On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:36:48AM +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
Hi there!
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen...
I got the following idea:
If you can't find you moko, you only have to send an SMS with a special
I bet if you could name such a device, they would have no problem in using it for future products.
I bet that if my incomes would exclusively depend on producing such a
device, i would use time to search for it.
Everything i do, or sale, depends on free software (even for drivers),
even if
Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
I think it would be the best way...
And why is it not fair?
He would be a real part of the project. What's wrong with that?
Well, why not. i'm not concerned. just to be asked to the chip vendor.
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Hello,
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Alexey Feldgendler
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Are roundabouts in tunnels an April fool? Never encountered one.
No, roundabouts in tunnels are real - we even have one or two such
tunnels here in Norway.
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Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Dear Hervé,
here is my perspective:
[...;]
Most chip vendors see their business in selling chips. Documentation is
engineers can. Again we could only do this with vendors who understand
what we are doing, trust us, and generally agree to the idea. We would
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| 1.City surveillance (live project) --- installing digital camera
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| using WiMax network ( mobile Internet ) .
| Is OpenMoko CPE a good choice for niche or special
| applications
I'm getting an uneasy feeling about the GTA01 power management issues, the
questions has been asked more then once in this forum, but I havn't seen any
answeres. Is openmoko trying to put the lid on or what ?
/Fredrik
On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Alexey Feldgendler
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:35:17 +0200, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
When I steal the phone, the first thing that I will do is to turn off the
phone. Then because I am afraid to be detected by cell I will
An application only tx/rx'ing periodic and small amounts of data may work
better running on top of sms.
Matt
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Michele Renda ha scritto:
When I steal the phone, the first thing that I will do is to turn off
the phone. Then because I am afraid to be detected by cell I will change
the internal sim, before to turn on it.
Well, this is true but sending data on next power-on could help.
BTW, here we're
It's certainly prudent to realise that this is far from a full-proof
phone theft prevention system. I realise it's a little redundant to say
aaw, but no security is airtight anyway!, but it's worth pointing out
nonetheless.
Encrypted data, a device that phones home... these are all flawed but
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Sean Anderson
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It's certainly prudent to realise that this is far from a full-proof
phone theft prevention system. I realise it's a little redundant to say
aaw, but no security is airtight anyway!, but it's worth pointing out
I don't want to say this is the solution for all the problems:
As cool as all the solutions sound, we have to think of some
problems/implications:
1) What happens if the sim gets changed?
It continue to run, because the program is not sim related. Whe it see a
tcp/ip connection it send a
Hello
I am a programmer, and I possible I will have some of the technical
capacity to develop something like this.
I don't have any experience about OpenMoko programming, so, is very
possible I will not have success.
But I will try to do, when I will buy my first FreeRunner ( I hope it
will
Dear khang,
Is OpenMoko CPE a good choice for niche or special
applications or not ???
Any ideas ?
If not , many of the developers will go for Android .
That is not good .
Let me use this opportunity to talk a bit about Openmoko and Android.
First of all we
A phone can always receive a call. The number itself is information and can be
acted on, without answering the call. I think there's a couple of ways to
send a cue in a similar way, maybe.
Matt
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On 4/4/08, Steven Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 03 April 2008 11:25:17 pm Joseph Jon Booker wrote:
3. What is required to deem the project complete?
http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_evaluations
the evaluations determine if you get paid is the
Hello
I'd like to know if there is a qemu image of freerunner.
Now I am using qemu-neo1973: the software conteined in this release is
the same software that it will be present in freerunner?
This image contains also the GPS emulation?
Thank you
I too am (some sort of) developer. I tried to mess around a bit with
soem simple openmoko programming some months ago (pre-GTA01), but
since then we've gotten a long way. as far as I can understand it,
most of this options ould'nt be difficult, and if the correct bindings
are provided, could even
According you is possible to prepare it with an qemu emulated system?
Or is necessary to have the true hardware?
ramsesoriginal wrote:
I too am (some sort of) developer. I tried to mess around a bit with
soem simple openmoko programming some months ago (pre-GTA01), but
since then we've gotten a
Can you send a link to the image?
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Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
Can you send a link to the image?
I use the qemu image available using:
svn checkout https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973
then making openmoko/download.sh it download the openmoko image.
I undestand that to have an Freerunner emulator I have to apply
The phone needs an application where we can configure which of all
these ideas we want to use (sending coordinates phone no, detecting
if out of reach from BT device, etc).
I would like my phone to log the GPS info + current phone no to my
server, where the information would be stored in a mysql
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear khang,
Let me use this opportunity to talk a bit about Openmoko and Android.
First of all we really like Android! We don't see Android as
competition, it is complementary to what we are doing and may help us
in many ways.
snip
Thanks for this
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:32 PM, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taiwan CPE developers of WiMax (etc..) are looking for a new
OS/plateform ,
so their applications won't be limited .
We are planning
1.City surveillance (live project) --- installing digital camera
Sorry for replying to my own post. I just noticed that I quoted the wrong mail:(
What I meant to quote was:
Is possible to implement a system to get all these data to the server
(one time it is allarmed) and to delete the phone copy.
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On 4/4/08, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If you look at the Android software stack, you will notice that they
basically only use the Linux kernel and a few traditional 'helper'
libraries, written in C (jpg, png, etc).
But the bulk of the system is written from scratch. They even
Thanks
I will try it when I is in Linux
Michele Renda skrev:
Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
Can you send a link to the image?
I use the qemu image available using:
svn checkout https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973
then making openmoko/download.sh it download the openmoko image.
About the we can do nothing if the phone is turned off by the thief
immediately - maybe we can do at least something:
- implement the regular shutdown via a hidden menu entry, maybe with a
password
- if the phone is instead turned off via the (hardware) power button of the
Neo we just fake a
Michele Renda ha scritto:
According you is possible to prepare it with an qemu emulated system?
Or is necessary to have the true hardware?
AFAIK you can simply install Openmoko stack in any hardware, also in a
standard PC, simply follow the wiki [1]!
[1] http://tinyurl.com/6bkfpj
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Hi Matthew,
I have checked with the experts.
GTA01 debug board will work with GTA02 (Freerunner), with some exceptions:
1. You can not program NOR FLASH
2. I2C and SPI aren’t available on the debug board
The main functions, JTAG and serial console, will be just fine. And you
CAN program NAND
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 01:25 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Let me use this opportunity to talk a bit about Openmoko and Android.
First of all we really like Android! We don't see Android as
competition, it is complementary to what we are doing and may help us
in many ways.
For all those
Marcus Bauer wrote:
For all those who have missed it out, there is a company named Koolu
which is going to sell the Neo with Android. [1] CTO of Koolu is Jon
'maddog' Hall, quite a well known personality.
As another note, they just changed availability for developers from
March to June. Thus if
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