect 2 pins of the charger's plug "to identify OM-charger". I can't say whether this is standard for USB-chargers, or what will happen when NEO doesn't sense this resistor on USB-power detection. Charging seems to be controlled by the main CPU via PCU-chip. If there's no CPU control e.g. due to completely flat accu, only a very low secure trickle charge takes place (->"if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try again after ~30 min..."). There are chances this will be the same for missing resistor, depending on what logic is in the "driver". Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About ipkg on Openmoko
> Downloading > http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/all/Packages.gz > wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure This tell me that your phone cannot reach the internet, did you set up port forwarding on your pc? Try pinging an external ip address from your phone, if this fails then your phone can't reach the internet. copy over the .ipkg file to your neo and do a local install ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)
Hello OpenMoko Community, im reading the OpenMoko Wiki and the Community Updates some time now, and i just registered for some OpenMoko Mailinglists. I read the Archives and found this Topic. I own a T-Mobile MDA Vario. The device is charged via USB too. And theay included an USB Wallcharger. Have anybody allready checked this charger? Device Data: Delta Electronics inc. AC Adapter HTC P/N: 79H00051-02M Model: ADP-5FH C Input: 100-240V~ 0,2A 50-60hz Output: 5V = 1A LPS Frequency Level 4 And a link to a Shop wich is offering this: http://htcaccessories.com/htc-touch-oem-travel-charger-adp-5fh.html I hope i could help with my first mail :-) Greetings Andre (Phantomal) Lanvermann ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
Hmm, Google will pay $500 to the mentor. That'd cover the hardware if OpenMoko wanted to use it for that purpose instead. Although, is google gonna be happy supporting an android competitor? :-P On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Oliver Uvman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you all probably know, the summer of code 2008 has been announced, and > now is the time for organisations to start readying their applications. Will > OpenMoko try to grab a few of us want-to-get-into-OSS students for 3 months > of paid summer coding? Please say yes. Pretty please? > > As a student I already have my eyes on a few organisations that I know will > try to become mentoring orgs, but if OpenMoko also got onto the list I would > be extremely happy to try to become one of your crazed code monkeys. So what > say you? > > Regards, > Oliver U > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
About ipkg on Openmoko
hello~ I want to install the python project download from http://projects.openmoko.org/ . so I did $ ipkg install python-gsmd_0.01-r1_armv4t.ipk but it was failed what should I do for this? the messages : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ipkg install python-gsmd_0.01-r1_armv4t.ipk Installing python-gsmd (0.01-r1) to root... Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 1. Collected errors: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for python-gsmd: python-core python-core libgsmd-devel (>= 0.1+svnr3293) libpython2.5-1.0 (>= 2.5.1) Otherwise, How do I update my ipkg on my moko? I did$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then $ ipkg update the messages : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ipkg update Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/all/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/armv4t/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/fic-gta01/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/neo1973/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/all/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/fic-gta01/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/neo1973/Packages.gz wget: downloads.openmoko.org: Host name lookup failure An error ocurred, return value: 8. Collected errors: ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/all/Packages.gz' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/armv4t/Packages.gz' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/fic-gta01/Packages.gz' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/ipk/neo1973/Packages.gz' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/all/Packages.gz' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/Packages.gz ' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/fic-gta01/Packages.gz ' ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp-q -P /tmp/ipkg-0TW0c0 http://downloads.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/neo1973/Packages.gz ' THX a lot Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
