Hi everyone,
does anybody know the aproximate quantity of
1973 Neos were sold in every country?
I mean, according to the article sent by
Samuel [1] Germany was the country that bought
more Neos, but I don't know how many did they
(or you) bought. I don't even know how many
of them were
I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the order of
$70-120) will make it much more expensive to
order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you would
probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller.
/Erland
Kosa wrote:
Hi everyone,
does anybody know the aproximate quantity of
1973 Neos were sold in every country?
I mean, according to the article sent by
Samuel [1] Germany was the country that bought
more Neos, but I don't know how many did they
(or you) bought. I don't even know how many
Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?
Hey,
About distribution in Europe : Bearstech ( [French]
On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:53:29 +0200, Philippe Guillebert
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Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster
Hi,
Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when
waiting for the FreeRunner:
5. Troll at #openmoko on irc.freenode.net.
4. Keep writing FreeRunner - Thank You e-mails to FIC, Openmoko
developers, and the community.
3. Ask GTK+ developers about Qt, and vice-versa.
2. Call
I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ...
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It is an extra magnitude of difficulty to get anything more then a few
developers to code in a consistent style when working with C++.
Requires strict discipline and coding standards. Without such things,
it all de-generates at a rate proportianal to the number of developers
and amount of
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from three to
two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have moved the
Openembedded metadata from monotone to git.
...
An updated MokoMakefile will, thanks to Rod, follow shortly.
Hey,
Sorry to stick my nose in on this, especially if I'm missing something.
But do you guys have anything decided about this, and what it is all
going to be stored on? May I suggest using SQLite for the data
storage? It is very lightweight, not much ram or processor use needed,
unlike
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:19:49 Rod Whitby wrote:
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from three
to
two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have moved the
Openembedded metadata from monotone to git.
...
An updated
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Tom Cooksey wrote:
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:19:49 Rod Whitby wrote:
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from
three to two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have
moved the Openembedded
What does the clobber bit do?
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:49 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from three
to
two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have moved the
Openembedded metadata from
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 13:13:33 Roland Häder wrote:
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Tom Cooksey wrote:
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:19:49 Rod Whitby wrote:
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from
three to two. This means we only use
I have already started a discussing in the Wiki about this topic:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware#PIN_secured.3F
So what do you think? And does the FreeRunner already have PINs/PUKs to be
secured against long fingers?
Best whishes,
Roland
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Ahhh... Much better. :)
Now let's see if I can run a make update all...
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Ahhh... Much better. :)
Now let's see if I can run a make update all...
And thanks a lot.
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Roland Häder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have already started a discussing in the Wiki about this topic:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware#PIN_secured.3F
So what do you think? And does the FreeRunner already have PINs/PUKs
to be
I have added it to hardware because it could be (maybe) integrated into the
hardware and shall come up before u-boot launches the kernel.
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Tom Cooksey wrote:
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:19:49 Rod Whitby wrote:
Holger Freyther wrote:
To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from three to
two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have moved the
Openembedded metadata from monotone to git.
...
Mo Abrahams wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:49 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
MokoMakefile has been updated, tested by a couple of people, and now
published.
You will need to run make clobber update-makefile before proceeding in
the usual way ...
What does the clobber bit do?
It removes the
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My complaint is that it would be difficult for me to put my hands into
the default apps. They are C++, QT, and expectedly using enough of
those creepy C++-isms (possibly, even those yecchy templates or
whereabouts). I
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:04:40 Samuel Melrose wrote:
Sorry to stick my nose in on this, especially if I'm missing something.
But do you guys have anything decided about this, and what it is all
going to be stored on? May I suggest using SQLite for the data
storage? It is very lightweight,
I don't think so Alex. Steve said that he all he wanted to ship was a
phone that could send messages and make calls and he would be happy for
now. I'm sure there will be software for this purpose soon if not
created already.
-Nick
Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
0n Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:42:12PM
And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant
requests for status updates.
Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet?
No.
Michele Renda wrote:
I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ...
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Hi,
And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant
requests for status updates.
Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet?
No.
if you make an announcement for a particular date, you have to live with
people asking, when the date passed by.
If you
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Daniel Selinger wrote:
Afaik PIN and PUK are security mechanisms built into every GSM
SIM-Card, you also get them shipped with the SIM, not the Phone.
So i think the Freerunner _has to_ implement PIN and PUK for even
accessing the SIM in it.
rgds Daniel
Ahh,
They love listening you writing so...
The #4 was to receive email writing thank you!
nickd wrote:
And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant
requests for status updates.
Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there
yet? No.
Michele Renda wrote:
I don't
2008/5/21 Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My complaint is that it would be difficult for me to put my hands into
the default apps. They are C++, QT, and expectedly using enough of
those creepy C++-isms (possibly, even those
I think I saw some proballys and some shoulds but I don't remember
any announcements.
Was there an official announcment?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:06 AM
To: List for Openmoko
For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it
will come out...
When it's done. ;)
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Roland Häder wrote:
For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it
will come out...
When it's done. ;)
When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask:
when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :)
Hi,
I think I saw some proballys and some shoulds but I don't remember
any announcements.
maybe, but a concrete date was given.
Was there an official announcment?
Everything, a member of the company writes, is official ...
Sorry, but we are all waiting for several months now. Several
Dirk Deimeke wrote:
maybe, but a concrete date was given.
I don't want to start a flame, so I will try to troll less as possible.
They give different dates, but they always told us that are only
indicative. If they will found a stopping problem in what they
produce,they will stop
ha I liked that one.
I think some folks here have never done mass pro.
are we there yet dad?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re:
Hi Michele,
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote:
When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask:
when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :)
Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view OpenMoko should take time in
testing it. And as you can see on
I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited
my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The
important facts are that the new software:
* Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to Enlightenment (E17)
* Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is
Thanks roland.
The hardware is solid. it's moving through mass production. the final
signoffs are in process.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Häder
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:02 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
well first the hardware group has to have a baby. then the software groups
has to have quintuplets ( multiple releases) then the factory has to clone
the baby and make it just so perfect.
baby's are easier and more fun to make.
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I do not believe that it will sync to outlook. However, explain exactly what
you want to do.
get your outlook contacts, mail and appointments to the phone?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
ya, that's what figured doing a few calculations. That said, I did not
calculate this for everyone in every country.
so YMMV
_
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:43 PM
To: List for Openmoko community
oh, it was about a 50/50 split between US and EU and within the EU it was
germany and scandanavia, with germany being the lions portion.
So per capitia ( no I didn't do the actual calculation) germany was I guess
the biggest market.
From my perspective that tells me to get a german partner
Lorn Potter wrote:
Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database.
Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is
stored or is that not Qtopia determined?
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Hi Steve
I am helping to organize an Italian Sales Group - Torino.
I know is a bit too much early to ask this, but it will be usefull to
know which company will deliver FreeRunner ordered direct from USA by
OpenMoko shop.
Here we are frontier tax and it'd like to contact them to know how much
So mass production has not yet started? Still getting signoffs? Just
checking to make sure I'm understanding your properly. :)
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:55 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks roland.
The hardware is solid. it's moving through mass production. the final
signoffs are in
Bonjour!
Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)
Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.
Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)
Le mercredi 21 mai 2008 à 08:53
Michael Shiloh writes:
I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited
my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The
important facts are that the new software:
* Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to Enlightenment (E17)
* Ported
Special Agent Michael Shiloh reported at 12:45 05/21/08:
I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited
my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The
important facts are that the new software:
* Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 07:19:34PM -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
In my tests the echo went away when I
muted the Neo's speaker or microphone, so it did not seem to be a
network issue.
The audio coupling between the Neo's speaker and microphone can be
measured independently of the GSM stuff,
On Thursday 22 May 2008 08:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database.
Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is
stored or is that not Qtopia determined?
The users database is /home/user/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite
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Michael Shiloh wrote:
Lorn Potter wrote:
Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database.
Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is
stored or is that not Qtopia determined?
This would seem to be four sqlite databases:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cd /
[EMAIL
Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:
Bonjour!
Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)
Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.
Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)
On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:51:47 +0200 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Hi Michael,
I think you and your team are doing a courageous but good choose.
I ask only that if in the future this choose will limit Openmoko
openess, you will protect us!
A lot of people that are afraid that
On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:36:30 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between
alphabetics and numerics;
On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:26:55 -0500 Jeremy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner on its
side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the iphone does?
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto:
Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:
Bonjour!
Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)
Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.
On Thu, 22 May 2008 00:47:17 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:
Bonjour!
Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf,
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 13:32 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when
waiting for the FreeRunner:
[...]
1. Reply to this e-mail.
OH SHI-
Sorry, but couldn't resist.
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Hi Michele,
I agree with what you wrote.
But in the end it is about earning money. It is not good to lose
potential customers with announcements of probabilities.
So again, what hinders production?
Openmoko but to learn to be open. It will take time, but is doing a
lot.
This is main point I
Thanks Lorn
Lorn Potter wrote:
On Thursday 22 May 2008 08:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database.
Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is
stored or is that not Qtopia determined?
The users database is
Steve,
Not to be a pest or anything, but . . . any chance I can go to Suzhou
to get one of these when they're ready?
Any response appreciated.
Mischa
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