Re: motorola usb->3.5->headset: compatibility?

2008-06-29 Thread Christoph Witzany
arne anka schrieb: >>> does anybody know whether it works with motorola phones only? >>> >> afaik yes. >> means it only works with motorola devices. >> > > aww ... > back to bluetooth is it, then. > at least, the number of small bt receivers available with mic and 3.5 > jacks increase

Re: HOPE and OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Bert Hartmann wrote: > I don't know if anyone on the list is planning on attending the last > H.O.P.E. (http://www.thelasthope.org/) but I could easily see the groups > overlapping. It's in NYC a couple weeks after the dates suggested by > Steve a week or so ago. (Steve was

RE: Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-29 Thread steve
Thanks Roh, That would make a great first project for the folks who like GTK. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joachim Steiger Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:54 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Community Ini

RE: Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-29 Thread steve
Yes, with FSO we move to a UI toolkit agnostic standpoint. Where Guiologists are free. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cedric cellier Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:53 AM To: List for Ope

Re: To Openmoko developers

2008-06-29 Thread Greg Bonett
> > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Renda > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:42 AM > To: Openmoko community > Subject: To Openmoko developers > > This tread born to be dedicated to all "Openmoko developers", to Steve, > Raster,

Re: Selling my Neo 1973

2008-06-29 Thread Shaz
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Igor Foox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've had a Neo 1973 since they shipped first a while ago. Unfortunately I > never had the time to hack on it, or to play around with it sufficiently to > make the purchase worth while. So I decided to sell the device so

RE: data collection for GSM coverage mape is COOL idea

2008-06-29 Thread steve
This would be a natural extension to splinter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:22 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: data collection for GSM coverage mape is COOL id

Re: GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread saurabh gupta
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, saurabh gupta wrote: > > > You have identified the correct and justified problem in training. I > thought > > to handle it in this way. Whenever a user runs this application, the GUI > for > > speech

RE: Ordering Free-for-all?

2008-06-29 Thread steve
people who work through christmas. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Semler Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:09 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Ordering Free-for-all? On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, saurabh gupta wrote: > You have identified the correct and justified problem in training. I thought > to handle it in this way. Whenever a user runs this application, the GUI for > speech recognition will ask it to go in training or recognition mode. In > training mode, after

Re: GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread saurabh gupta
Hello Asheesh, On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, saurabh gupta wrote: > > >Besides this, some modification is being done in the noise rejection > > part since it can degrade the performance wildly. I will use zero > crossing > >

RE: To Openmoko developers

2008-06-29 Thread steve
Thanks That was kind of you. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Renda Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:42 AM To: Openmoko community Subject: To Openmoko developers This tread born to be dedicated to all "Openmoko developers"

Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/29 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No, it's basicly working but only for those sim cards with old encryption. > But in practice nowdays operators use new encryption which is > unbreakable and getting your KI (needed for cloning) is impossible. > If yor sim is old it might be possible to clone. Look

Re: GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, saurabh gupta wrote: >Besides this, some modification is being done in the noise rejection > part since it can degrade the performance wildly. I will use zero crossing > rate and short term energy algorithm for end point detection. My model will > also use left to right HM

Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread prishelec
No, it's basicly working but only for those sim cards with old encryption. But in practice nowdays operators use new encryption which is unbreakable and getting your KI (needed for cloning) is impossible. If yor sim is old it might be possible to clone. Look into sim cloning forums specific for you

RE: GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread steve
very cool. as voice reco is one of my long time passions I'm glad to see someone take this up. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saurabh gupta Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:38 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GSoC

Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/29 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > > Hi all, > > > > I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my > > freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will > quickly > > get me bored... > > > > Is

Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > Hi all, > > I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my > freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will quickly > get me bored... > > Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? No way, neither wi

To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi all, I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will quickly get me bored... Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? Or do I need a reader ? anyone has a good plan for "naked SIM" ? -- Steven

Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03

2008-06-29 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have not (yet) invested in one of those expensive > universal remote control thingies. But I really > lust after that functionality when I fight THREE > controls (sat TV, DVD player, TV, not to mention > a separa

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread prishelec
Actually, do we have schematics for Freerunner? I know we have some CAD files. Do they include schematics for the elements? On 6/29/08, Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's nothing stopping the community from trying to design some hardware. > Take a look at the Wikipedia page on open h

Re: Inter-Freerunner Connectivity

2008-06-29 Thread Esben Stien
"Francesco Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Making the FR a walkie-talkie device was in some kind of wishlist I > think :) We need GNU Radio on it;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23cont

RE: warranty for 10 pack purchases

2008-06-29 Thread steve
14 day for single 28 day for 10 pack. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajit Natarajan Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:37 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: warranty for 10 pack purchases Shawn wrote: > Are there retailers in

Re: using/testing openmoko on my computer/laptop ?

2008-06-29 Thread Atilla Filiz
GSM modem support on qemu was in TODO list IIRC. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Declan Naughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps via virtualization, but not necessarily. > > Does this be done? > > I intend to buy a cheap GSM dongle for my laptop, it would be nice if > I could see (and play

Re: Inter-Freerunner Connectivity

2008-06-29 Thread Francesco Cat
2008/6/29 Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In what ways can two Freerunners plausibly communicate? Which is the fastest > for data transfer? Wifi and bluetooth for sure > Can they connect via WiFi without a separate router? I've seen some > discussion over how the Freerunner cannot be used as an

Re: Inter-Freerunner Connectivity

2008-06-29 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2008-06-29 kello 13:22 -0400, Charles Pax kirjoitti: > In what ways can two Freerunners plausibly communicate? Which is the > fastest for data transfer? Wifi. > Can they connect via WiFi without a separate router? I've seen some > discussion over how the Freerunner cannot be used as an access

Inter-Freerunner Connectivity

2008-06-29 Thread Charles Pax
In what ways can two Freerunners plausibly communicate? Which is the fastest for data transfer? Can they connect via WiFi without a separate router? I've seen some discussion over how the Freerunner cannot be used as an access point. Does this mean two Freerunners wouldn't be able to create a netw

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Charles Pax
There's nothing stopping the community from trying to design some hardware. Take a look at the Wikipedia page on open hardware http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware. There's lots of stuff out there to get folks started. We could try to create a new device, but I would rather create som

Re: motorola usb->3.5->headset: compatibility?

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
>> does anybody know whether it works with motorola phones only? > afaik yes. > means it only works with motorola devices. aww ... back to bluetooth is it, then. at least, the number of small bt receivers available with mic and 3.5 jacks increased over the last few weeks ... ___

GSoC Project Status Update 04: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-06-29 Thread saurabh gupta
Hello everyone, Finally I also got my Neo Freerunner on Friday and I spent some time playing with it:). Here is the status update of this week. I finally completed the code book design code using vector quantization. Now the testing phase of the code is going on. I recorded various samples of

Re: motorola usb->3.5->headset: compatibility?

2008-06-29 Thread Joachim Steiger
arne anka wrote: > hi, > the other day i saw from motorola an adaptor changing a mini-usb into a > 3.5(?)mm headset jack. > http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-3-5mm-Stereo-Audio-Converter/dp/B001A1IKFK/ref=pd_sim_cps_1_img/002-7641246-5084844 > does anybody know whether it works with motorola phones

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
> it is exactly what we need :) we need to make people understand the > FreeRunner is unique, and can do things never imagined before! you mean, upping the apparent nerdiness of its owners? now they not only _speak_ incomprehensible but even send incomprehensible sms ... :-) ___

motorola usb->3.5->headset: compatibility?

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
hi, the other day i saw from motorola an adaptor changing a mini-usb into a 3.5(?)mm headset jack. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-3-5mm-Stereo-Audio-Converter/dp/B001A1IKFK/ref=pd_sim_cps_1_img/002-7641246-5084844 does anybody know whether it works with motorola phones only? if not, it easily cou

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread Francesco Cat
it is exactly what we need :) we need to make people understand the FreeRunner is unique, and can do things never imagined before! If I was planning an advertisement campaign, one of the facts I would focus is that the FreeRunner can be a USB host: this means using USB drives (including cameras, mp

Re: Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-29 Thread Holger Freyther
On Friday 27 June 2008 20:14:26 Lorn Potter wrote: > QWebKit QtWebKit z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

using/testing openmoko on my computer/laptop ?

2008-06-29 Thread Declan Naughton
Perhaps via virtualization, but not necessarily. Does this be done? I intend to buy a cheap GSM dongle for my laptop, it would be nice if I could see (and play with/develop) the openmoko software and answer calls with it etc. How about it? Regards, Declan __

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
> There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that > the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff > like that) than it's compressed before being sent; there exists a similar application, done in (horrible dictu) j2me. a german university of applied s

Re: Openmoko and google trends

2008-06-29 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:29, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 28.06.2008 um 12:09 schrieb Yorick Moko: > > Check google trends: > http://www.google.com/trends?q=Openmoko%2C++FreeRunner&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 > > I would have expected at least a small spike for th

Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03

2008-06-29 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello, perhaps that could be a cool addon for the Freerunner :) I think it is possible to build the hardware oneself. Last but not least we need a software for it. http://features.engadget.com/2004/07/27/how-to-turn-your-ipod-in-to-a-universal-infrared-remote-control/ with kind regards Patrick

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag 29 Juni 2008 14:05:45 schrieb Jay Vaughan: > openmoko hardware? make a synthesizer platform. yes please, i'll > take 2,000, thanks. FULL ACK. That has so much potential. I'd love to be working on that. (after completing the framework of course) -- :M: __

why infrared should be added to GTA03

2008-06-29 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
I have not (yet) invested in one of those expensive universal remote control thingies. But I really lust after that functionality when I fight THREE controls (sat TV, DVD player, TV, not to mention a separate audio system control) I think the cost and complexity of adding IR is very small. It woul

Re: PowerVR graphics accelerator

2008-06-29 Thread Cedric Cellier
-[ Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 02:37:48PM +0200, Michael Stather ] > Now I found out the the OpenPandora device uses a PowerVR chip which is > also used by the atom platform (at least in some versions) > and does have open-source drivers announced (see > http://www.imgtec.com/partners/TungstenGraphi

Re: SDL support

2008-06-29 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, all kind of sdl libs are there and work. SDL just needs X11 and this is available on all OpenMoko variants. Additionally sdl-mixer, sdl-ttf and whatnot are available. I have however one nitpick: libsdl is quite old: 1.2.9. Current stable is 1.2.13. Unfortunately the library is not easy to bu

PowerVR graphics accelerator

2008-06-29 Thread Michael Stather
During the discussion on the glamo chip I often heard "there are no accelerators with open specs available", but I couldn't belive this ;) Now I found out the the OpenPandora device uses a PowerVR chip which is also used by the atom platform (at least in some versions) and does have open-source d

SDL support

2008-06-29 Thread Francesco Cat
I have seen SDL support in the wish-list; but I have read an email telling that a game that should require SDL worked on GTA01. Is ths SDL library implemented in OpenMoko? Are there plans about it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.ope

Re: To Openmoko developers

2008-06-29 Thread Michael Stather
Yes, thanks for creating this platform, I'm sure it'll be a great success I think the critisism posted here is only to make the platform better. People who don't like the openmoko idea don't post here IMHO ;) > Indeed, thanks guys/women. > > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Fradeve <[EMAIL PROT

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
openmoko hardware? make a synthesizer platform. yes please, i'll take 2,000, thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: To Openmoko developers

2008-06-29 Thread Yorick Moko
Indeed, thanks guys/women. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Fradeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michele Renda ha scritto: > > This tread born to be dedicated to all "Openmoko developers", to Steve, > > Raster, Sean and all the persons that are in every day working to get > > our child out! > >

Re: The glamo chip and its future

2008-06-29 Thread AVee
On Saturday 28 June 2008 18:37, Kosa wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yorick Moko escribió: > cite="mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > type="cite"> If you really want us to read whatever it is your telling is you really should stop posting html emails... AVee -- AMAZING BUT TRUE ...

Community Planet

2008-06-29 Thread kazaam
Hi, there already exists an Developer-Planet which is quite nice but wouldn't it be cool to have a community-planet. Where every Openmoko-User can show his blog-entrys regarding openmoko/neo/... ? What do you think about it? ___ Openmoko community mai

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Some bytes for the software side: http://nonpareil.brouhaha.com/ http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=4382 http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~parisse/giac.html 2008/6/28, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am Sa 28. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: >> RPN please. >> >> Actually it would be cool to

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread Yogiz
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:24:28 -0500 "Nelson Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm. > > Doesn't IM requiere permanent connection? For status updates, etc? > > I'd like to know what you think about two things: > > 1) We know email is broken (at least unsafe and prone to spam) > 2) What is the

Re: data collection for GSM coverage mape is COOL idea

2008-06-29 Thread Brad Midgley
guys >> maybe then we should create something like a plugin (or extension) for >> openstreetmaps, so we can append many kinds of meta-data (such as radar >> positions, gsm coverage, whatsoever) to existing maps... kinda points of >> interest (?) :) is there software out there that takes incomp

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Marcel
Wouldn't it be better to first concentrate on getting the Freerunner out and then look what's up with GTA03/04/whatever? Designing a whole new device takes a very long time, as you can perfectly see here... -Marcel Am Samstag 28 Juni 2008 17:38:47 schrieb Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente: > Why

Re: No WLAN AP functionality

2008-06-29 Thread Francesco Cat
But will Packet Injection works for this chip? 2008/6/29 Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Sadly no, as it's a hardmac chip and the proprietary firmware lacks >> this feature. > > Oh, no. That's really damn sad. > > -- > Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECT