Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

Re[2]: Video Playback virtually impossible on Neo Freerunner? (Re:Video of Qt 4.4 on Neo1973: brings iPhone like graphics)

2008-04-29 Thread t3st3r
Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote: But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that. Yes it is. It's just that sending mpeg4 packets to the glamo takes just a _tiny_ bit less

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? 2008/4/29 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-29 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, one of the bests laughs I've had on here! Although I'm pretty sure it violates PEP 346356 which clearly states that thou should not use exec and base64 :) If you think that python one-liner without base64 is

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? | Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. | Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off?

Re: Re[2]: Video Playback virtually impossible on Neo Freerunner? (Re:Video of Qt 4.4 on Neo1973: brings iPhone like graphics)

2008-04-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:04:25 +0400 t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote: But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that. Yes it is.

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Crane, Matthew
How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to | create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Well, both transistors are accessible without popping a can, but a) they are tiny and fiddly, and

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tim Coggins
Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. Therefore you wouldn't need to dig out your soldering iron. Does anyone know the other differences with power consumption are between

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: | | The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT | LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. Oh well, problem gone then :-) -

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

2008-04-29 Thread Gilbert Hartmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Crane, Matthew wrote: | How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to | create a wiki page detailing hw fix? | | Matt | | | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Mo Abrahams
Yay! That ends the turmoil going on in my mind between my impatience and my crippling desire to have the best of everything! On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 15:41 +0100, Tim Coggins wrote: Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT

Re: Italy User Group

2008-04-29 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto: Andrea Debortoli ha scritto: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Italy Just 2 things, when someone insert his/her name should also update the number at the top, just under the city! Hey, we are 37 people!! :D I waited for this thread... All

Re: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-29 Thread Lowell Higley
Ok.. I'm severely jet lagged but I will try to throw some closure on this and hope it is coherent. Steve has been very cordial and enlightening in his mails to me. The last I have yet to digest and respond to but overall it is good, constructive stuff. After reading the diaglogue that has

Re: Italy User Group

2008-04-29 Thread Andrea Debortoli
2008/4/29 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto: Andrea Debortoli ha scritto: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Italy Just 2 things, when someone insert his/her name should also update the number at the top, just under the city!

Re: Italy User Group

2008-04-29 Thread Birdack
Hey, we are 37 people!! :D now 38 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Italy User Group

2008-04-29 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andrea Debortoli wrote: I've already done this on www.neo1973.it http://www.neo1973.it but there's no many others places where we're sure to find interested peoplemaybe you could convince felipe...:)... Ok, I'll contact him... :) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux

RE: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-29 Thread Crane, Matthew
I understand what you're saying about engineers tossing a product over the wall being a throw back. *Of course* there's back and forth and both marketing and rnd contributing to each other.. But I think it is typical for engineers to yearn for a larger role in marketing decisions and, less

Community Update???

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Hennig
Hello Steve, Michael, since the last official community update was a few week ago i just have a short question about the status of freerunner. As i understood Steves last Update the PVTs are done and MP is ongoing. OM is just wating for a shipable SW. Did i get thar right? Regards Andreas

Re: Community Update???

2008-04-29 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andreas Hennig wrote: since the last official community update was a few week ago Months? :o :| Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us, than on writing here... BTW I'd like to read some twitter-form status-mails from them :) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux

Re: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-29 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/29/08, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean marketing is really just how to sellSNIP That statement could not be farther from the truth, IMHO. I think any Tech I agree 100% with Lowell. When I think of marketing I think of Apple and Google. Apple is for some specific group of

RE: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-29 Thread Crane, Matthew
The how to sell comment I made was a vast generalization meant to differentiate the roles of marketing and engineering in a crass way. Very easy to jump on, I know. Do you really think google engineers part of the day to day marketing meetings there? Or the same at Apple? Or sony? I doubt

emulator config problem

2008-04-29 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
hi, i followed instructions at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU i got the code and i started config but i got this error, can someone tell me more how to mand this and configure and build it p.s. i use ubuntu/debian --- error -- [EMAIL

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-29 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:58:35PM +0200, Vedran Alajbegović wrote: hi, i followed instructions at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU i got the code and i started config but i got this error, can someone tell me more how to mand this and configure and build it p.s. i use

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-29 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
ah, i had another one thank you i hope i'll have no problems with build On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:58:35PM +0200, Vedran Alajbegović wrote: hi, i followed instructions at:

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-29 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
and yes.. i finally fall in love with this thing :D 2008/4/29 Vedran Alajbegović [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ah, i had another one thank you i hope i'll have no problems with build On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:58:35PM +0200,

Re: Community Update???

2008-04-29 Thread ramsesoriginal
Whi not have an official openmoko twitter stream? On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Hennig wrote: since the last official community update was a few week ago Months? :o :| Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the

Re: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-29 Thread ramsesoriginal
Ok, my experience in the marketing field is very specific, and my experience as an engineer is practically non-existant (i'm still studying), so i wil lsimply step back and listen to you guys on this discussion. I just wanted to point out a really cool idea/product/service (call it like you want):

.Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Kosa
Hi everyone, I wonder if there's any chance Openmoko could (or is going to) offer a service like apple's .Mac for the Openmoko users. I have some ideas (and I'm sure you have a lot more) that could make this service very useful. I was just about to add it to the wishlist, but I'm not sure where

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. The transistors were replaced with the internal-resistor

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there's any chance Openmoko could (or is going to) offer a service like apple's .Mac for the Openmoko users. I have some ideas (and I'm sure you have a lot more) that could make this service very useful. What

Re: Upgrading 1973 to Freerunner

2008-04-29 Thread Rod Whitby
Ian Stirling wrote: Basically, the screen is glued down, and will be difficult to remove. Actually, that's not the case. I took apart a Neo1973 (GTA01) on the weekend, and the screen is very easy to remove (the only tool required is the Torx screwdriver for the case, the guitar pick so you

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/4/30 Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there's any chance Openmoko could (or is going to) offer a service like apple's .Mac for the Openmoko users. I have some ideas (and I'm sure you have a lot more)

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/30/08, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my list starts with: *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages (in case i need to re-install everything) *backing up e-mails/text messages

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/4/30 Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my list starts with: *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages (in case i need to re-install everything) *backing up e-mails/text messages

mobile gps gaming

2008-04-29 Thread Robin Paulson
i just listened to an interesting piece on the bbc about gps gaming on mobile phones: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/digital_planet.shtml at 15:40 onwards talking about a company in england that is developing innovative games based around gps-equipped phones.

RE: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Tim Newsom
-Original Message- From: Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:29 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: .Mac like service /snip alternatively, an application to sit on my pc and do all this stuff locally would

RE: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-29 Thread steve
Well, you remember how we talked about your breadcrumbs project, where you basically create a trail or map of where you have been. So, I started thinking about that and wondering about using the accelerometers, and Then I started to think about all the extreme cases of human movement which would

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Buttonand LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread steve
See the wiki its technically a component change. Also see earlier mails from tony on the topid. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#GTA02v6 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Coggins Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008

RE: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-29 Thread steve
That's what I am working on this very moment -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans L Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:38 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

Re: Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-29 Thread Jeremy List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 4/30/08, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my list starts with: *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages