Re: Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

Michael Shiloh wrote: > I'm sorry to have disappointed you all. I'm afraid that due to unforseen > circumstances I was unable to attend. To my regret I wasn't able to > inform the conference organizers in time. > > Just out of curiosity, how many were in the Openmoko session? Michael, Your sess

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!

HAHA How old are they? steve skrev: I decided to do a test of sorts. I gave a phone to the boys and decided to let them see if they could Figure it out. I gave them 1 bit of info. Go buy a Pay as you go phone and make sure it's GSM. Put That Sim in the NEO. And I made them use their money.

Re: Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

Hi Ajit, I'm sorry to have disappointed you all. I'm afraid that due to unforseen circumstances I was unable to attend. To my regret I wasn't able to inform the conference organizers in time. Just out of curiosity, how many were in the Openmoko session? Michael Ajit Natarajan wrote: Micha

Re: Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

Here's hoping there's no tragedy involved! Best wishes to Michael and the conference-goers. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Ajit Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > A lot of us were eagerly awaiting your presentation at the Embedded > Linux Conference in Mountain View, Californi

Re: wiki help

Wednesday 16 April 2008 skrev Shawn: > Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off list > that is)? > > It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. > > thanks, > > . . .Shawn To be entirely honest, i am not sure who figured out that a list of this sort

Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

Michael, A lot of us were eagerly awaiting your presentation at the Embedded Linux Conference in Mountain View, California, earlier today. They canceled the talk because they couldn't locate you. We were looking forward to handling the Freerunner Ajit __

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:37 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I decided to do a test of sorts. I gave a phone to the boys and decided to > let them see if they could > Figure it out. I gave them 1 bit of info. Go buy a Pay as you go phone and > make sure it's GSM. Put > That Sim in the NEO

Re: wiki help

hmm okay it's not as easy as we wanted to do :) here is an explanation : | width="25%" rowspan="4" | Sample country | width="25%" rowspan="3"| sample region #1 | width="25%" rowspan="2"| sample city | width="25%" | sample buyer #1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber_Id |- | width="

Re: e-mail app on OM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I´d like a tiny clone of Mozilla Thunderbird. I don't know, if it is realizeable or reasonable, but there might be best synchonization to other devices. Mozilla Thunderbird is available for different platforms, so there might be less problems with

RE: e-mail app on OM

We should probably have a MOST WANTED list of apps on the Wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:06 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: e-mail app on OM i've had a look thr

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Thanks Lon. Good comment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lon Lentz Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:12 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update For quite a while now I've been reading comment

RE: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

See what you think. The one issue might be that you have to use their design Package ( a little funky) and I don't recall being able to get an data base of your Design files. So, it's a bit sketchy on the open philosophy side of things. I havent been to their site in couple years, so lets check it

Re: wiki help

I struggled with that myself last night. goto the group sales table, click edit...look at Los Angeles and folow pattern? It you have specific Q , hit me back... /matthew On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question

RE: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!

I decided to do a test of sorts. I gave a phone to the boys and decided to let them see if they could Figure it out. I gave them 1 bit of info. Go buy a Pay as you go phone and make sure it's GSM. Put That Sim in the NEO. And I made them use their money. I also told them to make a you tube vide

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Lon Lentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For quite a while now I've been reading comments from people saying > that this issue or that issue is a "deal breaker". I've been reading > hardware requests and demands that stretch the gambit from quaint and > interestin

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

Jeff Tranter wrote: Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02? yes.it already runs. needs work though, audio issues, etc. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:53:13 Steven ** wrote: I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and probab

e-mail app on OM

i've had a look through the projects page, and done a quick search on the wiki, and can't see an e-mail app anywhere. do OM have one planned, or is this something that will be left to the community? is anyone working on anything? ___ Openmoko community m

Re: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com > They do injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors. Oh that's awesome. It has been years in coming (they promised it for a long time). _

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

For quite a while now I've been reading comments from people saying that this issue or that issue is a "deal breaker". I've been reading hardware requests and demands that stretch the gambit from quaint and interesting to just down right silly. If this is the environment in which all FOSS is devel

Re: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

I've never used emachineshop, but I will ask around. Perhaps some of my friends have. Michael steve wrote: I love emachineshop. I thought of approaching them to do some kinda co promotion. Maybe Michael Shiloh can weigh in here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E

wiki help

Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off list that is)? It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. thanks, . . .Shawn Be a better friend, newshound, a

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Go for it. Let me know if I can help in any way. Off list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Stubbs Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:36 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion; Hugo Mills Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and P

Re: OpenMoko application software

On 4/16/08, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a mail list devoted to application software and > related user interface issues for OpenMoko? According to http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ you should check out *openmoko-devel*

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On 16/04/2008, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have no experience at all in manufacturing -- my closest moment > came when I did some work on production scheduling in a flour mill -- > but I still thought it was worth finding out what it would cost to do > it. I doubt that I'll ha

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

steve wrote: Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage boys. Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. If they break the hardware, is that a successful stress test? Ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list commu

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

Kevin Dean wrote: With CDMA, you will not be able to use your phone on their network unless they say ok. This is also true of GSM. It would be stupid to adopt ANY technology that didn't give you the ability to reject who could use it. If the carrier didn't have ultimate control then they'd no

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First question was can I play WOW on it. > > Answer could be : yes ! code it :) > I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in my forehead anymore. > > better than Botox. > > -- > *From:* [EMAIL PRO

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

Wednesday 16 April 2008 skrev Jeff Tranter: > Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02? There's a press release somewhere that the Trolls suggest using the Freerunner - this of course happened the same time as the GreenPhone sold out :) In short: They need a generic ta

OpenMoko application software

Is there a mail list devoted to application software and related user interface issues for OpenMoko? If not, could we please start one? putting on my flame proof suit: community@lists.openmoko.org (with all-too-rare exceptions) has devolved into almost AOL level blather about mundane stuff that

RE: next costumers location

There are differences. See the CAD files I cannot recall off the top of my noggin what they are. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Kruger Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re:

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

On Wed April 16 2008 12:41:03 pm steve wrote: > Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage > boys. > > Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. > > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.open

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Kevin Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steven ** wrote: This means I can't use my old CDMA sprint phone on my new verizon account. I'm assuming that it's POSSIBLE (how often it happens is irrelevant) to make a devic

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:07:18AM -0700, steve wrote: > One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable > others to seize these opportunities. > > So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even > shipped. I think this decision is > underappreci

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven ** wrote: > > > I don't see how GSM is much less "closed" of a network protocol than > > CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The > > GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A

Re: next costumers location

On Wed April 16 2008 2:30:04 pm AVee wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2008 01:13, steve wrote: > >A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace. > > *snif* > I will now forever (or at least the rest of the day) regret not buying a > GTA01. > > AVee Are the GTA01 and GTA02 cases the sa

Re: Re:Wrong Mini-USB-Jack

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:38:11 +0200, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will Freerunner be OTG? NEO could do either host or device, but didn't follow OTG spec to do it. OTG requires USB 2.0, which Neo doesn't support. -- Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 115226275] http://f

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

2008/4/15, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Space reasons. I've been told that most phones use 2,5mm today for that > reason. Not very true nowadays. I think 3,5mm should really be considered for the next product. Most new phones intended to be also music devices all have 3,5mm. That said, ha

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

Steven ** wrote: I don't see how GSM is much less "closed" of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip would be no different. Actually the situation here IS very different, bec

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

Lorry Potter from Trolltech is doing that. Jeff Tranter pravi: Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see how GSM is much less "closed" of a network protocol than > CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). Stop thinking in terms of the technology itself and think in terms of a userbase. In the ma

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:53:13 Steven ** wrote: > I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the > Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty > certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and > probably isn't too much effort

RE: HAPPY DANCE version .9

Hey, it's been a while and there is no blood. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven ** Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:15 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9 Is that supposed to stress

Re: openmoko roadmap

Speaking realistically, it's impossible for Openmoko to reveal that information and no have it hurt sales, for EXACTLY the reason you mentioned. As a support (and Neo1973 owner) I debated with this myself. Why pay for a phone today when I KNOW the "newer" model is around the corner? At the same ti

Re: openmoko roadmap

Well, what do you intend to do on your phone? Lacking further information, I'd say you being "an advanced linux user" makes you a prime candidate for a Neo. -Steven On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Peter Abplanalp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi all, > > with the release of the freerunner coming

RE: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Well, you actualy have to design the case to allow painting. Paint has THICKNESS. So if you look at the clearence for buttons, you would have one clearence for a non painted plastic and a bigger clearence for a painted plastic part. I have made this mistake before, when I wanted to change color

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and probably isn't too much effort to support GTA02. -Steven On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM,

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

I don't see how GSM is much less "closed" of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip would be no different. As far as the aims of the Openmoko project, I don't see how CDMA confli

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

Introduce them to the wonders of MUD gaming from a telnet session launched out of bash. Either that, or has nethack been ported to OM yet??? On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:40 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First question was can I play WOW on it. > > I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkle

Re: Stop talking about hardware!

Hehe yeah no hard feelings. I was just being a smartass about people making their own injection molded cases. I agree that there have been a lot of people talking here, as well as on the wiki (see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware ), about hardware dreams that are very very VERY

Re: openmoko roadmap

On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:20:44 Peter Abplanalp wrote: > with the release of the freerunner coming up, i'm wondering about the > roadmap and future for openmoko and additional phones. i'm an advanced > linux user but have no experience with openmoko or the cell phone platform > and thus i'm wo

Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: HAPPY DANCE version .9

First question was can I play WOW on it. I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in my forehead anymore. better than Botox. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Le Roux Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:56 AM To: List for Openmoko community discuss

RE: Mini jack 2.5mm?

I have not decided on the final package contents Joerg. When I do, I will let people know. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: M

Re: next costumers location

On Monday 14 April 2008 01:13, steve wrote: > >A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace. *snif* I will now forever (or at least the rest of the day) regret not buying a GTA01. AVee -- Never eat more than you can lift. -- Miss Piggy ___

openmoko roadmap

hi all, with the release of the freerunner coming up, i'm wondering about the roadmap and future for openmoko and additional phones. i'm an advanced linux user but have no experience with openmoko or the cell phone platform and thus i'm wondering if the the freerunner is the phone for me or not s

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

GSM is essentially an international standard. With some exceptions, CDMA isn't used much. Furthermore, even in the USA, Verizon will be deploying a GSM network "soon" (next few years). So a Freerunner WILL work on Verizon in the near future. Don't count on a CDMA device, using a relatively "close

3G? What about CDMA?

I talk with friends and co-workers about OpenMoko and the Neo Freerunner all the time. Inevitably, they say something like "That's cool. Will it work with Verizon?" or "That's cool. Will it work with Sprint?". And of course, the answer is no... I don't think any of my friends are with at&t (ev

RE: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

I love emachineshop. I thought of approaching them to do some kinda co promotion. Maybe Michael Shiloh can weigh in here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven ** Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community di

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

This is EXACTLY why we freed the CAD files -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Mills Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:58 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 a

Ringtones and ringing volume

Hi. I was wondering: how is the volume of the freerunner speaker? Currently I like being able to hear my falling-apart nokia from rooms away. And is the speaker any good for vorbis/mp3/etc ringtones, or do those get too distorted or not loud enough? Can anyone that has the hardware comment on thi

Stop talking about hardware!

Matt Manjos wrote: I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case, maybe shipped with primer already painted on it. Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole customization thing. Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection moldi

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: > > > GTA02 will ship with a 32 Ohm anyway... :-/ Sorry, that's to say: "GTA01 was shipping with a 32R headset". Probably GTA02 will be shipping with much of the accessories trade in for nice price - see recent discussion on this. cheers jOERG ___

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

steve wrote: One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable others to seize these opportunities. So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even shipped. I think this decision is underappreciated. The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go pr

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

Is that supposed to stress the phone? Or you? ;-) -Steven On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage > boys. > > Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. > _

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable others to seize these opportunities. So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even shipped. I think this decision is underappreciated. The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go price a pound o

Re: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case, maybe shipped with primer already painted on it. Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole customization thing. Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection molding kits, too ;) On W

Re: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell "blank" case, non finished ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ? I don't think only with painting, but integrate an eye cam or other expansion pack, or wifi external connectors for example... Even one water proof why not :)

Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9

So it appears to be the destructive test ;) On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two > teenage > boys. > > Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. > > > > > > > > __

HAPPY DANCE version .9

Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage boys. Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

32 Ohm pretty much is standard. Neo comes with standard headset. For really god sound (with bass) you'll need a high Imp (= much Ohm) headset. Up to 800 Ohm. More Ohm = more bass, up to 800 Ohm. cheers jOERG Am Mi 16. April 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth: > Soo > 32 Ohm is okey? > How rare is

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

Soo 32 Ohm is okey? How rare is they? [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Am Mi 16. April 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth: Perhaps that. But I want to listen to music with other thing then the headset that follows. I know I need a 8Ohms headset to use it on the NEO But is 8 ohm soo commen? Alexande

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

>From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of material (ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the mold tool that is the expensive part.. For one project I'm involved in I think the mold tool was something like $10KUSD.. This is a production quality (read hig

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

Am Mi 16. April 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth: > Perhaps that. > But I want to listen to music with other thing then the headset that > follows. > I know I need a 8Ohms headset to use it on the NEO > But is 8 ohm soo commen? > > Alexander Frøyseth Nope, you should go for a 800 Ohm headset, wh

Re: End User Input....and Question

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The hardware is complete. But I assume that if hardware bugs are discovered, it will be considered to fix them before the consumer release (depending on the bug). Since all the software isn't ready yet, I guess

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Spare the case plastics (create an orderable part number) and have a "Trick out your Neo" contest. Grand prize? An autographed photo of the Neo Team! Or perhaps the remains of a Neo after the "destructive tests". If I could buy an extra case for around US$20 to $30, I'd probably give it a whirl.

Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com They do injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors. I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of cases and then reselling them or not. -Steven On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:32:09PM +0200, Peter Kraker wrote: > Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and > start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors. I thought the same. So I've picked an injection moulding firm more or less at random,

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors. Bastian Muck pravi: What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and cut them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to

RE: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

Not that I have the any correct legal answers, but in a past life I worked for a research medical company that shipped equipment from the US to the EU(Germany) as "Research". Yes, it did reduce the headache of customs, cost, taxes, etc. If I remember correctly, the product that was labeled as "Res

Re: Data over normal GSM call

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:17:19AM +0200, Stefano Cavallari wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2008 21:00:34 Harald Welte wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 07:57:02PM -0500, Hans L wrote: > [...] > > AFAIR, the DTMF key press is encoded and send over the Um (air) > > interface to the BTS/BSC/MSC and then

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

Subject: Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway Date: Wed 16 Apr 08 04:21:40PM +0200 Quoting Edwin Lock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best to > mail TRIsoft about this). But there were voices that FIC was about to set up a europea

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Edwin Lock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best > to mail TRIsoft about this). > Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350 > Euro + shipping). > www.trisoft.de/openmoko >

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

350 EURO + 5 EURO for shipping and handling to me as a german citizen. They are from Germany so I don't know if they sell to Norway as well and under the same conditions. So maybe higher S&H price. :/ Order together with many people as you can get. And yes, get their money first... ;-) Roland

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best to mail TRIsoft about this). Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350 Euro + shipping). www.trisoft.de/openmoko On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Alexander Frøyseth < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

Hi, > The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399€ There was a correction to 350 EUR. If you live outside EU, you don't have to pay the taxes (19%), so it comes to ca. 295 EUR, but you have to pay the taxes in your country. Dirk ___ Openm

Buy the Neo fra Norway

Hei I have heard that only people from Asia and US can buy from OpenMoko And that people fra Europe have to buy from trisoft. The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399€ I do NOT know if this is true or correct Is this true? ___ Openmoko

Re: End User Input....and Question

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rune Gangstø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? IT shoudn't be too hard, and I expect that tools and documentation will be made available for Windows, Mac and Linux users. > Is it like this version is complete, but so

Re: End User Input....and Question

On 4/16/08, Rune Gangstø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good > idea. > > How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? > Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the > hardware to be changed when the en

Re: End User Input....and Question

I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good idea. How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the hardware to be changed when the end user version is ready? Rune Gangstø 2008/4/16, Jay Vaughan <

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:05:10PM +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote: > Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being > able to customice your case as a lot of comercial > moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female > work college has his laptop, movile phone and mp3 all > in he

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Hey there is nothing more dearly than a happy developer dancing after a successfull test. :) Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being able to customice your case as a lot of comercial moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female work college has his laptop, movile phone and

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

On 4/16/08, Justyn Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > On 15/04/2008, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > QWERTY keyboards and appropriate cases are, I believe, produced > > already, and can be subcontracted. There is no surprise in a QWERTY > > keyboard. > > > >

Re: PVT Update.

Maybe if we send Steve a blender... :) On 4/15/08, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, but will it blend? > > > > Ahah :) > > for those who didn't get it... : http://www.willitblend.com/ > > > > > > > > __

Re: PVT Update.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but will it blend? > Ahah :) for those who didn't get it... : http://www.willitblend.com/ > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > ht

3D and auto-config.

Hi, Here is an article (in french, sorry): http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2008-04-12/#16175 about a very simple phone (one button: Call an operator, or Call emergency), with 2 good functionnalities: Phone on the desktop -> Speaker on On the desktop, reversed -> Vibrator mode That can be a g

Re: End User Input....and Question

I have 5 cell phones that need to be recycledwhat a waste. Find dev-kits for them and build apps with them .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/comm

Official distributor list

Can we please have a list of the official distributors for the Freerunner. -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community