Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Pranav Desai
On 5/29/08, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual way is to add the package to OpenEmbedded, and then add it's name to the task-openmoko-feed.bb

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread Pranav Desai
On 5/29/08, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:44:42PM -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: libjana isn't packaged in toolchain by default. the default compopents are: libmokogsmd2, mokoui2,

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Pranav Desai wrote: My attempt is to make existing opensource apps available for Openmoko. If I have rewrite or wrap around the existing build process just to fit the OE model then it seems a bit discouraging. Contrast this with Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, etc ... you're effectively saying that

2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where

RE: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joerg Reisenweber Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread geek
A Please. -remember us voip - wifi er's (yes, that's voip over wifi...) I'm cheap. thanks for the good work. /matthew -- Have no fear of log files...no one reads them.'' And trim your posts g-damnit

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Michal Bořek
B) 3.5mm Michal Borek On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Esbjörn Dominique
3.5mm. E.g. the Nokia N82 has a 3.5mm connector, with a 3.5mm headset included. /esbjörn On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and use them for music. If I wanted a headset I

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
3.5 mm, Like to hear on music Joerg Reisenweber skrev: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02)

using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread manoj kumar
hello Already i have posted to this community regarding this question but i didn get any response. Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be networked with windows??? It would b very helpfull if i am getting any reply( even if there s no way to do so, mail me

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread thomasg
I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone using it. Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and they are way more practical (and even have the better microphone placing, compared to the wired

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B)

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) Definitely 3.5mm. If I'd use a headset, I'd use a Bluetooth one

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello, Having an official packages repository is excellent. It is not enough though: openness to external contributions, possible reactivity are welcomed too, otherwise the repository would tend to a sanctuary. Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread geek
you may have just changed my mind On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset. -- Have no fear

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Sander van Grieken
Both! External adapters are a bad idea since it could put extra force on the jack socket. They could be located very close together so you cannot connect both at the same time. grtz, Sander Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
Hi all! On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset. I agree with Richard and vote for B too. Hermann

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Benko
3.5mm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Steffen Winkler
A (but...why not use a bluetooth headset...would be cheaper I think (you don't need to implement the headphone connector)) Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200 Von: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: 2.5mm or

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Christ van Willegen
Definitively 3.5mm. No need to repeat all the reasons. Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Kosa
My best choice would be C) (3.5 mic and phones) but if that is not possible right know, I'll rather get A). (and multi-touch screen please :P) Thanks for asking for our opinion. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Joerg Reisenweber escribi: Hi community! A short poll: on a future

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Al Johnson
How about a 4-terminal 3.5mm connector as used on the iphone? It would work with ordinary headphones if that was all that was needed. If you want the mic too you get a mic adaptor like the Shure VoicePort, or a full headset. On Friday 30 May 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Hi community! A

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Benedikt Schindler
hi, i haven't seen a headset that worked for more then one phone-company yet. Oh, except for the bluetooth things.But i also needed always special headsets for just hearing music. So please take 3.5mm. so i can just take every normal speaker, headset, etc. that lies near by me. and

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread rakshat hooja
3.5 mm for me ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

kids phone

2008-05-30 Thread joakim
Hello, I'm contemplating making a kids phone from a Freerunner. I'm supposing the software part will be doable: - interface with a few large icons - it should be possible to make a call to the phone and it will answer automatically in a particular state. Also I will need some form of case that

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Friday 30 May 2008 skrev Joerg Reisenweber: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B)

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Esbjörn Dominique
Just out of curiousity - why is a 2.5mm headset better suited for voip over wifi? /esbjörn On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:09 AM, geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Please. -remember us voip - wifi er's (yes, that's voip over wifi...) I'm

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Piotr Duda
2.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any of my old phones headsets I have laying around and use them for music and calling. ;) And it saves place and is less prone to damage. Piotr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I vote for B) I prefer to use Blueetooth to the phone headset, and if you want sound quality use a wired headphones without any adaptor --- El vie, 30/5/08, Joerg Reisenweber lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribió: De: Joerg Reisenweber lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Asunto: 2.5mm or 3.5mm Para:

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Mewes
Hi, On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:18 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) one vote for B, or even better A and

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread NeilBrown
On Fri, May 30, 2008 4:18 pm, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02)

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | hello | Already i have posted to this community regarding this question but | i didn get any response. | Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be | networked with

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-30 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Christoph Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilja O. wrote: 1) Auth using PIN number (this requires encrypted image presence in phone file system by it's boot time end -- not reallyl convenient if SD card is used). IMO encrypting Data with the PIN Number is not

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Ganesha Krishna
2.5mm head set. coz 1. a phone should have a headset adapter for speaker and mic. 2. blue tooth adapters are costly ($40 ) and 2.5mm headsets are $2 in India ( please focus on the relative cost, I am sure its the same elsewhere). 3. its extremely easy to make a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter. but

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-30 Thread Ilja O.
I don't see point in making secure protection from somebody that has stolen phone to obtain your data, since anything that phones' CPU will be able to encrypt/decrypt without draining battery much faster than it should be. ... Can be decrypted using desktop PC (or cluster of them) quite

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Lasse Poulsen
I'm for 3,5mm as well, they are easier to come by! Here in Denmark it's illegal to use the wired once in cars any ways since they are not considered hands-free! So most people would properly buy a BT one any ways! And since all good headphones is using a 3,5mm. - Lasse On Thu, 29 May 2008

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Erland Lewin
My preference: A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) But of course it would be nice if the audio out was less sensitive to impedance issues than people have said the

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Bobby Martin
From: manoj kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello Already i have posted to this community regarding this question but i didn get any response. Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be networked with windows??? It would b very helpfull if i am getting any reply(

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Ben Lau
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Joerg, as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the question regarding

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Lasse Poulsen wrote: | | Also it would be nice to see how long call time you have if you talk | | continually (might

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:49:34 +0300 Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Stefano Cavallari
I'm for B, as I'd like to use a phone as a music player. Most people use a bluetooth headset, and anyway there are some 3.5 headsets if one don't like bt ones. 3.5 connectors are easier to solder, too. Thank you for asking, you demonstrate you really care about what customers *actually* want!

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Friday 30 May 2008 08:18:16 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02)

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joseph Reeves
It's 1mm smaller ;) Still, I'd go for 3.5. 2008/5/30 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exactly. 3.5mm for the same reason. Are there any tangible benefits to using 2.5mm though? Rahul J On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.5mm. I'd rather be

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Pranav Desai wrote: | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The usual way is to add the package to OpenEmbedded, and then add | it's name

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
manoj kumar wrote: hello Already i have posted to this community regarding this question but i didn get any response. Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be networked with windows??? It would b very helpfull if i am getting any reply( even if there s no way

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Sander van Grieken
I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone using it. Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and they are way more practical (and even have the better microphone placing, compared to the

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | That is exactly the problem. You see, if we put april software update | into consideration (these are standard openmoko apps as well), the | prerequisite will not be small for a toolchain. I'm still

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Pawel Kowalak
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) As mentioned earlier, BT headsets are cheap and more comfortable in use (e.g. in a

Android on Freerunner ... Would it be possible ?

2008-05-30 Thread NeoSleg
Hi all, I'm hust wondering if it would be possible to install Android on freerunner when they will be out ... I don't really know if Google plan to give their system to the public or only distributed with new devices ... Does anyone have more infos on this ? Any date of Android release

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread John Lee
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:37:40AM +0100, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | That is exactly the problem. You see, if we put april software update | into consideration (these are standard openmoko apps as well), the

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
2.5mm. If you want to buy some earphones for a mobile, than you will get only some with 2.5mm connectors. Thomas Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 09:35:36 schrieb Rahul Joshi: Exactly. 3.5mm for the same reason. Are there any tangible benefits to using 2.5mm though? Rahul J On Fri, May 30, 2008 at

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Why not allow installation of target packages into the toolchain and | these difficult philosophical questions of what to stuff into | toolchain are GONE. End users can decide and enforce what they

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Benedikt Schindler
hi, the OM is a linux based phone. so you should be able to transfer data via ssh, samba, nfs, etc. i don't think that you plug it into a windows pc and the explorer says: Hey, there is a mass storage device. But i think you could install a litle samba server. or use the kernel CIFS

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread niclone
Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread pHilipp Zabel
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Marcel
+1 -Marcel Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 10:35:42 schrieb rakshat hooja: 3.5 mm for me ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread David Pottage
On Fri, May 30, 2008 7:18 am, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Prefer B - Classic 3.5 mm connector. If I want a headset to make calls on, I will buy a BT one. There are loads to chose from these days from cheap chinese things up to high end High, but for listening to music I want to be able to plug in

Re: kids phone

2008-05-30 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm contemplating making a kids phone from a Freerunner. I'm supposing the software part will be doable: - interface with a few large icons I thought of a very simple ui, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zash

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread David Pottage
On Fri, May 30, 2008 10:09 am, Andy Green wrote: ~ But not mass storage: this operates in block mode and requires complete ownership of the storage by the host then (since if we have it mounted too, we will write conflicting things to directory structures, etc). Could we emulate a block

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Ganesha Krishna
Agree, it would be a hassle swapping your BT head set with the 3.5mm earphones before picking up a call while say, driving, jogging, on a bike (motored or otherwise ), or simply sunbathing on your hammock outside your house. Two 3.5mm jacks, one for mic and the other for earphone is probably

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if | every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone | using it. | Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and

Wiki broken slightly

2008-05-30 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
The navigation on the bottom of the line. and the are /div under the menu. P.S. thanks for IRC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
I thought the Openmoko developer community would want to better than that ... Whats missing IMHO is a Repository Leadership clique, wherein a known group of people are responsible for some nice repositories that end-users might find interesting .. If I could easily add a few sites to

AW: multi-touch?

2008-05-30 Thread Fabian Off
Hey! How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does, I can see X Y Fingers Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the same, but I believe this could maybe point us into the right

Regd: previous post (a mass storage problem)

2008-05-30 Thread manoj kumar
Hello community, There was a post as below. I would lik to know was there any solution for this problem and also where from can i get those USB_ETH and USB_FILE_STORAGE URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/attachments/20070921/ce1cd87b/attachment.htm From yang.lu at

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread George Brooke
How about a system like launchpad's PPA (Personal Package Archive) which allows developers to have their packages built automatically for all versions of ubuntu. This could have access to all of the libraries available through OE and any that you build your self - avoiding dependency problems in

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
I'm sure it's *possible* to make the neo behave like a mass storage device, and I would love to have software that does it so I can have some kind of communication with Windows machines that I don't have permission to install drivers internet bridges on. As far as I know that software

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Fri, May 30, 2008 10:09 am, Andy Green wrote: | | ~ But not mass storage: this operates in block mode and requires complete | ownership of the storage by the host then (since if we have it mounted |

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Sven Klomp schrieb: 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. Sven And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / 02 ??? no further questions. your witness. ___ Openmoko community

Re: kids phone

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm contemplating making a kids phone from a Freerunner. I'm supposing the software part will be doable: - interface with a few large icons - it should be possible to make a call to the phone and it will answer automatically in a

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone: Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Franck
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks I vote for B (3.5mm) as well.. even if just headphone.. IMHO, the 2.5 ones are just too fragile... BTW.. following the link of Phillip to nokia and on to the OMTP left me with a 404 so the link to the spec

Re: Android on Freerunner ... Would it be possible ?

2008-05-30 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On pe, 2008-05-30 at 11:47 +0200, NeoSleg wrote: I'm hust wondering if it would be possible to install Android on freerunner when they will be out ... I don't really know if Google plan to give their system to the public or only distributed with new devices ... As has been said before,

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Shawn
1 more vote for 'B'. I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for future editions of the product? . . .shawn - Original Message From: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:18:16 AM Subject: 2.5mm

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Nadav
3.5, definitely. And continuing the earlier comment about Nokia - the N95 (and possibly other models) has a very interesting 3.5mm connector that provides much more than just sound. If a 3.5mm headphones are inserted, it plays regular stereo. However it also accepts the more advanced connector of

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ian douglas schrieb: | Thanks for your thoughts, Marco. | | | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: | I agree, and we can't ask you more than testing like you're doing. | | As of today I have 165 minutes remaining of my 1,000 minute TMobile SIM card, so

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Rahul Joshi
A minimal ftp server providing anonymous access on $DOMAIN seems feasible especially if one wants a gui to operate on files without the hassle of client joining a domain, user/group permissions etc. (as in with samba?) OR Nothing would beat rsync/cwRsync on (maybe cygwin) if it were just about

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 3,5mm, too Joerg Reisenweber schrieb: | Hi community! | A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have | A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a | cheap adapter if you want to use your old

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, the problem ist that the Freerunner does not have a multitouch display. Some developers just try to make one out of it :-) Rahul Joshi schrieb: | If I am to understand this thread discussion correctly, does it mean there is no public algo for

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if | every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone | using it. | Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
JoHo This is for GTA03 +++ rigth? Not for Freerunner Joerg Reisenweber skrev: Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone: Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to

normal headphones vs movile headphones?? Was Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Whats the difference between normal headphones vs movile headphones?, did you mean mobile headset(2 earspeakers+mic)? --- El vie, 30/5/08, Thomas Zimmermann lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribió: De: Thomas Zimmermann lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Asunto: Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm Para: List for Openmoko

Re: on screen keyboard enhaced

2008-05-30 Thread Ortwin Regel
Yeah, somewhat, but I think our screen might be a little small for it. I guess it needs to be prototyped. Ortwin On 5/29/08, George Brooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:42:41 +0200 christooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of selected projects in google android is Writing pad

Re: AW: multi-touch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Fabian Off: Hey! How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does, I can see X Y Fingers Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the same, but I

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler: Sven Klomp schrieb: 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. Sven And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / 02 ??? It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* headset on

Re: screen protector

2008-05-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 5/29/08, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: If anybody feels the need to use a screen protector, I just tried one called NavProtector that I got for a few bucks on eBay, and it fits nicely (cut about 1mm shorter than the screen, so check before you stick!

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Rahul Joshi
And I thought I read somewhere in wiki that the touchscreen would be similar if not same to the ones having multi-touch sensing support (which can be programmed to support multi-touch at some point of time). With your statement I can't decide if I'm shocked or sad (maybe both) :( Rahul J On Fri,

Re: screen protector

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | the cheaper ones. This make me worry that they might not have a | good conductivity, which is nessecary since the Freerunner has a | resistive touch screen. I don't think this is a worry, I just tried it

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread michael
2.5mm, definitely - but *not* the 4 contact 2.5mm used on the GTA01. Wired headsets for phone use give *far* better quality than any bluetooth headset I've used with the exception of maybe the jawbone. I talk about 4000 minutes/month on my phone so the convenience of being able to buy almost

AW: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas MIGLINCI
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you

AW: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas MIGLINCI
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you

AW: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas MIGLINCI
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you

Virtualization to give windows servicies to Neo

2008-05-30 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Was Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode (sorry topic too long to be useful and maybe the post too) Seeking about give an like usb masstorage service to Windows users I have found this inspiring page using-sshfs-to-access-remote-directories-in-windows[1] What about seek some

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Giorgio M.
B) 3.5mm Il giorno ven, 30/05/2008 alle 10.17 +, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen ha scritto: Friday 30 May 2008 skrev Joerg Reisenweber: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a

Re: normal headphones vs movile headphones?? Was Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread michael
The main differences would be size and price. I can buy a decent 2.5mm mobile headset (one earpiece + one mic) for about $10US and al of those will fit in my pocket. The cheapest headsets for a computer (2 earpieces+one mic) start around $30US and are huge, since they aren't really meant to be

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread andy selby
Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be networked with windows??? you should be able to transfer files over to the neo/freerunners sd card using bluetooth. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

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